Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
robert burrell donkin wrote: ... an idea and community ... i was wondering whether we might widen the general incubator list to include ideas for new projects provided that they are prefixed by [idea] in the subject so that anyone who's not interested can ignore. It would be difficult to bring an idea accompanied by a community. The community bit usually happens when there is working code and people pick it up and start using it. -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Branding of Incubator projects
[ Hi, this message doesn't seem to be going through - I'd appreciate it if you'd forward it on, or quote it in a reply, in the hope that whatever is causing mail problems sorts itself out today. Thanks! ] Justin Erenkrantz wrote: Podlings are, by definition, not yet fully accepted as part of the Apache Software Foundation. Therefore, they are subject to additional branding constraints. 1. The podling MUST be referred to as Apache Podling If you take the 'view from 1 feet up', this just doesn't clarify things at all. I think it would be simpler and clearer to not allow people to utilize the term Apache until the project is fully integrated into Apache. Starting to use the term 'Apache' also makes it more difficult for people to back out, which shouldn't actually be a bad thing, nor difficult for them or us. -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'public name'
Hi, We have a person who has contributed code to OFBiz who is reticent about having their name in public, which is what I assume the 'public name' field of the iclas.txt file is for. That's only available to members, right? Where else does the real name get used? If the person in question can't trust the ASF with their real name, then there isn't much to be done, or am I mistaken? Thanks, -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ARI, Atom Reference Implementation [Proposal]
James M Snell wrote: Not good: http://www.jtauber.com/demokritos Garrett Rooney wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomism There are a bunch of names here, and on the related pages (neutron, fermion, etc...): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Board report for OFBiz
In any event, which 12 projects would like to volunteer to provide a brief report? Or do we have to draw straws? ;-) Let's go ahead and get this over with. Given that OFBiz is new, it's a good idea in any case. OFBiz Status Report === The OFBiz project has commenced incubation in a slow-but-steady way, as can be seen here: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ofbiz.html Most of the infrastructure is set up and waiting to be transitioned, but the concensus seems to be to take things slowly. There are a fair number of people using the infrastructure, and making a mess of it for very long would create problems for users. All of the original committers bar Si Chen (who has sent his CLA in, and is waiting for it to be processed) have got their accounts. Work is ongoing to eliminate any LGPL code, although it appears there are some technical obstacles: http://lists.ofbiz.org/pipermail/dev/2006-March/010036.html (I'm not much of a Java guy, so anyone willing to help out there is welcome to have at it!) In terms of collecting CLA's, there is a lot of work to be done, but the OFBiz guys are chipping away at it: http://ofbizwiki.go-integral.com/Wiki.jsp?page=OFBizDevelopers For those interested in technical developments, Si Chen does a weekly roundup of interesting changes here: http://ofbiz-new.blogspot.com/ I'm happy with the progress so far. Questions? Comments? Thanks, -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: issues about new contributors of an incubating project
Upayavira wrote: Also, your mentor for the project needs to arrange for authorisation for everyone to the relevant part of SVN. There is an ofbiz group present in the authorisation file, but the group currently has no members, i.e no-one can commit at the mo. I went ahead and did that, are there any scripts or further steps that need to happen to finalize it? It's not a rush - as Jacopo mentions, the plan is to try and figure out the LGPL code before they migrate to the ASF subversion... just to keep things cleaner. -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OFBiz - next steps
Leo Simons wrote: As long as you make sure that the questions are more obvious from the docs afterwards, don't apologize :-) *) IP clearance checklist - I need to make a copy of that in SVN here, /incubator/site-author/ip-clearance. I'll try and get that done over the weekend. Ok, I added /incubator/site-author/ip-clearance/ofbiz.xml - although I only cut the lines to be cut and changed the title. More later... Its not just the ip clearance that's needed. There's the concept of an incubator status file (see below). I added that too, thanks to Jacopo Cappellato, who did the initial version of it. *) iCLA's - the OFBiz guys are working on it. This needs to happen before they get accounts, and conversely, they get accounts once this happens, right? if the right emails are sent as documented on /dev/, yup. Which /dev/ are you referring to? *) Cleaning up the code - they're in the process of cleaning up the code, getting rid of LGPL dependencies. This needs to happen prior to the code touching our subversion