Re: [VOTE] Accept Provisionr into the Apache Incubator

2013-03-02 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
+1 non-binding

Cheers,
Andreas
---

Andrei Savu:
 Hi Guys,
 
 I'd like to call a VOTE for acceptance of Provisionr into the Apache
 Incubator.
 
 The vote will close on March 8.
 
 [] +1 Accept Provisionr into the Apache incubator
 [] +0 Don't care.
 [] -1 Don't accept Provisionr into the incubator because...
 
 Full proposal is pasted at the bottom on this email, and the corresponding
 wiki is http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ProvisionrProposal
 
 Only VOTEs from Incubator PMC members are binding, but all are welcome to
 express their thoughts.
 
 Thanks,
 Andrei Savu
 
 --
 Provisionr Proposal
 
 == Abstract ==
 
 Provisionr is an effort to develop a service that can be used to create and
 manage pools of virtual machines on multiple clouds. Our focus is on
 semi-automated workflows and cloud portability.
 
 == Proposal ==
 
 Provisionr solves the problem of cloud portability by hiding completely the
 APIs and only focusing on building a cluster that matches the same set of
 assumptions on all clouds, assumptions like: running a specific operating
 system (e.g. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS), having the same set of pre-installed
 packages and binaries, sane dns settings (forward  reverse ip resolution -
 as needed for Hadoop), ntp settings, networking settings, firewall, ssh
 admin access, vpn access etc.
 
 As a secondary goal Provisionr should also provide primitives for building
 automatic or semi-automatic workflows for configuring services, workflows
 that assume that all the machines share a common set of characteristics as
 described above.
 
 == Background ==
 
 Creating clusters on cloud infrastructure is non-trivial because careful
 orchestration is required. To make it easy to deploy services we need to
 start from a foundation that matches a common set of assumptions on
 multiple providers.
 
 == Rationale ==
 
 This project started as a re-write of the core of Apache Whirr but has a
 different target being more focused on semi-automated workflows and cloud
 portability.
 
 == Initial Goals ==
 
  * Build a community
  * Provide an excellent user experience for semi-automatic workflows (e.g.
 using Rundeck)
  * Implement a REST service and a Web Console
  * Add support for more providers
 
 == Current Status ==
 
 Provisionr had four releases on [[
 https://github.com/axemblr/axemblr-provisionr/wiki|GitHub]] and it's used
 to deploy Hadoop clusters on-demand at Axemblr and infrastructure for
 testing / QA.
 
 === Meritocracy ===
 
 We plan to invest in supporting a meritocracy. We will discuss the
 requirements in an open forum. Several companies have already expressed
 interest in this project, and we intend to invite additional developers to
 participate. We will encourage and monitor community participation so that
 privileges can be extended to those that contribute.
 
 === Community ===
 
 The community interested in cloud service infrastructure is currently
 spread across many smaller projects, and one of the main goals of this
 project is to build a vibrant community to share best practices and build
 common infrastructure.
 
 === Core developers ===
 
 Core developers are very experienced in the Apache ecosystem. To achieve
 more diversity of developers, we will be eager to recruit developers from
 diverse companies.
 
  * Andrei Savu - asavu at apache dot org  (Apache Whirr PMC)
  * Ioan Eugen Stan - ieugen at apache dot org (Apache James PMC)
  * Alex Ciminian -  alex.ciminian at gmail dot org
 
 === Alignment ===
 
 Provisionr complements Apache Whirr and later on it should provide a robust
 foundation for more advanced functionalities.
 
 == Known Risks ==
 
 === Orphaned products ===
 
 The contributors have significant open source experience and the project is
 being used as part of a commercial product, so the risk of being orphaned
 is relatively low. We plan to mitigate this risk by recruiting additional
 committers.
 
 === Inexperience with Open Source ===
 
 Most of the initial committers have experience working on open source
 projects. Andrei Savu and Ioan Eugen Stan have experience as committers and
 PMC members on other Apache projects.
 
 === Homogenous Developers ===
 
 We are committed to recruiting additional committers from other companies
 based on their contributions to the project.
 
 === Reliance on Salaried Developers ===
 
 It is expected that Provisionr development will occur on both salaried time
 and on volunteer time, after hours. The majority of initial committers are
 paid by their employer to contribute to this project. However, they are all
 passionate about the project, and we are confident that the project will
 continue even if no salaried developers contribute to the project. We are
 committed to recruiting additional committers including non-salaried
 developers.
 
 === Relationships with Other Apache Products ===
 
 Provisionr is closely integrated with CloudStack, Karaf, CXF, BigTop in a
 numerous ways. We look forward to collaborating with those 

Re: [VOTE] - Apache Clerezza Graduation Resolution

2013-01-30 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
+1 (non-binding)

Cheers,
Andreas
---

Tommaso Teofili:
...

 Here's the resolution updated as per Suresh's suggestion.
 
 X. Establish the Apache Clerezza Project
 
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
the public, related to an OSGi-based modular application and
set of components for building RESTFul Semantic Web applications
and services.
 
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Clerezza Project,
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that the Apache Clerezza Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to an OSGi-based modular application and set of
components for building RESTFul Semantic Web applications and
 services;
and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Clerezza be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache Clerezza Project, and to have primary responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache Clerezza Project; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache Clerezza Project:
 
  * Reto Bachmann-Gmuer r...@apache.org
  * Tsuyoshi Ito i...@apache.org
  * Hasan Hasan   ha...@apache.org
  * Tommaso Teofili tomm...@apache.org
  * Bertrand Delacretaz   bdelacre...@apache.org
  * Florent André   flor...@apache.org
  * Rupert Westenthaler rwes...@apache.org
  * Daniel Spicar  dspi...@apache.org
 
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Hasan Hasan
be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Clerezza, to
serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Clerezza PMC be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
encourage open development and increased participation in the
Apache Clerezza Project; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that the Apache Clerezza Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator Clerezza podling; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator Clerezza podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.
 
 Regards,
 Tommaso
 
 p.s.:
 keep voting :-)
 

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Apache Stanbol Re: DOAP

2013-01-02 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Recently there had been a brief discussion on the Apache Stanbol mailing
list about processing DOAP with Stanbol for something.

Suggestions are welcome.

Cheers,
Andreas
---

Shane Curcuru:
 DOAP files are required for all TLPs, per the Branding policy:
 
   http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs
 
 DOAP files are used to autogenerate the projects listing site:
 
   http://projects.apache.org/indexes.html
 
 DOAP files are the best way we have currently to ensure we have a
 single, simple and machine-parseable list of all software projects
 available at the ASF.  We currently under-utilize this: it would be nice
 if projects had more detailed DOAPs that we could entice people to
 create interesting visualizations of all Apache projects.  It should
 also be linked to more, so that newcomers to the ASF have an easier way
 to find all the different software technologies that Apache projects
 have to offer to the world.
 
 From the brand perspective, DOAPs are required so the ASF can track all
 formal TLP projects and major software products that our projects ship
 (among other reasons, so we can one day auto-generate our list of
 trademarks).  DOAPs should also have sufficient information about
 software downloads available so that if someone does write a crawler to
 inspect software products, they'll get useful information.
 
 It would be nice if projects kept DOAPs up to date with all new
 releases, etc., but I personally don't have the effort available in the
 near future to push on that area.  What's more important is ensuring all
 TLPs have at least a basic DOAP that's checked in and reflected at
 projects.a.o
 
 We really need to explain this more clearly in the incubator docs, and
 make it clear that having a DOAP checked in is part of the branding
 checklist that is required to complete before graduation.  I.e., we
 should ensure that podlings meet the Project Branding Requirements
 before they go to graduate.
 
