Re: Slack support?

2017-03-22 Thread Ted Dunning
If you have a podling who wants to use slack, have them register under
their podling name and deal with it. No impact on infra needed. It's like
having yet another twitter account.





On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:18 PM, Greg Stein  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Evan Hughes 
> wrote:
>
> > Another option could be asking infra to host a rocket.chat server so we
> can
> > control the instances.
> >
>
> Sorry, Evan, but hosting a chat service is not an option for
> Infrastructure. That would be contrary to our work on consolidating
> services.
>
> We can have HipChat rooms for any/all projects. A simple Jira request, and
> you're all set.
>
> In short, the ASF is happy to have duplicative topics/projects because each
> community may approach a problem in different ways, with different focuses.
> But our Infra resources are limited, so we can't/won't stand up duplicate
> services. And even better when they can be outsourced (like HipChat, and
> increasingly GitHub).
>
> Cheers,
> Greg Stein
> Infrastructure Administrator, ASF
>


Re: Slack support?

2017-03-22 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Evan Hughes  wrote:

> Another option could be asking infra to host a rocket.chat server so we can
> control the instances.
>

Sorry, Evan, but hosting a chat service is not an option for
Infrastructure. That would be contrary to our work on consolidating
services.

We can have HipChat rooms for any/all projects. A simple Jira request, and
you're all set.

In short, the ASF is happy to have duplicative topics/projects because each
community may approach a problem in different ways, with different focuses.
But our Infra resources are limited, so we can't/won't stand up duplicate
services. And even better when they can be outsourced (like HipChat, and
increasingly GitHub).

Cheers,
Greg Stein
Infrastructure Administrator, ASF


Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Guacamole 0.9.12-incubating (RC1)

2017-03-22 Thread Mike Jumper
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 9:11 PM, Mike Jumper 
wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 8:34 PM, John D. Ament 
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 7:55 PM Justin Mclean 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > > Does the license of autotools need to be included in LICENSE?
>> >
>> > Good question. Other projects that use it don't add to license INAL but
>> > given the exclusion states you’re allowed to distribute under your own
>> > terms [2] I think that’s OK.
>> >
>> > > I do see reference to autotools being approved for usage within the
>> ASF
>> >
>> > Correct see [1]
>> >
>> >
>> Right - the main note is that a few files have a mixed ASF and FSF header
>> which isn't right either.  But that might be limited to Makefile.in.
>>
>>
> For reference, there are quire a few auto-generated files produced by the
> GNU Autotools built-in "make dist" target that builds the source .tar.gz.
> Though not necessarily pertinent to the release, we have those excluded
> from git, so there's a list of what is autogenerated within .gitignore:
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-guacamole-server/blob/
> cbca2f169b708a34dabc72a91a9a2dec653126fb/.gitignore#L22-L46
>
> If something needs to be done to LICENSE, etc. to list GNU Autotools'
> terms, please let us know, but I highly doubt we can control whether GNU
> Autotools includes its own headers within generated files.
>
> I believe it's possible to force autotools to exclude the ASF headers if
> we replace the "#" with "dnl" in all relevant build files [1] ... but since
> the generated files will contain portions of the source of the original
> build files, I'm not sure stripping the ASF headers would be correct either.
>
>
Should it be determined that this is indeed necessary, I've just now
verified that the ASF headers can indeed be excluded from all autogenerated
build output if the leading "#" is replaced with "##" in configure.ac and
all Makefile.am, though I'm still not sure if that's proper due to the
output containing occasional verbatim bits of the original
non-autogenerated build file source (especially the Makefiles ultimately
produced from the Makefile.am's).

- Mike


Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Guacamole 0.9.12-incubating (RC1)

2017-03-22 Thread Mike Jumper
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 8:34 PM, John D. Ament 
wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 7:55 PM Justin Mclean 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > > Does the license of autotools need to be included in LICENSE?
> >
> > Good question. Other projects that use it don't add to license INAL but
> > given the exclusion states you’re allowed to distribute under your own
> > terms [2] I think that’s OK.
> >
> > > I do see reference to autotools being approved for usage within the ASF
> >
> > Correct see [1]
> >
> >
> Right - the main note is that a few files have a mixed ASF and FSF header
> which isn't right either.  But that might be limited to Makefile.in.
>
>
For reference, there are quire a few auto-generated files produced by the
GNU Autotools built-in "make dist" target that builds the source .tar.gz.
Though not necessarily pertinent to the release, we have those excluded
from git, so there's a list of what is autogenerated within .gitignore:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-guacamole-server/blob/cbca2f169b708a34dabc72a91a9a2dec653126fb/.gitignore#L22-L46

If something needs to be done to LICENSE, etc. to list GNU Autotools'
terms, please let us know, but I highly doubt we can control whether GNU
Autotools includes its own headers within generated files.

I believe it's possible to force autotools to exclude the ASF headers if we
replace the "#" with "dnl" in all relevant build files [1] ... but since
the generated files will contain portions of the source of the original
build files, I'm not sure stripping the ASF headers would be correct either.

Thanks,

- Mike

[1] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3371239/autoconf-dnl-vs


Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Guacamole 0.9.12-incubating (RC1)

2017-03-22 Thread John D. Ament
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 7:55 PM Justin Mclean 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > Does the license of autotools need to be included in LICENSE?
>
> Good question. Other projects that use it don't add to license INAL but
> given the exclusion states you’re allowed to distribute under your own
> terms [2] I think that’s OK.
>
> > I do see reference to autotools being approved for usage within the ASF
>
> Correct see [1]
>
>
Right - the main note is that a few files have a mixed ASF and FSF header
which isn't right either.  But that might be limited to Makefile.in.


> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1. https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#build-tools
> 2. https://www.gnu.org/licenses/autoconf-exception-3.0.en.html
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Re: Slack support?

2017-03-22 Thread Evan Hughes
Another option could be asking infra to host a rocket.chat server so we can
control the instances.

On 23 Mar 2017 12:03 PM, "John D. Ament"  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:08 PM Ted Dunning  wrote:
>
> > Does the Incubator actually have to *do* anything to allow Slack support?
> >
> > If not, and if the normal rules for chat are followed (echoing to the
> > mailing list), then is there any need to ask?
> >
> >
> Basically, what it comes down to is having a PMC own it for a trial period,
> and if we see benefits moving it into a more supportable means.  All TBD.
>
> This email is an example of the type of summary I expect to see podlings
> have.  A quick chat happened on hipchat with Greg and Shane basically
> saying "no objections" but pointing out it wouldn't be an infra owned
> item.  We'd have to come up with ways to support it.  I just looked, turns
> out someone else already took apache.slack.com so we'd have to do
> something
> else (or figure out who created it; that something else could be
> asf.slack.com).
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:40 PM, John D. Ament 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hey guys
> > >
> > > Just wondering, would there be interest within the Incubator allow
> Slack
> > > support?  Presently ASF has support for HipChat and Gitter, but I see
> > more
> > > podlings coming in asking for Slack support.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> >
>


Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Guacamole 0.9.12-incubating (RC1)

2017-03-22 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

> Does the license of autotools need to be included in LICENSE?

Good question. Other projects that use it don't add to license INAL but given 
the exclusion states you’re allowed to distribute under your own terms [2] I 
think that’s OK.

> I do see reference to autotools being approved for usage within the ASF

Correct see [1]

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#build-tools
2. https://www.gnu.org/licenses/autoconf-exception-3.0.en.html
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Guacamole 0.9.12-incubating (RC1)

2017-03-22 Thread Mike Jumper
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 7:11 PM, John D. Ament 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> So I'll be up front - I have mixed feelings about the download page.  I
> love the format, it works well.  I dislike that you're linking to
> unapproved releases, but it does have a decent warning sign.
>
>
The release notes / download page is only available through direct link
(it's not linked from anywhere on the site whatsoever).

What would be the preferred alternative? Not staging the release notes, and
linking to all artifacts directly within the vote email?


> Some items I'm noticing:
>
> - The included dockerfile should reference the guacamole community instead
> a single author for the maintainer
>

Fair enough. The single author is a holdover from the pre-Apache days. I'll
open an issue to address this.


> - There's a few files such as Makefile.in that have a mix of ASF and
> non-ASF headers, which isn't really appropriate.


Makefile.in is autogenerated. Non-ASF headers are present because they're
placed there by GNU Autotools. I don't think it's possible to configure
autotools to not include their headers in its output.

I also don't see the FSF
> claim in the License file.
>
>
Does the license of autotools need to be included in LICENSE? I do see
reference to autotools being approved for usage within the ASF, but not any
example to how the license of those tools should be cited in practice,
being not a bundled dependency per se.

https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#build-tools

What would you recommend here?

Thanks,

- Mike


Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Guacamole 0.9.12-incubating (RC1)

2017-03-22 Thread John D. Ament
Hi,

So I'll be up front - I have mixed feelings about the download page.  I
love the format, it works well.  I dislike that you're linking to
unapproved releases, but it does have a decent warning sign.

Some items I'm noticing:

- The included dockerfile should reference the guacamole community instead
a single author for the maintainer
- There's a few files such as Makefile.in that have a mix of ASF and
non-ASF headers, which isn't really appropriate.  I also don't see the FSF
claim in the License file.

Please note - don't treat these questions as a -1, I want to understand
better the plan of implementation, as I don't recall the last time we
looked at guac.

John

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 7:03 PM Mike Jumper 
wrote:

> Hello Incubator PMC,
>
> The Apache Guacamole community has voted on and approved a proposal to
> release Apache Guacamole 0.9.12-incubating.
>
> We now kindly request that the Incubator PMC members review and vote on
> this incubator release.
>
> The VOTE RESULT is here:
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-
> guacamole-dev/201703.mbox/%3CCALKeL-Op5PO2nD%2Bw0SEU52L_
> HZTD0DU4KtfwQo294fQ3ObCp%3DA%40mail.gmail.com%3E
>
> The draft release notes (along with links to artifacts,
> signatures/checksums, and updated documentation) can be found here:
>
> http://guacamole.incubator.apache.org/releases/0.9.12-incubating/
>
> The git tag for all relevant repositories is "0.9.12-incubating-RC1":
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-guacamole-client/tree/0.
> 9.12-incubating-RC1
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-guacamole-server/tree/0.
> 9.12-incubating-RC1
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-guacamole-manual/tree/0.
> 9.12-incubating-RC1
>
> Build instructions are included in the manual, which is part of the updated
> documentation referenced above. For convenience:
>
> http://guacamole.incubator.apache.org/doc/0.9.12-incubating/
> gug/installing-guacamole.html
>
> Maven artifacts for guacamole-common-js and guacamole-ext can be found in
> the following staging repository (guacamole-common is unchanged from the
> previous release):
>
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheguacamole-1006
>
> Source and binary distributions (also linked within the release notes):
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/guacamole/0
> .9.12-incubating-RC1/
>
> Artifacts have been signed with the "mjum...@apache.org" key listed in:
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/guacamole/KEYS
>
> Please review and vote:
>
> [ ] +1 Approve the release
> [ ] -1 Don't approve the release (please provide specific comments)
>
> This vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Mike
>


[VOTE] Release Apache Guacamole 0.9.12-incubating (RC1)

2017-03-22 Thread Mike Jumper
Hello Incubator PMC,

The Apache Guacamole community has voted on and approved a proposal to
release Apache Guacamole 0.9.12-incubating.