repositories, correct? No. It needs to happen prior to making any kind of release, and no LGPL code or binaries should touch our SVN. But working on removing such a dependency while within the incubator is okay. Ok - I get the impression that they've got a good handle on this, and may be able to do the initial import with no dependancies. *) JIRA - they have a JIRA instance of their own, which should be migrated to the ASF. I don't know anything about admin'ing JIRA, so I believe this step will require collaboration between David Jones and someone on the infrastructure team. Should I/we go ahead and open an issue on our side for JIRA migration? Does this step have dependencies, or can it start to happen when people are ready to do the work? Yes, go ahead. I think this is quite a tricky thing to do. Jeff Turner is the guy from the infra team to talk to. Ok. So, if David Jones is reading this, that would be jefft followed by apache.org, right? *) Mailing lists - an issue needs to be opened for the infrastructure team to create them, and then collaborate on moving over the existing subscriber list. Same question on dependencies as above. No particular dependencies. Provide the subscriber list as a file with email addresses seperated by newlines and add it to the jira issue, and its easy for the apmail people to add all those people in one swoop. Once that is done you can send an email to the new mailing list and all those people will know they're on a new list. Handling external mailing list archives (eg marc, mail-archives, gmane) might be a little work and depends on how those archives are set up to interact with the ASF stuff; I think some of them have 'special' support. I'll let the OFBiz guys take it from here on this issue... Anything else? The first step before doing any of the above is to get an incubation status file filled out and up on http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html Eg, start off with https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/projects/incubation-status-template.xml Thanks to Jacopo, we have an initial cut at that, but neither he nor I has the tools to turn it into HTML (and I need to get some sleep tonight). If anyone else on the OFBiz team wants to have a crack at it, it's attached to this email (I'm not sure you can access the incubator repo anonymously?). -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? document properties !--meta content=HTML Tidy, see www.w3.org name=generator/-- !--meta content=text/html; charset=UTF-8 http-equiv=Content-Type/-- titleOFBiz Incubation Status/title link href=http://purl.org/DC/elements/1.0/; rel=schema.DC/ /properties body section id=OFBiz+Project+Incubation+Status titleOFBiz Project Incubation Status/title pThis page tracks the project status, incubator-wise. For more general project status, look on the project website./p /section section id=Description titleDescription/title p The Open For Business Project (OFBiz) is an open source enterprise automation software project. By open source enterprise automation we mean: Open Source ERP, Open Source CRM, Open Source E-Business / E-Commerce, Open Source SCM, Open Source MRP, Open Source CMMS/EAM, and so on. It is one of the few apps of this type to be developed by a community, rather than one corporation. /p /section section id=News titleNews/title ul li2006-01-31 Project accepted by the Incubator PMC/li li2006-01-10 Project proposed to the Incubator PMC/li /ul /section section id=Project+info titleProject info/title ul lilink to the main website/li /ul ul lilink to the page(s) that tell how to participate (Website,Mailing lists,Bug tracking,Source code
OFBiz - next steps
Hi, So, with the vote having passed, there are some things to do. I think we need some guidance in terms of things to do and what steps can be run in parallel. Sorry if some of this is obvious. *) IP clearance checklist - I need to make a copy of that in SVN here, /incubator/site-author/ip-clearance. I'll try and get that done over the weekend. *) iCLA's - the OFBiz guys are working on it. This needs to happen before they get accounts, and conversely, they get accounts once this happens, right? *) Cleaning up the code - they're in the process of cleaning up the code, getting rid of LGPL dependencies. This needs to happen prior to the code touching our subversion repositories, correct? *) JIRA - they have a JIRA instance of their own, which should be migrated to the ASF. I don't know anything about admin'ing JIRA, so I believe this step will require collaboration between David Jones and someone on the infrastructure team. Should I/we go ahead and open an issue on our side for JIRA migration? Does this step have dependencies, or can it start to happen when people are ready to do the work? *) Mailing lists - an issue needs to be opened for the infrastructure team to create them, and then collaborate on moving over the existing subscriber list. Same question on dependencies as above. Anything else? Thankyou, -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] OFBiz Proposal
J Aaron Farr wrote: = OFBiz Proposal = So... this went out on the 25th... what's next? -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: public perceptions
