Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop from Apache Incubator
The VOTE is now closed. I will be sending a RESULT mail separately. Thanks to all who voted. Thanks, Arvind Prabhakar On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Arvind Prabhakar arv...@apache.org wrote: The Apache Sqoop project entered incubator in June of 2011. Since then we have added three new committers from diverse organizations and added two new PPMC members. The codebase of our product has steadily grown and we have made two releases following the ASF policies and guidelines. Thanks to the excellent mentorship we have received through this period, we have learnt to self-govern and grow our community using accepted Apache practices. Sqoop continues to attract interest from contributors and users from all across the world. Given these milestones, I strongly feel that Sqoop is ready to graduate from Incubator. The first step towards graduation is to vote as a community that Sqoop is ready to graduate. If the vote is successful, we will draft a board resolution proposal and call it to vote on the general Incubator list. The complete graduation process is described [1]. Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Graduate Sqoop from Incubator [ ] +0 Indifferent to graduation status of Sqoop [ ] -1 Reject graduation of Sqoop from Incubator This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours from now. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html Thanks, Arvind Prabhakar
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop from Apache Incubator
Hi Matt... Allow me to disagree with you :), there is no confusion but the problem is that most of the people click on reply to all which includes general@address by mistake most probably they don notice it. On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi Arvind, Okey dok, just thought if you were going to cut down on confusion, it might make sense to *not* include general@, regardless of the guidelines :) Otherwise, some IPMC person like me might think (regardless of what you put in your email) that you are intending it as a VOTE for the IPMC. That's why they are, guidelines, but I don't think they are perfect. Anyhoo, I'll just ignore the VOTE thread on general@, and assume that it's really for the Sqoop PPMC at this point. Cheers, Chris //notes to self, maybe I should go update those guidelines, as they don't //make sense to me, but who doesn't have the energy to do so at this point. I can look into that today or tomorrow :) On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote: Thanks Chris for your feedback. Yes, this vote is only intended to be held in the Sqoop community. However, according to the guide on graduation [2], the guidance on community graduation vote explicitly suggests copying the Incubator general list when the vote is proposed. Hence, I added the general list in the cc of the vote mail. Also, I do state explicitly in the vote mail that if this community vote is successful, we will draft a board resolution proposal and call it to vote on the general Incubator list. When we do draft the board resolution proposal it will have details about initial PMC. [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote Thanks, Arvind Prabhakar On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi Arvind, I would encourage removing another ambiguity that I saw -- I think you meant to only hold this on sqoop-dev, right? That's because by the time it gets to the IPMC, at least one thing I'm interested in is the proposed PMC, if there are 3 ASF members or not, etc., and that would be part of the resolution that you guys haven't drafted yet. If you hold this on general@, then before VOTE'ing I would like to see the proposed graduation resolution. There's a bunch of templates, here's the one that Lucy just used: http://wiki.apache.org/lucy/LucyCharter Thanks! Cheers, Chris On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote: Hi, I will have to cancel this vote thread due to a typo in the vote options in my original mail below. Specifically, the option to reject the vote is mentioned as +1 when it should be -1 instead. In order to make sure that there is absolutely no ambiguity in the vote, I will send out a new vote thread in a few minutes. My sincere apologies for the inconvenience. Thanks, Arvind Prabhakar On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Arvind Prabhakar arv...@apache.org wrote: The Apache Sqoop project entered incubator in June of 2011. Since then we have added three new committers from diverse organizations and added two new PPMC members. The codebase of our product has steadily grown and we have made two releases following the ASF policies and guidelines. Thanks to the excellent mentorship we have received through this period, we have learnt to self-govern and grow our community using accepted Apache practices. Sqoop continues to attract interest from contributors and users from all across the world. Given these milestones, I strongly feel that Sqoop is ready to graduate from Incubator. The first step towards graduation is to vote as a community that Sqoop is ready to graduate. If the vote is successful, we will draft a board resolution proposal and call it to vote on the general Incubator list. The complete graduation process is described [1]. Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Graduate Sqoop from Incubator [ ] +0 Indifferent to graduation status of Sqoop [ ] +1 Reject graduation of Sqoop from Incubator This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours from now. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html Thanks, Arvind Prabhakar ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop from Apache Incubator