 - Shane
 
 
 On 1/2/2013 5:08 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
 Hi,

 Onami is not listed below, but we have a Doap file (which needs some
 maintenance :-)
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/onami/committers/doap_Onami.rdf

 Three questions, because I am not so familiar with Doap files.

 1) do we have to add them manually to:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/projects/files.xml


 2) On onami we maintain several independent components. Should we
 maintain different doap files (one for each component), like it seems
 to be done by Commons?

 3) Should the doap file become part of the release?

 thanks!
 Christian


 On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 1:09 AM, Benson Margulies
 bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi there.

 In the process of cleaning up photark, I noticed that very few
 incubating projects have DOAP files.

 That is, I looked at
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/projects/files.xml.


 If that page is stale and DOAP-i-ness happens elsewhere, someone
 please fill me in and excuse this noise.

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Marmotta into the incubator

2012-11-30 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
+1 non-binding

Andy Seaborne:
 Hi there,
 
 Following the discussion thread, here is the formal vote on the Marmotta
 proposal:
 
 Please cast your votes on whether to accept the Apache Marmotta proposal:
 
 [ ] +1 Accept Marmotta into the Apache Incubator
 [ ] +0 Indifferent to the acceptance of Marmotta
 [ ] -1 Do not accept the Marmotta proposal because ...
 
 The vote will be open until at least 23:59 Sunday 2nd December UTC
 (which is three full days from midnight tonight)
 
 Andy
 
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MarmottaProposal
 
 ---
 
 == Abstract
 
 Marmotta is a Linked Data platform for industry-strength installations.
 
 == Proposal
 
 The goal of Apache Marmotta is to provide an open implementation of a
 Linked Data Platform that can be used, extended, and deployed easily by
 organizations who want to publish Linked Data or build custom
 applications on Linked Data.
 
 The phrase Linked Data is used here idiosyncratically to refer to a
 data integration paradigm across the Web. The term was coined by Tim
 Berners-Lee in 2006, and it is based on four very simple principles
 which basically describe recommended best practices for exposing,
 sharing, and connecting pieces of data, information, and knowledge on
 the Semantic Web using URIs and the RDF technology stack. Therefore
 Linked Data is about using the Web to connect related data that wasn't
 previously linked, or using the Web to lower the barriers to linking
 data currently linked using other methods.
 
 Marmotta will follow the core recommendations of the W3C on RDF, SPARQL
 and Linked Data publishing, particularly the emerging Linked Data
 Platform (LDP) recommendation. It will also offer extensions for
 frequently needed additional functionalities like Linked Data Querying,
 WebID, WebACL, Reasoning, and Versioning. Marmotta aims to cover both,
 Linked Open Data, as well as Enterprise Linked Data scenarios, providing
 facilities to deal with different data sources and requirements (small
 data/big data, open access/restricted access, etc).
 
 == Background
 
 The Semantic Web isn't just about putting data on the web. It is about
 making links, so that a person or machine can explore the web of data.
 Moreover, the Web has quickly evolved to a Read-Write paradigm, and
 Linked Data technologies too. And Marmotta will address this challenge
 and offer a common infrastructure for organizations working in this area.
 
 Marmotta comes as a continuation of the work in the Linked Media
 Framework (aka LMF) project. LMF is an easy-to-setup server application
 that bundles central Semantic Web technologies to offer some advanced
 services. The Linked Media Framework consists of LMF Core which provides
 a Read-Write Linked Data server, plus some modules that complement the
 server with other added added capabilities, such as, SPARQL 1.1, LDPath,
 LDCache, Reasoning, Versioning, etc. Besides, LMF also provides a Client
 Library, currently available in Java, PHP, and Javascript, as a
 convenient API abstraction around the LMF web services. Currently LMF
 integrates with other relevant tools (Apache Stanbol, Google Refine or
 Drupal) to cover a wider range of use cases and needs.
 
 == Rationale
 
 Linked Data technologies are now at a turning point from mostly research
 projects to industrial applications, and a lot of standardisation is
 currently in progress. Industrial applications require a reliable and
 scalable infrastructure that follows and helps defining a standard way
 of publishing and consuming Linked Data on the Web. The proposers have a
 strong background in building such applications and have invested
 considerable effort in the last years to building up an initial version
 of such a platform (the “Linked Media Framework” or “LMF”). Starting
 from this solid base, we strongly believe that Apache is the right
 environment to open the development of this project to a wider scope.
 
 Marmotta has the potential of being a reference implementation and
 Apache provides a better environment for a collaborative development
 effort. With its well-established governance model based on meritocracy
 and handling IP/legal issues, people from different organizations can
 more easily contribute to the project. This will help unify the efforts
 of people implementing the Linked Data Platform specification and other
 Semantic Web standards. In addition, it would considerably help
 organizations in adopting Linked Data technologies and would provide a
 solid base for further research activities in the community.
 
 == Initial Goals
 
 * Foster the use of Semantic Web Technologies in industry
 
 * Provide an open source and community-driven implementation of a Linked
 Data Platform and related Semantic Web standards, LDP 1.0 Draft and
 SPARQL 1.1 mainly
 
 * Move the existing LMF source from the current Google Code page to the
 Apache infrastructure
 
 * Remove LMF extensions that are not relevant for a core Linked Data
 

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Linda

2012-11-17 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
+1 (non-binding)

as a first comment.

Cheers,
Andreas

Sebastian Schaffert:
 Dear all,
 
 we would like to propose a new project called Apache Linda as a
 Linked Data Platform implementation to the incubator. Andy Seaborne
 was so kind as to volunteer as a champion for the project. The
 proposal is available at
 
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/LindaProposal
 
 The goal of Apache Linda is to provide an open implementation of a
 Linked Data Platform that can be used, extended, and deployed
 easily by organizations who want to publish Linked Data or build
 custom applications on Linked Data. Linda will follow the core
 recommendations of the W3C on RDF, SPARQL and Linked Data
 publishing, particularly the emerging Linked Data Platform (LDP)
 recommendation. It will also offer extensions for frequently needed
 additional functionalities like Linked Data Querying, WebID,
 WebACL, Reasoning, and Versioning. Linda aims to cover both, Linked
 Open Data, as well as Enterprise Linked Data scenarios, providing
 facilities to deal with different data sources and requirements
 (small data/big data, open access/restricted access, etc).
 
 We are looking forward to your feedback and suggestions on how to
 improve the proposal and idea!
 
 
 Sergio, Thomas, Jakob and Sebastian

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Re: [VOTE] Stanbol to graduate from the incubator

2012-09-09 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
+1 (non-binding)

This vote started on 2012-09-05. How long will it be open? Normal time
seems to be 72 hours.

Cheers,
Andreas
---

Fabian Christ:
 Hi,
 
 the Stanbol podling has discussed [1] that we are ready for
 graduation. The project has created two releases during incubation and
 created an active community around the topic of semantic content
 management. The PPMC internal vote for a resolution to establish the
 project got positive feedback [2].
 
 We are now asking the IPMC to vote on the resolution to establish
 Stanbol and to recommend the resolution to the board. The resolution
 to vote on is also available online [3].
 
 [1] http://markmail.org/thread/6shesliws7naqgit
 [2] http://markmail.org/thread/ml3pfnz3ttmmpe5g
 [3] http://incubator.apache.org/stanbol/graduation-resolution.html
 
 ===
 
 X. Establish the Apache Stanbol Project
 
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software related to a set of reusable components
for semantic content management for distribution
at no charge to the public.
 
