Re: Podling Graduation Rally

2017-02-19 Thread Mike Jumper 
On Feb 19, 2017 8:01 PM, "Niclas Hedhman"  wrote:

...
CatA licenses are CatA because they allow modifications on source and
re-license...


sublicense*

- Mike

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

2017-02-19 Thread Roman Shaposhnik 
On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Niclas Hedhman  wrote:
> I haven't followed this issue, but if we take BSD licensed source and
> modifies it (enough to claim copyright on the modifications) we re-license
> to ALv2, but leaves the original BSD headers (if any) in the source.
>
> CatA licenses are CatA because they allow modifications on source and
> re-license...

Correct. Which seems to make Roy's proposal a superset of what you're talking
about. Now, while we can debate whether we can accomplish something similar
to what he was suggesting by some other means -- I'd rather vote for simplicity
and go ahead with this:
 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-293?focusedCommentId=15873943=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-15873943

At this point -- I just need to see if there's anybody who's strongly
opposed this
approach.

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Re: Podling Graduation Rally

2017-02-19 Thread Niclas Hedhman 
I haven't followed this issue, but if we take BSD licensed source and
modifies it (enough to claim copyright on the modifications) we re-license
to ALv2, but leaves the original BSD headers (if any) in the source.

CatA licenses are CatA because they allow modifications on source and
re-license...

Niclas

On Feb 20, 2017 04:12, "John D. Ament"  wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 3:08 PM Roman Shaposhnik 
> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 5:43 AM, John D. Ament 
> > wrote:
> > > I'm personally still concerned about MADLib's licensing status.
> > > Specifically speaking, where I feel more info is needed around
> > > modifications to the BSD licensed code.  None of that was in the legal
> > > resolution.
> >
> > Can you please suggest how can this be resolved? I've stated my opinion,
> > others stated theirs -- but how do we arrive at a either a consensus or
> > a resolution? What's a mechanism here?
> >
>
> Was there a clear statement on the code modifications?  Last I saw, there
> was an agreement for the imported code, but I thought I saw something
> saying the modifications were apache licensed, which is confusing in the
> current state.
>
> Either way, lets move this to legal discuss.
>
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Roman.
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[RESULT][VOTE]: Release Apache RocketMQ 4.0.0(incubating) (RC3)

2017-02-19 Thread yukon 
Hello Incubator PMC,

The Apache RocketMQ 4.0.0(incubating) vote is now closed and has passed
with 3 binding +1s, 2 non-binding +1s and no 0 or -1:

Binding votes +1s:
Justin Mclean
Bruce Snyder
John D. Ament

Non-binding votes +1s:
vintagewang
yukon

The Apache RocketMQ (incubating) community will proceed with the release.

Thanks,
The Apache RocketMQ Team

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 9:31 PM, Justin Mclean 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > Note things like the broad copyright dates.
>
> Yep agreed that’s more than a bit silly. We’ll see what we can do to fix
> that.
>
> > Any plans to reach out to get it corrected, or try to upgrade if they
> > already fixed?
>
> We can ask. If a change was made BTW that would effect a number of other
> projects. This would include NiFi and Spark (from a casual glance/search of
> Apache GitHub). Not to single out any particular project or suggest that
> they need to change their license just noticing it would have a wider
> impact than this incubating project.
>
> Thanks,
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Re: Podling Graduation Rally

2017-02-19 Thread Roman Shaposhnik 
On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 12:12 PM, John D. Ament  wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 3:08 PM Roman Shaposhnik 
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 5:43 AM, John D. Ament 
>> wrote:
>> > I'm personally still concerned about MADLib's licensing status.
>> > Specifically speaking, where I feel more info is needed around
>> > modifications to the BSD licensed code.  None of that was in the legal
>> > resolution.
>>
>> Can you please suggest how can this be resolved? I've stated my opinion,
>> others stated theirs -- but how do we arrive at a either a consensus or
>> a resolution? What's a mechanism here?
>>
>
> Was there a clear statement on the code modifications?  Last I saw, there
> was an agreement for the imported code, but I thought I saw something
> saying the modifications were apache licensed, which is confusing in the
> current state.
>
> Either way, lets move this to legal discuss.

I filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-293 and provided links
to the previous conversations around this subject. If there's a need to re-open
that discussion I'd rather do it on the JIRA.

Thanks,
Roman.

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[jira] [Created] (INCUBATOR-196) Apache Incubator Logo V1

2017-02-19 Thread Jeremy Anderson (JIRA) 
Jeremy Anderson created INCUBATOR-196:
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 Summary: Apache Incubator Logo V1
 Key: INCUBATOR-196
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-196
 Project: Incubator
  Issue Type: Task
  Components: LogoSubmission
Reporter: Jeremy Anderson
 Attachments: apache-incubator_v1.pdf, apache-incubator_v1.png

Apache Incubator logo - Clean Podling

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Re: [VOTE] Gobblin to enter Apache Incubator

2017-02-19 Thread Olivier Lamy 
Hi Craig

On 20 February 2017 at 00:23, Craig Russell 
wrote:

> Hi Olivier,
>
> Can you also post the link to this proposal on https://wiki.apache.org/
> incubator/ProjectProposals ?
>

Sure. done.

Olivier


>
> Thanks,
>
> Craig
>
> > On Feb 16, 2017, at 9:33 PM, Olivier Lamy  wrote:
> >
> > Hello Everyone,
> > I would like to call a vote for accepting "Gobblin" for incubation in the
> > Apache Incubator.
> > The full proposal is available below, and is also available in the wiki:
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/GobblinProposal
> >
>
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[jira] [Created] (INCUBATOR-195) Apache Swoosh Egg

2017-02-19 Thread Anna (JIRA) 
Anna created INCUBATOR-195:
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 Summary: Apache Swoosh Egg
 Key: INCUBATOR-195
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-195
 Project: Incubator
  Issue Type: Task
  Components: LogoSubmission
Reporter: Anna
 Attachments: ApacheswoosheggpresentationFINAL.pdf, 
ApacheswoosheggpresentationFINAL.png

The logo design proposal "Swoosh Egg" by Anna Shaposhnik pictures the fast 
progression of Apache Incubator's podlings. The forward moving arrow shows 
Apache's forward thinking and innovative communities that help these podlings 
(represented by the egg) grow.





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[jira] [Created] (INCUBATOR-194) Apache Idea Egg

2017-02-19 Thread Anna (JIRA) 
Anna created INCUBATOR-194:
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 Summary: Apache Idea Egg
 Key: INCUBATOR-194
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-194
 Project: Incubator
  Issue Type: Task
  Components: LogoSubmission
Reporter: Anna
 Attachments: ApacheideaeggpresentationFINAL.pdf, 
ApacheideaeggpresentationFINAL.png

The design proposal "Apache Idea Egg" pictures Apache Incubator as a platform 
of innovation where ideas (represented by the light bulb) can take roots and 
grow. As shown by the wings, Apache Incubator provides these podlings with the 
expert help they need to become full-fledged projects and take flight into the 
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[jira] [Created] (INCUBATOR-193) Apache Particle Egg

2017-02-19 Thread Anna (JIRA) 
Anna created INCUBATOR-193:
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 Summary: Apache Particle Egg
 Key: INCUBATOR-193
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-193
 Project: Incubator
  Issue Type: Task
  Components: LogoSubmission
Reporter: Anna
 Attachments: ApacheparticleeggpresentationFINAL.pdf, 
ApacheparticleeggpresentationFINAL.png

The design proposal "Particle Egg" by Anna Shaposhnik shows the constant 
sizzling development and incubation of Apache Incubator's Podlings, represented 
here as the egg. The community is always progressing and innovating as a 
coherent, collaborative entity as represented by the "A" and its forward moving 
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Re: Podling Graduation Rally

2017-02-19 Thread John D. Ament 
On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 3:08 PM Roman Shaposhnik 
wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 5:43 AM, John D. Ament 
> wrote:
> > I'm personally still concerned about MADLib's licensing status.
> > Specifically speaking, where I feel more info is needed around
> > modifications to the BSD licensed code.  None of that was in the legal
> > resolution.
>
> Can you please suggest how can this be resolved? I've stated my opinion,
> others stated theirs -- but how do we arrive at a either a consensus or
> a resolution? What's a mechanism here?
>

Was there a clear statement on the code modifications?  Last I saw, there
was an agreement for the imported code, but I thought I saw something
saying the modifications were apache licensed, which is confusing in the
current state.