Noel J. Bergman wrote: David N. Welton wrote: No I didn't - the comment below was Raphael Luta's - probably evident because of the double layer of quoting, but still... I would agree with this if there was no immediate percieved benefit when you are in Incubator, unfortunately it seems projects under incubation are still perceived by the larger community as endorsed by Apache. Actually, we've had quite a few comments from the public and incubator projects that dispute that view, especially in light of the disclaimers required to be conspicuously posted. Let's not conflate the issues with the Apache != Apache Web Server discussion. They're both, to some degree, issues of looking at Apache from 10 kilometers in the sky, or looking at it very infrequently. Which describes most people pretty well because they are busy with their own work, lives, projects, etc. Those who are close enough to comment know about the project well enough to distinguish between different subgroups. They're observing from a lot closer. It's probable that the second group are the ones that matter, and if they can see a difference, then there isn't really a problem. It's just something to keep in mind. -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] OFBiz Proposal
Roy T. Fielding wrote: * David N. Welton [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Yoav Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] * J Aaron Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Where are the mentors? Are the champions also going to mentor the project? According to the docs I read, the incubator PMC is supposed to assign them. I'd planned to help out where possible in that role. -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] OFBiz Proposal
J Aaron Farr wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OFBizProposal = OFBiz Proposal = This proposal outlines the creation of a new, top-level Open for Business (OFBiz) project within the Apache Software Foundation. +1 (non-binding) from me as well, just for the record. -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
public perceptions
[ changed subject to discuss topic more abstractly ] I would agree with this if there was no immediate percieved benefit when you are in Incubator, unfortunately it seems projects under incubation are still perceived by the larger community as endorsed by Apache. I think that the further away from something you get, the more vague your perceptions are. For instance, there are a lot of people who still think that Apache == The Web Server. When seen from afar, I'd tend to agree that a move to something.apache.org is going to be noticed by most people who are not looking carefully as project now associated with apache.org. This is a theory of mine that seems to be born out by talking with people, but it's not really an exact science. What say the marketing folks? -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposal for OFBiz to Join the ASF
Noel J. Bergman wrote: I was actually under the impression [that] the wiki was the place to leave this sort of thing During the collaborative phase of the PROPOSAL, the Wiki is used as a common edit space. When the VOTE comes up, the final propoal MUST be included in the VOTE e-mail, else that e-mail will be rejected. Ok - we collaborated privately at first, via email, so the wiki wasn't necessary. It is also good to try to ensure that discussion has settled down, and that there is a consensus before calling for the vote. I generally believe that a good ASF vote isn't called to make a decision; it is called to ratify one. Alright - so, in terms of procedure, what happens next and who can make it happen? The Incubator PMC votes on accepting the project? I think we're ready for that, unless there are further questions. -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposal for OFBiz to Join the ASF
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Is this becoming the current de-facto process, posting to a wiki? (or @)#!)#@ wiki, as I tend to think of them...) Can we please have things go to the mail list, as that should be the 'primary institutional memory' of the incubator community. Feel free to also have on a wiki for collaboration to get it done, but after that, the final proposal should, IMO, go to the mail list. Please provide a patch to the Incubator documentation saying how things ought to work, then. In order to give the OFBiz guys something to start with, I created a document with OpenOffice, the final, reworked version of which you can read as an attachment to David E. Jones' email at the root of this thread. However, I was actually under the impression (seeing that everyone else had done so) that the wiki was the place to leave this sort of thing, so I wiki-ized it. David (Jones) - can you add J. Aaron Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a mentor to the document, and change the sponsor to the Incubator PMC? -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (in)appropriate wiki use
Leo Simons wrote: From an incubator point of view, one other alternative mechanism to edit on wiki, e-mail to list would be send to list, add to SVN, submit patches to mailing list, commit patches to SVN, send to list. This is a bit more of a learning curve for people not yet used to working so extensively with centralized version control, but its not neccessarily bad -- we want people to learn that anyway. Keep in mind that with the Incubator, perhaps only one or two people might already have access to subversion. -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (in)appropriate wiki use