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Stanbol Project,
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that the Apache Stanbol Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to a set of reusable components for semantic
content management; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Stanbol be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache Stanbol Project, and to have primary responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache Stanbol Project; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache Stanbol Project:
 
  * Alessandro Adamoualex...@apache.org
  * Andrea Nuzzolese anuzzol...@apache.org
  * Andreas Gruber   agru...@apache.org
  * Andreas Kuckartz a...@apache.org
  * Benjamin Nagel   bna...@apache.org
  * Bertrand Delacretaz  bdelacre...@apache.org
  * Cihan Cimen  ci...@apache.org
  * Concetto Bonafedeconcel...@apache.org
  * Enrico Daga  enrid...@apache.org
  * Fabian Christfchr...@apache.org
  * Florent Andréflor...@apache.org
  * Olivier Grisel   ogri...@apache.org
  * Ozgur Kilic  oz...@apache.org
  * Reto Bachmann-Gmür   r...@apache.org
  * Rupert Westenthaler  rup...@apache.org
  * Suat Gonul   s...@apache.org
  * Szaby Grünwald   sza...@apache.org
  * Tommaso Teofili  tomm...@apache.org
  * Valentina Presutti   v...@apache.org
  * Walter Kasperwkas...@apache.org
 
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Fabian Christ
be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Stanbol, to
serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Stanbol PMC be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
encourage open development and increased participation in the
Apache Stanbol Project; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that the Apache Stanbol Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator Stanbol podling; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator Stanbol podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.
 
 

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Re: [VOTE] Stanbol to graduate from the incubator

2012-09-05 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
+1 (non-binding)

Fabian Christ:
 Hi,
 
 the Stanbol podling has discussed [1] that we are ready for
 graduation. The project has created two releases during incubation and
 created an active community around the topic of semantic content
 management. The PPMC internal vote for a resolution to establish the
 project got positive feedback [2].
 
 We are now asking the IPMC to vote on the resolution to establish
 Stanbol and to recommend the resolution to the board. The resolution
 to vote on is also available online [3].
 
 [1] http://markmail.org/thread/6shesliws7naqgit
 [2] http://markmail.org/thread/ml3pfnz3ttmmpe5g
 [3] http://incubator.apache.org/stanbol/graduation-resolution.html
 
 ===
 
 X. Establish the Apache Stanbol Project
 
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software related to a set of reusable components
for semantic content management for distribution
at no charge to the public.
 
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Stanbol Project,
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that the Apache Stanbol Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to a set of reusable components for semantic
content management; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Stanbol be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache Stanbol Project, and to have primary responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache Stanbol Project; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache Stanbol Project:
 
  * Alessandro Adamoualex...@apache.org
  * Andrea Nuzzolese anuzzol...@apache.org
  * Andreas Gruber   agru...@apache.org
  * Andreas Kuckartz a...@apache.org
  * Benjamin Nagel   bna...@apache.org
  * Bertrand Delacretaz  bdelacre...@apache.org
  * Cihan Cimen  ci...@apache.org
  * Concetto Bonafedeconcel...@apache.org
  * Enrico Daga  enrid...@apache.org
  * Fabian Christfchr...@apache.org
  * Florent Andréflor...@apache.org
  * Olivier Grisel   ogri...@apache.org
  * Ozgur Kilic  oz...@apache.org
  * Reto Bachmann-Gmür   r...@apache.org
  * Rupert Westenthaler  rup...@apache.org
  * Suat Gonul   s...@apache.org
  * Szaby Grünwald   sza...@apache.org
  * Tommaso Teofili  tomm...@apache.org
  * Valentina Presutti   v...@apache.org
  * Walter Kasperwkas...@apache.org
 
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Fabian Christ
be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Stanbol, to
serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Stanbol PMC be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
encourage open development and increased participation in the
Apache Stanbol Project; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that the Apache Stanbol Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator Stanbol podling; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator Stanbol podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.
 
 

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Re: [VOTE] Stanbol to graduate from the incubator

2012-09-05 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Good catch. The first one obviously was omitted by mistake.

Likely cause of this omission: He was not added to this list when he
became a committer and a PPMC member:
http://incubator.apache.org/stanbol/team.html

That Ali Anil Sinaci became a committer was one of the results of the
incubation process !

Cheers,
Andreas
---

Niall Pemberton:
 I see from the discussion threads that you decided to remove people
 who had never been active - but were the following people omitted from
 the resolution by mistake or on purpose?
 
 Ali Anil Sinaci (70 commits, last in May  voted on graduation  resolution):
 http://stanbol.markmail.org/search/?q=from%3Asinaci
 
 Wernher Behrendt (3 commits, all in June)
 http://stanbol.markmail.org/search/?q=from%3Awernher
 
 Stefane Fermigier
 http://stanbol.markmail.org/search/?q=from%3Afermigier
 
 Niall

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end-user operating systems Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Rob Weir:
 You probably don't see this on the server yet, but end-user operating
 systems, both desktop and devices, both at OS level as well as in
 browsers and with antivirus software, are shifting over to excluding
 non-signed executable by default.  This is equally true of software
 distributed on CD's, via downloads, or listed in OS-vendor stores.
  That is the direction that the industry is going.  Any desktop
 application that ignores this trend will become unusable by most
 users.  Instead of detached digital signatures that Apache releases
 already carry, the OS vendors expect integrated signatures via code
 signing.

Sorry for extending this thread, but I am curious:

Which OS vendors and end-user operating systems are you talking about?

The end-user operating system Debian does not require integrated signatures:
http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt

Cheers,
Andreas

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Convenience signatures Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-25 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Benson Margulies:
 In the mean time, AOO releases can continue to have 'convenience
 binaries', sans signatures.

If they can have 'convenience binaries' they should also be able to
provide 'convenience signatures.

Cheers,
Andreas

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Stanbol 0.9.0-incubating

2012-05-02 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
+1 non-binding

On 02.05.2012 11:28, Fabian Christ wrote:
 Hi,

 this is the first Apache Stanbol (incubating) release. Please vote for 
 releasing

 *Apache Stanbol 0.9.0-incubating*

 The RC7 for this release has passed our PPMC vote and we already have
 three binding +1 votes from IPMC members. The PPMC vote thread can be
 found here
 http://markmail.org/thread/irzmcr6iekjjzuje

 The source release is available for download at:
 http://people.apache.org/~fchrist/apache-stanbol-0.9.0-incubating-RC7/

 The required -deps package is available for download at:
 http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/stanbol/apache-stanbol-0.9.0-incubating-deps/

 Keys are at:
 http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/stanbol/KEYS

 Release tag is:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/stanbol/tags/0.9.0-incubating

 This release covers 408 resolved issues marked in JIRA as fixed for
 0.9.0-incubating.
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hiderequestId=12319391

 This vote is open for at least 72 hours.

 Best,
  - Fabian

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Re: [VOTE] CloudStack for Apache Incubator

2012-04-09 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
+1 non-binding

Cheers,
Andreas

On 10.04.2012 03:32, Kevin Kluge wrote:
 Hi All.  I'd like to call for a VOTE for CloudStack to enter the Incubator.  
 The proposal is available at [1] and I have also included it below.   Please 
 vote with:
 +1: accept CloudStack into Incubator
 +0: don't care
 -1: do not accept CloudStack into Incubator (please explain the objection)

 The vote is open for at least 72 hours from now (until at least 19:00 US-PST 
 on April 12, 2012).

 Thanks for the consideration.

 -kevin

 [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CloudStackProposal




 Abstract

 CloudStack is an IaaS (Infrastracture as a Service) cloud orchestration 
 platform.

