[ANNOUNCE] Apache Pirk 0.2.0-incubating Release

2016-10-09 Thread Ellison Anne Williams
Hi,

The Apache Pirk team would like to announce the release of Apache Pirk
0.2.0-incubating.

Apache Pirk (incubating) is a framework for scalable Private Information
Retrieval (PIR). The goal of Pirk is to provide a landing place for robust,
scalable, and practical implementations of PIR algorithms.

More details regarding Apache Pirk can be found here:
http://pirk.incubator.apache.org/

The release artifacts can be downloaded here:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/pirk/0.2.0-incubating

Maven artifacts have been made available here:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/releases/org/apache/pirk/

The release notes can be found here: https://issues.apache.org/jira
/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12320320=12338108

Thanks!

The Apache Pirk Team

--- DISCLAIMER  Apache Pirk is an effort undergoing incubation at the
Apache Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the Apache Incubator PMC.
Incubation is required of all newly accepted projects until a further
review indicates that the infrastructure, communications, and decision
making process have stabilized in a manner consistent with other successful
ASF projects.  While incubation status is not necessarily a reflection of
the completeness or stability of the code, it does indicate that the
project has yet to be fully endorsed by the ASF.


[RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Pirk 0.2.0-incubating Release

2016-10-09 Thread Ellison Anne Williams
Hi Guys,

The Apache Pirk 0.2.0-incubating release vote is now closed and has passed
as follows:

[4] +1 (binding) votes
[0] -1 (binding) votes

The Apache Pirk (incubating) community will proceed with the release.

Thanks -

Ellison Anne


[VOTE] Apache Pirk 0.2.0-incubating Release

2016-10-06 Thread Ellison Anne Williams
Hi Guys,

The PPMC vote for the Apache Pirk 0.2.0-incubating release has passed. We
kindly request that the IMPC now vote on the release..

The PPMC vote thread is located here:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/eeef01a2ed65e1c0919e08830d91279f40c94690fb76bc86ddc48c3d@%3Cdev.pirk.apache.org%3E

The artifacts can be downloaded here:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/pirk/0.2.0-incubating/


or from the Maven staging repo here:

https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachepirk-1006


All JIRAs completed for this release can be viewed here:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?proje
ctId=12320320=12338108


The artifacts have been signed with key : 1FD8849B

The vote will run for at least 72 hours and will close on Sunday, October 9.

Please vote accordingly:

[ ] +1, accept as the official Apache Pirk 0.2.0-incubating release
[ ] -1, do not accept as the official Apache Pirk 0.2.0-incubating release
 because...

Thanks!


Re: Pirk Not on the Podling Report Wiki for October

2016-10-04 Thread Ellison Anne Williams
Someone just pointed out the new quarterly reporting schedule -- thus,
question resolved.

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 10:13 PM, Ellison Anne Williams <
eawilli...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I don't see Pirk listed on the podling report wiki this month. Do I need
> to add it completely?
>
> Thanks -
>
> Ellison Anne
>


Pirk Not on the Podling Report Wiki for October

2016-10-04 Thread Ellison Anne Williams
Hi,

I don't see Pirk listed on the podling report wiki this month. Do I need to
add it completely?

Thanks -

Ellison Anne


Re: Wiki Write Access

2016-10-04 Thread Ellison Anne Williams
Looks like I am good to go now... Thanks.

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:29 PM, siddharth anand <san...@apache.org> wrote:

> FYI, Nick Burch reinstated my perms 2 hours ago. I now see the Edit (Text)
> link. Thx.
>
> -s
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 5:26 PM, siddharth anand <san...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > The same happened to my account -- user id : Siddharth Anand
> >
> > I used to submit the monthly podling reports for Airflow. Now that we are
> > 3-monthly/quarterly, I no longer have write access.
> >
> > -s
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 3:45 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Your account is still present.  Are you sure you're logged in?  Just
> >> double
> >> check, force a hard refresh, perhaps even log out and back in again.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 5:35 PM Ellison Anne Williams <
> >> eawilli...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > My wiki write access appears to have evaporated somehow. Can you
> please
> >> > write access for 'EllisonAnneWilliams' ?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>


Wiki Write Access

2016-10-04 Thread Ellison Anne Williams
My wiki write access appears to have evaporated somehow. Can you please
write access for 'EllisonAnneWilliams' ?