Leo Simons wrote: Keep in mind that with the Incubator, perhaps only one or two people might already have access to subversion. There's well over a hundred people with write access to the parts of incubator SVN where such stuff would live. If there's not enough of those people willing to handle the apply patch workload for this kind of stuff then we should really be putting that the incubator is currently closed sign up. If the people sending in proposals are not willing to take the generate patch workload then that's one reason to reject a proposal outright. Yep, a little barrier to entry for sure, but it might be a nice and useful mechanized one without a lot of the social engineering pain of policy. Well. In the case of OFBiz, for instance, I've helped them along with the bureaucratic aspects of the deal as much as I have been able to, but they have needed to work on the proposal too, because in the end, it's theirs. What's the point of working through subversion if I'm the only one doing the commits - kind of takes the point out of it, doesn't it? If subversion is just the place where the final version gets dumped, that's ok, but: It needs documenting. In any case, the proposal has been made, I think it's time that it stand or fall on its own merits, not whatever format it happens to be in or where it resides. -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-10) Incubation_Policy.html should specify to use the Incubator PMC
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-10?page=comments#action_12362831 ] David N. Welton commented on INCUBATOR-10: -- I would put TLP's as the most likely sponsor *if a project would fit*, then the incubator PMC, then the board, as a last resort. I think I would link the 'sponsor' section, but also explain the actions to be taken at that point, for anyone doing things step by step. Otherwise, it looks pretty good to me. Incubation_Policy.html should specify to use the Incubator PMC -- Key: INCUBATOR-10 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-10 Project: Incubator Type: Improvement Reporter: David N. Welton Priority: Minor This page http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html says: Approval by a Sponsor will generally occur only after a vote within the Entity, and will require that the Entity be convinced that the Candidate is appropriate for Incubation. A Sponsor may be one of: * the Board of the Apache Software Foundation; * a Top Level Project (TLP) within the Apache Software Foundation (where the TLP considers the Candidate to be a suitable sub-project); or * the Incubator PMC. Although in practice it appears that the Incubator PMC is the preferred sponsor for projects that would end up a TLP. The site could say something like this: Where a top level project is not an appropriate sponsor, the Incubator PMC is the preferred sponsor. Requests should be sent to the general (AT) incubator.apache.org mailing list. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Administrators.jspa - For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposal for OFBiz to Join the ASF
Any other questions or comments on this for now? I guess it should be placed on the wiki? I'll do that later today if no one else beats me to it. Ciao, -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposal for OFBiz to Join the ASF
David N. Welton wrote: I guess it should be placed on the wiki? I'll do that later today if no one else beats me to it. Here we go: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OFBizProposal I changed the proposed sponsor to the Incubator PMC, as that's apparently the done thing. Ciao, -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-12) Process_Description.html navigation improvement
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-12?page=comments#action_12362720 ] David N. Welton commented on INCUBATOR-12: -- Yes - personally I would put the whole 'Incubation' section above 'About', because it contains actual content... Process_Description.html navigation improvement --- Key: INCUBATOR-12 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-12 Project: Incubator Type: Improvement Reporter: David N. Welton Priority: Minor Attachments: Process_Description.html.diff http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Process_Description.html mentions a mailing lists section of this site, yet provides no link, and it is not at all obvious from the left-hand navigation where that might reside. A link should be provided. Thanks, Dave -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Administrators.jspa - For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Incubator PMC vs Board as sponsor (Re: Proposal for OFBiz to Join the ASF)
Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Friday 13 January 2006 04:27, David E. Jones wrote: As I understand it in order to become a top level project the Board must be the sponsor, which is why the proposal was written that way. That is a misconception. For projects targetting top-level, EITHER the Board or the Incubator PMC must sponsor. Board doesn't like to sponsor, and do so only in exceptional cases. So the Incubator PMC is the right folks to address. (And probably why you get the What is this doing here? response from the Board.) IMO this is a buglet with http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html which I filed here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-10 If you're reading that for the first time, or even if you're an ASF member like me who hasn't dealt with incubation before, it doesn't give you a sense for which one is the best to use. If someone grants me the relevant SVN karma and points me to the right checkout url, I will fix this and the other two bugs I filed as well. -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposal for OFBiz to Join the ASF
