Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Griffin (incubating) as a TLP
Agree that it is the just time moving Apache Griffin forward, to be a TLP. On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 5:46 PM jenny li wrote: > Agree with William's proposal. > > Best Regards, > Jenny > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 5:33 PM Lionel Liu wrote: > > > As I've commented in dev list, I agree with this proposal. > > > > Thanks, > > Lionel > > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:59 PM William Guo wrote: > > > > > Hi Bertrand, > > > > > > Thanks for the feedback! We will rephrase this in coming voting phase. > > > > > > William > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:25 PM Bertrand Delacretaz < > > > bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 2:51 AM William Guo > wrote: > > > > > ...to establish a Project Management > > > > > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > > > > > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to > > > > > the public, related to a data quality solution for big data, > > > > > including both streaming and batch mode. It offers an unified > > > > > process to measure data quality from different perspectives... > > > > > > > > I suggest removing the last phrase, "It offers an unified...", I > think > > > > it's good to avoid being too specific in these descriptions. That > > > > phrase appears twice in the resolution, as usual. > > > > > > > > Apart from that, +1 on graduation! > > > > > > > > -Bertrand > > > > > > > > > >
[Result][VOTE] Release Apache SkyWalking (incubating) version x
Hi all, The vote for releasing Apache SkyWalking 5.0.0-GA (incubating) is closed, now. Vote result: 3 (+1 binding) (Ignasi, Willem, Luke) 0 -1. Thank you everyone for taking the time to review the release and help us. I will process to publish the release and send ANNOUNCE. -- Sheng Wu Apache SkyWalking -- Original -- From: "Luke Han"; Date: Tue, Oct 16, 2018 11:25 PM To: "general"; Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache SkyWalking (incubating) version 5.0.0-GA +1 binding Best Regards! - Luke Han On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 5:29 PM Willem Jiang wrote: > +1. (Binding) > > 1. Checked signed key and sha512 of source and binary package of > 2. Source code build successfully > 3. LICENSE and NOTICE are OK in source code and binary distributions > 4. Apache RAT checked > 5. DISCLAIMER existed > > Willem Jiang > > Twitter: willemjiang > Weibo: willem > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:17 AM Sheng Wu wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > This is a call for vote to release Apache SkyWalking (Incubating) > version 5.0.0-GA > > > > > > The Apache SkyWalking community has tested, voted and approved the > proposed > > release of Apache SkyWalking (Incubating) 5.0.0-GA > > > > > > We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this > > incubator release. > > > > > > SkyWalking: APM (application performance monitor) tool for distributed > systems, > > especially designed for microservices, cloud native and container-based > (Docker, Kubernetes, Mesos) architectures. > > Underlying technology is a distributed tracing system. > > > > > > Vote Thread: > > * > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/020de64d4fff795d6bda04c7e7ec180bff7cb4bd6e06db21fe38bf1e@%3Cdev.skywalking.apache.org%3E > > > > > > Release notes: > > > > > > > > > > * > https://github.com/apache/incubator-skywalking/blob/v5.0.0-GA/CHANGES.md#500-ga > > > > > > > > > > Release Candidate: > > > > > > > > > > * https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/skywalking/5.0.0-GA/ > > * sha512 checksums > > - > b09bf390092f41a745a8c6f46cb891894375c8c13a1c2789dbc57c3d89f63d835058e1e41bdd816be1cbf2aa7461501db97f35952419dcc854203650cbfb676f > apache-skywalking-apm-incubating-5.0.0-GA-src.tgz > > - > 7d3a0f8acd82973dd4d31ef9e4edffe89b33bc538b12735140d2dc9129f1233ec25ac4ef124ad519685adde639acb5f631dac3a59da18c8c9c9d701f46efe8b3 > apache-skywalking-apm-incubating-5.0.0-GA.tar.gz > > - > 39d6d9c28844c447776511aab9fdbb6d015ce8834e295d394d523f9fd2d99ad1ac05697dbf9a99781219e26624a7f30987bc099e8e1a9bf014873d4ccdfadee4 > apache-skywalking-apm-incubating-5.0.0-GA.zip > > > > > > > > > > Maven 2 staging repository: > > > > > > > > > > * > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheskywalking-1022/org/apache/skywalking > > > > > > > > > > Release Tag : > > > > > > > > > > * (GitHub Tag) > https://github.com/apache/incubator-skywalking/tree/v5.0.0-GA > > > > > > > > > > Release CommitID : > > > > > > > > > > * > https://github.com/apache/incubator-skywalking/tree/7070e90809a647c3fc2ede518a70afa755856dcc > > * Git submodule > > * skywalking-ui: > https://github.com/apache/incubator-skywalking-ui/tree/ad3ee45dbadfae35d77238bdd7a1df593158f109 > > * apm-protocol/apm-network/src/main/proto: > https://github.com/apache/incubator-skywalking-data-collect-protocol/tree/c02c12af12116121e25155d1f3fca0fadee5f2e9 > > > > > > > > > > Keys to verify the Release Candidate : > > > > > > > > > > * https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/skywalking/KEYS > corresponding to wush...