Re: [VOTE] Enable Release Checklist Experiment

2013-12-17 Thread Christian Grobmeier

+1, good job.

On 13 Dec 2013, at 21:59, Marvin Humphrey wrote:


Greetings,

As the next step in our ongoing efforts to reform the release voting 
process,
I propose that we run an experiment allowing the PPMC members of 
select
podlings to earn binding votes under limited circumstances by 
completing a

release checklist.

For participating podlings, the Incubator's release management 
guide...


 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html

... would be supplanted by the following documents:

 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release_manifest.txt
 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release.html

The scope of this VOTE is limited to approving the following patch to 
our

policy page:

 https://paste.apache.org/k4vJ

Here is the patch content minus markup:

 2013 Alternate Release Voting Process

 Select podlings pre-cleared by a majority vote of the IPMC MAY
participate in
 an alternate release voting process:

 Should a Podling decide it wishes to perform a release, the Podling 
SHALL
 hold a vote on the Podling's dev list and create a permanently 
archived
 Release Manifest as described in the Experimental Release Guide.  At 
least

 three +1 votes from PPMC members are required (see the Apache Voting
 Process page).  If the majority of PPMC votes is positive, then the 
Podling

 SHALL send a summary of that vote to the Incubator's general list and
 formally request the Incubator PMC approve such a release.

 Formal approval requires three binding +1 votes and more positive 
than
 negative votes.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are 
always

 binding.  For all releases after the first, votes cast by members
of the PPMC
 are binding if a Mentor approves the Release Manifest.

Please note that the proposed change is both incremental and 
reversible:


*   It is incremental because podlings must be opted in by vote of the 
IPMC to

 participate.
*   It is reversible because once the experiment has run its course 
the
 policy change can be reverted with zero impact through lazy 
consensus.


Those who may have questions about the legitimacy of allowing binding 
votes

from non-IPMC members should see this post from Roy Fielding:

 http://s.apache.org/v7

Please vote:

[ ] +1 Yes, apply the patch enabling the experiment.
[ ] -1 No, do not apply the patch enabling the experiment.

This majority VOTE will run for 7 days and will close at 13:00 PST on 
Friday,
December 20, 2013.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are 
binding.


Here is my own +1.

Marvin Humphrey

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Re: [VOTE] Enable Release Checklist Experiment

2013-12-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
 [X ] +1 Yes, apply the patch enabling the experiment.

-Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] Enable Release Checklist Experiment

2013-12-16 Thread ant elder
Obviously +1 from me on doing experiments, and -1 for the silly policy
update stuff.

   ...ant


On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote:

 Greetings,

 As the next step in our ongoing efforts to reform the release voting
 process,
 I propose that we run an experiment allowing the PPMC members of select
 podlings to earn binding votes under limited circumstances by completing a
 release checklist.

 For participating podlings, the Incubator's release management guide...

 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html

 ... would be supplanted by the following documents:

 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release_manifest.txt
 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release.html

 The scope of this VOTE is limited to approving the following patch to our
 policy page:

 https://paste.apache.org/k4vJ

 Here is the patch content minus markup:

 2013 Alternate Release Voting Process

 Select podlings pre-cleared by a majority vote of the IPMC MAY
 participate in
 an alternate release voting process:

 Should a Podling decide it wishes to perform a release, the Podling
 SHALL
 hold a vote on the Podling's dev list and create a permanently archived
 Release Manifest as described in the Experimental Release Guide.  At
 least
 three +1 votes from PPMC members are required (see the Apache Voting
 Process page).  If the majority of PPMC votes is positive, then the
 Podling
 SHALL send a summary of that vote to the Incubator's general list and
 formally request the Incubator PMC approve such a release.

 Formal approval requires three binding +1 votes and more positive than
 negative votes.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are always
 binding.  For all releases after the first, votes cast by members
 of the PPMC
 are binding if a Mentor approves the Release Manifest.

 Please note that the proposed change is both incremental and reversible:

 *   It is incremental because podlings must be opted in by vote of the
 IPMC to
 participate.
 *   It is reversible because once the experiment has run its course the
 policy change can be reverted with zero impact through lazy consensus.

 Those who may have questions about the legitimacy of allowing binding votes
 from non-IPMC members should see this post from Roy Fielding:

 http://s.apache.org/v7

 Please vote:

 [ ] +1 Yes, apply the patch enabling the experiment.
 [ ] -1 No, do not apply the patch enabling the experiment.

