[RESULT] [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-19 Thread Michael Baessler

This vote has been open for more than a 72 hours.
We have 4 binding +1s, no 0s and 1 -1s.  


Votes were cast by:

Ant Elder (+1)
Matthieu Riou (+1)
Jean Anderson (+1)
Martijn Dashorst (+1) 


Kevan Millar (-1)

We will modify the checksum representation for MD5 and SHA1 so that tools can 
easier verify the release.

The vote passes.  Thank you all for checking our release!

--Michael Baessler


Michael Baessler wrote:
The Apache UIMA committers ask the Apache Incubator PMC for permission 
to publish a new bug fix release of Apache UIMA. This release contains 
bug fixes of the Apache UIMA 2.2.0 release published in August 2007. 
For details about the fixes, please have a look at the release notes.


We had a vote on uima-dev that resulted in 6 binding +1s
(all the committers) and no 0s or -1s.  The vote thread
is here:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-uima-dev/200712.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Please review the release candidate here:
http://people.apache.org/~mbaessler/uimaj-2.2.1/06/

There are subdirectories like:
/bin - that contains the binary distribution files
/src - that contains the source distribution files
/rat - that contains the RAT reports (using RAT 0.5.1) with some 
comments /eclipseUpdateSite - that contains the eclipse update site 
artifacts
/maven - that contains the Maven artifacts we would like to release to 
the incubator repository


The SVN tag for this release candidate is:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/uima/uimaj/tags/uimaj-2.2.1/uimaj-2.2.1-06 



Please vote:
[ ] +1  Accept to release Apache UIMA 2.2.1
[ ] -1  No, because

Thanks!

-- Michael



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Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Dec 19, 2007 10:52 AM, Michael Baessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...We have 4 binding +1s, no 0s and 1 -1s

I did vote +0 earlier in this thread. Just for the record, as it
doesn'n make much of a difference other than express support ;-)

-Bertrand

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Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-19 Thread Michael Baessler

We had two additional votes...

Now we have 5 binding +1s, one 0s and one -1s. 


Votes were cast by:
Ant Elder (+1)
Matthieu Riou (+1)
Jean Anderson (+1)
Martijn Dashorst (+1)
Paul Fremantle (+1)
Bertrand Delacretaz(+0)
Kevan Millar (-1)

Thanks again for your support!

-- Michael Baessler

Paul Fremantle wrote:

I know I'm late but I'd like to add a +1 to the vote.

Paul

On Dec 19, 2007 10:02 AM, Michael Baessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:


On Dec 19, 2007 10:52 AM, Michael Baessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

...We have 4 binding +1s, no 0s and 1 -1s



I did vote +0 earlier in this thread. Just for the record, as it
doesn'n make much of a difference other than express support ;-)

  

Sorry I missed that!

Thanks !

-- Michael


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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-18 Thread ant elder
On Dec 17, 2007 5:44 PM, Thilo Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kevan Miller wrote:
 
  On Dec 17, 2007, at 4:09 AM, Thilo Goetz wrote:
 
  William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
  Marshall Schor wrote:
  We've put the LICENSE, NOTICES, and DISCLAIMERs into the top
 directory
  of the source (and binary) distribution(s), but didn't realize this
  also
  needs to be in the top level of the SVN tag, because we didn't know
  that
  was considered part of the distribution.
 
  Can you please confirm this is the case?  In which case, we'll of
  course
  comply.
 
  Your distribution must correspond to subversion, otherwise it's very
  hard
  to track the artifacts in the tarball, where they came from, how they
  got there, and if they underwent the proper oversight prior to
  packaging.
  (Yes, we vote on the prepared tarball, but you can see how
 discrepancies
  do create questions.)
 
  That's not how I interpret the policy document.  It says:
 
  To apply the ALv2 to a new software distribution, include one copy of
  the license text by copying
  the file:
 
  http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt
 
  into a file called LICENSE in the top directory of your distribution.
  If the distribution is a jar
  or tar file, try to add the LICENSE file first in order to place it at
  the top of the archive.
 
  That's what we do.  Of course we'll make every effort to make
  our distribution easy to review.  However, it does seem that
  we're ok wrt current policy, and view this as a suggestion
  for next time.  Ok?
 
  Your interpretation works if your subversion repository is not a
  distribution. IMO, it is and should contain appropriate
  license/notice/disclaimer.

 If that is the consensus opinion here, that's what we'll
 do.  But please put yourself in our shoes.  We can only go
 by the information that is available to us.  If this is a
 rule, it would be great if it could be written down so the
 next incubator project doesn't have to go through this.  I'd
 be happy to help with the docs.

 Out of curiosity, I started going through the Apache SVN repo
 to see what Apache projects complied with this requirement.  I
 stopped after C because I'd already found 4 that didn't
 comply: Avalon, Cayenne, Cocoon and Commons.  Compliant
 were Activemq, Ant, APR and Beehive.

 --Thilo


I've never considered that the SVN tag for a release is a distribution
before, but its an interesting idea. There clearly is not yet consensus
among the IPMC on this though or if that tag MUST have LICENSE and NOTICE
files in the the top-level directory. As pointed out above many Apache
projects don't do this, and looking back at all the recent Incubator
poddling releases many of those have not done this either but never the less
their vote has passed.

So it is a new requirement and I don't think we should be making up policy
during a release vote like this as it makes it very frustrating for
poddling. How about letting this UIMA release out as-is for now while we
work this out? Kevan, would you withdraw your -1 for this release while we
resolve this?

   ...ant


Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-18 Thread Paul Fremantle
Kevan


 Your interpretation works if your subversion repository is not a
 distribution. IMO, it is and should contain appropriate license/
 notice/disclaimer.

 --kevan


Kevan

The SVN tag is only a distribution if it is published as that. The fact that
SVN is available to anyone via HTTP does not make it a distribution in
terms of Apache definitions. Otherwise we could never do any work in SVN
unless every single directory has a LICENSE and NOTICE file in it. After all
- any directory in SVN is available to the public. The point of a
distribution is that it is something that is created by a deliberate act and
vote. We haven't been asked to vote on the SVN tag afaik.

So I don't agree with your reading.

Paul


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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Dec 18, 2007 10:37 AM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...There clearly is not yet consensus
 among the IPMC on this though or if that tag MUST have LICENSE and NOTICE
 files in the the top-level directory

 ...So it is a new requirement and I don't think we should be making up policy
 during a release vote like this as it makes it very frustrating for
 poddling. How about letting this UIMA release out as-is for now while we
 work this out?...

Agreed, let's not introduce new rules in flight, especially when, as
you indicate, such rules are not followed by existing projects.

-Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-18 Thread Leo Simons

On Dec 18, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:

On Dec 18, 2007 10:37 AM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...So it is a new requirement and I don't think we should be  
making up policy

during a release vote


+1, that's even part of the policy! It is just *so* annoying that  
this keeps happening.



like this as it makes it very frustrating for
poddling. How about letting this UIMA release out as-is for now  
while we

work this out?...


Yup. It always gets fuzzy when voting and discussion intermix, but I  
do count 3 +1 votes and more +1 votes than -1 votes. That typically  
means the vote passes, so UIMA can release.


- Leo


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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-18 Thread Michael Baessler

Leo Simons wrote:

On Dec 18, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:

On Dec 18, 2007 10:37 AM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...So it is a new requirement and I don't think we should be making 
up policy

during a release vote


+1, that's even part of the policy! It is just *so* annoying that this 
keeps happening.



like this as it makes it very frustrating for
poddling. How about letting this UIMA release out as-is for now 
while we

work this out?...


Yup. It always gets fuzzy when voting and discussion intermix, but I 
do count 3 +1 votes and more +1 votes than -1 votes. That typically 
means the vote passes, so UIMA can release.


Right the vote runs for more than 72 hours and we have 3 +1 votes and 
one -1 vote.