Oh Mohammad, On Feb 21, 2012, at 2:06 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: Hi Matt... s/Matt/Chris/ Allow me to disagree with you :), there is no confusion but the problem is that most of the people click on reply to all which includes general@address by mistake most probably they don notice it. Hehe, semantics, semantics. OK, fine, how's this, consider *me* confused, that better? On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi Arvind, Okey dok, just thought if you were going to cut down on confusion, it might make sense to *not* include general@, regardless of the guidelines :) Otherwise, some IPMC person like me might think (regardless of what you put in your email) that you are intending it as a VOTE for the IPMC. That's why they are, guidelines, but I don't think they are perfect. Anyhoo, I'll just ignore the VOTE thread on general@, and assume that it's really for the Sqoop PPMC at this point. Cheers, Chris //notes to self, maybe I should go update those guidelines, as they don't //make sense to me, but who doesn't have the energy to do so at this point. I can look into that today or tomorrow :) Thanks man. Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop from Apache Incubator
Hi :) On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Oh Mohammad, On Feb 21, 2012, at 2:06 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: Hi Matt... s/Matt/Chris/ Allow me to disagree with you :), there is no confusion but the problem is that most of the people click on reply to all which includes general@address by mistake most probably they don notice it. Hehe, semantics, semantics. OK, fine, how's this, consider *me* confused, that better? I know that you are much smarter not to be confused, I just wanted to express my different PoV :D On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi Arvind, Okey dok, just thought if you were going to cut down on confusion, it might make sense to *not* include general@, regardless of the guidelines :) Otherwise, some IPMC person like me might think (regardless of what you put in your email) that you are intending it as a VOTE for the IPMC. That's why they are, guidelines, but I don't think they are perfect. Anyhoo, I'll just ignore the VOTE thread on general@, and assume that it's really for the Sqoop PPMC at this point. Cheers, Chris //notes to self, maybe I should go update those guidelines, as they don't //make sense to me, but who doesn't have the energy to do so at this point. I can look into that today or tomorrow :) Thanks man. Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein
[VOTE] Graduate Sqoop from Apache Incubator
The Apache Sqoop project entered incubator in June of 2011. Since then we have added three new committers from diverse organizations and added two new PPMC members. The codebase of our product has steadily grown and we have made two releases following the ASF policies and guidelines. Thanks to the excellent mentorship we have received through this period, we have learnt to self-govern and grow our community using accepted Apache practices. Sqoop continues to attract interest from contributors and users from all across the world. Given these milestones, I strongly feel that Sqoop is ready to graduate from Incubator. The first step towards graduation is to vote as a community that Sqoop is ready to graduate. If the vote is successful, we will draft a board resolution proposal and call it to vote on the general Incubator list. The complete graduation process is described [1]. Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Graduate Sqoop from Incubator [ ] +0 Indifferent to graduation status of Sqoop [ ] +1 Reject graduation of Sqoop from Incubator This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours from now. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html Thanks, Arvind Prabhakar
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop from Apache Incubator
+1 Jarcec On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 01:00:57AM -0800, Arvind Prabhakar wrote: The Apache Sqoop project entered incubator in June of 2011. Since then we have added three new committers from diverse organizations and added two new PPMC members. The codebase of our product has steadily grown and we have made two releases following the ASF policies and guidelines. Thanks to the excellent mentorship we have received through this period, we have learnt to self-govern and grow our community using accepted Apache practices. Sqoop continues to attract interest from contributors and users from all across the world. Given these milestones, I strongly feel that Sqoop is ready to graduate from Incubator. The first step towards graduation is to vote as a community that Sqoop is ready to graduate. If the vote is successful, we will draft a board resolution proposal and call it to vote on the general Incubator list. The complete graduation process is described [1]. Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Graduate Sqoop from Incubator [ ] +0 Indifferent to graduation status of Sqoop [ ] +1 Reject graduation of Sqoop from Incubator This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours from now. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html Thanks, Arvind Prabhakar signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop from Apache Incubator
Thanks Arvind! +1 On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Arvind Prabhakar arv...@apache.org wrote: The Apache Sqoop project entered incubator in June of 2011. Since then we have added three new committers from diverse organizations and added two new PPMC members. The codebase of our product has steadily grown and we have made two releases following the ASF policies and guidelines. Thanks to the excellent mentorship we have received through this period, we have learnt to self-govern and grow our community using accepted Apache practices. Sqoop continues to attract interest from contributors and users from all across the world. Given these milestones, I strongly feel that Sqoop is ready to graduate from Incubator. The first step towards graduation is to vote as a community that Sqoop is ready to graduate. If the vote is successful, we will draft a board resolution proposal and call it to vote on the general Incubator list. The complete graduation process is described [1]. Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Graduate Sqoop from Incubator [ ] +0 Indifferent to graduation status of Sqoop [ ] +1 Reject graduation of Sqoop from Incubator This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours from now. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html Thanks, Arvind Prabhakar
