Re: Apache ODF Toolkit (retired) migration to TDF

2019-02-07 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi Daniel,

Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Also, you might want to update the lists' autoresponders.
> 
That would indeed be helpful - perhaps also with a pointer to
odftoolkit.org.

> What about this page:
> 
> http://odftoolkit.incubator.apache.org/odftoolkit/index.mdtext
> 
Dunno, is that prominently referenced from somewhere? If yes, then
preferably the same change as for the
https://incubator.apache.org/projects/odftoolkit.html could be
made. Should we send a patch?

All the best,

-- Thorsten


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Re: Apache ODF Toolkit (retired) migration to TDF

2019-02-06 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi Dave,

Dave Fisher wrote:
> Created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17810
> 
Thx a lot, seems the transfer is in flight.

> > 2. adding a pointer from the ASF website
> >   https://incubator.apache.org/projects/odftoolkit.html to the new
> >   TDF website for the project, such that people looking for it still
> >   find the active project:
> 
> Where do you want the link to point? Is it
> https://github.com/tdf/odftoolkit ? Please confirm and I’ll make the
> change.
>
I think we'd prefer a link to http://odftoolkit.org on that page,
since it's of more generic nature.

> > 4. adding a pointer on the github repository
> >   https://github.com/apache/odftoolkit to point to the new git
> >   repository at https://github.com/tdf/odftoolkit (if not removed
> >   anyway at some stage)
> 
> We can probably make the same README changes as to the svn repos.
> 
Thx a lot - and yeah from within the code repos, a link to
https://github.com/tdf/odftoolkit would be ideal.

All the best,

-- Thorsten


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Apache ODF Toolkit (retired) migration to TDF

2019-02-04 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Dear people,

one of your committers (Michael Stahl, in Cc) last year asked to
migrate the retired ODF Toolkit project over to the Document
Foundation, which TDF would be happy to accept.

Volunteers from various sides have helped moving stuff; a few things
are though still left to do, thus this mail to the wider incubator
audience (ordered from more important to less important):

1. transfer of the domain odftoolkit.org from ASF to TDF (or perhaps a
   redirect if a transfer takes a while?) - Florian Effenberger (in Cc)
   would be happy to support that from the admin / technical side

2. adding a pointer from the ASF website
   https://incubator.apache.org/projects/odftoolkit.html to the new
   TDF website for the project, such that people looking for it still
   find the active project:
- perhaps also adjusting other references, e.g. README in the
  code repo archive at
  https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/odf/trunk/README.txt
- or are all those resources not preserved beyond a transition
  period?

3. if bugtracker, mailing list archives and the like are _not_
   preserved or archived somewhere - if TDF could get a copy of at
   least the public part of that data for some continuity in
   development?

4. adding a pointer on the github repository
   https://github.com/apache/odftoolkit to point to the new git
   repository at https://github.com/tdf/odftoolkit (if not removed
   anyway at some stage)

All the best,

-- Thorsten


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Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Thorsten Behrens
-1 (non-binding)

As stated elsewhere [1], this incubator, combined with the
disruption and delay it's causing to the OOo ecosystem, does not add
enough unique value to what we already have a TDF to justify the
effort.

(I'm referring to the existing proposal's mission statement [2], not
to the (quite sensible) visions invididuals have presented here)

[1] http://blog.thebehrens.net/2011/06/11/licensing-questions-and-the-ecosystem/
[2] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal#Proposal

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-07 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Simon Brouwer wrote:
 The real question is whether anything essential is missing that Oracle
 can't supply and that is very difficult to replace.
 
If you re-read Christian's mail, the answer to both is yes. And
another remark: given the overall state of the code (~20 years of
sedimentation), the full project history is of great value, when one
tries to figure out how one specific piece of code came to pass.

All of that makes starting off from the hg repo appear desirable ...

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-07 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Mathias Bauer wrote:
 I don't think that this is really necessary *now*, as we can do that
 even better and more efficiently when we actually work on the code
 from the svn repository. It was promised that the needed files will
 be provided once they are known. I'm confident that this will work
 out.
 
Hi Mathias,

hm, that bears the risk of missing stuff, and having to redo the
work - potentially rather late in the game (on top of having to
replace all non-Oracle-owned code).

Whereas getting a blanket statement from Oracle (here we grant you
the hg repo bundle) admittedly puts some risk into Oracle's basket.

Surely asking for the latter would be favourable for Apache, and
therefore something to at least try?

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community?

2011-06-02 Thread Thorsten Behrens
robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote:
 I'd like to challenge your assertion here, about splitting the 
 community, a nonsensical meme I'm hearing repeated in several venues.
 
Hi Rob - well, are you happier then with perpetuating the split?

As it doesn't fundamentally change the matter - this was a missed
opportunity to reunite. It'll bind considerable resources to
bootstrap a new community here - resources that are better spent
enhancing the code  marketing OOo and ODF, if you ask me ...

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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