The other open issue was the checksum representation for MD5 and SHA1. 
The representation can be improved and we will do this for the next release.
(I already opened a JIRA issue for that). It is just open what we have 
to do for the current release.


-- Michael



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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-18 Thread Martijn Dashorst
For the record, +1 for releasing from me.
Martijn

On Dec 18, 2007 1:16 PM, Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Dec 18, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
  On Dec 18, 2007 10:37 AM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ...So it is a new requirement and I don't think we should be
  making up policy
  during a release vote

 +1, that's even part of the policy! It is just *so* annoying that
 this keeps happening.

  like this as it makes it very frustrating for
  poddling. How about letting this UIMA release out as-is for now
  while we
  work this out?...

 Yup. It always gets fuzzy when voting and discussion intermix, but I
 do count 3 +1 votes and more +1 votes than -1 votes. That typically
 means the vote passes, so UIMA can release.

 - Leo


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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Dec 18, 2007 3:11 PM, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For the record, +1 for releasing from me.

+0 from me for now: from discussions here I feel like everything's
fine, but lack the time to check the release files myself ATM.

-Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-18 Thread sebb
On 18/12/2007, Michael Baessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Leo Simons wrote:
  On Dec 18, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
  On Dec 18, 2007 10:37 AM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ...So it is a new requirement and I don't think we should be making
  up policy
  during a release vote
 
  +1, that's even part of the policy! It is just *so* annoying that this
  keeps happening.
 
  like this as it makes it very frustrating for
  poddling. How about letting this UIMA release out as-is for now
  while we
  work this out?...
 
  Yup. It always gets fuzzy when voting and discussion intermix, but I
  do count 3 +1 votes and more +1 votes than -1 votes. That typically
  means the vote passes, so UIMA can release.
 
 Right the vote runs for more than 72 hours and we have 3 +1 votes and
 one -1 vote.

 The other open issue was the checksum representation for MD5 and SHA1.
 The representation can be improved and we will do this for the next release.
 (I already opened a JIRA issue for that). It is just open what we have
 to do for the current release.

I've created reformatted versions for the src and bin archives in:

http://people.apache.org/~sebb/UIMA/

in case that helps.

I've not fixed the Maven hashes.

I don't know whether the Maven hash-checking can cope with the format
or not - and does it ignore hash files with incorrect format or what?
If it does not handle the format properly, this could cause download
problems.

 -- Michael



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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-18 Thread Thilo Goetz
sebb wrote:
 On 18/12/2007, Michael Baessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Leo Simons wrote:
 On Dec 18, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
 On Dec 18, 2007 10:37 AM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...So it is a new requirement and I don't think we should be making
 up policy
 during a release vote
 +1, that's even part of the policy! It is just *so* annoying that this
 keeps happening.

 like this as it makes it very frustrating for
 poddling. How about letting this UIMA release out as-is for now
 while we
 work this out?...
 Yup. It always gets fuzzy when voting and discussion intermix, but I
 do count 3 +1 votes and more +1 votes than -1 votes. That typically
 means the vote passes, so UIMA can release.

 Right the vote runs for more than 72 hours and we have 3 +1 votes and
 one -1 vote.

 The other open issue was the checksum representation for MD5 and SHA1.
 The representation can be improved and we will do this for the next release.
 (I already opened a JIRA issue for that). It is just open what we have
 to do for the current release.
 
 I've created reformatted versions for the src and bin archives in:
 
 http://people.apache.org/~sebb/UIMA/
 
 in case that helps.

Thanks!

 
 I've not fixed the Maven hashes.
 
 I don't know whether the Maven hash-checking can cope with the format
 or not - and does it ignore hash files with incorrect format or what?
 If it does not handle the format properly, this could cause download
 problems.

The hashes for the maven artifacts are generated by maven, in the format
that maven wants them.  There should be no problem, there hasn't been in
the past.

--Thilo


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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-18 Thread sebb
On 18/12/2007, Thilo Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 sebb wrote:
  On 18/12/2007, Michael Baessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Leo Simons wrote:
  On Dec 18, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
  On Dec 18, 2007 10:37 AM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ...So it is a new requirement and I don't think we should be making
  up policy
  during a release vote
  +1, that's even part of the policy! It is just *so* annoying that this
  keeps happening.
 
  like this as it makes it very frustrating for
  poddling. How about letting this UIMA release out as-is for now
  while we
  work this out?...
  Yup. It always gets fuzzy when voting and discussion intermix, but I
  do count 3 +1 votes and more +1 votes than -1 votes. That typically
  means the vote passes, so UIMA can release.
 
  Right the vote runs for more than 72 hours and we have 3 +1 votes and
  one -1 vote.
 
  The other open issue was the checksum representation for MD5 and SHA1.
  The representation can be improved and we will do this for the next 
  release.
  (I already opened a JIRA issue for that). It is just open what we have
  to do for the current release.
 
  I've created reformatted versions for the src and bin archives in:
 
  http://people.apache.org/~sebb/UIMA/
 
  in case that helps.

 Thanks!

 
  I've not fixed the Maven hashes.
 
  I don't know whether the Maven hash-checking can cope with the format
  or not - and does it ignore hash files with incorrect format or what?
  If it does not handle the format properly, this could cause download
  problems.

 The hashes for the maven artifacts are generated by maven, in the format
 that maven wants them.  There should be no problem, there hasn't been in
 the past.

OK.

I thought I'd seen one with the different format, but I've just
rechecked one or two and they hold just the hash. Sorry for th
diversion.

That format would be fine as the bin and src archive hashes too.
Having the file name as well is only essential for a file containing
multiple hashes.

 --Thilo


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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-17 Thread Thilo Goetz
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
 Marshall Schor wrote:
 We've put the LICENSE, NOTICES, and DISCLAIMERs into the top directory
 of the source (and binary) distribution(s), but didn't realize this also
 needs to be in the top level of the SVN tag, because we didn't know that
 was considered part of the distribution.

 Can you please confirm this is the case?  In which case, we'll of course
 comply. 
 
 Your distribution must correspond to subversion, otherwise it's very hard
 to track the artifacts in the tarball, where they came from, how they
 got there, and if they underwent the proper oversight prior to packaging.
 (Yes, we vote on the prepared tarball, but you can see how discrepancies
 do create questions.)

That's not how I interpret the policy document.  It says:

To apply the ALv2 to a new software distribution, include one copy of the 
license text by copying
the file:

http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt

into a file called LICENSE in the top directory of your distribution. If the 
distribution is a jar
or tar file, try to add the LICENSE file first in order to place it at the top 
of the archive.

That's what we do.  Of course we'll make every effort to make
our distribution easy to review.  However, it does seem that
we're ok wrt current policy, and view this as a suggestion
for next time.  Ok?

--Thilo


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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-17 Thread Thilo Goetz
sebb wrote:
 On 15/12/2007, Jean T. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 sebb wrote:
 [Eventually found the KEYS file in SVN, but it might be helpful to
 provide a pointer in the vote mails]


 yeah, I went to their website and followed the link from there.
 
 So did I.
 
 The NOTICE file in uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.zip refers to the
 contributions from IBM:

 Software Grant License Agreement, informally known as the
 IBM UIMA License Agreement.

 however, that license is not in LICENSE, nor is it linked from there.


 this wording was approved in their first release -- iirc there were
 discussions about what specifically to put there [1] and I had a minor
 hand in that since they had borrowed wording from derby [2].
 
 I'm not objecting to the wording in the NOTICE file.
 However, since it refers to another license, I think that needs to be
 present in the LICENSE file:
 
 http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#distributing-code-under-several-licenses

We are not distributing code under several licenses.
The only license applicable to UIMA is the AL.  The
somewhat cryptic (to a non-lawyer) statement in the
NOTICE file was put there on request by the IPMC, we
didn't have it there originally.  To my way of thinking,
what it is supposed to say is that some of the code
originated with IBM, but has since been relicensed
under the Apache License.