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > Guide to build the release from source : > > > > > > > > > > * > https://github.com/apache/incubator-skywalking/blob/v5.0.0-GA/docs/en/How-to-build.md#build-from-apache-source-codes > > > > > > Voting will start now (2018/10/10 date) and will remain open for at > least 72 hours, Request IPMC to give their vote. > > [ ] +1 Release this package. > > [ ] +0 No opinion. > > [ ] -1 Do not release this package because > > > > > > > > -- > > Sheng Wu > > Apache SkyWalking > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache SkyWalking (incubating) version 5.0.0-GA
+1 binding Best Regards! - Luke Han On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 5:29 PM Willem Jiang wrote: > +1. (Binding) > > 1. Checked signed key and sha512 of source and binary package of > 2. Source code build successfully > 3. LICENSE and NOTICE are OK in source code and binary distributions > 4. Apache RAT checked > 5. DISCLAIMER existed > > Willem Jiang > > Twitter: willemjiang > Weibo: 姜宁willem > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:17 AM 吴晟 Sheng Wu wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > This is a call for vote to release Apache SkyWalking (Incubating) > version 5.0.0-GA > > > > > > The Apache SkyWalking community has tested, voted and approved the > proposed > > release of Apache SkyWalking (Incubating) 5.0.0-GA > > > > > > We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this > > incubator release. > > > > > > SkyWalking: APM (application performance monitor) tool for distributed > systems, > > especially designed for microservices, cloud native and container-based > (Docker, Kubernetes, Mesos) architectures. > > Underlying technology is a distributed tracing system. > > > > > > Vote Thread: > > * > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/020de64d4fff795d6bda04c7e7ec180bff7cb4bd6e06db21fe38bf1e@%3Cdev.skywalking.apache.org%3E > > > > > > Release notes: > > > > > > > > > > * > https://github.com/apache/incubator-skywalking/blob/v5.0.0-GA/CHANGES.md#500-ga > > > > > > > > > > Release Candidate: > > > > > > > > > > * https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/skywalking/5.0.0-GA/ > > * sha512 checksums > > - > b09bf390092f41a745a8c6f46cb891894375c8c13a1c2789dbc57c3d89f63d835058e1e41bdd816be1cbf2aa7461501db97f35952419dcc854203650cbfb676f > apache-skywalking-apm-incubating-5.0.0-GA-src.tgz > > - > 7d3a0f8acd82973dd4d31ef9e4edffe89b33bc538b12735140d2dc9129f1233ec25ac4ef124ad519685adde639acb5f631dac3a59da18c8c9c9d701f46efe8b3 > apache-skywalking-apm-incubating-5.0.0-GA.tar.gz > > - > 39d6d9c28844c447776511aab9fdbb6d015ce8834e295d394d523f9fd2d99ad1ac05697dbf9a99781219e26624a7f30987bc099e8e1a9bf014873d4ccdfadee4 > apache-skywalking-apm-incubating-5.0.0-GA.zip > > > > > > > > > > Maven 2 staging repository: > > > > > > > > > > * > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheskywalking-1022/org/apache/skywalking > > > > > > > > > > Release Tag : > > > > > > > > > > * (GitHub Tag) > https://github.com/apache/incubator-skywalking/tree/v5.0.0-GA > > > > > > > > > > Release CommitID : > > > > > > > > > > * > https://github.com/apache/incubator-skywalking/tree/7070e90809a647c3fc2ede518a70afa755856dcc > > * Git submodule > > * skywalking-ui: > https://github.com/apache/incubator-skywalking-ui/tree/ad3ee45dbadfae35d77238bdd7a1df593158f109 > > * apm-protocol/apm-network/src/main/proto: > https://github.com/apache/incubator-skywalking-data-collect-protocol/tree/c02c12af12116121e25155d1f3fca0fadee5f2e9 > > > > > > > > > > Keys to verify the Release Candidate : > > > > > > > > > > * https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/skywalking/KEYS > corresponding to wush...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > Guide to build the release from source : > > > > > > > > > > * > https://github.com/apache/incubator-skywalking/blob/v5.0.0-GA/docs/en/How-to-build.md#build-from-apache-source-codes > > > > > > Voting will start now (2018/10/10 date) and will remain open for at > least 72 hours, Request IPMC to give their vote. > > [ ] +1 Release this package. > > [ ] +0 No opinion. > > [ ] -1 Do not release this package because > > > > > > > > -- > > Sheng Wu > > Apache SkyWalking > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: Getting through the hoops (was: Mentors wanted...)