We now kindly request that the Incubator PMC members review and vote on
this incubator release.

The VOTE RESULT is here:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-
guacamole-dev/201703.mbox/%3CCALKeL-Op5PO2nD%2Bw0SEU52L_
HZTD0DU4KtfwQo294fQ3ObCp%3DA%40mail.gmail.com%3E

The draft release notes (along with links to artifacts,
signatures/checksums, and updated documentation) can be found here:

http://guacamole.incubator.apache.org/releases/0.9.12-incubating/

The git tag for all relevant repositories is "0.9.12-incubating-RC1":

https://github.com/apache/incubator-guacamole-client/tree/0.
9.12-incubating-RC1
https://github.com/apache/incubator-guacamole-server/tree/0.
9.12-incubating-RC1
https://github.com/apache/incubator-guacamole-manual/tree/0.
9.12-incubating-RC1

Build instructions are included in the manual, which is part of the updated
documentation referenced above. For convenience:

http://guacamole.incubator.apache.org/doc/0.9.12-incubating/
gug/installing-guacamole.html

Maven artifacts for guacamole-common-js and guacamole-ext can be found in
the following staging repository (guacamole-common is unchanged from the
previous release):

https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheguacamole-1006

Source and binary distributions (also linked within the release notes):

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/guacamole/0
.9.12-incubating-RC1/

Artifacts have been signed with the "mjum...@apache.org" key listed in:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/guacamole/KEYS

Please review and vote:

[ ] +1 Approve the release
[ ] -1 Don't approve the release (please provide specific comments)

This vote will be open for at least 72 hours.

Thanks,

- Mike


Re: Slack support?

2017-03-22 Thread John D. Ament
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:08 PM Ted Dunning  wrote:

> Does the Incubator actually have to *do* anything to allow Slack support?
>
> If not, and if the normal rules for chat are followed (echoing to the
> mailing list), then is there any need to ask?
>
>
Basically, what it comes down to is having a PMC own it for a trial period,
and if we see benefits moving it into a more supportable means.  All TBD.

This email is an example of the type of summary I expect to see podlings
have.  A quick chat happened on hipchat with Greg and Shane basically
saying "no objections" but pointing out it wouldn't be an infra owned
item.  We'd have to come up with ways to support it.  I just looked, turns
out someone else already took apache.slack.com so we'd have to do something
else (or figure out who created it; that something else could be
asf.slack.com).


>
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:40 PM, John D. Ament 
> wrote:
>
> > Hey guys
> >
> > Just wondering, would there be interest within the Incubator allow Slack
> > support?  Presently ASF has support for HipChat and Gitter, but I see
> more
> > podlings coming in asking for Slack support.
> >
> > John
> >
>


Re: Slack

2017-03-22 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Craig Russell  wrote:

> My takeaway is that Slack not a substitute for email. But it is useful for
> ping-pong communication when people are in the heat of development.
>
> But no decisions are made on Slack, and any discussion there (aside from
> “add a semicolon there” and “let’s get lunch") needs to be brought back to
> the dev list.
>
> The underlying principle is that “if it didn’t happen on dev, then it didn’t
> happen”. We strive for open, inclusive communications at Apache and that
> means attempting to encourage participation by everyone who wants to,
> regardless of primary language, time zone, and availability of tools. (We
> assume everyone has a device that handles email clients).

+1

I would add one more criteria: availability.  Real-time communication
channels, should they be used for development (as opposed to user support),
privilege core devs who follow the project every waking minute and exclude
everyone on the periphery.

Efficient asynchronous decision making over email is a skill, and mastering it
is key to success as an Apache community.  It takes practice, because the way
you present ideas for asynchronous consumption is not the same as the way
you'd do it in real-time.

The question I always have when podlings ask about Slack, IRC, videochat,
face-to-face convos in meatspace, or any real-time communication channel, is
whether they appreciate why they need to master email.

Marvin Humphrey

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Re: Slack support?

2017-03-22 Thread Ted Dunning
Does the Incubator actually have to *do* anything to allow Slack support?

If not, and if the normal rules for chat are followed (echoing to the
mailing list), then is there any need to ask?



On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:40 PM, John D. Ament 
wrote:

> Hey guys
>
> Just wondering, would there be interest within the Incubator allow Slack
> support?  Presently ASF has support for HipChat and Gitter, but I see more
> podlings coming in asking for Slack support.
>
> John
>


Re: Slack support?

2017-03-22 Thread Tom Barber
I don't see why its any different to other IRC channels. Apache Drill has
been using it officially or unofficially for a while now (I assume they
still do its been a while since I was there).

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:43 AM, James Bognar 
wrote:

> There's interest from me personally.  Slack appears to be becoming
> popular.  HipChat appears to be slowing down in interest.
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:40 PM, John D. Ament 
> wrote:
>
> > Hey guys
> >
> > Just wondering, would there be interest within the Incubator allow Slack
> > support?  Presently ASF has support for HipChat and Gitter, but I see
> more
> > podlings coming in asking for Slack support.
> >
> > John
> >
>
>
>
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>



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Re: Slack support?