 Proposal

 CloudStack provides control plane software that can be used to create an IaaS 
 cloud. It includes an HTTP-based API for user and administrator functions and 
 a web UI for user and administrator access. Administrators can provision 
 physical infrastructure (e.g., servers, network elements, storage) into an 
 instance of CloudStack, while end users can use the CloudStack self-service 
 API and UI for the provisioning and management of virtual machines, virtual 
 disks, and virtual networks.

 Citrix Systems, Inc. submits this proposal to donate the CloudStack source 
 code, documentation, websites, and trademarks to the Apache Software 
 Foundation (ASF).

 Background

 Amazon and other cloud pioneers invented IaaS clouds. Typically these clouds 
 provide virtual machines to end users. CloudStack additionally provides 
 baremetal OS installation to end users via a self-service interface. The 
 management of physical resources to provide the larger goal of cloud service 
 delivery is known as orchestration. IaaS clouds are usually described as 
 elastic -- an elastic service is one that allows its user to rapidly scale 
 up or down their need for resources.

 A number of open source projects and companies have been created to implement 
 IaaS clouds. Cloud.com started CloudStack in 2008 and released the source 
 under GNU General Public License version 3 (GPL v3) in 2010. Citrix 
 acquired Cloud.com, including CloudStack, in 2011. Citrix re-licensed the 
 CloudStack source under Apache License v2 in April, 2012.

 Rationale

 IaaS clouds provide the ability to implement datacenter operations in a 
 programmable fashion. This functionality is tremendously powerful and 
 benefits the community by providing:

 - More efficient use of datacenter personnel
 - More efficient use of datacenter hardware
 - Better responsiveness to user requests
 - Better uptime/availability through automation

 While there are several open source IaaS efforts today, none are governed by 
 an independent foundation such as ASF. Vendor influence and/or proprietary 
 implementations may limit the community's ability to choose the hardware and 
 software for use in the datacenter. The community at large will benefit from 
 the ability to enhance the orchestration layer as needed for particular 
 hardware or software support, and to implement algorithms and features that 
 may reduce cost or increase user satisfaction for specific use cases. In this 
 respect the independent nature of the ASF is key to the long term health and 
 success of the project.

 Initial Goals

 The CloudStack project has two initial goals after the proposal is accepted 
 and the incubation has begun.

 The Cloudstack Project's first goal is to ensure that the CloudStack source 
 includes only third party code that is licensed under the Apache License or 
 open source licenses that are approved by the ASF for use in ASF projects. 
 The CloudStack Project has begun the process of removing third party code 
 that is not licensed under an ASF approved license. This is an ongoing 
 process that will continue into the incubation period. Third party code 
 contributed to CloudStack under the CloudStack contribution agreement was 
 assigned to Cloud.com in exchange for distributing CloudStack under GPLv3. 
 The CloudStack project has begun the process of amending the previous 
 CloudStack contribution agreements to obtain consent from existing 
 contributors to change the CloudStack project's license. In the event that an 
 existing contributor does not consent to this change, the project is prepared 
 to remove that contributor's code. Additionally, there are binary 
 dependencies on redistributed libraries that are not provided with an 
 ASF-approved license. Finally, the CloudStack has source files incorporated 
 from third parties that were not provided with an ASF-approved license. We 
 have begun the process of re-writing this software. This is an ongoing 
 process that will extend into the incubation period. These issues are 
 discussed in more detail later in the proposal.

 Although CloudStack is open source, many design documents and discussions 
 that should have been publicly available and accessible were not publicized. 
 The Project's second goal will be to fix this lack of 

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-08 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
 These touch up changes pretty much complete the proposal and we're
ready to kick off a [VOTE] thread. Thoughts?

+1

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Re: CloudStack Incubation proposal

2012-04-03 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
On 03.04.2012 19:09, Jim Jagielski wrote:
 Now let's see who complains and says we're fragmenting the
 cloud community or whatever... Where's Simon? :)

Please, as far as I know the community situation regarding CloudStack
seems to be very different from the one concerning LibreOffice and
OpenOffice.org

Maybe you never understood what the discussion was about?

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Re: CloudStack Incubation proposal

2012-04-03 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
On 03.04.2012 20:10, Jim Jagielski wrote:

 Oh come on... 1st of all, it's a joke.

One I do not find funny at all.

  And 2ndly, people could complain that we should
 refuse the donation and force them to
 put all their code/energies into OpenStack...

CloudStack and OpenStack seem to be complementary and they use the same
license. I expect collaboration between these projects to increase not
decrease.

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Re: [IMPC] [VOTE] Graduate Apache Jena as a Top Level Project

2012-04-02 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
+1 non-binding

Cheers,
Andreas

On 02.04.2012 11:10, Andy Seaborne wrote:
 This is a call for vote to graduate the Apache Jena podling from
 Apache Incubator to be a top level project.

 Jena entered incubation in November 2010.  The project has added two
 new committers and PPMC members, made several releases and has a
 diverse committer base.  The user and development communities are
 active.  The PPMC has indicated [1,2,3] that it believes the project
 is ready to graduate as a top-level project with the resolution draft
 below.

 We ask that the IPMC approve this graduation request though this VOTE.

 [1] Vote:   http://s.apache.org/jena-graduation-vote
 [2] Result: http://s.apache.org/jena-graduation
 [3] Request for comments:
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201203.mbox/%3C5C4A33CB-B122-43A8-B082-CBD63B526DE7%40cray.com%3E


 On behalf of the Apache Jena PPMC,

 Andy

 -

 [ ] +1 Recommend to the ASF Board that Apache Jena Proposal
is ready to graduate to being a top level project.
 [ ] 0
 [ ] -1 Do not graduate Apache Jena because ...

 The vote will be tallied no earlier than:

Thursday April 5th, at 23:59 UTC.

 -

 X. Establish the Apache Jena Project

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software related to accessing, storing, querying,
publishing and reasoning with semantic web data while
adhering to relevant W3C and community standards.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Jena Project,
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Jena Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to accessing, storing, querying,
publishing and reasoning with semantic web data while
adhering to relevant W3C and community standards;
and be it further

RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Jena be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache Jena Project, and to have primary responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache Jena Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache Jena Project:

  * Andy Seaborne  (andy)
  * Benson Marguilies  (bimargulies)
  * Chris Dollin   (chrisdollin)
  * Damian Steer   (damian)
  * Dave Reynolds  (der)
  * Ian Dickinson  (ijd)
  * Paolo Castagna (castagna)
  * Rob Vesse  (rvesse)
  * Stephen Allen  (sallen)

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Andy Seaborne
be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Jena, to
serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Jena PMC be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
encourage open development and increased participation in the
Apache Jena Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Jena Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator Jena podling; and be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator Jena podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Rave 0.7-incubating

2012-01-23 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
+1 (non-binding)

Cheers,
Andreas

On 23.01.2012 16:17, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote:
 This is the sixth incubator release for Apache Rave, with the artifacts being 
 versioned as 0.7-incubating.

 We are requesting a lazy consensus vote, as we have already received 3 
 binding IPMC +1 votes during the release voting on rave-dev -

 VOTE:  http://s.apache.org/xqH   
 RESULT:  http://s.apache.org/rg

 Release notes:
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/rave/tags/0.7-incubating/CHANGELOG

 SVN source tag (r1227377):
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/rave/tags/0.7-incubating/

 Maven staging repo: 
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacherave-015/

 Source release: 
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacherave-015/org/apache/rave/rave-project/0.7-incubating/rave-project-0.7-incubating-source-release.zip

 Binary releases
 http://people.apache.org/builds/incubator/rave/0.7-incubating/apache-rave-0.7-incubating-bin.tar.gz
 http://people.apache.org/builds/incubator/rave/0.7-incubating/apache-rave-0.7-incubating-bin.zip

 PGP release keys:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/rave/KEYS

 Lazy consensus, vote open for 72 hours.