Hi - Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 16, 2018, at 1:25 AM, Serge Huber wrote: > > > Actually I think there is a lot of documentation and in itself it can be a > bit daunting. Also for the committer request, it would be great if it could > be streamlined by doing some kind of online form but there is the question of > the digital signature that might be an issue. > > Also, some of the optional fields such as the Apache ID or the project name > should maybe be explained as less than optional. I’ve had the problem > recently that committers filled the ICLA without the optional fields, and > then the secretary asked for the ID and the project name. So this is putting > additional work on the secretary which could be avoided. > > In other words, it’s not that hard when you know the process, but when you’re > learning it and want to do the right thing by not bothering mentors for > everything, I think it is less straightforward than setting up an account on > Github, which I think is what a lot of people are comparing the experience > too (at least that’s the feedback I get usually). Your Mentors are the ones who need to update the roster in Whimsy. It used to be only the VP Incubator. If a Mentor is not helping drive onboarding then they aren’t engaged. Regards, Dave > > Regards, > Serge… > >> On 16 Oct 2018, at 10:06, Bertrand Delacretaz >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 7:29 PM Benjamin Young >>> wrote: >>> ...I've continued to reach out to other initial committers to get them >>> through the >>> hoops here at Apache--which took a few weeks of setup, >>> reading, etc... >>> Mostly, I think folks find the process daunting. :-/... >> >> I'm curious what's so hard, maybe we aren't explaining things properly? >> >> IMO an initial or elected committer needs to choose an Apache ID, >> register their iCLA, wait for their account to be created, sign up to >> their project's dev (and maybe private) list and they're in business. >> Ok, for now they also need to create accounts on Jira and Confluence >> if the project uses that. >> >> Is this what's considered too hard, or did I miss something? >> >> -Bertrand >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Getting through the hoops
On 10/16/2018 02:43 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 1:27 PM Daniel Gruno wrote: ... https://icla.live/ ... I love it! With a few comments ;-) We should be very clear about which information is required or not, I don't think we really need a phone number for example - it should be clear what's the minimal required information. I don't personally know which fields are required and which are merely optional, so I'm CCing secretary@ on this one. If we could get sojme clarity, I can improve the form a bunch. I'd prefer a form with all fields on the same page, otherwise I'm always wondering how many "next steps" there are ;-) I could, of course say "step N/10" on the various pages for starters :) Just nitpicks really, I think this is a big improvement, thanks Daniel! -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Getting through the hoops
On 16 Oct 2018, at 13:26, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > So, I took a stab at this, Work-In-Progress and what not: > > https://icla.live/ Rather neat. I’d practice data-minimalisation right out of the gate though - as to not burden the ASF with data that becomes a liability. E.g. drop the phone number. Secondly - the first question -I’d be a lot clearer about the option to `hide’ this by providing a public name. Perhaps pre-fill the public name with the full one - or ask the public name -first- and rephrase it - under what name are you publicly known in the ASF community. For some countries - I’d keep the option open to simply print it and sign & scan and email. Dw. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Getting through the hoops
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 1:27 PM Daniel Gruno wrote: > ... > > https://icla.live/ > ... Also, the "Process completed" page should indicate what happens next. "You will get an email when your iCLA is recorded" or something. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Getting through the hoops
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 1:27 PM Daniel Gruno wrote: ... > https://icla.live/ ... I love it! With a few comments ;-) We should be very clear about which information is required or not, I don't think we really need a phone number for example - it should be clear what's the minimal required information. I'd prefer a form with all fields on the same page, otherwise I'm always wondering how many "next steps" there are ;-) Just nitpicks really, I think this is a big improvement, thanks Daniel! -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Getting through the hoops