2017-03-22 Thread Sterling Hughes
+1

> On Mar 22, 2017, at 5:43 PM, James Bognar  wrote:
> 
> There's interest from me personally.  Slack appears to be becoming
> popular.  HipChat appears to be slowing down in interest.
> 
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:40 PM, John D. Ament 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hey guys
>> 
>> Just wondering, would there be interest within the Incubator allow Slack
>> support?  Presently ASF has support for HipChat and Gitter, but I see more
>> podlings coming in asking for Slack support.
>> 
>> John
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Slack support?

2017-03-22 Thread Gregory Chase
Slack is becoming a standard in many non ASF communities.

RabbitMQ recently switched from IRC to Slack as its "real time"
conversation.

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:43 PM, James Bognar 
wrote:

> There's interest from me personally.  Slack appears to be becoming
> popular.  HipChat appears to be slowing down in interest.
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:40 PM, John D. Ament 
> wrote:
>
> > Hey guys
> >
> > Just wondering, would there be interest within the Incubator allow Slack
> > support?  Presently ASF has support for HipChat and Gitter, but I see
> more
> > podlings coming in asking for Slack support.
> >
> > John
> >
>
>
>
> --
> James Bognar
>



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Re: Slack support?

2017-03-22 Thread James Bognar
There's interest from me personally.  Slack appears to be becoming
popular.  HipChat appears to be slowing down in interest.

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:40 PM, John D. Ament 
wrote:

> Hey guys
>
> Just wondering, would there be interest within the Incubator allow Slack
> support?  Presently ASF has support for HipChat and Gitter, but I see more
> podlings coming in asking for Slack support.
>
> John
>



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Slack support?

2017-03-22 Thread John D. Ament
Hey guys

Just wondering, would there be interest within the Incubator allow Slack
support?  Presently ASF has support for HipChat and Gitter, but I see more
podlings coming in asking for Slack support.

John


Re: [VOTE] Apache Fineract podling graduation (restarted with corrected proposal)

2017-03-22 Thread Tom Barber
Absolutely +1 having seen Myrle at ApacheCon and give the lightning talk
about Fineract, it looks like an amazing project.

Tom

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:42 PM, Justin Mclean 
wrote:

> +1 (binding)
>
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[CANCEL] [VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.6.2 (incubating)

2017-03-22 Thread Svante Schubert
I have been told about a problem with dependency files in some sub projects
with in the JAR of stage area. Going to correct this and going to use more
secure signature version than SHA1.

Sorry for any inconvenience,
Svante

2017-03-20 22:59 GMT+01:00 Svante Schubert :

> Hi,
>
> This is our call for a vote on the Apache ODF Toolkit (incubating) release
> 0.6.2-incubating.
>
> The release candidate 0.6.2-incubating RC2 has successfully passed a vote
> for a release on the odf toolkit developer mailing list.
>
> Vote thread:
>   http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-odf-dev
> /201703.mbox/%3CCAHNbw8%3DojgmkGyucCByEVzUV%3DCnJF6TVvMEPESL
> CyQTi-VLn_w%40mail.gmail.com%3E
>
> Results:
>   http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-odf-dev
> /201703.mbox/%3CCAHNbw8mLvyYZidUH3MtSVzkkvSaCY1WQm9TiDEfLR_
> BuzU7Qjw%40mail.gmail.com%3E
>
> Source artifacts:
>   https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/
> odftoolkit/0.6.2-incubating
>
> Staged artifacts:
>   https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgap
> acheodftoolkit-1006
>
> SVN source:
>   https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/odf/tags/o
> dftoolkit-0.6.2-incubating
>
> Issues fixed:
>   https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?
> reset=true=project+%3D+ODFTOOLKIT+AND+fixVersion+%
> 3D+0.6.2-incubating+ORDER+BY+status+DESC%2C+priority+DESC=hide
>
> Release Notes:
>   https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/odf/tags/o
> dftoolkit-0.6.2-incubating/CHANGES.txt
>
> The artifacts have been signed with key : 862EA1DEE2EC7D45
>
> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache ODF Toolkit (incubating)
> release 0.6.2-incubating:
>
> This vote will be open for 72 hours.
>
>  [ ] +1, accept as the official 0.6.2-incubating release
>  [ ] -1, do not accept as the official 0.6.2-incubating release
>
> Svante on behalf of the Apache ODF Toolkit (incubating) team
>
> Thanks in advance for your vote!
> Svante
> ᐧ
>

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Re: [VOTE] Apache Fineract podling graduation (restarted with corrected proposal)

2017-03-22 Thread Justin Mclean
+1 (binding)

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Re: Slack

2017-03-22 Thread Craig Russell
Hi James,

There was a pretty extensive discussion on the netbeans dev list. I’d encourage 
you to review this thread 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2dce365d03334c82d31b12c8b3dcad1a925a2f71af75658b8d8a5a07@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E

You can get all of the messages in the thread by doing a quick search for 
“slack” on the d...@netbeans.apache.org list in lists.apache.org.

My takeaway is that Slack not a substitute for email. But it is useful for 
ping-pong communication when people are in the heat of development.

But no decisions are made on Slack, and any discussion there (aside from “add a 
semicolon there” and “let’s get lunch") needs to be brought back to the dev 
list.

The underlying principle is that “if it didn’t happen on dev, then it didn’t 
happen”. We strive for open, inclusive communications at Apache and that means 
attempting to encourage participation by everyone who wants to, regardless of 
primary language, time zone, and availability of tools. (We assume everyone has 
a device that handles email clients).

Hope this helps.