Either way, lets move this to legal discuss.


>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
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Re: Podling Graduation Rally

2017-02-19 Thread Roman Shaposhnik 
On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 5:43 AM, John D. Ament  wrote:
> I'm personally still concerned about MADLib's licensing status.
> Specifically speaking, where I feel more info is needed around
> modifications to the BSD licensed code.  None of that was in the legal
> resolution.

Can you please suggest how can this be resolved? I've stated my opinion,
others stated theirs -- but how do we arrive at a either a consensus or
a resolution? What's a mechanism here?

Thanks,
Roman.

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Re: Podling Graduation Rally

2017-02-19 Thread John D. Ament 
On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 10:45 PM Roman Shaposhnik 
wrote:

> Sorry for jumping at this rather tale -- being overwhelmed with
> work and personal stuff :-(
>
> As usual, John, I applaud your focus! A quick comment bellow.
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:28 AM, John D. Ament 
> wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > As mentioned in this month's report, there are 63 active podlings.  While
> > I've been chasing retiring podlings, I think it would be good for the
> > community as a whole to look closely as podlings and see what we can do
> to
> > graduate podlings that seem to be doing well.
> >
> > Take a look at the last two reports:
> >
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2017
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2017
> >
> > Last month, I listed 4 podlings that appear to have completed all
> > graduation requirements, but remain in the incubator (Airflow, BatchEE,
> > Freemarker, Metron).  I didn't include that in February, but if I had to
> > list the names, it would be: CarbonData, Edgent, Fineract, Guacamole,
> > PredictionIO, SystemML, Tamaya, Unomi (but that's entirely my POV/opinion
> > unless others want to chime in).
> >
> > So I'm curious, what can others do to help these 12 podlings get past the
> > finish line?
>
> Out of the podlings I mentor I agree that Fineract is pretty close. But
> I also would like to suggest that MADlib and DataFu. The logic being
> those 3 are at pretty much the same level of maturity/community
> development (although they are different in the community's size).
>
> Could you, folks, please take a look at past reports for these 3 and
> let me know your opinion? Btw, both MADlib and DataFu are working
> on the one more release right now.
>
>
I'm personally still concerned about MADLib's licensing status.
Specifically speaking, where I feel more info is needed around
modifications to the BSD licensed code.  None of that was in the legal
resolution.

I see DataFu just fixed an issue where their binaries didn't include
expected notice/license files.  I suspect if they cut a release, which
includes both source and convenience binary, and that release passes
without any issues, then they are likely ready to graduate.


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Re: [VOTE] Gobblin to enter Apache Incubator

2017-02-19 Thread Craig Russell 
Excellent proposal.

+1 (binding)

Craig

> On Feb 16, 2017, at 9:33 PM, Olivier Lamy  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> I would like to call a vote for accepting "Gobblin" for incubation in the
> Apache Incubator.
> The full proposal is available below, and is also available in the wiki:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/GobblinProposal
> 
> Please cast your vote:
> 
>  [ ] +1, bring Gobblin into Incubator
>  [ ] +0, I don't care either way,
>  [ ] -1, do not bring Gobblin into Incubator, because...
> 
> The vote will open at least for 72 hours and only votes from the Incubator
> PMC are binding.
> 
> I start with my vote:
> +1 (binding)
> 
> Cheers
> -- 
> Olivier Lamy
> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
> 
> 
> = Apache Gobblin Proposal =

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Re: [VOTE] Gobblin to enter Apache Incubator

2017-02-19 Thread Craig Russell 
Hi Olivier,

Can you also post the link to this proposal on 
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ProjectProposals ?

Thanks,

Craig

> On Feb 16, 2017, at 9:33 PM, Olivier Lamy  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> I would like to call a vote for accepting "Gobblin" for incubation in the
> Apache Incubator.
> The full proposal is available below, and is also available in the wiki:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/GobblinProposal
> 

Craig L Russell
Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
c...@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo


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