Thanks!


[ANNOUNCE] Apache Pirk 0.1.0-incubating Release

2016-08-30 Thread Ellison Anne Williams
Hi,

The Apache Pirk team would like to announce the release of Apache Pirk
0.1.0-incubating.

Apache Pirk (incubating) is a framework for scalable Private Information
Retrieval (PIR). The goal of Pirk is to provide a landing place for robust,
scalable, and practical implementations of PIR algorithms.

More details regarding Apache Pirk can be found here:
http://pirk.incubator.apache.org/

The release artifacts can be downloaded here:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/pirk/0.1.0-incubating/

Maven artifacts have been made available here:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/releases/org/apache/pirk/

All JIRAs completed for this release are tagged with 'FixVersion = 0.1.0';
the release notes can be found here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?
projectId=12320320=12338109

Thanks!

The Apache Pirk Team

--- DISCLAIMER  Apache Pirk is an effort undergoing incubation at the
Apache Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the Apache Incubator PMC.
Incubation is required of all newly accepted projects until a further
review indicates that the infrastructure, communications, and decision
making process have stabilized in a manner consistent with other successful
ASF projects.  While incubation status is not necessarily a reflection of
the completeness or stability of the code, it does indicate that the
project has yet to be fully endorsed by the ASF.


[ANNOUNCE] Apache Pirk 0.1.0-incubating Release

2016-08-30 Thread Ellison Anne Williams
Hi,

The Apache Pirk team would like to announce the release of Apache Pirk
0.1.0-incubating.

Apache Pirk (incubating) is a framework for scalable Private Information
Retrieval (PIR). The goal of Pirk is to provide a landing place for robust,
scalable, and practical implementations of PIR algorithms.

More details regarding Apache Pirk can be found here:
http://pirk.incubator.apache.org/

The release artifacts can be downloaded here:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/pirk/0.1.0-incubating/

Maven artifacts have been made available here:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/releases/org/apache/pirk/

All JIRAs completed for this release are tagged with 'FixVersion = 0.1.0';
the release notes can be found here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa
?projectId=12320320=12338109

Thanks!

The Apache Pirk Team


Re: [VOTE] Apache Pirk 0.1.0-incubating Release

2016-08-29 Thread Ellison Anne Williams
Hi,

It has been 72 hours and the IMPC vote for Apache Pirk 0.1.0-release has
passed with four +1 (binding) votes and no 0 or -1 votes. The Apache Pirk
(incubating) community will proceed with the release.

Thanks!

Ellison Anne

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Tim Ellison <t.p.elli...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 binding
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
>
> On 26/08/16 13:37, Ellison Anne Williams wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > The PPMC vote for the Apache Pirk 0.1.0-incubating release has passed
> after
> > updating the cryptographic export information; it is a source-only
> release
> > (no binary artifacts). We kindly request that the IPMC now vote on the
> > release.
> >
> > The PPMC vote thread is located here:
> > *https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8eed650dfe1acdd56a4b29ed5973ad
> d87883703fbebd1ba28150422f@%3Cdev.pirk.apache.org%3E
> > <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8eed650dfe1acdd56a4b29ed5973ad
> d87883703fbebd1ba28150422f@%3Cdev.pirk.apache.org%3E>*
> >
> > The artifacts can be downloaded here https://dist.apache.org/
> > repos/dist/dev/incubator/pirk/release/0.1.0/
> >
> > The artifacts have been signed with key 1FD8849B found in the KEYS file:
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/pirk/KEYS
> >
> > All JIRAs completed for this release are tagged with 'FixVersion =
> 0.1.0'.
> > You can view the release notes here: https://issues.apache.or
> > g/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12320320=12338109
> >
> > Please vote accordingly:
> >
> > [ ] +1, accept as the official Apache Pirk 0.1.0-incubating release
> > [ ] -1, do not accept as the official Apache Pirk 0.1.0-incubating
> release
> >  because...
> >
> > The vote will run for at least 72 hours.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Ellison Anne
> >
>
> -
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> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
>
>


Re: [VOTE] Apache Pirk 0.1.0-incubating Release

2016-08-26 Thread Ellison Anne Williams
Hi Justin,

The Paillier implementation was part of the original software grant for
Apache Pirk from the National Security Agency.