 [ ] +1  approve
 [ ] +0  no opinion
 [ ] -1  disapprove (and reason why)

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Re: [VOTE] DeviceMap to join the Apache incubator

2011-12-29 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
+1 (non-binding)

Cheers,
Andreas

Am 29.12.2011 17:05, schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz:
 Hi Incubator PMC members (*),

 I've just reviewed the [PROPOSAL] Apache DeviceMap... thread and I
 think all relevant issues have been adressed now.

 Let's cast your votes to accept DeviceMap as an incubating project,
 proposal is at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DeviceMapProposal and
 copied below as well:

 [ ] +1 approve DeviceMap as an incubating project.
 [ ] -1 reject (explaining why)
 [ ] +/- 0 don't care.

 This majority vote is open for at least 72 hours.

 Here's my +1.

 -Bertrand

 (*) although only votes from Incubator PMC members are binding,
 anybody is welcome to cast a vote


 *** DeviceMap proposal ***
 == Abstract ==

 Apache DeviceMap is a data repository containing device information,
 images and other relevant information for all sorts of mobile devices,
 e.g. smartphones and tablets.

 While the focus is initially on that data, APIs will also be created
 to use and manage it.

 == Proposal ==

 Apache DeviceMap allows users to access a wide array of technical
 specifications, images and other artifacts related to mobile devices.
 Typical mobile devices include smartphones and tablets, such as:

  * Android devices from multiple vendors
  * Apple’s iPhone and iPad family of devices
  * !BlackBerry devices
  * Windows Phone devices from multiple vendors
  * Symbian devices
  * Devices with a small marketshare running Bada, Tizen, WebOS etc.

 The list of Apache DeviceMap devices remains open to other device
 types, as the mobile sector is a highly dynamic marketplace and new
 device forms may surface which may not too well fit into a smartphone
 / tablet matrix, e.g. ChromeOS Devices.

 == Repository Data ==

 The exact structure of the repository data will be defined as the
 project progresses.

 At the moment we envision storing user agent strings and/or regular
 expressions, properties similar to CSS Media Queries, images of the
 actual devices, other attributes similar to what’s in UAPROF
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UAProf) for example, per-country market
 share data, etc.

 Modern mobile applications often do not need very detailed device
 data, so we will concentrate, at least initially, on basic device
 features as used in html5 websites.

 The W3C’s Mobile Web Initiative specs
 (http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/DDWG/) will also be evaluated for use in
 DeviceMap.

 == Background ==

 The initial motivation for Apache DeviceMap is to provide an open
 repository of mobile device data, available to the general public
 according to the Apache License.

 == Rationale ==

 We propose an open and community driven repository containing mobile
 device data, thereby allowing for analysis of device capabilities and
 feature sets. This is beneficial on several fronts, be it for software
 developers, stakeholders/decision makers or analysts.

 == Initial Goals ==

  * Define what form of data is valuable/required to setup a good
 working repository
  * Define what image sets are valuable/required
  * Define a data retention policy, meaning when should data be purged
  * Collect existing data and setup simple procedures for users to
 contribute and validate such data.

 == Current Status ==

 Proposal has been
 [[http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201112.mbox/%3CCAEWfVJkuv5qmb%2B8JXuF%3D3Zx4dsUNXoMMRKLWpZu4Eh%3D9-vJESg%40mail.gmail.com%3E|discussed]]
 on the Incubator general list, vote is ongoing there now (TODO add
 link).

 == Community ==

 This project will form a new community, driven by the initial
 committers listed below. We hope and feel that Apache DeviceMap will
 draw interest and its community will broaden.

 == Known Risks ==

 For device images and other data, we’ll need to define acceptance
 criteria and traceability rules similar to what Apache uses for code,
 to avoid any legal issues.

 Gathering data of any sort is a potential sensitive area and may
 require good public communication or even public relation activities.

 == Initial Source ==

 The [[http://OpenDDR.org|OpenDDR.org]] team will donate their existing
 source code to the DeviceMap podling.

 == Initial Committers ==

  * Philip Jespersen - philip.jespersen (at) terria (dot) com
  * Bertrand Delacretaz - bdelacretaz (at) apache (dot) org
  * Christian Stocker - chregu (at) liip.ch
  * Scott Wilson - scottbw (at) apache (dot) org
  * Sylvain Wallez - sylvain (at) apache (dot) org
  * Andrew Savory - asavory (at) apache (dot) org
  * Nils Dehl - nils.dehl (at) dkd (dot) de
  * Brian !LeRoux - brian (at) apache (dot) org
  * Stefano Andreani - s.andreani (at) opentecheng (dot) com
  * Alessandro Bellucci - a.bellucci (at) opentecheng (dot) com
  * Werner Keil - werner (at) openddr (dot) org
  * Tim Fernando - info (at) timfernando (dot) com

 == Required Resources ==

 === Mailing lists ===
  * devicemap-dev @ incubator.apache.org
  * devicemap-commits @ incubator.apache.org
  * devicemap-private @ 

Re: OpenNLP IP clearance question

2011-09-14 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Am 13.09.2011 21:38, schrieb Jörn Kottmann:
 The contributor told me that he worked on it also during his day job
and cannot reach
 his VP to sign a software grant and CCLA from him. Therefore he
decided to proceed as an individual
 and he did send an ICLA and SGA to the secretary.

 Can we now proceed, accept his contribution and go through the IP
clearance?

He worked on it during his day job and nobody legally representing the
company(?) did sign a software grant or indicate agreement with the
contribution otherwise, correct? Can there be any other answer to your
question than no?

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Re: Bluesky cleanup? (was: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling)

2011-07-19 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Am 19.07.2011 11:10, schrieb Chen Liu:
 Can we continue to release work?

Sure, but *not* within the Apache Incubator.

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Re: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-07-01 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
The vote does not need to be suspended. It perhaps would be enough to
leave the vote open for a month. If there is at least one -1 by then the
podling might continue to exist, otherwise it is retired.

My non-binding vote on retirement:
+1

Cheers,
Andreas
---

Am 01.07.2011 23:28, schrieb Upayavira:
 I would support a one month wait. No more. They've had a long time. One
 month is long enough to show seriousness. With no movement in that time,
 a swift vote can close the project down.

 Upayavira

 On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 09:36 -0400, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com
 wrote:
 Bill Stoddard wrote:

 I would like to see this vote suspended until we can get some feedback
 from Jack Cai re whether he is willing to be a mentor.
 I concur that we should suspend this vote pending the outcome of the
 project's attempt to reboot.

  --- Noel



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Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Am 12.06.2011 01:20, schrieb Henri Yandell:
 It is a large project; but so what? I thought Harmony had no chance of
 being coded and that went very quickly, showing how well maximum
 openness can walk the path between corporate, startup and hobby needs.

You think Apache Harmony is a comparable project? That went really well
... it is almost dead now.

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Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
+0 (non-binding)

I would likely have voted +1 if there were no existing Open Source
community behind LibreOffice.

The alleged(!) necessity to remove/replace LGPL libraries not covered by
the Oracle grant will not result in an improved free office suite but
only in delays and further incompatibilities with LibreOffice.

Cheers,
Andreas
---

 [  ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation
 [  ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation
 [  ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation

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Re: Remediation ...