 This majority VOTE will run for 7 days and will close at 13:00 PST on
 Friday,
 December 20, 2013.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are binding.

 Here is my own +1.

 Marvin Humphrey

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Re: [VOTE] Enable Release Checklist Experiment

2013-12-16 Thread Dave Fisher
[X] +1 Yes, apply the patch enabling the experiment.

I kinda feel it doesn't need the Policy change and at this point it should be 
the 2014 ... but hey - still a positive vote.

Regards,
Dave

On Dec 13, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:

 Greetings,
 
 As the next step in our ongoing efforts to reform the release voting process,
 I propose that we run an experiment allowing the PPMC members of select
 podlings to earn binding votes under limited circumstances by completing a
 release checklist.
 
 For participating podlings, the Incubator's release management guide...
 
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html
 
 ... would be supplanted by the following documents:
 
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release_manifest.txt
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release.html
 
 The scope of this VOTE is limited to approving the following patch to our
 policy page:
 
https://paste.apache.org/k4vJ
 
 Here is the patch content minus markup:
 
2013 Alternate Release Voting Process
 
Select podlings pre-cleared by a majority vote of the IPMC MAY
 participate in
an alternate release voting process:
 
Should a Podling decide it wishes to perform a release, the Podling SHALL
hold a vote on the Podling's dev list and create a permanently archived
Release Manifest as described in the Experimental Release Guide.  At least
three +1 votes from PPMC members are required (see the Apache Voting
Process page).  If the majority of PPMC votes is positive, then the Podling
SHALL send a summary of that vote to the Incubator's general list and
formally request the Incubator PMC approve such a release.
 
Formal approval requires three binding +1 votes and more positive than
negative votes.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are always
binding.  For all releases after the first, votes cast by members
 of the PPMC
are binding if a Mentor approves the Release Manifest.
 
 Please note that the proposed change is both incremental and reversible:
 
 *   It is incremental because podlings must be opted in by vote of the IPMC to
participate.
 *   It is reversible because once the experiment has run its course the
policy change can be reverted with zero impact through lazy consensus.
 
 Those who may have questions about the legitimacy of allowing binding votes
 from non-IPMC members should see this post from Roy Fielding:
 
http://s.apache.org/v7
 
 Please vote:
 
 [ ] +1 Yes, apply the patch enabling the experiment.
 [ ] -1 No, do not apply the patch enabling the experiment.
 
 This majority VOTE will run for 7 days and will close at 13:00 PST on Friday,
 December 20, 2013.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are binding.
 
 Here is my own +1.
 
 Marvin Humphrey
 
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Re: [VOTE] Enable Release Checklist Experiment

2013-12-16 Thread Chip Childers
On Friday, December 13, 2013, Marvin Humphrey wrote:

 Please vote:

 [ ] +1 Yes, apply the patch enabling the experiment.
 [ ] -1 No, do not apply the patch enabling the experiment.


+1


Re: [VOTE] Enable Release Checklist Experiment

2013-12-16 Thread David Crossley
Marvin Humphrey wrote:

 Please vote:
 
 [ ] +1 Yes, apply the patch enabling the experiment.
 [ ] -1 No, do not apply the patch enabling the experiment.

Here is my +1

-David

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Re: [VOTE] Enable Release Checklist Experiment

2013-12-16 Thread Till Westmann
+1

On Dec 13, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:

 Greetings,
 
 As the next step in our ongoing efforts to reform the release voting process,
 I propose that we run an experiment allowing the PPMC members of select
 podlings to earn binding votes under limited circumstances by completing a
 release checklist.
 
 For participating podlings, the Incubator's release management guide...
 
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html
 
 ... would be supplanted by the following documents:
 
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release_manifest.txt
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release.html
 
 The scope of this VOTE is limited to approving the following patch to our
 policy page:
 
https://paste.apache.org/k4vJ
 
 Here is the patch content minus markup:
 
2013 Alternate Release Voting Process
 
Select podlings pre-cleared by a majority vote of the IPMC MAY
 participate in
an alternate release voting process:
 
Should a Podling decide it wishes to perform a release, the Podling SHALL
hold a vote on the Podling's dev list and create a permanently archived
Release Manifest as described in the Experimental Release Guide.  At least
three +1 votes from PPMC members are required (see the Apache Voting
Process page).  If the majority of PPMC votes is positive, then the Podling
SHALL send a summary of that vote to the Incubator's general list and
formally request the Incubator PMC approve such a release.
 