Craig

> On Mar 22, 2017, at 1:27 PM, James Bognar  wrote:
> 
> Can someone remind me?  I thought there was a discussion a couple of months
> ago about allowing incubator projects to use Slack for communication.  What
> was the final decision?

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Slack

2017-03-22 Thread James Bognar
Can someone remind me?  I thought there was a discussion a couple of months
ago about allowing incubator projects to use Slack for communication.  What
was the final decision?


Re: [VOTE] Apache Quickstep (incubating) 0.1.0 RC7

2017-03-22 Thread Julian Hyde
Forwarding my vote:

+1 (binding)


> On Mar 22, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Jignesh Patel  wrote:
> 
> Forwarding my +1 too from the incubator vote.
> 
> Cheers,
> Jignesh
> 
> On 3/21/17, 9:12 PM, "Josh Elser"  els...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>Fwding +1 (binding) from ppmc list.
> 
>On Mar 21, 2017 21:47, "Marc Spehlmann"  wrote:
> 
>> The Apache Incubator Quickstep community has approved a vote to release
>> Quickstep-0.1.0 RC7. Quickstep is a high performance relational database
>> system built from the ground up for modern hardware.
>> 
>> We had a discussion on the general list in RC6 about fixing some issues
>> with the LICENSE and NOTICE files. These are mostly fixed, though we did
>> add a task in Jira to be even more prepared at our next release.
>> 
>> Please vote on the release of 0.1.0.
>> 
>> This vote will stay open through Friday evening.
>> 
>> -Marc
>> ___
>> The vote and results thread from dev:
>> *https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@quickstep.incubator.
>> apache.org/msg02162.html
>> > apache.org/msg02162.html>*
>> 
>> *https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@quickstep.incubator.
>> apache.org/msg02180.html
>> > apache.org/msg02180.html>*
>> 
>> The commit to be voted upon:
>> *https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-
>> quickstep.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/quickstep-0.1.0
>> > quickstep.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/quickstep-0.1.0>*
>> 
>> The artifacts to be voted on are located here:
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/quickstep/0.1.0/RC7/
>> 
>> Release artifacts are signed with the following key:
>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/spehl
>> 
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Quickstep (incubating) 0.1.0 RC7

2017-03-22 Thread Jignesh Patel
Forwarding my +1 too from the incubator vote.

Cheers,
Jignesh

On 3/21/17, 9:12 PM, "Josh Elser"  wrote:

Fwding +1 (binding) from ppmc list.

On Mar 21, 2017 21:47, "Marc Spehlmann"  wrote:

> The Apache Incubator Quickstep community has approved a vote to release
> Quickstep-0.1.0 RC7. Quickstep is a high performance relational database
> system built from the ground up for modern hardware.
>
> We had a discussion on the general list in RC6 about fixing some issues
> with the LICENSE and NOTICE files. These are mostly fixed, though we did
> add a task in Jira to be even more prepared at our next release.
>
> Please vote on the release of 0.1.0.
>
> This vote will stay open through Friday evening.
>
> -Marc
> ___
> The vote and results thread from dev:
> *https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@quickstep.incubator.
> apache.org/msg02162.html
>  apache.org/msg02162.html>*
>
> *https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@quickstep.incubator.
> apache.org/msg02180.html
>  apache.org/msg02180.html>*
>
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> *https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-
> quickstep.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/quickstep-0.1.0
>  quickstep.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/quickstep-0.1.0>*
>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Fineract podling graduation (restarted with corrected proposal)

2017-03-22 Thread Jim Jagielski
+1 (binding)

> On Mar 22, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Myrle Krantz  wrote:
> 
> Greetings Incubator,
> 
> I propose that we graduate Apache Fineract from the Incubator.  The
> full text of the proposal is below.
> 
> This is a restarted VOTE thread to correct an error in the resolution
> from the original thread. Here's the previous VOTE thread:
> 
> [https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1cbc738bbb4083e50b7772d5226b88d3fe321b91451303a69dbc4fa8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E]
> 
> And here's the DISCUSS thread:
> 
> [https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/630d3ec22b4f72f827cd817a0a4da5c3c52dee4f96f47a1369f5dc50@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E]
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> Myrle Krantz
> 
> 
> Resolution:
> 
> Establish the Apache Fineract Project
> 
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> public, related to a core banking platform that provides a reliable,
> robust, and affordable solution for entrepreneurs, financial
> institutions, and service providers to offer financial
> services to the world's underbanked and unbanked.
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Fineract Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Fineract Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to a core banking platform that provides a reliable,
> robust, and affordable solution for entrepreneurs, financial
> institutions, and service providers to offer financial
> services to the world's underbanked and unbanked.
> 
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Fineract" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache Fineract Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache Fineract Project; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache Fineract Project:
> 
> * Vishwas Babu AJ 
> * Edward Cable 
> * Markus Geiss 
> * Sander van der Heijden 
> * Ishan Khanna 
> * Myrle Krantz 
> * Terence Monteiro 
> * Adi Nayaran Raju 
> * Gaurav Saini 
> * Nazeer Hussain Shaik 
> * Jim Jagielski 
> * Michael Vorburger 
> 
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Myrle Krantz
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Fineract, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Fineract PMC be and hereby is
> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache Fineract Project; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Fineract Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Fineract podling; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Fineract podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
> 
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Fineract podling graduation (restarted with corrected proposal)

2017-03-22 Thread Niclas Hedhman
+1

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Myrle Krantz  wrote:

> Greetings Incubator,
>
> I propose that we graduate Apache Fineract from the Incubator.  The
> full text of the proposal is below.
>
> This is a restarted VOTE thread to correct an error in the resolution
> from the original thread. Here's the previous VOTE thread:
>
> [https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1cbc738bbb4083e50b7772d5226b88
> d3fe321b91451303a69dbc4fa8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E]
>
> And here's the DISCUSS thread:
>
> [https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/630d3ec22b4f72f827cd817a0a4da5
> c3c52dee4f96f47a1369f5dc50@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E]
>
>
> Thank you,
> Myrle Krantz
>
>
> Resolution:
>
> Establish the Apache Fineract Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> public, related to a core banking platform that provides a reliable,
> robust, and affordable solution for entrepreneurs, financial
> institutions, and service providers to offer financial
> services to the world's underbanked and unbanked.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Fineract Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Fineract Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to a core banking platform that provides a reliable,
> robust, and affordable solution for entrepreneurs, financial
> institutions, and service providers to offer financial
> services to the world's underbanked and unbanked.
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Fineract" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache Fineract Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache Fineract Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache Fineract Project:
>
> * Vishwas Babu AJ 
> * Edward Cable 
> * Markus Geiss 
> * Sander van der Heijden 
> * Ishan Khanna 
> * Myrle Krantz 
> * Terence Monteiro 
> * Adi Nayaran Raju 
> * Gaurav Saini 
> * Nazeer Hussain Shaik 
> * Jim Jagielski 
> * Michael Vorburger 
>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Myrle Krantz
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Fineract, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Fineract PMC be and hereby is
> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache Fineract Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Fineract Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Fineract podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Fineract podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Fineract podling graduation (restarted with corrected proposal)

2017-03-22 Thread Pierre Smits
+1 (again from the non-binding benches).

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM 
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Roman Shaposhnik 
wrote:

> +1 (binding)
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
> P.S. This is a repeat of a previous vote.
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 7:11 AM, Myrle Krantz  wrote:
> > Greetings Incubator,
> >
> > I propose that we graduate Apache Fineract from the Incubator.  The
> > full text of the proposal is below.
> >
> > This is a restarted VOTE thread to correct an error in the resolution
> > from the original thread. Here's the previous VOTE thread:
> >
> > [https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1cbc738bbb4083e50b7772d5226b88
> d3fe321b91451303a69dbc4fa8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E]
> >
> > And here's the DISCUSS thread:
> >
> > [https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/630d3ec22b4f72f827cd817a0a4da5
> c3c52dee4f96f47a1369f5dc50@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E]
> >
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Myrle Krantz
> >
> >
> > Resolution:
> >
> > Establish the Apache Fineract Project
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> > public, related to a core banking platform that provides a reliable,
> > robust, and affordable solution for entrepreneurs, financial
> > institutions, and service providers to offer financial
> > services to the world's underbanked and unbanked.
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Fineract Project",
> > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> > Foundation; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Fineract Project be and hereby is
> > responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> > related to a core banking platform that provides a reliable,
> > robust, and affordable solution for entrepreneurs, financial
> > institutions, and service providers to offer financial
> > services to the world's underbanked and unbanked.
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Fineract" be
> > and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> > serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> > of the Apache Fineract Project, and to have primary responsibility
> > for management of the projects within the scope of
> > responsibility of the Apache Fineract Project; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> > hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> > Apache Fineract Project:
> >
> > * Vishwas Babu AJ 
> > * Edward Cable 
> > * Markus Geiss 
> > * Sander van der Heijden 
> > * Ishan Khanna 
> > * Myrle Krantz 
> > * Terence Monteiro 
> > * Adi Nayaran Raju 
> > * Gaurav Saini 
> > * Nazeer Hussain Shaik 
> > * Jim Jagielski 
> > * Michael Vorburger 
> >
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Myrle Krantz
> > be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Fineract, to
> > serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> > Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> > death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> > or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Fineract PMC be and hereby is
> > tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> > encourage open development and increased participation in the
> > Apache Fineract Project; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Fineract Project be and hereby
> > is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> > Incubator Fineract podling; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> > Incubator Fineract podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> > Project are hereafter discharged.
> >
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Fineract podling graduation (restarted with corrected proposal)

2017-03-22 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
+1 (binding)

Thanks,
Roman.

P.S. This is a repeat of a previous vote.

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 7:11 AM, Myrle Krantz  wrote:
> Greetings Incubator,
>
> I propose that we graduate Apache Fineract from the Incubator.  The
> full text of the proposal is below.
>
> This is a restarted VOTE thread to correct an error in the resolution
> from the original thread. Here's the previous VOTE thread:
>
> [https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1cbc738bbb4083e50b7772d5226b88d3fe321b91451303a69dbc4fa8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E]
>
> And here's the DISCUSS thread:
>
> [https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/630d3ec22b4f72f827cd817a0a4da5c3c52dee4f96f47a1369f5dc50@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E]
>
>
> Thank you,
> Myrle Krantz
>
>
> Resolution:
>
> Establish the Apache Fineract Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> public, related to a core banking platform that provides a reliable,
> robust, and affordable solution for entrepreneurs, financial
> institutions, and service providers to offer financial
> services to the world's underbanked and unbanked.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Fineract Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Fineract Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to a core banking platform that provides a reliable,
> robust, and affordable solution for entrepreneurs, financial
> institutions, and service providers to offer financial
> services to the world's underbanked and unbanked.
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Fineract" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache Fineract Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache Fineract Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache Fineract Project:
>
> * Vishwas Babu AJ 
> * Edward Cable 
> * Markus Geiss 
> * Sander van der Heijden 
> * Ishan Khanna 
> * Myrle Krantz 
> * Terence Monteiro 
> * Adi Nayaran Raju 
> * Gaurav Saini 
> * Nazeer Hussain Shaik 
> * Jim Jagielski 
> * Michael Vorburger 
>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Myrle Krantz
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Fineract, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Fineract PMC be and hereby is
> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache Fineract Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Fineract Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Fineract podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Fineract podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Fineract podling graduation (restarted with corrected proposal)

2017-03-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Myrle Krantz  wrote:
> ...I propose that we graduate Apache Fineract from the Incubator

Repeating my +1 ;-)

-Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] Apache Fineract podling graduation (restarted with corrected proposal)

2017-03-22 Thread Daniel Gruno
+1 (binding), best of luck!!