2011-06-09 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Am 09.06.2011 19:13, schrieb Noel J. Bergman:
  Please stop using the meme that software patents make Americans happy.

+ 1 from Germany

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Re: A little OOo history

2011-06-07 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Am 07.06.2011 19:58, schrieb robert_w...@us.ibm.com:
 and charge $0.99 for the download, the cost of an iPhone app.   That is
 over $30 million/year.  Heck, I might just do that myself and retire!

No, you can not retire: I will only charge $0.49 or a part of a bitcoin ;-)

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Re: Legal concern: Are we getting to close ot a division of markets conversation?

2011-06-06 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Am 06.06.2011 03:56, schrieb robert_w...@us.ibm.com:
 There are limits to what competitors can do to divide markets among
themselves.  IANL, of
 course, but this smells very bad, and I suggest we don't broach the topic
 again, unless cleared by ASF Legal Affairs.  I myself will withdraw from
 this list if the topic comes up again, pending review by IBM Legal.

In that case maybe it would be a good idea to ask IBM Legal now and let
those know about the result who will vote about the incubation proposal,
because your mail suggests that people working for IBM will potentially
sabotage reasonable collaboration with TDF / LO during incubation.

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Re: Legal concern: Are we getting to close ot a division of markets conversation?

2011-06-06 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Am 06.06.2011 08:22, schrieb Greg Stein:
 This is just not a concern. Please end this thread. There is
 no problem, so this is just noise.

I disagree.

The issue is not if there is a legal problem but if people working for
IBM state that it might be one.

That might have a potentially severe effect on the podling.

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Re: Legal concern: Are we getting to close ot a division of markets conversation?

2011-06-06 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Am 06.06.2011 09:25, schrieb Greg Stein:
 Hey. Feel free to spin your theories.

Thanks.

 It just isn't possible to divide markets around ALv2 code.

Great if that is so. But if true or not: it is not even an answer to the
question raised by Rob.

I think that you completely misunderstand how this thread started.

One of the main topics of the whole discussion regarding the
OpenOffice.org incubation proposal was and is collaboration with TDF /
LO. And now the first initial committer from IBM in the proposal
states that some ways of collaborating with TDF /LO might be illegal and
should not even be discussed.

Sorry, but I think describing that as noise and asking people to move
along and not to worry is inappropriate.

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Re: Legal concern: Are we getting to close ot a division of markets conversation?

2011-06-05 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Am 06.06.2011 03:08, schrieb robert_w...@us.ibm.com:
 But I am very very very concerned that this conversation is starting to
 cross over into a division of market conversation, which has stiff
 penalties under US and international competition law.  Open source work,
 like standards, is work done voluntarily among competitors in the market.
 There are some things we must not talk about, especially things where
 competitors may be seen as arranging to reduce competition.  We need to
 steer the conversation far from this.

The discussion is not about reducing competition but about a reasonable
potential division of labor between Open Source projects to avoid
duplicate work.

For some it might also be about eliminating an existing monopoly
regarding office applications. To some extent this requires joining
forces, not dividing them.

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OpenOffice.org: Question to IBM regarding license of Lotus Symphony

2011-06-04 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
I am involved in both copyleft and non-copyleft projects and write this
as a member of the Open Source community in the broad sense.

Some people wrote that the only option to make OpenOffice.org /
LibreOffice code legally usable within IBM Lotus Symphony is to use a
non-copyleft license such as ASL2.

That does not seem to be true:
I suppose IBM could make Lotus Symphony source code available under a
license which is compatible with LGPL3.

I also notice that IBM currently does not sell Lotus Symphony but makes
binaries available for free:
http://www.ibm.com/software/lotus/symphony

So my question to IBM is:
Are you willing to consider open-sourcing IBM Lotus Symphony (even if
only parts of it) ?
If yes: which licenses would IBM be willing to consider ?

If those questions have already been answered than forgive me, there are
a lot of mails to read regarding the OpenOffice.org / Apache Incubator
proposal ;-)

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Re: OpenOffice.org: Question to IBM regarding license of Lotus Symphony

2011-06-04 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
The reason for my questions is that I hope that answers might in some
way potentially help to avoid separate code bases for OpenOffice.org /
LibreOffice or at least make it possible to avoid that for parts of the
code.

Some kind of reasonable relation between Lotus Symphony and
Openoffice.org / LibreOffice obviously is needed.

***

My opinion is that some kind of copyleft license might be better suited
for this type of software than a non-copyleft license. The difference
between libraries, frameworks etc. which are mostly used by developers
and end user applications might be decisive.

I am aware of great existing proprietary products usable by end users
built using software produced in ASF projects but I can not point to any
ASF application which is easily usable by non-developer end users (I
would be glad to be corrected ;-). Maybe that has something to do with
the license.

At the same time I think that a strong community around a project is
(regularly) more important than the license used by it.

In other words: perhaps there are parts of OpenOffice.org for which the
Apache License 2 is more appropriate than it is for other parts.

Cheers,
Andreas
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Am 04.06.2011 13:35, schrieb Sam Ruby:
 On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:24 AM, Andreas Kuckartz a.kucka...@ping.de
wrote:

  If yes: which licenses would IBM be willing to consider ?
 Is there any reason to believe that the Apache License, Version 2.0 is
 not an appropriate choice in this situation?


Am 04.06.2011 13:35, schrieb Sam Ruby:
 On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:24 AM, Andreas Kuckartz a.kucka...@ping.de
wrote:

 So my question to IBM is:
 Are you willing to consider open-sourcing IBM Lotus Symphony (even if
 only parts of it) ?

 While I work for IBM, I don't work for that part of IBM.  That being
 said, I do believe that we already have an answer to that question.
 IBM has indicated that they are willing to contribute to a project
 made available under the Apache License, Version 2.0, which is a
 recognized Open Source license.  Some of these contributions will be
 derived from the current IBM Lotus Symphony offering.

 As you are undoubtedly aware, IBM contributes to a number of projects,
 including Linux.  Contributions to each project are made consistent
 with the license terms of that project.

 If yes: which licenses would IBM be willing to consider ?

 Is there any reason to believe that the Apache License, Version 2.0 is
 not an appropriate choice in this situation?

 - Sam Ruby


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Re: OpenOffice.org: Question to IBM regarding license of Lotus Symphony

2011-06-04 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Another possible consequence of that option would be that both die.

Cheers,
Andreas
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Am 04.06.2011 15:10, schrieb Ian Lynch:
 1. TDF and LO goes its own way completely separate from Apache/OOo.

 ...

 Possible consequences of Option 1.  ApacheOOo gets insufficient
support and
 stagnates, TDF LO carry on developing what becomes the main used code
base.
 Or ApacheOOo attracts developers from TDF and it thrives and TDF dies. Or
 both thrive as two separate projects in their own right.


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Re: OpenOffice.org: Question to IBM regarding license of Lotus Symphony

2011-06-04 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Am 04.06.2011 16:00, schrieb Sam Ruby:
 While other choices may make sense depending on the
 specific circumstances, a necessary consequence of making a choice
 that does not cast the widest possible net is fragmentation.

I do not know if that is a valid perspective or not, but I think that
the categorical statement (necessary consequence) contained in it is
false.

The license used for the Linux kernel certainly does not cast the widest
possible net but I do not see significant fragmentation, quite the
contrary. There is essentially one and the same kernel used by (almost)
all Linux distributions (with rather small modifications).

(Generally: When a net is to wide it can get teared up.)

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opportunity to reunite the related communities Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community?

2011-06-02 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Am 02.06.2011 18:09, schrieb Jukka Zitting:
 I wouldn't be too quick to throw away this opportunity to reunite the
related communities.