This exact version of the NOTICE and LICENSE file has
been approved for our previous two releases, so I do
hope they are still ok.

--Thilo


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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-17 Thread Thilo Goetz
sebb wrote:
 [Eventually found the KEYS file in SVN, but it might be helpful to
 provide a pointer in the vote mails]

Good point, will do next time.

[...]
 
 There are some problems with the MD5 and SHA1 files.
 
 For example, uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.tar.bz2.md5:
 
 
 uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.tar.bz2: 53 20 6A FB 75 1F 07 9D  BB 12 82 58 D0 7D
 CA 4B
 
 
 The hash is spread over two lines and into hex pairs. The normal
 format is either:
 53206afb751f079dbb128258d07dca4b
 or
 53206afb751f079dbb128258d07dca4b *uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.tar.bz2
 
 The SHA1 checksums have the same problem.
 
 The PGP signatures are OK, however the format of the existing MD5/SHA1
 files means that most (all?) checking programs will have difficulty
 verifying the checksums.

We generate the checksums with

gpg --print-md MD5 [fileName]  [fileName].md5

and

gpg --print-md SHA1 [fileName]  [fileName].sha

respectively (as described in the release signing FAQ; however,
I suggested that text ;-).  The advantage of using gpg is that
you just need one tool for the various signatures.  If there
are alternatives, we'll be happy to entertain them (we use maven
as our build env).

Can you elaborate on what checking programs are commonly used?
It was my understanding that the primary signing mechanisms were
the PGP signatures, and the checksums were just for quick sanity
checks (visual verification, as they are so short).  Thanks.

--Thilo


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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Dec 17, 2007 10:09 AM, Thilo Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
  Marshall Schor wrote:
  We've put the LICENSE, NOTICES, and DISCLAIMERs into the top directory
  of the source (and binary) distribution(s), but didn't realize this also
  needs to be in the top level of the SVN tag

  Your distribution must correspond to subversion, otherwise it's very hard
  to track the artifacts in the tarball,...

 That's not how I interpret the policy document

You might be right about the letter of the policy document, but all
kinds of alarms go off in my brain when I see a distribution tarball
that doesn't match the SVN tag that it's built from.

Automated reproducible builds (including building distribution
archives) are IMHO a must in our way of working.

-Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-17 Thread Thilo Goetz
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
 On Dec 17, 2007 10:09 AM, Thilo Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
 Marshall Schor wrote:
 We've put the LICENSE, NOTICES, and DISCLAIMERs into the top directory
 of the source (and binary) distribution(s), but didn't realize this also
 needs to be in the top level of the SVN tag
 
 Your distribution must correspond to subversion, otherwise it's very hard
 to track the artifacts in the tarball,...
 
 That's not how I interpret the policy document
 
 You might be right about the letter of the policy document, but all
 kinds of alarms go off in my brain when I see a distribution tarball
 that doesn't match the SVN tag that it's built from.
 
 Automated reproducible builds (including building distribution
 archives) are IMHO a must in our way of working.

Absolutely.  Our build is completely automated and reproducible,
including generating the distribution.  Here's (a slightly simplified
version of) our build script:

svn checkout $tag
cd $leveldir/uimaj
mvn -Duima.build.date=`date` install
cd ..
cd uimaj-distr
mvn assembly:assembly

This does everything from svn extract to building the
release artifacts (except the signing, that requires
some manual intervention because of the release manager's
key phrase).  I don't think it gets much simpler
than that.

However, I don't think that addresses your concerns.
AIUI, you would like our repository to look exactly like
the source distribution.  Well, it almost is, except for
the files in the top level directory.  Those get copied
there when we build the distribution.  Why?  I guess
we thought it's cleaner that way, and complies with
maven's notion of organizing things.  For example,
the NOTICE file lives in uimaj-distr/src/main/readme.
It's still there in the source distribution, but it's
also at the top level.

Now if we absolutely must, we can change that.  I do
admit that I don't quite understand the reason, though,
and like it better the way it is ;-)

--Thilo

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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Dec 17, 2007 11:08 AM, Thilo Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
  ...Automated reproducible builds (including building distribution
  archives) are IMHO a must in our way of working.

 Absolutely.  Our build is completely automated and reproducible,
 including generating the distribution.  Here's (a slightly simplified
 version of) our build script:...

Ok sorry then, I misunderstood. I thought Marshall was saying that you
added the LICENSE/NOTICE files manually to the distribution archive
(please bear with me, it's Monday morning here ;-)

 ...However, I don't think that addresses your concerns.
 AIUI, you would like our repository to look exactly like
 the source distribution.  Well, it almost is, except for
 the files in the top level directory

That's ok with me, as the automated build recreates the same
distribution archive if run from the specified SVN tag.

-Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-17 Thread sebb
On 17/12/2007, Thilo Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 sebb wrote:
  On 15/12/2007, Jean T. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  sebb wrote:
  [Eventually found the KEYS file in SVN, but it might be helpful to
  provide a pointer in the vote mails]
 
 
  yeah, I went to their website and followed the link from there.
 
  So did I.
 
  The NOTICE file in uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.zip refers to the
  contributions from IBM:
 
  Software Grant License Agreement, informally known as the
  IBM UIMA License Agreement.
 
  however, that license is not in LICENSE, nor is it linked from there.
 
 
  this wording was approved in their first release -- iirc there were
  discussions about what specifically to put there [1] and I had a minor
  hand in that since they had borrowed wording from derby [2].
 
  I'm not objecting to the wording in the NOTICE file.
  However, since it refers to another license, I think that needs to be
  present in the LICENSE file:
 
  http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#distributing-code-under-several-licenses

 We are not distributing code under several licenses.
 The only license applicable to UIMA is the AL.  The
 somewhat cryptic (to a non-lawyer) statement in the
 NOTICE file was put there on request by the IPMC, we
 didn't have it there originally.  To my way of thinking,
 what it is supposed to say is that some of the code
 originated with IBM, but has since been relicensed
 under the Apache License.

Sorry, I misread the paragraph originally - I somehow managed to
overlook the phrase to the Apache Software Foundation and thought it
referred to a standard 3rd party attribution notice.

Apologies for the noise on this matter.

 This exact version of the NOTICE and LICENSE file has
 been approved for our previous two releases, so I do
 hope they are still ok.

Yes, it's my brian that needs adjusting in this case...

 --Thilo


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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-17 Thread sebb
On 17/12/2007, Thilo Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 sebb wrote:
  [Eventually found the KEYS file in SVN, but it might be helpful to
  provide a pointer in the vote mails]

 Good point, will do next time.

 [...]
 
  There are some problems with the MD5 and SHA1 files.
 
  For example, uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.tar.bz2.md5:
 
  
  uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.tar.bz2: 53 20 6A FB 75 1F 07 9D  BB 12 82 58 D0 
  7D
  CA 4B
  
 
  The hash is spread over two lines and into hex pairs. The normal
  format is either:
  53206afb751f079dbb128258d07dca4b
  or
  53206afb751f079dbb128258d07dca4b *uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.tar.bz2
 
  The SHA1 checksums have the same problem.
 
  The PGP signatures are OK, however the format of the existing MD5/SHA1
  files means that most (all?) checking programs will have difficulty
  verifying the checksums.

 We generate the checksums with

 gpg --print-md MD5 [fileName]  [fileName].md5

 and

 gpg --print-md SHA1 [fileName]  [fileName].sha

 respectively (as described in the release signing FAQ; however,
 I suggested that text ;-).  The advantage of using gpg is that
 you just need one tool for the various signatures.  If there
 are alternatives, we'll be happy to entertain them (we use maven
 as our build env).

Maven can generate the MD5 and SHA1 checksums itself; no need for a
separate tool.

I'm not familiar with Maven, so I don't know the commands off-hand,
but I can probably find them.