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop from Apache Incubator
Hi, I will have to cancel this vote thread due to a typo in the vote options in my original mail below. Specifically, the option to reject the vote is mentioned as +1 when it should be -1 instead. In order to make sure that there is absolutely no ambiguity in the vote, I will send out a new vote thread in a few minutes. My sincere apologies for the inconvenience. Thanks, Arvind Prabhakar On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Arvind Prabhakar arv...@apache.org wrote: The Apache Sqoop project entered incubator in June of 2011. Since then we have added three new committers from diverse organizations and added two new PPMC members. The codebase of our product has steadily grown and we have made two releases following the ASF policies and guidelines. Thanks to the excellent mentorship we have received through this period, we have learnt to self-govern and grow our community using accepted Apache practices. Sqoop continues to attract interest from contributors and users from all across the world. Given these milestones, I strongly feel that Sqoop is ready to graduate from Incubator. The first step towards graduation is to vote as a community that Sqoop is ready to graduate. If the vote is successful, we will draft a board resolution proposal and call it to vote on the general Incubator list. The complete graduation process is described [1]. Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Graduate Sqoop from Incubator [ ] +0 Indifferent to graduation status of Sqoop [ ] +1 Reject graduation of Sqoop from Incubator This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours from now. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html Thanks, Arvind Prabhakar
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop from Apache Incubator
Hi Arvind, I would encourage removing another ambiguity that I saw -- I think you meant to only hold this on sqoop-dev, right? That's because by the time it gets to the IPMC, at least one thing I'm interested in is the proposed PMC, if there are 3 ASF members or not, etc., and that would be part of the resolution that you guys haven't drafted yet. If you hold this on general@, then before VOTE'ing I would like to see the proposed graduation resolution. There's a bunch of templates, here's the one that Lucy just used: http://wiki.apache.org/lucy/LucyCharter Thanks! Cheers, Chris On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote: Hi, I will have to cancel this vote thread due to a typo in the vote options in my original mail below. Specifically, the option to reject the vote is mentioned as +1 when it should be -1 instead. In order to make sure that there is absolutely no ambiguity in the vote, I will send out a new vote thread in a few minutes. My sincere apologies for the inconvenience. Thanks, Arvind Prabhakar On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Arvind Prabhakar arv...@apache.org wrote: The Apache Sqoop project entered incubator in June of 2011. Since then we have added three new committers from diverse organizations and added two new PPMC members. The codebase of our product has steadily grown and we have made two releases following the ASF policies and guidelines. Thanks to the excellent mentorship we have received through this period, we have learnt to self-govern and grow our community using accepted Apache practices. Sqoop continues to attract interest from contributors and users from all across the world. Given these milestones, I strongly feel that Sqoop is ready to graduate from Incubator. The first step towards graduation is to vote as a community that Sqoop is ready to graduate. If the vote is successful, we will draft a board resolution proposal and call it to vote on the general Incubator list. The complete graduation process is described [1]. Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Graduate Sqoop from Incubator [ ] +0 Indifferent to graduation status of Sqoop [ ] +1 Reject graduation of Sqoop from Incubator This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours from now. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html Thanks, Arvind Prabhakar ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop from Apache Incubator
Thanks Chris for your feedback. Yes, this vote is only intended to be held in the Sqoop community. However, according to the guide on graduation [2], the guidance on community graduation vote explicitly suggests copying the Incubator general list when the vote is proposed. Hence, I added the general list in the cc of the vote mail. Also, I do state explicitly in the vote mail that if this community vote is successful, we will draft a board resolution proposal and call it to vote on the general Incubator list. When we do draft the board resolution proposal it will have details about initial PMC. [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote Thanks, Arvind Prabhakar On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi Arvind, I would encourage removing another ambiguity that I saw -- I think you meant to only hold this on sqoop-dev, right? That's because by the time it gets to the IPMC, at least one thing I'm interested in is the proposed PMC, if there are 3 ASF members or not, etc., and that would be part of the resolution that you guys haven't drafted yet. If you hold this on general@, then before VOTE'ing I would like to see the proposed graduation resolution. There's a bunch of templates, here's the one that Lucy just used: http://wiki.apache.org/lucy/LucyCharter Thanks! Cheers, Chris On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote: Hi, I will have to cancel this vote thread due to a typo in the vote options in my original mail below. Specifically, the option to reject the vote is mentioned as +1 when it should be -1 instead. In order to make sure that there is absolutely no ambiguity in the vote, I will send out a new vote thread in a few minutes. My sincere apologies for the inconvenience. Thanks, Arvind Prabhakar On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Arvind Prabhakar arv...