I should note that this only generates a PDF, it doesn't send it - so test all you like! On 10/16/2018 01:26 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: So, I took a stab at this, Work-In-Progress and what not: https://icla.live/ Feedback is most welcome! With regards, Daniel. On 10/16/2018 10:56 AM, Serge Huber wrote: Indeed that would be really nice, and we could imagine a form that would give people through the process, and also sent expectations in terms of what happens next and how much time it might take. Regards, Serge… On 16 Oct 2018, at 10:33, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:29 AM Daniel Gruno wrote: ...Thinking out loud here...what if we made a form that better explains things and checks if the userid is available etc, and then it generates a PDF to review/sign with all the fields filled out?... That would be fantastic - onboarding instructions that consist of a single persistent URL are a Good Thing! -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Getting through the hoops
So, I took a stab at this, Work-In-Progress and what not: https://icla.live/ Feedback is most welcome! With regards, Daniel. On 10/16/2018 10:56 AM, Serge Huber wrote: Indeed that would be really nice, and we could imagine a form that would give people through the process, and also sent expectations in terms of what happens next and how much time it might take. Regards, Serge… On 16 Oct 2018, at 10:33, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:29 AM Daniel Gruno wrote: ...Thinking out loud here...what if we made a form that better explains things and checks if the userid is available etc, and then it generates a PDF to review/sign with all the fields filled out?... That would be fantastic - onboarding instructions that consist of a single persistent URL are a Good Thing! -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Griffin (incubating) as a TLP
Agree with William's proposal. Best Regards, Jenny On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 5:33 PM Lionel Liu wrote: > As I've commented in dev list, I agree with this proposal. > > Thanks, > Lionel > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:59 PM William Guo wrote: > > > Hi Bertrand, > > > > Thanks for the feedback! We will rephrase this in coming voting phase. > > > > William > > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:25 PM Bertrand Delacretaz < > > bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 2:51 AM William Guo wrote: > > > > ...to establish a Project Management > > > > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > > > > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to > > > > the public, related to a data quality solution for big data, > > > > including both streaming and batch mode. It offers an unified > > > > process to measure data quality from different perspectives... > > > > > > I suggest removing the last phrase, "It offers an unified...", I think > > > it's good to avoid being too specific in these descriptions. That > > > phrase appears twice in the resolution, as usual. > > > > > > Apart from that, +1 on graduation! > > > > > > -Bertrand > > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Griffin (incubating) as a TLP
As I've commented in dev list, I agree with this proposal. Thanks, Lionel On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:59 PM William Guo wrote: > Hi Bertrand, > > Thanks for the feedback! We will rephrase this in coming voting phase. > > William > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:25 PM Bertrand Delacretaz < > bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 2:51 AM William Guo wrote: > > > ...to establish a Project Management > > > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > > > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to > > > the public, related to a data quality solution for big data, > > > including both streaming and batch mode. It offers an unified > > > process to measure data quality from different perspectives... > > > > I suggest removing the last phrase, "It offers an unified...", I think > > it's good to avoid being too specific in these descriptions. That > > phrase appears twice in the resolution, as usual. > > > > Apart from that, +1 on graduation! > > > > -Bertrand > > >
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache SkyWalking (incubating) version 5.0.0-GA
+1. (Binding) 1. Checked signed key and sha512 of source and binary package of 2. Source code build successfully 3. LICENSE and NOTICE are OK in source code and binary distributions 4. Apache RAT checked 5. DISCLAIMER existed Willem Jiang Twitter: willemjiang Weibo: 姜宁willem On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:17 AM 吴晟 Sheng Wu wrote: > > Hi All, > This is a call for vote to release Apache SkyWalking (Incubating) version > 5.0.0-GA > > > The Apache SkyWalking community has tested, voted and approved the proposed > release of Apache SkyWalking (Incubating) 5.0.0-GA > > > We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this > incubator release. > > > SkyWalking: APM (application performance monitor) tool for distributed > systems, > especially designed for microservices, cloud native and container-based > (Docker, Kubernetes, Mesos) architectures. > Underlying technology is a distributed tracing system. > > > Vote Thread: > * > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/020de64d4fff795d6bda04c7e7ec180bff7cb4bd6e06db21fe38bf1e@%3Cdev.skywalking.apache.org%3E > > > Release notes: > > > > > * > https://github.com/apache/incubator-skywalking/blob/v5.0.0-GA/CHANGES.md#500-ga > > > > > Release Candidate: > > > > > * https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/skywalking/5.0.0-GA/ > * sha512 checksums > - > b09bf390092f41a745a8c6f46cb891894375c8c13a1c2789dbc57c3d89f63d835058e1e41bdd816be1cbf2aa7461501db97f35952419dcc854203650cbfb676f > apache-skywalking-apm-incubating-5.0.0-GA-src.tgz > - > 7d3a0f8acd82973dd4d31ef9e4edffe89b33bc538b12735140d2dc9129f1233ec25ac4ef124ad519685adde639acb5f631dac3a59da18c8c9c9d701f46efe8b3 > apache-skywalking-apm-incubating-5.0.0-GA.tar.gz > - > 39d6d9c28844c447776511aab9fdbb6d015ce8834e295d394d523f9fd2d99ad1ac05697dbf9a99781219e26624a7f30987bc099e8e1a9bf014873d4ccdfadee4 > apache-skywalking-apm-incubating-5.0.0-GA.zip > > > > > Maven 2 staging repository: > > > > > * > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheskywalking-1022/org/apache/skywalking > > > > > Release Tag : > > > > > * (GitHub Tag) https://github.com/apache/incubator-skywalking/tree/v5.0.0-GA > > > > > Release CommitID : > > > > > * > https://github.com/apache/incubator-skywalking/tree/7070e90809a647c3fc2ede518a70afa755856dcc > * Git submodule > * skywalking-ui: > https://github.com/apache/incubator-skywalking-ui/tree/ad3ee45dbadfae35d77238bdd7a1df593158f109 > * apm-protocol/apm-network/src/main/proto: > https://github.com/apache/incubator-skywalking-data-collect-protocol/tree/c02c12af12116121e25155d1f3fca0fadee5f2e9 > > > > > Keys to verify the Release Candidate : > > > > > * https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/skywalking/KEYS > corresponding to wush...@apache.org > > > > > Guide to build the release from source : > > > > > * > https://github.com/apache/incubator-skywalking/blob/v5.0.0-GA/docs/en/How-to-build.md#build-from-apache-source-codes > > > Voting will start now (2018/10/10 date) and will remain open for at least 72 > hours, Request IPMC to give their vote. > [ ] +1 Release this package. > [ ] +0 No opinion. > [ ] -1 Do not release this package because > > > > -- > Sheng Wu > Apache SkyWalking - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Griffin (incubating) as a TLP
Hi Bertrand, Thanks for the feedback! We will rephrase this in coming voting phase. William On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:25 PM Bertrand Delacretaz < bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 2:51 AM William Guo wrote: > > ...to establish a Project Management > > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to > > the public, related to a data quality solution for big data, > > including both streaming and batch mode. It offers an unified > > process to measure data quality from different perspectives... > > I suggest removing the last phrase, "It offers an unified...", I think > it's good to avoid being too specific in these descriptions. That > phrase appears twice in the resolution, as usual. > > Apart from that, +1 on graduation! > > -Bertrand >
Re: Getting through the hoops
Indeed that would be really nice, and we could imagine a form that would give people through the process, and also sent expectations in terms of what happens next and how much time it might take. Regards, Serge… > On 16 Oct 2018, at 10:33, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:29 AM Daniel Gruno wrote: >> ...Thinking out loud here...what if we made a form that better explains >> things and checks if the userid is available etc, and then it generates >> a PDF to review/sign with all the fields filled out?... > > That would be fantastic - onboarding instructions that consist of a > single persistent URL are a Good Thing! > > -Bertrand > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Getting through the hoops
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:29 AM Daniel Gruno wrote: > ...Thinking out loud here...what if we made a form that better explains > things and checks if the userid is available etc, and then it generates > a PDF to review/sign with all the fields filled out?... That would be fantastic - onboarding instructions that consist of a single persistent URL are a Good Thing! -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Getting through the hoops