 Can you elaborate on what checking programs are commonly used?

The programs for checking MD5s are referenced from a lot of download
pages, for example:

http://xerces.apache.org/xerces-c/download.cgi
and
http://myfaces.apache.org/download.html

All of these expect checksums which are a single string of hex digits.

 It was my understanding that the primary signing mechanisms were
 the PGP signatures, and the checksums were just for quick sanity
 checks (visual verification, as they are so short).  Thanks.

Yes, PGP sigs are the primary signing mechanisms. MD5 and SHA1 are not
as secure. However they are still useful, particularly for checking
that the files have been downloaded successfully. To that end, having
a format that can be automatically checked is essential.

 --Thilo


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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-17 Thread Thilo Goetz
sebb wrote:
[...]
 Maven can generate the MD5 and SHA1 checksums itself; no need for a
 separate tool.
 
 I'm not familiar with Maven, so I don't know the commands off-hand,
 but I can probably find them.

Maybe it can, but I was unable to figure out how.

We need to create checksums for the artifacts
that fall out of the assembly step, and I don't
think maven supports creating those.

However, Ant can create checksums in the expected
format.  So we can call an Ant task from Maven
to do this.

For the purposes of this vote, would it be ok to
just modify the existing .md5 and .sha1 files?
I would prefer not having to create another release
candidate just for that purpose.

--Thilo




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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-17 Thread Kevan Miller


On Dec 17, 2007, at 4:09 AM, Thilo Goetz wrote:


William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:

Marshall Schor wrote:
We've put the LICENSE, NOTICES, and DISCLAIMERs into the top  
directory
of the source (and binary) distribution(s), but didn't realize  
this also
needs to be in the top level of the SVN tag, because we didn't  
know that

was considered part of the distribution.

Can you please confirm this is the case?  In which case, we'll of  
course

comply.


Your distribution must correspond to subversion, otherwise it's  
very hard

to track the artifacts in the tarball, where they came from, how they
got there, and if they underwent the proper oversight prior to  
packaging.
(Yes, we vote on the prepared tarball, but you can see how  
discrepancies

do create questions.)


That's not how I interpret the policy document.  It says:

To apply the ALv2 to a new software distribution, include one copy  
of the license text by copying

the file:

http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt

into a file called LICENSE in the top directory of your  
distribution. If the distribution is a jar
or tar file, try to add the LICENSE file first in order to place it  
at the top of the archive.


That's what we do.  Of course we'll make every effort to make
our distribution easy to review.  However, it does seem that
we're ok wrt current policy, and view this as a suggestion
for next time.  Ok?


Your interpretation works if your subversion repository is not a  
distribution. IMO, it is and should contain appropriate license/ 
notice/disclaimer.


--kevan

Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-17 Thread Thilo Goetz
Kevan Miller wrote:
 
 On Dec 17, 2007, at 4:09 AM, Thilo Goetz wrote:
 
 William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
 Marshall Schor wrote:
 We've put the LICENSE, NOTICES, and DISCLAIMERs into the top directory
 of the source (and binary) distribution(s), but didn't realize this
 also
 needs to be in the top level of the SVN tag, because we didn't know
 that
 was considered part of the distribution.

 Can you please confirm this is the case?  In which case, we'll of
 course
 comply.

 Your distribution must correspond to subversion, otherwise it's very
 hard
 to track the artifacts in the tarball, where they came from, how they
 got there, and if they underwent the proper oversight prior to
 packaging.
 (Yes, we vote on the prepared tarball, but you can see how discrepancies
 do create questions.)

 That's not how I interpret the policy document.  It says:

 To apply the ALv2 to a new software distribution, include one copy of
 the license text by copying
 the file:

 http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt

 into a file called LICENSE in the top directory of your distribution.
 If the distribution is a jar
 or tar file, try to add the LICENSE file first in order to place it at
 the top of the archive.

 That's what we do.  Of course we'll make every effort to make
 our distribution easy to review.  However, it does seem that
 we're ok wrt current policy, and view this as a suggestion
 for next time.  Ok?
 
 Your interpretation works if your subversion repository is not a
 distribution. IMO, it is and should contain appropriate
 license/notice/disclaimer.

If that is the consensus opinion here, that's what we'll
do.  But please put yourself in our shoes.  We can only go
by the information that is available to us.  If this is a
rule, it would be great if it could be written down so the
next incubator project doesn't have to go through this.  I'd
be happy to help with the docs.

Out of curiosity, I started going through the Apache SVN repo
to see what Apache projects complied with this requirement.  I
stopped after C because I'd already found 4 that didn't
comply: Avalon, Cayenne, Cocoon and Commons.  Compliant
were Activemq, Ant, APR and Beehive.

--Thilo


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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-17 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Though I don't necessarily agree with Kevan, the best projects to look at
are recently graduated projects as those have been scrutinized by the IPMC,
and have been held against the same (though possibly changing) standards as
you.
For instance you could take a look at Wicket, OpenJPA, ServiceMix, Ode,
Roller and Felix.

Martijn

On Dec 17, 2007 6:44 PM, Thilo Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kevan Miller wrote:
 
  On Dec 17, 2007, at 4:09 AM, Thilo Goetz wrote:
 
  William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
  Marshall Schor wrote:
  We've put the LICENSE, NOTICES, and DISCLAIMERs into the top
 directory
  of the source (and binary) distribution(s), but didn't realize this
  also
  needs to be in the top level of the SVN tag, because we didn't know
  that
  was considered part of the distribution.
 
  Can you please confirm this is the case?  In which case, we'll of
  course
  comply.
 
  Your distribution must correspond to subversion, otherwise it's very
  hard
  to track the artifacts in the tarball, where they came from, how they
  got there, and if they underwent the proper oversight prior to
  packaging.
  (Yes, we vote on the prepared tarball, but you can see how
 discrepancies
  do create questions.)
 
  That's not how I interpret the policy document.  It says:
 
  To apply the ALv2 to a new software distribution, include one copy of
  the license text by copying
  the file:
 
  http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt
 
  into a file called LICENSE in the top directory of your distribution.
  If the distribution is a jar
  or tar file, try to add the LICENSE file first in order to place it at
  the top of the archive.
 
  That's what we do.  Of course we'll make every effort to make
  our distribution easy to review.  However, it does seem that
  we're ok wrt current policy, and view this as a suggestion
  for next time.  Ok?
 
  Your interpretation works if your subversion repository is not a
  distribution. IMO, it is and should contain appropriate
  license/notice/disclaimer.

 If that is the consensus opinion here, that's what we'll
 do.  But please put yourself in our shoes.  We can only go
 by the information that is available to us.  If this is a
 rule, it would be great if it could be written down so the
 next incubator project doesn't have to go through this.  I'd
 be happy to help with the docs.

 Out of curiosity, I started going through the Apache SVN repo
 to see what Apache projects complied with this requirement.  I
 stopped after C because I'd already found 4 that didn't
 comply: Avalon, Cayenne, Cocoon and Commons.  Compliant
 were Activemq, Ant, APR and Beehive.

 --Thilo


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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-17 Thread sebb
On 17/12/2007, Thilo Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kevan Miller wrote:
 
  On Dec 17, 2007, at 4:09 AM, Thilo Goetz wrote:
 
  William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
  Marshall Schor wrote:
  We've put the LICENSE, NOTICES, and DISCLAIMERs into the top directory
  of the source (and binary) distribution(s), but didn't realize this
  also
  needs to be in the top level of the SVN tag, because we didn't know
  that
  was considered part of the distribution.
 
  Can you please confirm this is the case?  In which case, we'll of
  course
  comply.
 
  Your distribution must correspond to subversion, otherwise it's very
  hard
  to track the artifacts in the tarball, where they came from, how they
  got there, and if they underwent the proper oversight prior to
  packaging.
  (Yes, we vote on the prepared tarball, but you can see how discrepancies
  do create questions.)
 