 If the differences truly are insurmountable, I'd like to see that
 explained in the proposal before we vote on it.

+1 (not binding)

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Wave into the incubator

2010-11-30 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
+1 non-binding

Cheers,
Andreas

 Please vote on the acceptance of Wave into the Apache incubator.

 The proposal is available at:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
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Re: [PROPOSAL] OpenNLP Project

2010-11-18 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenNLPProposal

Out of curiosity: Are there noteworthy relations to these projects?

Apache Stanbol
Apache Jena
Apache Clerezza

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Jena into the incubator

2010-11-17 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
+1 (non-binding)

Cheers,
Andreas
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Am 17.11.2010 14:10, schrieb Ross Gardler:
 Please vote on the acceptance of JENA into the incubator.
 The proposal can be found at
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JenaProposal and is copied below.

 [ ] +1 Accept Jena for incubation
 [ ] +0 Don't care
 [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason:

 The vote is open for at least 72 hours.


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Re: FOO proposal and Clerezza

2010-11-03 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
I think that Clerezza and Foo can work together in one top-level project.

I have seen that the Jena project also decided to take Jena into the
incubator:
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_name=4CD0127C.8090105%40epimorphics.com

Maybe the time is ripe for a united Apache Semantic Technologies project.

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Re: Twitter widget on Apache project website.

2010-10-25 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Which widget exactly?

I would not be happy if an inclusion of a widget would enable a company
to track visitors of apache.org.

Cheers,
Andreas


Am 26.10.2010 04:02, schrieb Edward J. Yoon:
 Hello,

 We'd like to add twitter widget to apachehama website for display
 recent tweets about #apachehama on Twitter as below:

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12458027/screenshot.PNG

 I just wonder whether there is a problem with ASF policy.

 Thanks!
   

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Re: Incubator Board Report February 2010

2010-02-15 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
What happened to Socialsite? It was still mentioned in January 2010.

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Re: SocialSite Podling status ?

2009-12-13 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Dave wrote on August 12, 2009:

 I hope to have another update very soon, I just wrote to my ol' buddy
Jonathan and my favorite Sun VP ;-)

Any news ?

(It would be sad if Oracle and/or Sun prevent this software to survive ...)

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Re: Move Apache Lenya to Successfully Incubated

2004-11-17 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
I do not see those changes on the website...

Andreas

- Original Message - 
From: Gregor J. Rothfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: Move Apache Lenya to Successfully Incubated


 Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
  Apache Lenya is still listed as Currently Incubating on this page
  http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html
  
  Lenya has successfully exited the incubator. Please move the entry to
  Successfully Incubated and change the link to http://lenya.apache.org/
  
  Thanks,
  Andreas
  
  BTW: there is a small typo on the page: Succesfully - Successfully
 
 both fixed
 
 -- 
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 COO, Wyona   Content Management Solutionshttp://wyona.com
 Apache Lenya  http://lenya.apache.org
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Re: Move Apache Lenya to Successfully Incubated

2004-11-17 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
I have forwarded your mail to the Lenya developers list.

Cheers,
Andreas

- Original Message -
From: Niclas Hedhman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Andreas Kuckartz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: Move Apache Lenya to Successfully Incubated


 On Wednesday 17 November 2004 22:04, Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
  I do not see those changes on the website...

 We (at Gump) could use a little bit of help figuring out what it takes to
 build Lenya.

 Does any of the following ring a bell?


http://brutus.apache.org/gump/public/lenya/lenya/gump_work/build_lenya_lenya.htm
l


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Re: Mentor(s) required for a search engine project

2004-11-16 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
I am no potential sponsor but would like to see a comparison to Apache Jakarta
Lucene (http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/index.html) which is implemented
in Java.

Andreas

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 4:04 PM
Subject: Mentor(s) required for a search engine project


Hello,
I am looking for a Mentor(s) for the following project.
We are developing a new open source search engine provisionally named Locust
and are looking for an open source organization to host this project. The main
features of Locust are:
* High performance - about one million documents per day on a Dell PowerEdge
2500 server, index size of up to ten million documents with fast search is
successfully used.
* Integration of full-text search with directory assisted search (Yahoo style)
is built in.
* A multi-threaded Linux application written in C++ with STL.
Locust is based on complete rewriting of another open search engine ASPseek
(http://www.aspseek.org/). The reason for rewriting was a dismal state of
ASPseek code that made it impossible to develop it further. Whoever wrote it
made a very good job on general architecture and features, but had no idea about
software engineering. New code is reasonably clean and modular. Although it
generally mimics the functionality of ASPseek (plus added integration with
directories and better document set selection), it is possible now, due to its
modular structure, to develop the code in many interesting direction, such as
indexing document from different sources (in addition to the Web), creating
distributed search services where many Locust based search engines cooperate via
TCP/IP, etc.

I would be glad to provide more information to potential Mentors.

Gregory Kozlovsky

Project Manager for Information Systems Tel: +41 (0)1 632 63 70
International Relations and Security Network (ISN) Fax: +41 (0)1 632 14 13
Center for Security Studies Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ETH Zürich (Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich) http://www.isn.ch/
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LGPL / Apache (Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila)

2004-10-21 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
I noticed that Twister is licensed under the LGPL. Is it possible to merge that
code with Apache Agila ?

Andreas

- Original Message -
From: Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 2:52 PM
Subject: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila


 Hello,

 I'm the project leader of Twister, an open source WS-BPEL engine. More
 can be found about Twister here:

 http://www.smartcomps.org/twister

 I'm sending this e-mail to suggest a donation of Twister to the Apache
 Group and a merge with the incubated Apache Agila project. I believe
 that Twister and the Gluecode engine could be assembled to a better
 solution, using the strengths of both implementations. This would also
 be beneficial for the BPM Open Source community and would bring more
 users and contributors to Agila.

 Regards,

 Matthieu Riou

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Re: Apache Agila : BPM engine

2004-09-30 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Sounds interesting. Is a more detailed description availiable somewhere ?

Andreas

- Original Message - 
From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 8:27 PM
Subject: Apache Agila : BPM engine


 All,
 
 The Jakarta PMC has voted to accept in Jakarta the contribution of a 
 BPM engine from Gluecode, my employer, and I am starting the basic work 
 of getting it into [and out of] incubation.
 
 Currently called Apache Agila, it is a small, lightweight BPM engine 
 that we have developed as the core of our BPM product.  BPM is an 
 important part of the Java server-side stack, and we feel that this 
 contribution will be a great 'seed' for a full-fledged BPM project at 
 Apache.  At the ASF, you can find a fairly rich set of parts for an 
 enterprise application stack, such as Geronimo, Tomcat, Derby, 
 Jetspeed, Pluto et al, and now there's the addition of BPM.
 
 The engine has no dependencies upon platform (like J2EE), and I'm 
 guessing that it's easy to embed this engine into the popular framworks 
 and platforms, such as hivemind, spring, struts, pico, etc.  Agila will 
 arrive with simple HTML GUI via a servlet, and JDBC-based persistence, 
 but these are services that can be replaced with other implementations. 
   For example, the Gluecode product does a JSR-168 portals and 
 J2EE-based implementation of the services.
 
 Anyway, this is a notice of what's happening, and an invitation to all 
 to come and participate in the project.
 
 I've CC-ed [EMAIL PROTECTED], but lets keep the conversation about it 
 here in the incubator for now.  I'll be setting up the mail-lists 
 first, and will note when that happens so we can switch .
 
