Re: Soliciting feedback for a detailed pTLP policy document
On 3/4/15 1:41 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org mailto:cutt...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org mailto:r...@apache.org wrote: ... As a director, I still don't think the board needs to be involved in a pTLP's graduation. As far as I'm concerned, any provisional status is self-imposed by the PMC and can be removed at its pleasure. From the board's perspective it's either an ASF project or it's not, there's not a useful middle ground. As a project it needs to provide reports, release according to accepted standards, operate openly, etc. It may be a young project, with a PMC dominated by old-timers who aren't responsible for much of the contribution, but I don't see why that requires a new formal status any more than we need a formal status for old, slow-moving projects that rarely release. Put directly, what does a pTLP's graduation change from the board's perspective? How should it change the way we review the project's reports, etc.? In short, why should we care about this label? If a PMC wishes to call itself blue that's fine too, but we don't need a resolution when it decides to call itself purple. What's your view of 'incubation disclaimers'? The above paragraph makes most sense to me if there are none for pTLPs. The bigger question is: what does pTLP mean to the rest of the world? Incubation disclaimers are there to inform the rest of the world that the community working there, and the software it produces, are not (yet) true Apache projects. That is, we want end users to understand that there may be different expectations of project behavior and software product quality or availability for Incubator podlings than the world has for full Apache projects. How are we clearly describing to end users what differences they might expect between the operations and functionality of pTLPs versus Apache projects (i.e. formal TLPs)? And who, specifically, decides when the pTLP becomes a TLP? While it's important to ensure that we're being clear within our communities about how we operate and improve, in this case it's also really important that we make it clear to the rest of the world what a pTLP is. - Shane - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Wiki access
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org wrote: Can someone grant Humbedooh write access to the wiki, please? Humbedooh is now in https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ContributorsGroup -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
podlings.xml has incorrect entry for AsterixDB
Hi Incubator, It appears that there is a typo in podlings.xml that is blocking the AsterixDB podling creation tickets. It looks like the person who updated podlings.xml forgot to fix the places where it says aurora during the copy and paste, e.g.: 154 podling name=AsterixDB status=current resource=aurora sponsor=Incubator startdate=2015-02-28 Can you please fix this? Thanks! On behalf of Infra, Geoff Corey
Re: podlings.xml has incorrect entry for AsterixDB
Thanks! On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Fixed! [chipotle:~/tmp/incubator/content] mattmann% svn commit -m fix typo in AsterixDB entry. h/t to Geoffrey Corey. Sendingpodlings.xml Transmitting file data . Committed revision 1664677. [chipotle:~/tmp/incubator/content] mattmann% From: Mattmann, Chris A (3980) [chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov] Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:42 AM To: cor...@apache.org Cc: general@incubator.apache.org; infrastruct...@apache.org Subject: Re: podlings.xml has incorrect entry for AsterixDB I'll fix sorry Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2015, at 8:27 AM, Geoffrey Corey cor...@apache.org wrote: Hi Incubator, It appears that there is a typo in podlings.xml that is blocking the AsterixDB podling creation tickets. It looks like the person who updated podlings.xml forgot to fix the places where it says aurora during the copy and paste, e.g.: 154 podling name=AsterixDB status=current resource=aurora sponsor=Incubator startdate=2015-02-28 Can you please fix this? Thanks! On behalf of Infra, Geoff Corey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: podlings.xml has incorrect entry for AsterixDB
I'll fix sorry Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2015, at 8:27 AM, Geoffrey Corey cor...@apache.org wrote: Hi Incubator, It appears that there is a typo in podlings.xml that is blocking the AsterixDB podling creation tickets. It looks like the person who updated podlings.xml forgot to fix the places where it says aurora during the copy and paste, e.g.: 154 podling name=AsterixDB status=current resource=aurora sponsor=Incubator startdate=2015-02-28 Can you please fix this? Thanks! On behalf of Infra, Geoff Corey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
RE: podlings.xml has incorrect entry for AsterixDB
Fixed! [chipotle:~/tmp/incubator/content] mattmann% svn commit -m fix typo in AsterixDB entry. h/t to Geoffrey Corey. Sendingpodlings.xml Transmitting file data . Committed revision 1664677. [chipotle:~/tmp/incubator/content] mattmann% From: Mattmann, Chris A (3980) [chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov] Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:42 AM To: cor...@apache.org Cc: general@incubator.apache.org; infrastruct...@apache.org Subject: Re: podlings.xml has incorrect entry for AsterixDB I'll fix sorry Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2015, at 8:27 AM, Geoffrey Corey cor...@apache.org wrote: Hi Incubator, It appears that there is a typo in podlings.xml that is blocking the AsterixDB podling creation tickets. It looks like the person who updated podlings.xml forgot to fix the places where it says aurora during the copy and paste, e.g.: 154 podling name=AsterixDB status=current resource=aurora sponsor=Incubator startdate=2015-02-28 Can you please fix this? Thanks! On behalf of Infra, Geoff Corey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Soliciting feedback for a detailed pTLP policy document
Hi Roman, On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 2:31 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: ... https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=51812862 ... Thanks for this, I meant to review but haven't found time so far for a detailed review. However, reading the comments of other board members here I'm more and more thinking that the provisional bit might not be practical nor really needed. A fast track to TLP creation sounds useful in some cases however, and some of it intersects with what the Incubator is doing with podlings, so we might reuse most of the pTLP ideas to better define that fast track. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Wiki access
Can someone grant Humbedooh write access to the wiki, please? With regards, Daniel. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org