Re: IP Clearance Process for Incubating projects

[Matt Sicker]

Don’t forget to file the forms with the secretary.

On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 04:53, York Shen  wrote:

> > Just to be clear the ICLAs need to be be from all the contributors, not
> just one person.
>
> Understood, that’s why I use plural form of ICLAs.
>
> I shall collected ICLAs/SGAs and send them to the mailing list by the end
> of this weekend if everything is fine. But I’m confused about what I shall
> do next to transfer those Git repo to ASF, maybe creating a JIRA issue to
> INFRA?
>
> Best Regards,
> York Shen
>
> 申远
>
> > 在 2019年9月2日，17:43，Justin Mclean  写道：
> >
> > Just to be clear the ICLAs need to be be from all the contributors, not
> just one person.
>
> --
Matt Sicker 

Re: IP Clearance Process for Incubating projects

[York Shen]

> Just to be clear the ICLAs need to be be from all the contributors, not just 
> one person.

Understood, that’s why I use plural form of ICLAs.

I shall collected ICLAs/SGAs and send them to the mailing list by the end of 
this weekend if everything is fine. But I’m confused about what I shall do next 
to transfer those Git repo to ASF, maybe creating a JIRA issue to INFRA?

Best Regards,
York Shen

申远

> 在 2019年9月2日，17:43，Justin Mclean  写道：
> 
> Just to be clear the ICLAs need to be be from all the contributors, not just 
> one person.

Re: IP Clearance Process for Incubating projects

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> I think I shall get the ICLAs/SGA signed by the code owner and send the 
> result to d...@weex.apache.org  , then I am 
> confused about what to do next. 

Just to be clear the ICLAs need to be be from all the contributors, not just 
one person.

> I have also read the mentor-guide[2] ,

This is a new documenting and incomplete and draft, I’ve been trying to get 
existing experienced mentors to contribute to it, so we can help other mentors 
and podlings in what to do in situations like this.

Thanks,
Justin
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Re: IP Clearance Process for Incubating projects

[York Shen]

This is not done yet.

The code owner of a third-party tool [1] is willing to give the donation to 
ASF, and I’m happy to receive the donation.

I think I shall get the ICLAs/SGA signed by the code owner and send the result 
to d...@weex.apache.org  , then I am confused 
about what to do next. 

I have also read the mentor-guide[2] , and the section about "Having trouble 
getting software transferred to ASF."  is blank now. A brief introduction about 
how to continue the donation is really appreciated, and I am happy to fill out 
the donation section in mentor-guide after donation is done if my experience is 
needed.

[1] https://github.com/weexteam/weex-loader 

[2] 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/Mentor+FAQ#suggested-action
 


Best Regards,
York Shen

申远

> 在 2019年9月2日，17:17，Justin Mclean  写道：
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> Suppose ICLAs / SGAs is already signed and send to a proper mailing list 
>> (d...@weex.apache.org ), what should I do next ?
> 
> IMO If that already been done, I don’t see any harm in using the standard 
> process, if that’s the easy path. What's important is that the code have 
> clear IP provenance and the project has permission to use it and it’s 
> licensed under an ALv2 compatible license. Perhaps if we had more information 
> we could provide better guidance?
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
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Re: [Discuss] Graduate Apache SINGA (incubating) as a TLP

[justin]

Hi,

> All looks good to me, and I checked a lot :-) 

Well, tone clearer, except the software grant issue that is.

Thanks,
Justin

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Re: [Discuss] Graduate Apache SINGA (incubating) as a TLP

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

All looks good to me, and I checked a lot :-) 

It’s nice to see a project who brand is well respected as an Apache project, 
that has grown it community and understands how to make releases.

A couple of questions:
- Can you give me an idea of the diversity (company wise) of the proposed PMC. 
(There is I think a small risk here.)
- You might want to change the README here [1], to discourage use of the docker 
nightly by users, but use the last released version instead.

Thanks,
Justin

1. 
https://github.com/apache/incubator-singa/blob/master/doc/en/docs/installation.md
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Re: IP Clearance Process for Incubating projects

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> Suppose ICLAs / SGAs is already signed and send to a proper mailing list 
> (d...@weex.apache.org ), what should I do next ?

IMO If that already been done, I don’t see any harm in using the standard 
process, if that’s the easy path. What's important is that the code have clear 
IP provenance and the project has permission to use it and it’s licensed under 
an ALv2 compatible license. Perhaps if we had more information we could provide 
better guidance?

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Re: IP Clearance Process for Incubating projects

[York Shen]

Thanks for your quick reply. I’m still a little confused about what I should do 
next.

Suppose ICLAs / SGAs is already signed and send to a proper mailing list 
(d...@weex.apache.org ), what should I do next ?  
Is there any documentation for make a donation to a project still in Incubator? 

Best Regards,
York Shen

申远

> 在 2019年9月2日，16:20，Justin Mclean  写道：
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> IMO there’s no need to go through the standard IP process but you still need 
> to check the IP of the donation very carefully and make sure that you ICLA 
> for all people who worked on it and/or a SGA if needed (depending on who owns 
> the code’s copyright). It best if this is recorded on the mailing list or 
> somewhere as it can be checked if needed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
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Re: IP Clearance Process for Incubating projects

[Justin Mclean]

Hi, 

IMO there’s no need to go through the standard IP process but you still need to 
check the IP of the donation very carefully and make sure that you ICLA for all 
people who worked on it and/or a SGA if needed (depending on who owns the 
code’s copyright). It best if this is recorded on the mailing list or somewhere 
as it can be checked if needed.