Formal approval requires three binding +1 votes and more positive than
negative votes.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are always
binding.  For all releases after the first, votes cast by members
 of the PPMC
are binding if a Mentor approves the Release Manifest.
 
 Please note that the proposed change is both incremental and reversible:
 
 *   It is incremental because podlings must be opted in by vote of the IPMC to
participate.
 *   It is reversible because once the experiment has run its course the
policy change can be reverted with zero impact through lazy consensus.
 
 Those who may have questions about the legitimacy of allowing binding votes
 from non-IPMC members should see this post from Roy Fielding:
 
http://s.apache.org/v7
 
 Please vote:
 
 [ ] +1 Yes, apply the patch enabling the experiment.
 [ ] -1 No, do not apply the patch enabling the experiment.
 
 This majority VOTE will run for 7 days and will close at 13:00 PST on Friday,
 December 20, 2013.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are binding.
 
 Here is my own +1.
 
 Marvin Humphrey
 
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Re: [VOTE] Enable Release Checklist Experiment

2013-12-15 Thread Dave Brondsema
+1

On 12/13/13 3:59 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 As the next step in our ongoing efforts to reform the release voting process,
 I propose that we run an experiment allowing the PPMC members of select
 podlings to earn binding votes under limited circumstances by completing a
 release checklist.
 
 For participating podlings, the Incubator's release management guide...
 
 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html
 
 ... would be supplanted by the following documents:
 
 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release_manifest.txt
 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release.html
 
 The scope of this VOTE is limited to approving the following patch to our
 policy page:
 
 https://paste.apache.org/k4vJ
 
 Here is the patch content minus markup:
 
 2013 Alternate Release Voting Process
 
 Select podlings pre-cleared by a majority vote of the IPMC MAY
 participate in
 an alternate release voting process:
 
 Should a Podling decide it wishes to perform a release, the Podling SHALL
 hold a vote on the Podling's dev list and create a permanently archived
 Release Manifest as described in the Experimental Release Guide.  At least
 three +1 votes from PPMC members are required (see the Apache Voting
 Process page).  If the majority of PPMC votes is positive, then the 
 Podling
 SHALL send a summary of that vote to the Incubator's general list and
 formally request the Incubator PMC approve such a release.
 
 Formal approval requires three binding +1 votes and more positive than
 negative votes.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are always
 binding.  For all releases after the first, votes cast by members
 of the PPMC
 are binding if a Mentor approves the Release Manifest.
 
 Please note that the proposed change is both incremental and reversible:
 
 *   It is incremental because podlings must be opted in by vote of the IPMC to
 participate.
 *   It is reversible because once the experiment has run its course the
 policy change can be reverted with zero impact through lazy consensus.
 
 Those who may have questions about the legitimacy of allowing binding votes
 from non-IPMC members should see this post from Roy Fielding:
 
 http://s.apache.org/v7
 
 Please vote:
 
 [ ] +1 Yes, apply the patch enabling the experiment.
 [ ] -1 No, do not apply the patch enabling the experiment.
 
 This majority VOTE will run for 7 days and will close at 13:00 PST on Friday,
 December 20, 2013.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are binding.
 
 Here is my own +1.
 
 Marvin Humphrey
 
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Re: [VOTE] Enable Release Checklist Experiment

2013-12-14 Thread Sergio Fernández

On 13/12/13 21:59, Marvin Humphrey wrote:

Please vote:

[ ] +1 Yes, apply the patch enabling the experiment.
[ ] -1 No, do not apply the patch enabling the experiment.


+1

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Re: [VOTE] Enable Release Checklist Experiment

2013-12-14 Thread Joseph Schaefer
+1

On Dec 13, 2013, at 11:31 PM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com wrote:

 So it begins =)
 
 +1
 
 Thanks for leading the effort, Marvin
 
 - Henry
 
 
 On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Marvin Humphrey
 mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 As the next step in our ongoing efforts to reform the release voting process,
 I propose that we run an experiment allowing the PPMC members of select
 podlings to earn binding votes under limited circumstances by completing a
 release checklist.
 
 For participating podlings, the Incubator's release management guide...
 