On 10/16/2018 10:25 AM, Serge Huber wrote: Actually I think there is a lot of documentation and in itself it can be a bit daunting. Also for the committer request, it would be great if it could be streamlined by doing some kind of online form but there is the question of the digital signature that might be an issue. Thinking out loud here...what if we made a form that better explains things and checks if the userid is available etc, and then it generates a PDF to review/sign with all the fields filled out? Also, some of the optional fields such as the Apache ID or the project name should maybe be explained as less than optional. I’ve had the problem recently that committers filled the ICLA without the optional fields, and then the secretary asked for the ID and the project name. So this is putting additional work on the secretary which could be avoided. In other words, it’s not that hard when you know the process, but when you’re learning it and want to do the right thing by not bothering mentors for everything, I think it is less straightforward than setting up an account on Github, which I think is what a lot of people are comparing the experience too (at least that’s the feedback I get usually). Regards, Serge… On 16 Oct 2018, at 10:06, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi, On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 7:29 PM Benjamin Young wrote: ...I've continued to reach out to other initial committers to get them through the hoops here at Apache--which took a few weeks of setup, reading, etc... Mostly, I think folks find the process daunting. :-/... I'm curious what's so hard, maybe we aren't explaining things properly? IMO an initial or elected committer needs to choose an Apache ID, register their iCLA, wait for their account to be created, sign up to their project's dev (and maybe private) list and they're in business. Ok, for now they also need to create accounts on Jira and Confluence if the project uses that. Is this what's considered too hard, or did I miss something? -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Griffin (incubating) as a TLP
Hi, On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 2:51 AM William Guo wrote: > ...to establish a Project Management > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to > the public, related to a data quality solution for big data, > including both streaming and batch mode. It offers an unified > process to measure data quality from different perspectives... I suggest removing the last phrase, "It offers an unified...", I think it's good to avoid being too specific in these descriptions. That phrase appears twice in the resolution, as usual. Apart from that, +1 on graduation! -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Getting through the hoops (was: Mentors wanted...)
Actually I think there is a lot of documentation and in itself it can be a bit daunting. Also for the committer request, it would be great if it could be streamlined by doing some kind of online form but there is the question of the digital signature that might be an issue. Also, some of the optional fields such as the Apache ID or the project name should maybe be explained as less than optional. I’ve had the problem recently that committers filled the ICLA without the optional fields, and then the secretary asked for the ID and the project name. So this is putting additional work on the secretary which could be avoided. In other words, it’s not that hard when you know the process, but when you’re learning it and want to do the right thing by not bothering mentors for everything, I think it is less straightforward than setting up an account on Github, which I think is what a lot of people are comparing the experience too (at least that’s the feedback I get usually). Regards, Serge… > On 16 Oct 2018, at 10:06, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > Hi, > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 7:29 PM Benjamin Young wrote: >> ...I've continued to reach out to other initial committers to get them >> through the >> hoops here at Apache--which took a few weeks of setup, >> reading, etc... >> Mostly, I think folks find the process daunting. :-/... > > I'm curious what's so hard, maybe we aren't explaining things properly? > > IMO an initial or elected committer needs to choose an Apache ID, > register their iCLA, wait for their account to be created, sign up to > their project's dev (and maybe private) list and they're in business. > Ok, for now they also need to create accounts on Jira and Confluence > if the project uses that. > > Is this what's considered too hard, or did I miss something? > > -Bertrand > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Getting through the hoops (was: Mentors wanted...)
Hi, On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 7:29 PM Benjamin Young wrote: > ...I've continued to reach out to other initial committers to get them > through the > hoops here at Apache--which took a few weeks of setup, reading, > etc... > Mostly, I think folks find the process daunting. :-/... I'm curious what's so hard, maybe we aren't explaining things properly? IMO an initial or elected committer needs to choose an Apache ID, register their iCLA, wait for their account to be created, sign up to their project's dev (and maybe private) list and they're in business. Ok, for now they also need to create accounts on Jira and Confluence if the project uses that. Is this what's considered too hard, or did I miss something? -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