@apache.org wrote: The Apache Sqoop project entered incubator in June of 2011. Since then we have added three new committers from diverse organizations and added two new PPMC members. The codebase of our product has steadily grown and we have made two releases following the ASF policies and guidelines. Thanks to the excellent mentorship we have received through this period, we have learnt to self-govern and grow our community using accepted Apache practices. Sqoop continues to attract interest from contributors and users from all across the world. Given these milestones, I strongly feel that Sqoop is ready to graduate from Incubator. The first step towards graduation is to vote as a community that Sqoop is ready to graduate. If the vote is successful, we will draft a board resolution proposal and call it to vote on the general Incubator list. The complete graduation process is described [1]. Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Graduate Sqoop from Incubator [ ] +0 Indifferent to graduation status of Sqoop [ ] +1 Reject graduation of Sqoop from Incubator This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours from now. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html Thanks, Arvind Prabhakar ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop from Apache Incubator
Hi Arvind, Okey dok, just thought if you were going to cut down on confusion, it might make sense to *not* include general@, regardless of the guidelines :) Otherwise, some IPMC person like me might think (regardless of what you put in your email) that you are intending it as a VOTE for the IPMC. That's why they are, guidelines, but I don't think they are perfect. Anyhoo, I'll just ignore the VOTE thread on general@, and assume that it's really for the Sqoop PPMC at this point. Cheers, Chris //notes to self, maybe I should go update those guidelines, as they don't //make sense to me, but who doesn't have the energy to do so at this point. On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote: Thanks Chris for your feedback. Yes, this vote is only intended to be held in the Sqoop community. However, according to the guide on graduation [2], the guidance on community graduation vote explicitly suggests copying the Incubator general list when the vote is proposed. Hence, I added the general list in the cc of the vote mail. Also, I do state explicitly in the vote mail that if this community vote is successful, we will draft a board resolution proposal and call it to vote on the general Incubator list. When we do draft the board resolution proposal it will have details about initial PMC. [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote Thanks, Arvind Prabhakar On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi Arvind, I would encourage removing another ambiguity that I saw -- I think you meant to only hold this on sqoop-dev, right? That's because by the time it gets to the IPMC, at least one thing I'm interested in is the proposed PMC, if there are 3 ASF members or not, etc., and that would be part of the resolution that you guys haven't drafted yet. If you hold this on general@, then before VOTE'ing I would like to see the proposed graduation resolution. There's a bunch of templates, here's the one that Lucy just used: http://wiki.apache.org/lucy/LucyCharter Thanks! Cheers, Chris On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote: Hi, I will have to cancel this vote thread due to a typo in the vote options in my original mail below. Specifically, the option to reject the vote is mentioned as +1 when it should be -1 instead. In order to make sure that there is absolutely no ambiguity in the vote, I will send out a new vote thread in a few minutes. My sincere apologies for the inconvenience. Thanks, Arvind Prabhakar On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Arvind Prabhakar arv...@apache.org wrote: The Apache Sqoop project entered incubator in June of 2011. Since then we have added three new committers from diverse organizations and added two new PPMC members. The codebase of our product has steadily grown and we have made two releases following the ASF policies and guidelines. Thanks to the excellent mentorship we have received through this period, we have learnt to self-govern and grow our community using accepted Apache practices. Sqoop continues to attract interest from contributors and users from all across the world. Given these milestones, I strongly feel that Sqoop is ready to graduate from Incubator. The first step towards graduation is to vote as a community that Sqoop is ready to graduate. If the vote is successful, we will draft a board resolution proposal and call it to vote on the general Incubator list. The complete graduation process is described [1]. Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Graduate Sqoop from Incubator [ ] +0 Indifferent to graduation status of Sqoop [ ] +1 Reject graduation of Sqoop from Incubator This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours from now. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html Thanks, Arvind Prabhakar ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