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IP Clearance Process for Incubating projects

[York Shen]

Hi, community.

As a PPMC member of Apache Weex, I found some useful tools developed outside 
ASF code repo, and I’d like to make those tools donated to Weex PPMC.

Is there any necessary to go through the standard IP clearance process 
considering the fact that Weex is currently in Apache Incubator? We found 
projects still in incubating might not need to do that[1]. 

If that’s true, then how shall we continue donation process without the IP 
clearance process?

[1] 
https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201906.mbox/%3C1721C66C-7C49-4EED-B036-9DBDB04539BA%40gmail.com%3E
 


Best Regards,
York Shen

申远

Re: [Discuss] Graduate Apache SINGA (incubating) as a TLP

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> The PPMC reached a conclusion on the discussion [1] that there is no need
> for SGA.

The link referred to doesn't give a reason why one is not required. Why was it 
decided that it wasn’t needed? Even if it not required (which I’m not 100% sure 
that is the case), would it be difficult to get one? If so why is that?

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Justin
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Re: [Discuss] Graduate Apache SINGA (incubating) as a TLP

[Moaz Reyad]

The PPMC reached a conclusion on the discussion [1] that there is no need
for SGA.

Please let me know if there is anything else required. Otherwise, we start
the vote.

Thank you,
Moaz

[1]
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b8b2979a870784ce04f87572e0f44311a1338bc9365e955a80d5248b@1427941853@%3Cprivate.singa.apache.org%3E

On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 5:00 AM Dave Fisher  wrote:

> Hi -
>
> I see the discussion that an SGA is not needed about 4/2/2015. [1]
>
> I don’t necessarily see the there was a conclusion to that discussion on
> private@singa. I certainly don’t see anything related to Singapore in the
> grants index in the foundation records. There are plenty of other sgas
> recorded from universities.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> [1]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b8b2979a870784ce04f87572e0f44311a1338bc9365e955a80d5248b@1427941853@%3Cprivate.singa.apache.org%3E
>
> > On Aug 31, 2019, at 7:35 PM, Alan Gates  wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I saw that, but I can't find those papers.  They should have been
> > filed by the Apache secretary on the page I referenced.  Either they were
> > properly transferred and we need to find them so that they are properly
> > posted in case anyone ever needs them, or, if they weren't sent, then we
> > need to make sure a copy of them is sent.
> >
> > I guess the next step is to email the secretary and ask if he's aware of
> > that transfer having taken place, unless anyone knows somewhere else I
> > should be looking for them.
> >
> > Alan.
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 3:48 AM Moaz Reyad  wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Alan,
> >>
> >> The copyright section in the project page [1] has the following item :
> >>
> >> Date: 2015-03-31
> >> Item: Check and make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the
> ASF
> >> been received. It is only necessary to transfer rights for the package,
> the
> >> core code, and any new code produced by the project.
> >>
> >> I believe this answers your question about the transfer rights of the
> code.
> >> Please let me know if there is anything else required.
> >>
> >> We will proceed to vote if no one objects.
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Moaz
> >>
> >> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/singa.html
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 8:48 PM Alan Gates 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sorry, I brought this up earlier on the dev list but didn't follow
> up.  I
> >>> can't find a copy of the code grant for the code that Singa brought
> into
> >>> the Incubator.  When I look at the Secretary's page[1] that lists all
> of
> >>> the code grants I don't see one for Singa.  Per the initial proposal[2]
> >>> there was code imported from an existing github repo [3], which means
> we
> >>> need to have a code grant from whom ever owned that code (National
> >>> University of Singapore would be my guess).
> >>>
> >>> We need to clear this up before Singa graduates to assure that the ASF
> >> has
> >>> the right to this code.
> >>>
> >>> Alan.
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
> >>> [2]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/SingaProposal
> >>> [3] https://github.com/nusinga/singa
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 1:34 AM Moaz Reyad  wrote:
> >>>
>  Hi all,
> 
>  In the four and a half years that Apache SINGA (incubating) has
>  been a part of the Apache incubator, the community has grown,
> >>> diversified,
>  and adapted to the Apache Way. We believe that the project is ready to
>  graduate to a TLP.
> 
>  As a community, we have discussed [1] and voted [2] to graduate to a
>  TLP, we have worked through the maturity model [3], notified the IPMC
> >>> that
>  we have the intention to graduate [4] and proposed PMC chair [5].
> 
>  Please see the draft resolution appended below and provide any
>  comments or feedback you have on it.
> 
>  We would like to continue the graduation process and hereby ask you
>  all for your opinion on this. The discussion is open for 72 hours,
> >> after
>  which we will start a [VOTE] on graduation here.
> 
>  Thanks,
> 
>  --moaz
>  on behalf of the Apache SINGA PPMC
> 
>  [1]
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fd2fe639f3314ff22d2e47d39bd6d4126d61d10e8628fa26f71ef01d@%3Cdev.singa.apache.org%3E
>  [2]
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/cb40b73b3fd685b44a129601abd5967e4150db245b3fc6552f106faf@%3Cdev.singa.apache.org%3E
>  [3]
> 
> >>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SINGA/Maturity+model+assessment
>  [4]
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5b5ebefe705084e0a9d67cfaf56f17ff27518273366f8088be19273e@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>  [5]
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2903ea94da1b862acf8d706dd4f7cd9ecbc434166d4381d170be731f@%3Cprivate.singa.apache.org%3E
> 
>  Proposed Resolution for the Apache SINGA project for the ASF Board:
>