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html
 
 ... would be supplanted by the following documents:
 
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release_manifest.txt
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release.html
 
 The scope of this VOTE is limited to approving the following patch to our
 policy page:
 
https://paste.apache.org/k4vJ
 
 Here is the patch content minus markup:
 
2013 Alternate Release Voting Process
 
Select podlings pre-cleared by a majority vote of the IPMC MAY
 participate in
an alternate release voting process:
 
Should a Podling decide it wishes to perform a release, the Podling SHALL
hold a vote on the Podling's dev list and create a permanently archived
Release Manifest as described in the Experimental Release Guide.  At least
three +1 votes from PPMC members are required (see the Apache Voting
Process page).  If the majority of PPMC votes is positive, then the 
 Podling
SHALL send a summary of that vote to the Incubator's general list and
formally request the Incubator PMC approve such a release.
 
Formal approval requires three binding +1 votes and more positive than
negative votes.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are always
binding.  For all releases after the first, votes cast by members
 of the PPMC
are binding if a Mentor approves the Release Manifest.
 
 Please note that the proposed change is both incremental and reversible:
 
 *   It is incremental because podlings must be opted in by vote of the IPMC 
 to
participate.
 *   It is reversible because once the experiment has run its course the
policy change can be reverted with zero impact through lazy consensus.
 
 Those who may have questions about the legitimacy of allowing binding votes
 from non-IPMC members should see this post from Roy Fielding:
 
http://s.apache.org/v7
 
 Please vote:
 
 [ ] +1 Yes, apply the patch enabling the experiment.
 [ ] -1 No, do not apply the patch enabling the experiment.
 
 This majority VOTE will run for 7 days and will close at 13:00 PST on Friday,
 December 20, 2013.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are binding.
 
 Here is my own +1.
 
 Marvin Humphrey
 
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Re: [VOTE] Enable Release Checklist Experiment

2013-12-14 Thread Dave
+1


On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.comwrote:

 +1

 On Dec 13, 2013, at 11:31 PM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  So it begins =)
 
  +1
 
  Thanks for leading the effort, Marvin
 
  - Henry
 
 
  On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Marvin Humphrey
  mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
  Greetings,
 
  As the next step in our ongoing efforts to reform the release voting
 process,
  I propose that we run an experiment allowing the PPMC members of select
  podlings to earn binding votes under limited circumstances by
 completing a
  release checklist.
 
  For participating podlings, the Incubator's release management guide...
 
 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html
 
  ... would be supplanted by the following documents:
 
 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release_manifest.txt
 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release.html
 
  The scope of this VOTE is limited to approving the following patch to
 our
  policy page:
 
 https://paste.apache.org/k4vJ
 
  Here is the patch content minus markup:
 
 2013 Alternate Release Voting Process
 
 Select podlings pre-cleared by a majority vote of the IPMC MAY
  participate in
 an alternate release voting process:
 
 Should a Podling decide it wishes to perform a release, the Podling
 SHALL
 hold a vote on the Podling's dev list and create a permanently
 archived
 Release Manifest as described in the Experimental Release Guide.  At
 least
 three +1 votes from PPMC members are required (see the Apache Voting
 Process page).  If the majority of PPMC votes is positive, then the
 Podling
 SHALL send a summary of that vote to the Incubator's general list and
 formally request the Incubator PMC approve such a release.
 
 Formal approval requires three binding +1 votes and more positive
 than
 negative votes.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are
 always
 binding.  For all releases after the first, votes cast by members
  of the PPMC
 are binding if a Mentor approves the Release Manifest.
 
  Please note that the proposed change is both incremental and reversible:
 
  *   It is incremental because podlings must be opted in by vote of the
 IPMC to
 participate.
  *   It is reversible because once the experiment has run its course the
 policy change can be reverted with zero impact through lazy
 consensus.
 
  Those who may have questions about the legitimacy of allowing binding
 votes
  from non-IPMC members should see this post from Roy Fielding:
 
 http://s.apache.org/v7
 
  Please vote:
 
  [ ] +1 Yes, apply the patch enabling the experiment.
  [ ] -1 No, do not apply the patch enabling the experiment.
 
  This majority VOTE will run for 7 days and will close at 13:00 PST on
 Friday,
  December 20, 2013.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are
 binding.
 
  Here is my own +1.
 