  That's not how I interpret the policy document.  It says:
 
  To apply the ALv2 to a new software distribution, include one copy of
  the license text by copying
  the file:
 
  http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt
 
  into a file called LICENSE in the top directory of your distribution.
  If the distribution is a jar
  or tar file, try to add the LICENSE file first in order to place it at
  the top of the archive.
 
  That's what we do.  Of course we'll make every effort to make
  our distribution easy to review.  However, it does seem that
  we're ok wrt current policy, and view this as a suggestion
  for next time.  Ok?
 
  Your interpretation works if your subversion repository is not a
  distribution. IMO, it is and should contain appropriate
  license/notice/disclaimer.

 If that is the consensus opinion here, that's what we'll
 do.  But please put yourself in our shoes.  We can only go
 by the information that is available to us.  If this is a
 rule, it would be great if it could be written down so the
 next incubator project doesn't have to go through this.  I'd
 be happy to help with the docs.

 Out of curiosity, I started going through the Apache SVN repo
 to see what Apache projects complied with this requirement.  I
 stopped after C because I'd already found 4 that didn't
 comply: Avalon, Cayenne, Cocoon and Commons.

Avalon is defunct, so does not count.

Commons looks OK to me; there are NL files in

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/attributes/trunk/
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/commons-build/trunk/
and
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/vfs/trunk/

to take a few at random

The top-level directory:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/
is not a project - see the README for details.

I agree that Cayenne and Cocoon are non-compliant.

 Compliant
 were Activemq, Ant, APR and Beehive.

 --Thilo


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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-17 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Dec 17, 2007 5:49 PM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Your interpretation works if your subversion repository is not a
 distribution. IMO, it is and should contain appropriate license/
 notice/disclaimer.


I don't agree with this standpoint as for instance the LICENSE and
DISCLAIMER docs can be automatically included into the correct distribution
location from officially released bundles. This makes much more sense as it
keeps the definition of those documents in one place. This process is
repeatable using maven.
IMO SVN does not have to mirror an unzipped release (there is no policy
directing that, or if there is, please provide a link), as long as it is
reproducible from the release tag.

Martijn

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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-17 Thread sebb
On 17/12/2007, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Dec 17, 2007 5:49 PM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Your interpretation works if your subversion repository is not a
  distribution. IMO, it is and should contain appropriate license/
  notice/disclaimer.
 

I agree with Kevan.

 I don't agree with this standpoint as for instance the LICENSE and
 DISCLAIMER docs can be automatically included into the correct distribution
 location from officially released bundles. This makes much more sense as it
 keeps the definition of those documents in one place. This process is
 repeatable using maven.
 IMO SVN does not have to mirror an unzipped release (there is no policy
 directing that, or if there is, please provide a link), as long as it is
 reproducible from the release tag.


I have asked about this on the legal discuss list.

Regardless of the outcome, I think that there are problems with
generating the NOTICE and LICENSE files automatically. Unless the
project is pure ASF, there are additional items that may need to be
added to the N   L files. In any case, I think it's important that
these files are carefully considered to ensure that the required
entries are present. This is difficult if not impossible if the
contents of the N  L files are automatically generated.

The N  L files are unlikely to change frequently, so it really does
not save much work (if any) to create them by hand. Having them in the
top-level SVN directory seems sensible to me.

 Martijn

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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-17 Thread Marshall Schor
sebb wrote:
 On 17/12/2007, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 On Dec 17, 2007 5:49 PM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Your interpretation works if your subversion repository is not a
 distribution. IMO, it is and should contain appropriate license/
 notice/disclaimer.

   

 I agree with Kevan.

   
 I don't agree with this standpoint as for instance the LICENSE and
 DISCLAIMER docs can be automatically included into the correct distribution
 location from officially released bundles. This makes much more sense as it
 keeps the definition of those documents in one place. This process is
 repeatable using maven.
 IMO SVN does not have to mirror an unzipped release (there is no policy
 directing that, or if there is, please provide a link), as long as it is
 reproducible from the release tag.

 

 I have asked about this on the legal discuss list.

 Regardless of the outcome, I think that there are problems with
 generating the NOTICE and LICENSE files automatically. Unless the
 project is pure ASF, there are additional items that may need to be
 added to the N   L files. In any case, I think it's important that
 these files are carefully considered to ensure that the required
 entries are present. This is difficult if not impossible if the
 contents of the N  L files are automatically generated.
   
Just to be clear, in the case of UIMA, these files are *not* being
generated (that is, their contents are not being generated) automatically.

The only thing that is happening is that our automated build process for
building the binary and source distributions from our SVN has a step
which copies these files from where they reside in our SVN to the top
level, as required in the distribution.

 The N  L files are unlikely to change frequently, so it really does
 not save much work (if any) to create them by hand. Having them in the
 top-level SVN directory seems sensible to me.
   
The tools we use for development (Eclipse, mainly) like to have files in
projects; we have adopted an organization where our SVN follows this
convention.  So, for us, it is more convenient to have these files in
SVN inside one of our Eclipse projects, where we can then use the
standard tooling for maintaining them.

-Marshall
   
 Martijn

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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-17 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Dec 17, 2007 10:17 PM, sebb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Regardless of the outcome, I think that there are problems with
 generating the NOTICE and LICENSE files automatically. Unless the
 project is pure ASF, there are additional items that may need to be
 added to the N   L files. In any case, I think it's important that
 these files are carefully considered to ensure that the required
 entries are present. This is difficult if not impossible if the
 contents of the N  L files are automatically generated.


Generating those files based on some knowledge of the project is something
that SHOULD be allowed. For instance, the Wicket project generates the root
NOTICE file from sub projects' notice files inside the source tree. This
generated file is distributed inside our tar balls and zip files. The same
strategy can be applied to the license file. The reason being that
dependencies are typically managed at a local level in a multi-module
project. Administering the NOTICE and LICENSE files locally is more
convenient and less likely to get out of date than putting everything in a
central file by hand. (As an aside, Wicket does store the generated files in
a separate release branch in the svn repo, but not in the root of trunk).

The question is not about wether generating these files is good or not. It
is whether svn MUST mirror the released artifact. In my opinion that is not
the case: building the distribution should be reproducible based on the
release tag. How projects implement that is their prerogative. As incubator
we don't have to prescribe these minutiae, but provide oversight on actual
distributed artifacts. These are the zips and tarballs our podlings provide.
IMO dictating a release procedure is stepping across the boundaries of what
a podling/project can evolve themselves.

The N  L files are unlikely to change frequently, so it really does
 not save much work (if any) to create them by hand. Having them in the
 top-level SVN directory seems sensible to me.


But sensible does not policy make: I find it sensible to use maven for
building a release, but I wouldn't turn that into policy.

Martijn

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[DISCUSS] [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-16 Thread Jean T. Anderson

sebb wrote:

On 15/12/2007, Jean T. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

sebb wrote:



The NOTICE file in uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.zip refers to the
contributions from IBM:

Software Grant License Agreement, informally known as the
IBM UIMA License Agreement.

however, that license is not in LICENSE, nor is it linked from there.
  

this wording was approved in their first release -- iirc there were
discussions about what specifically to put there [1] and I had a minor
hand in that since they had borrowed wording from derby [2].


I'm not objecting to the wording in the NOTICE file.
However, since it refers to another license, I think that needs to be
present in the LICENSE file:

http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#distributing-code-under-several-licenses

  


The software grant license agreement to which it refers is this :

http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt

I assumed that when outside entities file software grants they always 
use the software-grant.txt form (or CCLA addendum B in 
cla-corporate.txt),  but I'm probably wrong about that.


For this release, I don't think anything needs to be done. Perhaps a 
broader issue is how apache projects as a whole should reference the 
code drops that come in via a software grant -- or if it's even 
necessary to do so since the original copyright is in the NOTICE file. 
Perhaps that's sufficient?