 Thanks
 
 geir
 
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Re: DB PMC has voted to sponsor Derby

2004-08-03 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
  For those who are interested in Derby / Cloudscape:

  IBM Donates Cloudscape to Apache Foundation  MS's Patent Purpose

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040803025804265

 It seems to be big:

IBM estimated the value of its contribution to be about $85 million

Andreas

- Original Message -
From: John McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 2:03 AM
Subject: DB PMC has voted to sponsor Derby


 IBM has submitted a proposal to the Apache DB project for a Java-based
 package to be called 'Derby'.  The DB project has voted to sponsor Derby
 through the incubator, so the incubator can go ahead and start setting
 up the infrastructure to accommodate the mailing lists, codebase, and
 other aspects.

 The attached proposal asks that a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list and cvs
module incubator-derby be created.  I would suggest [EMAIL PROTECTED],
unless that conflicts with current incubator policy.  There is also some
discussion indicating Derby may wish to use subversion instead of cvs.  Since
cvs module setup is sometimes delegated to the sponsoring PMC, I will make sure
this is clarified before that step is taken.  But please proceed with the
preparations for Derby's incubation.

 Ken Coar [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be the podling mentor.

 Thank you,
 John McNally
 DB PMC Chair










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Re: [VOTE] Lenya exiting incubation

2004-07-23 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Steven Noels wrote:

 I'm +1 on Lenya exiting incubation, withdrawing earlier reservations in 
 the sense that I feel the current community is much more diverse, 
 goal-oriented and less marketing-eager than what we have seen in the 
 past.

I am still marketing-eager...

(I hope you do not withdraw your withdrawal now ;-)

Cheers,
Andreas


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Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
This is my last mail regarding Stephen McConnell. His mails are now
automatically deleted from my inbox. I do not have time for such debates
(?)with no visible content.

Andreas

- Original Message -
From: Stephen McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: Personal attacks and respect


 Noel J. Bergman wrote:

 I'm quite confident that a good portion of the inhabitants
 of this list doesn't care much about who is going to win
 this flamefest.
 
 
  +1
 
  There is a sense in which a general discussion on community building
  techniques and communication skills is worthwhile.  I've suggested to Nicola
  Ken that he start work on a web page to cover ideals, techniques and
  scenarios.

 -1

 Sorry but Nicola Ken is not qualified.  I'm sorry Nicola but you
 instigated this and only you can fix it.

 Stephen.

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Re: [Summary ]Re: [TEST+VOTE] Lenya 1.2 Release

2004-06-14 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Noel J. Bergman wrote:

 why is there an urgent need for release?  And
 why release first, exit later?  Why not get
 cleaned up, exit and then have a real release?  Personally, I suspect that
 the ability to do the aforementioned releases has been a factor
 underlying the lack of impetus within Lenya to get clean and exit.

Those who have followed the debate on lenya-dev list know that the developers
want to release the code to be able to strengthen the community.

If there are any objections to the release of Lenya 1.2 based on the code
quality or based on legal reasons etc. then please state them now.

I think that it should be the task of the Apache Incubator to help exiting the
incubator. It should not try to artificially block releases.

Andreas


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Re: [VOTE] Official Name for Geronimo Project

2003-12-01 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
 I'm changing my vote, not because I don't believe in my earlier 
 thoughts, but becausewe are wasting so much time and energy on something 
 that should be much simpler.

This gets my vote for the most unprincipled vote in this whole thread.

Andreas


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Re: AW: AW: We want to donate a XML / Cocoon / EJB / WebStart - based CMS

2003-08-29 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
 Because of ongoing server problems you can test the Application under:
 http://213.252.141.109/admin/
 To get access to the Admin Tool try following:
 User: BT
 Passwd: test

I tried that but when I tried to log in using the Java application I got an
error message saying null.

Andreas


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Login problems (Re: AW: AW: We want to donate a XML / Cocoon / EJB / WebStart - based CMS)

2003-08-29 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
  This doesn't work for me at all, I get It was no possible to 
  get config
  file
  or words to that effect.  
  
  Ideas?
 
 Do you're using a proxy server?

No, but I am behind a firewall - which should not matter but who knows.

Andreas


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Re: updating bugzilla (was: policy question)

2003-08-22 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
 Any idea what it would take to update bugzilla?  Is it just a
 replace-the-script operation, or is it more involved?

Details for the latest released version (2.16.3) are documented here:
http://www.bugzilla.org/docs216/html/upgrading.html

Conflicting Perl library versions are one potential problem which comes to
mind. I therefore would not encourage to upgrade without having some
experience with Perl, CPAN and MySQL available in case something does not
work as it should.

Maybe an appeal to the AxKit and mod_perl people could help to find such
experience (and people willing to help) within the Apache community.

Cheers,
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Re: policy question

2003-08-21 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
bugzilla seems to be the one tool that is driving projects to use
foreign tools [...]

One reason might be that this problem with the installation on nagoya is not
fixed - which could be done by upgrading to a current version of Bugzilla:

query.cgi javascript is as slow as molasses
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=18747

Cheers,
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Re: Invitation to participate in Apache J2EE efforts

2003-08-14 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
 Apache Geronimo has been launched within the Apache Incubator.

Interesting. I have not seen a single mail on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mentioning such a project before. The exception is a mail containing a
proposal sent by Geir Magnusson Jr. which arrived 9 minutes earlier.

Andreas


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Marc Fleury reacts (Fw: [JBoss-dev] July 2003 news)

2003-08-07 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
FYI.

Other strange things are happening as well such as blocked JBoss cvs
accounts and blocked mails to JBoss mailing lists. This is really becoming
ugly.

Cheers,
Andreas

- Original Message - 
From: marc fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:33 AM
Subject: [JBoss-dev] July 2003 news


[...]

 Apache J2EE effort.
 First a bit of history.  I offered EJBoss when it was 4 month old to
 Apache.  The guys at Jakarta vote OK unanimously and their vote was
 overridden by Brian Behlendorf. The reason from behlendorf was that they
 'were not the dust bin of open source projects'. I heard the Apache
 crowd got offended for me calling them a bunch of fat ladies drinking
 tea at a later date when they were running around telling us how to run
 our project.  We had reports that this was the non-official reason for
 this challenge.  Challenge accepted.  More seriously as we overtake
 them in corporate penetration and business model, I guess they are
 finally looking beyond the HTTPD C codebase and imitation is the
 sincerest form of flattery.

 We are the real thing, all we have so far is talk and announcement,
 announcements are a dime a dozen.  Apache code on this project has yet
 to be released and then production reached and then maturity bla bla
 bla.  I have little comment on the project except to say that JBOSS IS
 NOT A PART OF IT. In a misleading announcement Apache chairman's Greg
 Stein implied JBoss was participating and that JBOSS CODE WAS PART OF
 THE PROJECT.  No current JBoss developers are participating in the
 Apache J2EE project and since JBoss is LGPL only full copyright holders
 can offer JBoss code under other licenses.  Bottom line? JBoss can't be
 forked by apache.   As our customers know, we are a business, a serious
 one and we seriously believe in and defend professional open source.
 That includes legal protection of IP.  Make no mistakes, JBoss will
 AGGRESIVELY defend its copyright and LGPL license.

[...]

 Marcf

 x
 Marc Fleury, Ph.D
 Founder
 JBoss Group, LLC
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Bad link: Contributor's Agreement (PDF)

2003-02-22 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
This link to the Contributor's Agreement (PDF) does not work:

http://incubator.apache.org/forms/ASF_Contributor_License_2_form.pdf


missing-file
C:\ApacheUPD2\incubator-site\build\site\forms\ASF_Contributor_License_2_form
.pdf


Andreas


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