  Marvin Humphrey
 
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Re: [VOTE] Enable Release Checklist Experiment

2013-12-14 Thread Andy Seaborne

+1

On 14/12/13 14:42, Dave wrote:

+1


On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.comwrote:


+1

On Dec 13, 2013, at 11:31 PM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com
wrote:


So it begins =)

+1

Thanks for leading the effort, Marvin

- Henry


On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Marvin Humphrey
mar...@rectangular.com wrote:

Greetings,

As the next step in our ongoing efforts to reform the release voting

process,

I propose that we run an experiment allowing the PPMC members of select
podlings to earn binding votes under limited circumstances by

completing a

release checklist.

For participating podlings, the Incubator's release management guide...

http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html

... would be supplanted by the following documents:

http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release_manifest.txt
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release.html

The scope of this VOTE is limited to approving the following patch to

our

policy page:

https://paste.apache.org/k4vJ

Here is the patch content minus markup:

2013 Alternate Release Voting Process

Select podlings pre-cleared by a majority vote of the IPMC MAY
participate in
an alternate release voting process:

Should a Podling decide it wishes to perform a release, the Podling

SHALL

hold a vote on the Podling's dev list and create a permanently

archived

Release Manifest as described in the Experimental Release Guide.  At

least

three +1 votes from PPMC members are required (see the Apache Voting
Process page).  If the majority of PPMC votes is positive, then the

Podling

SHALL send a summary of that vote to the Incubator's general list and
formally request the Incubator PMC approve such a release.

Formal approval requires three binding +1 votes and more positive

than

negative votes.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are

always

binding.  For all releases after the first, votes cast by members
of the PPMC
are binding if a Mentor approves the Release Manifest.

Please note that the proposed change is both incremental and reversible:

*   It is incremental because podlings must be opted in by vote of the

IPMC to

participate.
*   It is reversible because once the experiment has run its course the
policy change can be reverted with zero impact through lazy

consensus.


Those who may have questions about the legitimacy of allowing binding

votes

from non-IPMC members should see this post from Roy Fielding:

http://s.apache.org/v7

Please vote:

[ ] +1 Yes, apply the patch enabling the experiment.
[ ] -1 No, do not apply the patch enabling the experiment.

This majority VOTE will run for 7 days and will close at 13:00 PST on

Friday,

December 20, 2013.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are

binding.


Here is my own +1.

Marvin Humphrey

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[VOTE] Enable Release Checklist Experiment

2013-12-13 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Greetings,

As the next step in our ongoing efforts to reform the release voting process,
I propose that we run an experiment allowing the PPMC members of select
podlings to earn binding votes under limited circumstances by completing a
release checklist.

For participating podlings, the Incubator's release management guide...

http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html

... would be supplanted by the following documents:

http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release_manifest.txt
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release.html

The scope of this VOTE is limited to approving the following patch to our
policy page:

https://paste.apache.org/k4vJ

Here is the patch content minus markup:

2013 Alternate Release Voting Process

Select podlings pre-cleared by a majority vote of the IPMC MAY
participate in
an alternate release voting process:

Should a Podling decide it wishes to perform a release, the Podling SHALL
hold a vote on the Podling's dev list and create a permanently archived
Release Manifest as described in the Experimental Release Guide.  At least
three +1 votes from PPMC members are required (see the Apache Voting
Process page).  If the majority of PPMC votes is positive, then the Podling
SHALL send a summary of that vote to the Incubator's general list and
formally request the Incubator PMC approve such a release.

Formal approval requires three binding +1 votes and more positive than
negative votes.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are always
binding.  For all releases after the first, votes cast by members
of the PPMC
are binding if a Mentor approves the Release Manifest.

Please note that the proposed change is both incremental and reversible:

*   It is incremental because podlings must be opted in by vote of the IPMC to
participate.
*   It is reversible because once the experiment has run its course the
policy change can be reverted with zero impact through lazy consensus.

Those who may have questions about the legitimacy of allowing binding votes
from non-IPMC members should see this post from Roy Fielding:

http://s.apache.org/v7

Please vote:

[ ] +1 Yes, apply the patch enabling the experiment.
[ ] -1 No, do not apply the patch enabling the experiment.

This majority VOTE will run for 7 days and will close at 13:00 PST on Friday,
December 20, 2013.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are binding.

Here is my own +1.