-jean



 -jean

[1] http://tinyurl.com/2jncrq
[2] http://tinyurl.com/3bdz9n



There are some problems with the MD5 and SHA1 files.

For example, uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.tar.bz2.md5:


uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.tar.bz2: 53 20 6A FB 75 1F 07 9D  BB 12 82 58 D0 7D
CA 4B


The hash is spread over two lines and into hex pairs. The normal
format is either:
53206afb751f079dbb128258d07dca4b
or
53206afb751f079dbb128258d07dca4b *uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.tar.bz2

The SHA1 checksums have the same problem.

The PGP signatures are OK, however the format of the existing MD5/SHA1
files means that most (all?) checking programs will have difficulty
verifying the checksums.

I think these problems need to be corrected before release (if
necessary by editting the files)

On 15/12/2007, Jean T. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

I reviewed the rat reports, checked the asc signatures, did a cursory
review of DISCLAIMER, NOTICE, and LICENSE files in a couple of the src
and bin files, and it all looks good to me.

+1

btw, the way you provide the rat reports up front is *very* helpful.

 -jean


Michael Baessler wrote:



The Apache UIMA committers ask the Apache Incubator PMC for permission
to publish a new bug fix release of Apache UIMA. This release contains
bug fixes of the Apache UIMA 2.2.0 release published in August 2007.
For details about the fixes, please have a look at the release notes.

We had a vote on uima-dev that resulted in 6 binding +1s
(all the committers) and no 0s or -1s.  The vote thread
is here:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-uima-dev/200712.mbox/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]


Please review the release candidate here:
http://people.apache.org/~mbaessler/uimaj-2.2.1/06/

There are subdirectories like:
/bin - that contains the binary distribution files
/src - that contains the source distribution files
/rat - that contains the RAT reports (using RAT 0.5.1) with some
comments /eclipseUpdateSite - that contains the eclipse update site
artifacts
/maven - that contains the Maven artifacts we would like to release to
the incubator repository

The SVN tag for this release candidate is:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/uima/uimaj/tags/uimaj-2.2.1/uimaj-2.2.1-06


Please vote:
[ ] +1  Accept to release Apache UIMA 2.2.1
[ ] -1  No, because

Thanks!

-- Michael



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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-16 Thread ant elder
On Dec 15, 2007 9:21 PM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Dec 15, 2007, at 1:43 PM, sebb wrote:

  [Eventually found the KEYS file in SVN, but it might be helpful to
  provide a pointer in the vote mails]
 
  The NOTICE file in uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.zip refers to the
  contributions from IBM:
 
  Software Grant License Agreement, informally known as the
  IBM UIMA License Agreement.
 
  however, that license is not in LICENSE, nor is it linked from there.

 The code covered by that software grant would now be covered by the
 Apache License. I would not expect to find the software grant
 agreement in the license text/files. Haven't looked into the hash/
 checksum issues...

 On further review, I am changing my vote to a -1.

 The source code in svn (
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/uima/uimaj/tags/uimaj-2.2.1/uimaj-2.2.1-06
 ) does not contain a LICENSE, NOTICE, and DISCLAIMER file in the top
 directory. Refer to http://apache.org/dev/apply-license.html if you
 have any questions.

 --kevan


That seems a little harsh to me and with some build setups its easier to
keep the legal files in a different location. AIUI its only that actual
distribution archives which MUST have the legal files in the top level
folder.

   ...ant


Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-15 Thread Jean T. Anderson
I reviewed the rat reports, checked the asc signatures, did a cursory 
review of DISCLAIMER, NOTICE, and LICENSE files in a couple of the src 
and bin files, and it all looks good to me.


+1

btw, the way you provide the rat reports up front is *very* helpful.

-jean


Michael Baessler wrote:
The Apache UIMA committers ask the Apache Incubator PMC for permission 
to publish a new bug fix release of Apache UIMA. This release contains 
bug fixes of the Apache UIMA 2.2.0 release published in August 2007. 
For details about the fixes, please have a look at the release notes.


We had a vote on uima-dev that resulted in 6 binding +1s
(all the committers) and no 0s or -1s.  The vote thread
is here:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-uima-dev/200712.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Please review the release candidate here:
http://people.apache.org/~mbaessler/uimaj-2.2.1/06/

There are subdirectories like:
/bin - that contains the binary distribution files
/src - that contains the source distribution files
/rat - that contains the RAT reports (using RAT 0.5.1) with some 
comments /eclipseUpdateSite - that contains the eclipse update site 
artifacts
/maven - that contains the Maven artifacts we would like to release to 
the incubator repository


The SVN tag for this release candidate is:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/uima/uimaj/tags/uimaj-2.2.1/uimaj-2.2.1-06 



Please vote:
[ ] +1  Accept to release Apache UIMA 2.2.1
[ ] -1  No, because

Thanks!

-- Michael



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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-15 Thread sebb
[Eventually found the KEYS file in SVN, but it might be helpful to
provide a pointer in the vote mails]

The NOTICE file in uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.zip refers to the
contributions from IBM:

Software Grant License Agreement, informally known as the
IBM UIMA License Agreement.

however, that license is not in LICENSE, nor is it linked from there.

There are some problems with the MD5 and SHA1 files.

For example, uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.tar.bz2.md5:


uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.tar.bz2: 53 20 6A FB 75 1F 07 9D  BB 12 82 58 D0 7D
CA 4B


The hash is spread over two lines and into hex pairs. The normal
format is either:
53206afb751f079dbb128258d07dca4b
or
53206afb751f079dbb128258d07dca4b *uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.tar.bz2

The SHA1 checksums have the same problem.

The PGP signatures are OK, however the format of the existing MD5/SHA1
files means that most (all?) checking programs will have difficulty
verifying the checksums.

I think these problems need to be corrected before release (if
necessary by editting the files)

On 15/12/2007, Jean T. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I reviewed the rat reports, checked the asc signatures, did a cursory
 review of DISCLAIMER, NOTICE, and LICENSE files in a couple of the src
 and bin files, and it all looks good to me.

 +1

 btw, the way you provide the rat reports up front is *very* helpful.

  -jean


 Michael Baessler wrote:
  The Apache UIMA committers ask the Apache Incubator PMC for permission
  to publish a new bug fix release of Apache UIMA. This release contains
  bug fixes of the Apache UIMA 2.2.0 release published in August 2007.
  For details about the fixes, please have a look at the release notes.
 
  We had a vote on uima-dev that resulted in 6 binding +1s
  (all the committers) and no 0s or -1s.  The vote thread
  is here:
  http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-uima-dev/200712.mbox/[EMAIL
   PROTECTED]
 
 
  Please review the release candidate here:
  http://people.apache.org/~mbaessler/uimaj-2.2.1/06/
 
  There are subdirectories like:
  /bin - that contains the binary distribution files
  /src - that contains the source distribution files
  /rat - that contains the RAT reports (using RAT 0.5.1) with some
  comments /eclipseUpdateSite - that contains the eclipse update site
  artifacts
  /maven - that contains the Maven artifacts we would like to release to
  the incubator repository
 
  The SVN tag for this release candidate is:
  https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/uima/uimaj/tags/uimaj-2.2.1/uimaj-2.2.1-06
 
 
  Please vote:
  [ ] +1  Accept to release Apache UIMA 2.2.1
  [ ] -1  No, because
 
  Thanks!
 
  -- Michael
 
 
 
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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-15 Thread Kevan Miller


On Dec 15, 2007, at 1:43 PM, sebb wrote:


[Eventually found the KEYS file in SVN, but it might be helpful to
provide a pointer in the vote mails]

The NOTICE file in uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.zip refers to the
contributions from IBM:

Software Grant License Agreement, informally known as the
IBM UIMA License Agreement.

however, that license is not in LICENSE, nor is it linked from there.