J Aaron Farr wrote: On 1/10/06, David E. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are all looking forward to your comments and desire to express in advance appreciation for all that you have done and are doing for the open source world and the software world in general through your efforts in the Apache Software Foundation. This proposal has caught my interest. I'd be willing to help mentor. Great:-) A couple of points: The proposal says that this project is to be sponsored by the ASF Board. Is that correct? Did the Board already +1 on or are we still searching for a sponsoring entity? The board response was along the lines of why is this here?, so I guess the Incubator PMC should be the sponsoring entity if there is to be one. Apache has generally stayed away from end user applications and instead focuses on infrastructure and middleware. That's not completey true, but is a good rule of thumb. For example, a lot of contributors and supporters of the ASF use our code to create ecommerce products. I'm a little worried that some may view this proposal as the ASF attempting to compete with these contributors. I think we should look at whether this project is a good fit for the ASF (I think so, or I wouldn't have mentioned the idea to them) rather than if we are stepping on someone's toes. Geronimo steps on toes. Harmony does to some degree, as well. Once upon a time, people sold web servers, and httpd stepped on their toes. And for what it's worth, the problems that OFBiz attempts to solve are hard, and there is a lot of room for competitors - both those that build other systems as well as those that build on top of OFBiz. JIRA, for instance, is built on top of code from the OFBiz guys. -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-10) Incubation_Policy.html should specify to use the Incubator PMC
Incubation_Policy.html should specify to use the Incubator PMC -- Key: INCUBATOR-10 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-10 Project: Incubator Type: Improvement Reporter: David N. Welton Priority: Minor This page http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html says: Approval by a Sponsor will generally occur only after a vote within the Entity, and will require that the Entity be convinced that the Candidate is appropriate for Incubation. A Sponsor may be one of: * the Board of the Apache Software Foundation; * a Top Level Project (TLP) within the Apache Software Foundation (where the TLP considers the Candidate to be a suitable sub-project); or * the Incubator PMC. Although in practice it appears that the Incubator PMC is the preferred sponsor for projects that would end up a TLP. The site could say something like this: Where a top level project is not an appropriate sponsor, the Incubator PMC is the preferred sponsor. Requests should be sent to the general (AT) incubator.apache.org mailing list. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Administrators.jspa - For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-11) 'exitting' on Incubation_Policy.html
'exitting' on Incubation_Policy.html Key: INCUBATOR-11 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-11 Project: Incubator Type: Bug Reporter: David N. Welton Priority: Trivial http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html Spelling mistake: Exitting - Exiting -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Administrators.jspa - For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-12) Process_Description.html navigation improvement
Process_Description.html navigation improvement --- Key: INCUBATOR-12 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-12 Project: Incubator Type: Improvement Reporter: David N. Welton Priority: Minor http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Process_Description.html mentions a mailing lists section of this site, yet provides no link, and it is not at all obvious from the left-hand navigation where that might reside. A link should be provided. Thanks, Dave -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Administrators.jspa - For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Incubator - who should apply?
[ Please CC replies to me - I'm not subscribed - thanks! ] I was looking at the incubator web site today, and one thing that I think is missing is an indication of who should apply. It's pretty vague, and while some flexibility is good, giving people an idea of what an Apache project should look like over time would be useful. If it's just your personal project that no one is ever going to find too interesting, perhaps it's not right for the ASF. Anyway, just a thought that crossed my mind... Ciao, -- David N. Welton - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Linux, Open Source Consulting - http://www.dedasys.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