In terms of the README mentioning bundled cryptogrphic code, it says that
"Apache Pirk implements cryptographic software..." -- the Paillier class is
one such implementation. Please let me know if we need to add some
additional clarifying language and we can do so on the next release.

We will change the artifact naming conventions back to apache-pirk.

Thanks!

Ellison Anne

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 8:02 PM, Justin Mclean 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> +1 binding
>
> I checked:
> - name included incubating
> - signature and hashes good
> - DISCLAIMER exists
> - LICENSE and NOTICE good
> - No unexpected binary files in release
> - Can compile from source
>
> I noticed you’ve dropped “apache” from the release artefact names, IMO
> it’s good to keep it for branding reasons.
>
> In the export section of the README I’m little confused. The text mentions
> the JCA  (and there’s a couple of java.security classes imported in the
> code) and has a link to the oracle website [1] but fails to mention the
> bundled cryptographic code [2] or include a link to the relevant Apache
> page. Also out of interest where did [2] original come from?
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1. http://www.oracle.com/us/products/export/eccn-matrix-345817.html
> 2. ./src/main/java/org/apache/pirk/encryption/Paillier.java
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[VOTE] Apache Pirk 0.1.0-incubating Release

2016-08-26 Thread Ellison Anne Williams
Hi All,

The PPMC vote for the Apache Pirk 0.1.0-incubating release has passed after
updating the cryptographic export information; it is a source-only release
(no binary artifacts). We kindly request that the IPMC now vote on the
release.

The PPMC vote thread is located here:
*https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8eed650dfe1acdd56a4b29ed5973add87883703fbebd1ba28150422f@%3Cdev.pirk.apache.org%3E
*

The artifacts can be downloaded here https://dist.apache.org/
repos/dist/dev/incubator/pirk/release/0.1.0/

The artifacts have been signed with key 1FD8849B found in the KEYS file:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/pirk/KEYS

All JIRAs completed for this release are tagged with 'FixVersion = 0.1.0'.
You can view the release notes here: https://issues.apache.or
g/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12320320=12338109

Please vote accordingly:

[ ] +1, accept as the official Apache Pirk 0.1.0-incubating release
[ ] -1, do not accept as the official Apache Pirk 0.1.0-incubating release
 because...

The vote will run for at least 72 hours.

Thanks!

Ellison Anne


[CANCEL] [VOTE] Apache Pirk 0.1.0-incubating Release

2016-08-25 Thread Ellison Anne Williams
The Apache Pirk 0.1.0-incubating release vote is cancelled.

We have fixed our cryptographic export items as described below, but must
regenerate the artifacts due to the required additions to the README. We
will regenerate, vote within the PPMC, and then submit the vote again to
the IPMC.

Apologies for the inconvenience.

Thanks!

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 6:44 AM, Tim Ellison  wrote:

> On 25/08/16 00:48, Justin Mclean wrote:
> > -1 binding, willing to change my vote if encryption code issue
> > clarified.
> >
> >> The artifacts can be downloaded here:
> >> https://repository.apache.org/content/
> >> repositories/orgapachepirk-1002
> >
> > Please place the artefacts in the correct place [1] That that
> > releases MUST be placed in the list area and that maven is considered
> > a secondary channel.
> >
> > I checked: - name included incubating - signature and hashes good -
> > DISCLAIMER exists - LICENSE and NOTICE good - No unexpected binary
> > files in release - Can compile from source
> >
> > I see that the release looks to contains encryption source code [2]
> > (Paillier) [5], if so has this process been followed? [3]  I can't
> > see Prik listed here [4].
>
> Thanks Justin.  I have just updated the ASF Export Classification page
> to add product name "Apache Pirk" under the Apache Incubator project.
>
> We will co-ordinate the sending of the notice to US Govt., and updating
> the readme via Pirk's dev list.
>
> > Just out of interest why the “wideskies” in the class path name?
>
> s/class path name/package name/
>
> Wideskies is the name of an algorithm implemented by Pirk.  You can see
> the details linked from Pirk's website here
>http://pirk.incubator.apache.org/papers/
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
> > Thanks, Justin
> >
> > 1. https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/pirk/ 2.
> > ./src/main/java/org/apache/pirk/encryption/ 3.
> > http://www.apache.org/dev/crypto.html 4.
> > http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/ 5.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paillier_cryptosystem
> >
> >
> > -
> >
> >
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> >
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[VOTE] Apache Pirk 0.1.0-incubating Release

2016-08-24 Thread Ellison Anne Williams
Hi All,

The PPMC vote for the Apache Pirk 0.1.0-incubating release has passed; it is
a source-only release (no binary artifacts). We kindly request that the
IPMC now vote on the release.