The code covered by that software grant would now be covered by the  
Apache License. I would not expect to find the software grant  
agreement in the license text/files. Haven't looked into the hash/ 
checksum issues...


On further review, I am changing my vote to a -1.

The source code in svn (https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/uima/uimaj/tags/uimaj-2.2.1/uimaj-2.2.1-06 
) does not contain a LICENSE, NOTICE, and DISCLAIMER file in the top  
directory. Refer to http://apache.org/dev/apply-license.html if you  
have any questions.


--kevan

Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-15 Thread Jean T. Anderson

sebb wrote:

[Eventually found the KEYS file in SVN, but it might be helpful to
provide a pointer in the vote mails]

  

yeah, I went to their website and followed the link from there.

The NOTICE file in uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.zip refers to the
contributions from IBM:

Software Grant License Agreement, informally known as the
IBM UIMA License Agreement.

however, that license is not in LICENSE, nor is it linked from there.

  
this wording was approved in their first release -- iirc there were 
discussions about what specifically to put there [1] and I had a minor 
hand in that since they had borrowed wording from derby [2].


-jean

[1] http://tinyurl.com/2jncrq
[2] http://tinyurl.com/3bdz9n


There are some problems with the MD5 and SHA1 files.

For example, uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.tar.bz2.md5:


uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.tar.bz2: 53 20 6A FB 75 1F 07 9D  BB 12 82 58 D0 7D
CA 4B


The hash is spread over two lines and into hex pairs. The normal
format is either:
53206afb751f079dbb128258d07dca4b
or
53206afb751f079dbb128258d07dca4b *uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.tar.bz2

The SHA1 checksums have the same problem.

The PGP signatures are OK, however the format of the existing MD5/SHA1
files means that most (all?) checking programs will have difficulty
verifying the checksums.

I think these problems need to be corrected before release (if
necessary by editting the files)

On 15/12/2007, Jean T. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I reviewed the rat reports, checked the asc signatures, did a cursory
review of DISCLAIMER, NOTICE, and LICENSE files in a couple of the src
and bin files, and it all looks good to me.

+1

btw, the way you provide the rat reports up front is *very* helpful.

 -jean


Michael Baessler wrote:


The Apache UIMA committers ask the Apache Incubator PMC for permission
to publish a new bug fix release of Apache UIMA. This release contains
bug fixes of the Apache UIMA 2.2.0 release published in August 2007.
For details about the fixes, please have a look at the release notes.

We had a vote on uima-dev that resulted in 6 binding +1s
(all the committers) and no 0s or -1s.  The vote thread
is here:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-uima-dev/200712.mbox/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]


Please review the release candidate here:
http://people.apache.org/~mbaessler/uimaj-2.2.1/06/

There are subdirectories like:
/bin - that contains the binary distribution files
/src - that contains the source distribution files
/rat - that contains the RAT reports (using RAT 0.5.1) with some
comments /eclipseUpdateSite - that contains the eclipse update site
artifacts
/maven - that contains the Maven artifacts we would like to release to
the incubator repository

The SVN tag for this release candidate is:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/uima/uimaj/tags/uimaj-2.2.1/uimaj-2.2.1-06


Please vote:
[ ] +1  Accept to release Apache UIMA 2.2.1
[ ] -1  No, because

Thanks!

-- Michael



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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-15 Thread sebb
On 15/12/2007, Jean T. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 sebb wrote:
  [Eventually found the KEYS file in SVN, but it might be helpful to
  provide a pointer in the vote mails]
 
 
 yeah, I went to their website and followed the link from there.

So did I.

  The NOTICE file in uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.zip refers to the
  contributions from IBM:
 
  Software Grant License Agreement, informally known as the
  IBM UIMA License Agreement.
 
  however, that license is not in LICENSE, nor is it linked from there.
 
 
 this wording was approved in their first release -- iirc there were
 discussions about what specifically to put there [1] and I had a minor
 hand in that since they had borrowed wording from derby [2].

I'm not objecting to the wording in the NOTICE file.
However, since it refers to another license, I think that needs to be
present in the LICENSE file:

http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#distributing-code-under-several-licenses

  -jean

 [1] http://tinyurl.com/2jncrq
 [2] http://tinyurl.com/3bdz9n

  There are some problems with the MD5 and SHA1 files.
 
  For example, uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.tar.bz2.md5:
 
  
  uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.tar.bz2: 53 20 6A FB 75 1F 07 9D  BB 12 82 58 D0 
  7D
  CA 4B
  
 
  The hash is spread over two lines and into hex pairs. The normal
  format is either:
  53206afb751f079dbb128258d07dca4b
  or
  53206afb751f079dbb128258d07dca4b *uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.tar.bz2
 
  The SHA1 checksums have the same problem.
 
  The PGP signatures are OK, however the format of the existing MD5/SHA1
  files means that most (all?) checking programs will have difficulty
  verifying the checksums.
 
  I think these problems need to be corrected before release (if
  necessary by editting the files)
 
  On 15/12/2007, Jean T. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I reviewed the rat reports, checked the asc signatures, did a cursory
  review of DISCLAIMER, NOTICE, and LICENSE files in a couple of the src
  and bin files, and it all looks good to me.
 
  +1
 
  btw, the way you provide the rat reports up front is *very* helpful.
 
   -jean
 
 
  Michael Baessler wrote:
 
  The Apache UIMA committers ask the Apache Incubator PMC for permission
  to publish a new bug fix release of Apache UIMA. This release contains
  bug fixes of the Apache UIMA 2.2.0 release published in August 2007.
  For details about the fixes, please have a look at the release notes.
 
  We had a vote on uima-dev that resulted in 6 binding +1s
  (all the committers) and no 0s or -1s.  The vote thread
  is here:
  http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-uima-dev/200712.mbox/[EMAIL
   PROTECTED]
 
 
  Please review the release candidate here:
  http://people.apache.org/~mbaessler/uimaj-2.2.1/06/
 
  There are subdirectories like:
  /bin - that contains the binary distribution files
  /src - that contains the source distribution files
  /rat - that contains the RAT reports (using RAT 0.5.1) with some
  comments /eclipseUpdateSite - that contains the eclipse update site
  artifacts
  /maven - that contains the Maven artifacts we would like to release to
  the incubator repository
 
  The SVN tag for this release candidate is:
  https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/uima/uimaj/tags/uimaj-2.2.1/uimaj-2.2.1-06
 
 
  Please vote:
  [ ] +1  Accept to release Apache UIMA 2.2.1
  [ ] -1  No, because
 
  Thanks!
 
  -- Michael
 
 
 
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[DISCUSS][VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-15 Thread Jean T. Anderson

resend from an email that won't need moderation (sorry for the dup).

sebb wrote:
 On 15/12/2007, Jean T. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 sebb wrote:


 The NOTICE file in uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.zip refers to the
 contributions from IBM:

 Software Grant License Agreement, informally known as the
 IBM UIMA License Agreement.

 however, that license is not in LICENSE, nor is it linked from there.
  
 this wording was approved in their first release -- iirc there were

 discussions about what specifically to put there [1] and I had a minor
 hand in that since they had borrowed wording from derby [2].

 I'm not objecting to the wording in the NOTICE file.

 However, since it refers to another license, I think that needs to be
 present in the LICENSE file:

 
http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#distributing-code-under-several-licenses
 


The software grant license agreement to which it refers is this :

http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt

I assumed that when outside entities file software grants they always
use the software-grant.txt form (or CCLA addendum B in
cla-corporate.txt),  but I'm probably wrong about that.

For this release, I don't think anything needs to be done. Perhaps a
broader issue is how apache projects as a whole should reference the
code drops that come in via a software grant -- or if it's even
necessary to do so since the original copyright is in the NOTICE file.
Perhaps that's sufficient?