On 03/22/2017 03:11 PM, Myrle Krantz wrote:
> Greetings Incubator,
> 
> I propose that we graduate Apache Fineract from the Incubator.  The
> full text of the proposal is below.
> 
> This is a restarted VOTE thread to correct an error in the resolution
> from the original thread. Here's the previous VOTE thread:
> 
> [https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1cbc738bbb4083e50b7772d5226b88d3fe321b91451303a69dbc4fa8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E]
> 
> And here's the DISCUSS thread:
> 
> [https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/630d3ec22b4f72f827cd817a0a4da5c3c52dee4f96f47a1369f5dc50@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E]
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> Myrle Krantz
> 
> 
> Resolution:
> 
> Establish the Apache Fineract Project
> 
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> public, related to a core banking platform that provides a reliable,
> robust, and affordable solution for entrepreneurs, financial
> institutions, and service providers to offer financial
> services to the world's underbanked and unbanked.
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Fineract Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Fineract Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to a core banking platform that provides a reliable,
> robust, and affordable solution for entrepreneurs, financial
> institutions, and service providers to offer financial
> services to the world's underbanked and unbanked.
> 
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Fineract" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache Fineract Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache Fineract Project; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache Fineract Project:
> 
> * Vishwas Babu AJ 
> * Edward Cable 
> * Markus Geiss 
> * Sander van der Heijden 
> * Ishan Khanna 
> * Myrle Krantz 
> * Terence Monteiro 
> * Adi Nayaran Raju 
> * Gaurav Saini 
> * Nazeer Hussain Shaik 
> * Jim Jagielski 
> * Michael Vorburger 
> 
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Myrle Krantz
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Fineract, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Fineract PMC be and hereby is
> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache Fineract Project; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Fineract Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Fineract podling; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Fineract podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Fineract podling graduation

2017-03-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 3:15 PM, John D. Ament  wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 4:51 AM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>> ...For completeness I would, yes, in a whole new VOTE thread.

> Personally, I disagree.  The proposal text we see on the incubator lists is
> meant to be draft, and the incubator only provides a recommendation vote...

+1 - it's good to catch textual mistakes like the one that happened
here, but that one didn't change the intent of the vote, it's just a
"large typo".

Nevertheless the vote is restarted in a different thread now, so this
discussion doesn't change anything for Fineract.

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[VOTE] Apache Fineract podling graduation (restarted with corrected proposal)

2017-03-22 Thread Myrle Krantz
Greetings Incubator,

I propose that we graduate Apache Fineract from the Incubator.  The
full text of the proposal is below.

This is a restarted VOTE thread to correct an error in the resolution
from the original thread. Here's the previous VOTE thread:

[https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1cbc738bbb4083e50b7772d5226b88d3fe321b91451303a69dbc4fa8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E]

And here's the DISCUSS thread:

[https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/630d3ec22b4f72f827cd817a0a4da5c3c52dee4f96f47a1369f5dc50@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E]


Thank you,
Myrle Krantz


Resolution:

Establish the Apache Fineract Project

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
public, related to a core banking platform that provides a reliable,
robust, and affordable solution for entrepreneurs, financial
institutions, and service providers to offer financial
services to the world's underbanked and unbanked.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Fineract Project",
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Fineract Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to a core banking platform that provides a reliable,
robust, and affordable solution for entrepreneurs, financial
institutions, and service providers to offer financial
services to the world's underbanked and unbanked.

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Fineract" be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache Fineract Project, and to have primary responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache Fineract Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache Fineract Project:

* Vishwas Babu AJ 
* Edward Cable 
* Markus Geiss 
* Sander van der Heijden 
* Ishan Khanna 
* Myrle Krantz 
* Terence Monteiro 
* Adi Nayaran Raju 
* Gaurav Saini 
* Nazeer Hussain Shaik 
* Jim Jagielski 
* Michael Vorburger 


NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Myrle Krantz
be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Fineract, to
serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Fineract PMC be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
encourage open development and increased participation in the
Apache Fineract Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Fineract Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator Fineract podling; and be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator Fineract podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.

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Re: [VOTE] Apache Fineract podling graduation

2017-03-22 Thread John D. Ament
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 4:51 AM Jim Jagielski  wrote:

>
> > On Mar 21, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Myrle Krantz  wrote:
> >
> >
> > I've attached a new version of the resolution below with the WHEREAS
> > attached.  Do I need to restart the vote?
> >
>
> For completeness I would, yes, in a whole new VOTE thread.
>
>
Personally, I disagree.  The proposal text we see on the incubator lists is
meant to be draft, and the incubator only provides a recommendation vote.
If there are minor changes that the board wants to see after the podling
has submitted the draft to the board alias, those can be addressed without
requiring another round of voting.