The PPMC vote thread is located here:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f9321c1ce45c4f696639ecac2eac6acdcfbff6a669281941c9c06742@%3Cdev.pirk.apache.org%3E

The artifacts can be downloaded here: https://repository.apache.org/content/
repositories/orgapachepirk-1002

The artifacts have been signed with key 1FD8849B found in the KEYS file:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/pirk/KEYS

All JIRAs completed for this release are tagged with 'FixVersion = 0.1.0'.
You can view the release notes here: https://issues.apache.
org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12320320=12338109

Please vote accordingly:

[ ] +1, accept as the official Apache Pirk 0.1.0-incubating release
[ ] -1, do not accept as the official Apache Pirk 0.1.0-incubating release
 because...

The vote will run for at least 72 hours.

Thanks!

Ellison Anne


Re: [DISCUSS] Pirk Incubation Proposal

2016-06-07 Thread Ellison Anne Williams
Hi Nick,

One of our driving goals in open sourcing Pirk is to build and foster a
diverse community around scalable, robust PIR. Although the initial
committers of Pirk come from a limited set of entities, we are absolutely
committed to recruiting and growing a diverse committing community.

Thanks!

Ellison Anne

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Nick Kew <n...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 2016-06-07 at 09:01 -0400, Ellison Anne Williams wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> >
> > We would like to discuss the proposal of a new project to the incubator -
> > Pirk.
>
> I note you have a champion and mentors all from a single company.
> It's not clear whether initial committers are any more diverse.
> Is there a risk of this remaining a company project in all but name?
>
> --
> Nick Kew
>
>
> -
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Re: [DISCUSS] Pirk Incubation Proposal

2016-06-07 Thread Ellison Anne Williams
Hi Shane,

Great point.

There are good public datasets available for testing and development
purposes via AWS Public Data Sets (https://aws.amazon.com/datasets/), the
US Open Data Initiative (http://catalog.data.gov/dataset), Kaggle's public
datasets (https://www.kaggle.com/datasets), etc.

Thanks!

Ellison Anne

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:

> Certainly sounds like an interesting project.  One thing to think about
> will be ensuring you can find sufficent datasets and testsets under
> appropriate licenses so any project participant can run tests against a
> realistic scenario.
>
> Joe Witt wrote on 6/7/16 11:25 AM:
> > Benjamin,
> >
> > The correct way to refer to any Apache project is 'Apache Foo'
>
> True, but in practice - especially outside the project - it is  often
> shortened to drop the Apache.  That's fine in some cases; unfortunately
> for some very popular projects it happens so often it's a serious
> problem.  We have a basic guide that needs more review:
>
>   http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/guide
>
> >
> > I look forward to hearing people say 'Apache Pirk'.  Now matter now
> > many times I try to say that quickly it sounds good.
> >
> > Was there any other concern about the naming other than transposition
> > of characters?
>
> Oddly, my first thought was in an English accent and I heard "Birk",
> which is not necessarily a polite thing.
>
> In any case, it's up to the PPMC of the podling itself (presuming it
> gets started here) to choose it's own name.  Everyone else here is just
> making suggestions, it's up to the people doing the work to decide
> (modulo being an acceptable PODLINGNAMESEARCH, when the time comes).
>
> - Shane
> >
> > Thanks
> > Joe
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Benjamin Young <byo...@bigbluehat.com>
> wrote:
> >> Say it 100 times real fast to someone over a low-grade cell connection.
> Type it 50 times as fast as you can without looking at the screen. Or just
> swap the middle two letters...
> >>
> >> Mostly, if there's a chance it will be heard, read, or typed
> incorrectly it should--if it can--be avoided. This one just seems too easy
> to get wrong.
> >>
> >> Hope that helps!
> >> Benjamin
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Joe Witt [mailto:joe.w...@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 11:15 AM
> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Pirk Incubation Proposal
> >>
> >> Benjamin,
> >>
> >> Definitely good to get solid discussion going on naming early.
> >> Curious to understand more of your perspective on what could be
> potentially offensive about Pirk.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Joe
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Benjamin Young <byo...@bigbluehat.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Looks like a great project!
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to propose (early!) that you consider changing the name from
> Pirk, however. It's too close to things that could easily be offensive or
> misunderstood.
> >>>
> >>> My personal recommendation would be "Piranha"
> >>>
> >>> http://www.morewords.com/ has several more options if you search for
> `pir*` or `*pir` or even `*pir*`.
> >>>
> >>> Beyond that, it looks like you're off to a great start!
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Benjamin
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Ellison Anne Williams [mailto:eawilliamsp...@gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:02 AM
> >>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Pirk Incubation Proposal
> >>>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We would like to discuss the proposal of a new project to the
> incubator - Pirk.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Pirk is a framework for scalable Private Information Retrieval (PIR).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The proposal is contained below and can also be found on the wiki at
> >>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PirkProposal
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Looking forward to the discussion -
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ellison Anne
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> = Pirk Proposal =
> >