Marvin Humphrey

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Re: [VOTE] Enable Release Checklist Experiment

2013-12-13 Thread lars hofhansl
+1



 From: Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org 
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 12:59 PM
Subject: [VOTE] Enable Release Checklist Experiment
 

Greetings,

As the next step in our ongoing efforts to reform the release voting process,
I propose that we run an experiment allowing the PPMC members of select
podlings to earn binding votes under limited circumstances by completing a
release checklist.

For participating podlings, the Incubator's release management guide...

    http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html

... would be supplanted by the following documents:

    http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release_manifest.txt
    http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release.html

The scope of this VOTE is limited to approving the following patch to our
policy page:

    https://paste.apache.org/k4vJ

Here is the patch content minus markup:

    2013 Alternate Release Voting Process

    Select podlings pre-cleared by a majority vote of the IPMC MAY
participate in
    an alternate release voting process:

    Should a Podling decide it wishes to perform a release, the Podling SHALL
    hold a vote on the Podling's dev list and create a permanently archived
    Release Manifest as described in the Experimental Release Guide.  At least
    three +1 votes from PPMC members are required (see the Apache Voting
    Process page).  If the majority of PPMC votes is positive, then the Podling
    SHALL send a summary of that vote to the Incubator's general list and
    formally request the Incubator PMC approve such a release.

    Formal approval requires three binding +1 votes and more positive than
    negative votes.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are always
    binding.  For all releases after the first, votes cast by members
of the PPMC
    are binding if a Mentor approves the Release Manifest.

Please note that the proposed change is both incremental and reversible:

*   It is incremental because podlings must be opted in by vote of the IPMC to
    participate.
*   It is reversible because once the experiment has run its course the
    policy change can be reverted with zero impact through lazy consensus.

Those who may have questions about the legitimacy of allowing binding votes
from non-IPMC members should see this post from Roy Fielding:

    http://s.apache.org/v7

Please vote:

[ ] +1 Yes, apply the patch enabling the experiment.
[ ] -1 No, do not apply the patch enabling the experiment.

This majority VOTE will run for 7 days and will close at 13:00 PST on Friday,
December 20, 2013.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are binding.

Here is my own +1.

Marvin Humphrey

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Re: [VOTE] Enable Release Checklist Experiment

2013-12-13 Thread Henry Saputra
So it begins =)

+1

Thanks for leading the effort, Marvin

- Henry


On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Marvin Humphrey
mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
 Greetings,

 As the next step in our ongoing efforts to reform the release voting process,
 I propose that we run an experiment allowing the PPMC members of select
 podlings to earn binding votes under limited circumstances by completing a
 release checklist.

 For participating podlings, the Incubator's release management guide...

 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html

 ... would be supplanted by the following documents:

 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release_manifest.txt
 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/release.html

 The scope of this VOTE is limited to approving the following patch to our
 policy page:

 https://paste.apache.org/k4vJ

 Here is the patch content minus markup:

 2013 Alternate Release Voting Process

 Select podlings pre-cleared by a majority vote of the IPMC MAY
 participate in
 an alternate release voting process:

 Should a Podling decide it wishes to perform a release, the Podling SHALL
 hold a vote on the Podling's dev list and create a permanently archived
 Release Manifest as described in the Experimental Release Guide.  At least
 three +1 votes from PPMC members are required (see the Apache Voting
 Process page).  If the majority of PPMC votes is positive, then the 
 Podling
 SHALL send a summary of that vote to the Incubator's general list and
 formally request the Incubator PMC approve such a release.

 Formal approval requires three binding +1 votes and more positive than
 negative votes.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are always
 binding.  For all releases after the first, votes cast by members
 of the PPMC
 are binding if a Mentor approves the Release Manifest.

 Please note that the proposed change is both incremental and reversible:

 *   It is incremental because podlings must be opted in by vote of the IPMC to
 participate.
 *   It is reversible because once the experiment has run its course the
 policy change can be reverted with zero impact through lazy consensus.

 Those who may have questions about the legitimacy of allowing binding votes
 from non-IPMC members should see this post from Roy Fielding:

 http://s.apache.org/v7

 Please vote:

 [ ] +1 Yes, apply the patch enabling the experiment.
 [ ] -1 No, do not apply the patch enabling the experiment.

 This majority VOTE will run for 7 days and will close at 13:00 PST on Friday,
 December 20, 2013.  Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are binding.

 Here is my own +1.

 Marvin Humphrey

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