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Re: [VOTE] Apache Fineract podling graduation

2017-03-22 Thread Myrle Krantz
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>
>> On Mar 21, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Myrle Krantz  wrote:
>>
>>
>> I've attached a new version of the resolution below with the WHEREAS
>> attached.  Do I need to restart the vote?
>>
>
> For completeness I would, yes, in a whole new VOTE thread.
>

You're right Jim.  Thank you to everyone who has already voted.  I
humbly request that you revote in the new thread I just opened.  This
voting thread is hereby closed without a result.

Greets,
Myrle

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Re: [VOTE] Apache Fineract podling graduation (restarted with corrected proposal)

2017-03-22 Thread John D. Ament
Repeating my +1.

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 7:11 AM Myrle Krantz  wrote:

> Greetings Incubator,
>
> I propose that we graduate Apache Fineract from the Incubator.  The
> full text of the proposal is below.
>
> This is a restarted VOTE thread to correct an error in the resolution
> from the original thread. Here's the previous VOTE thread:
>
> [
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1cbc738bbb4083e50b7772d5226b88d3fe321b91451303a69dbc4fa8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> ]
>
> And here's the DISCUSS thread:
>
> [
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/630d3ec22b4f72f827cd817a0a4da5c3c52dee4f96f47a1369f5dc50@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> ]
>
>
> Thank you,
> Myrle Krantz
>
>
> Resolution:
>
> Establish the Apache Fineract Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> public, related to a core banking platform that provides a reliable,
> robust, and affordable solution for entrepreneurs, financial
> institutions, and service providers to offer financial
> services to the world's underbanked and unbanked.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Fineract Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Fineract Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to a core banking platform that provides a reliable,
> robust, and affordable solution for entrepreneurs, financial
> institutions, and service providers to offer financial
> services to the world's underbanked and unbanked.
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Fineract" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache Fineract Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache Fineract Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache Fineract Project:
>
> * Vishwas Babu AJ 
> * Edward Cable 
> * Markus Geiss 
> * Sander van der Heijden 
> * Ishan Khanna 
> * Myrle Krantz 
> * Terence Monteiro 
> * Adi Nayaran Raju 
> * Gaurav Saini 
> * Nazeer Hussain Shaik 
> * Jim Jagielski 
> * Michael Vorburger 
>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Myrle Krantz
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Fineract, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Fineract PMC be and hereby is
> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache Fineract Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Fineract Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Fineract podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Fineract podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Fineract podling graduation

2017-03-22 Thread Jim Jagielski

> On Mar 21, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Myrle Krantz  wrote:
> 
> 
> I've attached a new version of the resolution below with the WHEREAS
> attached.  Do I need to restart the vote?
> 

For completeness I would, yes, in a whole new VOTE thread.


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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache CarbonData Project from the Incubator

2017-03-22 Thread Gangumalla, Uma


My +1 (binding) [carrying my vote from carbondata private list]

Sorry for my late vote on this


Regards,
Uma

On 3/21/17, 10:18 PM, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré"  wrote:

>Hi,
>
>this vote passed with the following result:
>
>+1 (binding): Niclas Hedhman, Julian Hyde, Henry Saputra, John D. Ament
>+1 (non binding): Pierre Smits, Timothy Chen
>
>Thanks all for the vote.
>
>I will prepare the resolution submission for the next board meeting.
>
>Regards
>JB
>
>On 03/15/2017 01:39 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>> Hi IPMC,
>>
>> Following the previous discussion, please vote on the draft resolution
>>proposed
>> by the Apache CarbonData PPMC below, which establishes Apache
>>CarbonData as a
>> new top-level project at the Apache Software Foundation, as follows:
>>
>> [ ] +1, Graduate Apache CarbonData from the Incubator.
>> [ ] +0, Don't care.
>> [ ] -1, Don't graduate Apache CarbonData from the Incubator (provide
>>details)
>>
>> The full text of the resolution is bellow.
>>
>> If approved by the Apache Incubator PMC members, the proposed
>>resolution will be
>> submitted to the Board of Directors for their consideration.
>>
>> Thanks !
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> The full-text of the draft resolution proposed by the Apache CarbonData
>>PPMC:
>>
>>  X. Establish the Apache CarbonData Project
>>
>>WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
>>the public, related to an indexed columnar data format
>>for fast analytics on big data platform.
>>
>>NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache CarbonData Project",
>>be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>Foundation; and be it further
>>
>>RESOLVED, that the Apache CarbonData Project be and hereby is
>>responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>related to a unified programming model for both batch and
>>streaming data processing, enabling efficient execution across
>>diverse distributed execution engines and providing extensibility
>>points for connecting to different technologies and user
>>communities; and be it further
>>
>>RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache CarbonData"be
>>and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>>serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>>of the Apache CarbonData Project, and to have primary responsibility
>>for management of the projects within the scope of
>>responsibility of the Apache CarbonData Project; and be it further
>>
>>RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>Apache CarbonData Project:
>>
>> * Liang Chen 
>> * Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>> * Henry Saputra 
>> * Uma Maheswara Rao G 
>> * Jenny MA 
>> * Jacky Li 
>> * Vimal Das Kammath 
>> * Jarray Qiu 
>>
>>NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Liang Chen be
>>appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache CarbonData, to
>>serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>>Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>>death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>>or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>
>>RESOLVED, that the initial Apache CarbonData PMC be and hereby is
>>tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>>encourage open development and increased participation in the
>>Apache CarbonData Project; and be it further
>>
>>RESOLVED, that the Apache CarbonData Project be and hereby
>>is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>>Incubator CarbonData podling; and be it further
>>
>>RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>>Incubator CarbonData podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>>Project are hereafter discharged.
>>
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