[DISCUSS] Pirk Incubation Proposal

2016-06-07 Thread Ellison Anne Williams
 with other Apache Projects ===

As described in the alignment section, Pirk is already heavily dependent on
other ASF projects and we anticipate further dependence and integration
with new and emerging projects in the Apache family.

=== An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ===

We respect the Apache brand and desire to adopt its community building
principles. Our desire is to build and foster an open source community
around scalable, robust PIR  which aligns with the Apache tenets. Further,
Apache is a natural home for Pirk given our existing dependencies and
alignment with ASF projects.

=== Documentation ===

At this time there is no Pirk documentation on the web. However, we have
documentation included within the application that details usage. Using
incubator infrastructure we will be rapidly expanding the available
documentation to cover things like installation, developer guide,
frequently asked questions, best practices, and more.

== Initial Source ==

The core codebase is written in Java and includes detailed Javadocs and
feature documentation.

== Source and Intellectual Property Submission ==

The Pirk code and documentation materials will be submitted by the National
Security Agency. Pirk has been developed by government employees. Material
developed by the government employees is in the public domain and no U.S.
copyright exists in works of the federal government. NSA has submitted
Corporate Contributor License Agreement to the Apache Software Foundation;
the Software Grant Agreement is forth coming.

== External Dependencies ==

We believe all current dependencies are compatible with the ASF guidelines.
Our dependency licenses come from the Apache v 2.0 and Eclipse Public v1.

== Cryptography ==

Consistent with http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/ we believe Pirk is
classified as ECCN 5D002. In the event that it becomes necessary we will
engage with appropriate Apache members to ensure we file any necessary
paperwork or clarified any cryptographic export license concerns.

== Required Resources ==

=== Mailing Lists ===

 * d...@pirk.incubator.apache.org
 * priv...@pirk.incubator.apache.org
 * comm...@pirk.incubator.apache.org

=== Source Control ===

Pirk requests use of Git for source control (git://git.apache.org/pirk.git).
We request a writeable Git repo for Pirk with mirroring to be setup to
Github through INFRA.

=== Issue Tracking ===

JIRA Pirk (PIRK)

=== Initial Committers ===

 * Tracy Brown , CLA submitted
 * Christopher Harris , CLA submitted
 * Walter Ray-Dulaney , CLA submitted
 * Jacob Wilder , CLA submitted
 * Ellison Anne Williams  , CLA confirmed
 * Joe Witt (Hortonworks) , CLA confirmed

== Sponsors ==

=== Champion ===

 * Billie Rinaldi (Hortonworks) , IPMC Member

=== Nominated Mentors ===

 * Billie Rinaldi (Hortonworks) , IPMC Member
 * Joe Witt (Hortonworks) , IPMC Member
 * Josh Elser (Hortonworks) , IPMC Member

=== Sponsoring Entity ===

We request the Apache Incubator to sponsor this project.


Wiki Access For Proposal Creation

2016-06-06 Thread Ellison Anne Williams
Hi,


I would like to request access to the wiki in order to create a proposal; my 
username is 'eawilliams'.


Sorry for the duplication -- the response to the list with my username does not 
appear to be making it through...


Thanks -


Ellison Anne