RE: [DISCUSS] Apache BlueMarlin proposal

[Xun Hu]

Hi, Justin,

Many thanks,

Best,
-xun


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From: Justin Mclean  
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 1:58 AM
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache BlueMarlin proposal

Hi,

> I think we had a good discussion about this proposal. I propose to move 
> forward with the formal vote.


I don’t think there are any objections from the IPMC so you should just do that 
:-)

Thanks,
Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache BlueMarlin proposal

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> I think we had a good discussion about this proposal. I propose to move 
> forward with the formal vote.


I don’t think there are any objections from the IPMC so you should just do that 
:-)

Thanks,
Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache BlueMarlin proposal

[Jean-Baptiste Onofre]

Hi,

I think we had a good discussion about this proposal. I propose to move forward 
with the formal vote.

Regards
JB

> Le 15 mars 2020 à 08:46, Jean-Baptiste Onofre  a écrit :
> 
> Hi Justin,
> 
> - Good point about the community. We know it’s a point we have to work 
> generally speaking.
> - +1 about the "inexperience with open source" section, I will add some 
> content.
> - Agree to start only with dev mailing list
> - we are kindly asking for gitbox repo (not svn). It’s in the proposal draft: 
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/bluemarlin 
> 
> - the initial committer list is the actual team who created the project. We 
> bet on the incubation phase to increase this list obviously. I will check 
> with Xun if there is no miss in the initial committer list.
> - I think we already have three good mentors but we wanted to add additional 
> people to help building the community. If it’s a issue, we can reduce the 
> list or invite new mentors on the podling.
> 
> Regards
> JB
> 
> 
>> Le 15 mars 2020 à 07:49, Justin Mclean  a écrit :
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> They gave a presentation oat AupacheCon EU as part of the podling shark tank 
>> and we’ve already had some discussion about this - obviously more has taken 
>> place. It does sound like an interesting project.
>> 
>> Some suggestions/questions:
>> -  I would like to see more in the proposal about the community and what 
>> their expectation are there.
>> - Under “inexperience with open source” it would be good to mention what 
>> projects and if they have any committer or PMC members in other projects.
>> - Under required resources it best to have a single dev list without a user 
>> list to start off. The names of the list are not what are normally asked for 
>> is there a reason for that?
>> - Most projects seem to be using git these days, is there a reason svn is 
>> asked for?
>> - The initially committers seems small, are there any other people involved 
>> in the project that might be considered as committers? [1] only show three 
>> main committers. How do these match up with the four initial committers?
>> - One of the proposed mentors is not an ASF member or IPMC member and so 
>> would be unable to be a mentor and two may have a few too many incubating 
>> project on their plate to be effective mentors. Of course only they would be 
>> a good judge of that. One mentor is fairly new to mentoring.  Does the 
>> project think it has the right mix of mentors that will be able to help the 
>> project graduate?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Justin
>> 
>> 1. https://github.com/Futurewei-io/blue-marlin/graphs/contributors
>> 
>> 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache BlueMarlin proposal

[Jean-Baptiste Onofre]

Hi Justin,

- Good point about the community. We know it’s a point we have to work 
generally speaking.
- +1 about the "inexperience with open source" section, I will add some content.
- Agree to start only with dev mailing list
- we are kindly asking for gitbox repo (not svn). It’s in the proposal draft: 
https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/bluemarlin 

- the initial committer list is the actual team who created the project. We bet 
on the incubation phase to increase this list obviously. I will check with Xun 
if there is no miss in the initial committer list.
- I think we already have three good mentors but we wanted to add additional 
people to help building the community. If it’s a issue, we can reduce the list 
or invite new mentors on the podling.

Regards
JB


> Le 15 mars 2020 à 07:49, Justin Mclean  a écrit :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> They gave a presentation oat AupacheCon EU as part of the podling shark tank 
> and we’ve already had some discussion about this - obviously more has taken 
> place. It does sound like an interesting project.
> 
> Some suggestions/questions:
> -  I would like to see more in the proposal about the community and what 
> their expectation are there.
> - Under “inexperience with open source” it would be good to mention what 
> projects and if they have any committer or PMC members in other projects.
> - Under required resources it best to have a single dev list without a user 
> list to start off. The names of the list are not what are normally asked for 
> is there a reason for that?
> - Most projects seem to be using git these days, is there a reason svn is 
> asked for?
> - The initially committers seems small, are there any other people involved 
> in the project that might be considered as committers? [1] only show three 
> main committers. How do these match up with the four initial committers?
> - One of the proposed mentors is not an ASF member or IPMC member and so 
> would be unable to be a mentor and two may have a few too many incubating 
> project on their plate to be effective mentors. Of course only they would be 
> a good judge of that. One mentor is fairly new to mentoring.  Does the 
> project think it has the right mix of mentors that will be able to help the 
> project graduate?
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
> 
> 1. https://github.com/Futurewei-io/blue-marlin/graphs/contributors
> 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache BlueMarlin proposal

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

They gave a presentation oat AupacheCon EU as part of the podling shark tank 
and we’ve already had some discussion about this - obviously more has taken 
place. It does sound like an interesting project.

Some suggestions/questions:
-  I would like to see more in the proposal about the community and what their 
expectation are there.
- Under “inexperience with open source” it would be good to mention what 
projects and if they have any committer or PMC members in other projects.
- Under required resources it best to have a single dev list without a user 
list to start off. The names of the list are not what are normally asked for is 
there a reason for that?
- Most projects seem to be using git these days, is there a reason svn is asked 
for?
- The initially committers seems small, are there any other people involved in 
the project that might be considered as committers? [1] only show three main 
committers. How do these match up with the four initial committers?
- One of the proposed mentors is not an ASF member or IPMC member and so would 
be unable to be a mentor and two may have a few too many incubating project on 
their plate to be effective mentors. Of course only they would be a good judge 
of that. One mentor is fairly new to mentoring.  Does the project think it has 
the right mix of mentors that will be able to help the project graduate?

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://github.com/Futurewei-io/blue-marlin/graphs/contributors


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[DISCUSS] Apache BlueMarlin proposal

[Jean-Baptiste Onofre]

Hi,

With other guys, I worked on a new proposal for the Apache Incubator: Apache 
BlueMarlin.

The proposal draft is there:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/Apache+BlueMarlin 


Even if the people behind BlueMarlin are a bit "new" to Apache, they are really 
enthusiasts and asked help to several Apache members.

From a project standpoint, it’s interesting as it’s new area that we don’t have 
yet in the Apache foundation. Building a framework for web 
marketing/advertising business is interesting IMHO and we could see several 
platforms based on BlueMarlin.

Thoughts ?

Regards
JB