-jean


  -jean

 [1] http://tinyurl.com/2jncrq
 [2] http://tinyurl.com/3bdz9n

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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-15 Thread Marshall Schor
We've put the LICENSE, NOTICES, and DISCLAIMERs into the top directory
of the source (and binary) distribution(s), but didn't realize this also
needs to be in the top level of the SVN tag, because we didn't know that
was considered part of the distribution.

Can you please confirm this is the case?  In which case, we'll of course
comply. 

-Marshall

Kevan Miller wrote:

 On Dec 15, 2007, at 1:43 PM, sebb wrote:

 [Eventually found the KEYS file in SVN, but it might be helpful to
 provide a pointer in the vote mails]

 The NOTICE file in uimaj-2.2.1-incubating-bin.zip refers to the
 contributions from IBM:

 Software Grant License Agreement, informally known as the
 IBM UIMA License Agreement.

 however, that license is not in LICENSE, nor is it linked from there.

 The code covered by that software grant would now be covered by the
 Apache License. I would not expect to find the software grant
 agreement in the license text/files. Haven't looked into the
 hash/checksum issues...

 On further review, I am changing my vote to a -1.

 The source code in svn
 (https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/uima/uimaj/tags/uimaj-2.2.1/uimaj-2.2.1-06)
 does not contain a LICENSE, NOTICE, and DISCLAIMER file in the top
 directory. Refer to http://apache.org/dev/apply-license.html if you
 have any questions.

 --kevan


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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-15 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.

Marshall Schor wrote:

We've put the LICENSE, NOTICES, and DISCLAIMERs into the top directory
of the source (and binary) distribution(s), but didn't realize this also
needs to be in the top level of the SVN tag, because we didn't know that
was considered part of the distribution.

Can you please confirm this is the case?  In which case, we'll of course
comply. 


Your distribution must correspond to subversion, otherwise it's very hard
to track the artifacts in the tarball, where they came from, how they
got there, and if they underwent the proper oversight prior to packaging.
(Yes, we vote on the prepared tarball, but you can see how discrepancies
do create questions.)


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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-14 Thread Kevan Miller

+1

I looked at the rat reports and poked around the src and binaries. All  
looked good to me.


--kevan

On Dec 13, 2007, at 6:50 AM, Michael Baessler wrote:

The Apache UIMA committers ask the Apache Incubator PMC for  
permission to publish a new bug fix release of Apache UIMA. This  
release contains bug fixes of the Apache UIMA 2.2.0 release  
published in August 2007. For details about the fixes, please have a  
look at the release notes.


We had a vote on uima-dev that resulted in 6 binding +1s
(all the committers) and no 0s or -1s.  The vote thread
is here:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-uima-dev/200712.mbox/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

Please review the release candidate here:
http://people.apache.org/~mbaessler/uimaj-2.2.1/06/

There are subdirectories like:
/bin - that contains the binary distribution files
/src - that contains the source distribution files
/rat - that contains the RAT reports (using RAT 0.5.1) with some  
comments /eclipseUpdateSite - that contains the eclipse update site  
artifacts
/maven - that contains the Maven artifacts we would like to release  
to the incubator repository


The SVN tag for this release candidate is:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/uima/uimaj/tags/uimaj-2.2.1/uimaj-2.2.1-06

Please vote:
[ ] +1  Accept to release Apache UIMA 2.2.1
[ ] -1  No, because

Thanks!

-- Michael



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[VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-13 Thread Michael Baessler
The Apache UIMA committers ask the Apache Incubator PMC for 
permission to publish a new bug fix release of Apache UIMA. 
This release contains bug fixes of the Apache UIMA 2.2.0 release published in 
August 2007. For details about the fixes, please have a look at the 
release notes.


We had a vote on uima-dev that resulted in 6 binding +1s
(all the committers) and no 0s or -1s.  The vote thread
is here:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-uima-dev/200712.mbox/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

Please review the release candidate here:
http://people.apache.org/~mbaessler/uimaj-2.2.1/06/

There are subdirectories like:
/bin - that contains the binary distribution files
/src - that contains the source distribution files
/rat - that contains the RAT reports (using RAT 0.5.1) with some comments 
/eclipseUpdateSite - that contains the eclipse update site artifacts

/maven - that contains the Maven artifacts we would like to release to the 
incubator repository

The SVN tag for this release candidate is:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/uima/uimaj/tags/uimaj-2.2.1/uimaj-2.2.1-06

Please vote:
[ ] +1  Accept to release Apache UIMA 2.2.1
[ ] -1  No, because

Thanks!

-- Michael



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Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-13 Thread ant elder
On Dec 13, 2007 11:50 AM, Michael Baessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The Apache UIMA committers ask the Apache Incubator PMC for
 permission to publish a new bug fix release of Apache UIMA.
 This release contains bug fixes of the Apache UIMA 2.2.0 release published
 in
 August 2007. For details about the fixes, please have a look at the
 release notes.

 We had a vote on uima-dev that resulted in 6 binding +1s
 (all the committers) and no 0s or -1s.  The vote thread
 is here:

 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-uima-dev/200712.mbox/[EMAIL
  PROTECTED]

 Please review the release candidate here:
 http://people.apache.org/~mbaessler/uimaj-2.2.1/06/http://people.apache.org/%7Embaessler/uimaj-2.2.1/06/

 There are subdirectories like:
 /bin - that contains the binary distribution files
 /src - that contains the source distribution files
 /rat - that contains the RAT reports (using RAT 0.5.1) with some comments
 /eclipseUpdateSite - that contains the eclipse update site artifacts
 /maven - that contains the Maven artifacts we would like to release to the
 incubator repository

 The SVN tag for this release candidate is:

 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/uima/uimaj/tags/uimaj-2.2.1/uimaj-2.2.1-06

 Please vote:
 [ ] +1  Accept to release Apache UIMA 2.2.1
 [ ] -1  No, because

 Thanks!

 -- Michael


+1  this looks all fine to me.

i did wonder why the jVinci jar doesn't have a uima- prefix or use the
org.apache.uima package name but it looks fine in the maven repository so i
guess that doesn't matter.

   ...ant


Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-13 Thread Matthieu Riou
Looks good to me as well.

[X] +1  Accept to release Apache UIMA 2.2.1

Matthieu

On Dec 13, 2007 5:53 AM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Dec 13, 2007 11:50 AM, Michael Baessler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  The Apache UIMA committers ask the Apache Incubator PMC for
  permission to publish a new bug fix release of Apache UIMA.
  This release contains bug fixes of the Apache UIMA 2.2.0 release
 published
  in
  August 2007. For details about the fixes, please have a look at the
  release notes.
 
  We had a vote on uima-dev that resulted in 6 binding +1s
  (all the committers) and no 0s or -1s.  The vote thread
  is here:
 
 
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-uima-dev/200712.mbox/[EMAIL
  PROTECTED]
 
  Please review the release candidate here:
  http://people.apache.org/~mbaessler/uimaj-2.2.1/06/http://people.apache.org/%7Embaessler/uimaj-2.2.1/06/
 http://people.apache.org/%7Embaessler/uimaj-2.2.1/06/
 
  There are subdirectories like:
  /bin - that contains the binary distribution files
  /src - that contains the source distribution files
  /rat - that contains the RAT reports (using RAT 0.5.1) with some
 comments
  /eclipseUpdateSite - that contains the eclipse update site artifacts
  /maven - that contains the Maven artifacts we would like to release to
 the
  incubator repository
 
  The SVN tag for this release candidate is:
 
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/uima/uimaj/tags/uimaj-2.2.1/uimaj-2.2.1-06
 
  Please vote:
  [ ] +1  Accept to release Apache UIMA 2.2.1
  [ ] -1  No, because
 
  Thanks!
 
  -- Michael
 

 +1  this looks all fine to me.

 i did wonder why the jVinci jar doesn't have a uima- prefix or use the
 org.apache.uima package name but it looks fine in the maven repository so
 i
 guess that doesn't matter.

   ...ant