[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-78) Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12640831#action_12640831 ] David Crossley commented on INCUBATOR-78: - Today i added a tool called clutch which addresses some of this need. See r705975. See the notice to the general mailing list: Re: new tool clutch assist oversight of all podlings http://markmail.org/message/yy6cb2gokk5p2ur7 and the website at http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings --- Key: INCUBATOR-78 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz Assignee: David Crossley As discussed in http://markmail.org/message/le55q754m4eypu7r it would be useful to generate the podlings report schedule and the list of projects on the http://incubator.apache.org/ automatically from a master file. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-78) Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12639257#action_12639257 ] David Crossley commented on INCUBATOR-78: - We can parse the generated table Currently in incubation at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ which has most of the information that we need. However, this is still not reliable because we need to know which projects were accepted. Often they miss the first two steps: adding their status to that table, and adding themselves to the reporting schedule Wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule See some more discussion at: Re: up-to-date list of projects in incubation http://markmail.org/message/qxemvfbsljdwbflj If their mentors don't add to the reporting schedule soon after acceptance, then another IPMC member needs to jump in to do it. Then we can parse that wiki ReportingSchedule and correlate with the projects index. Less maintenance of source data, and alerts to missing status info pages. Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings --- Key: INCUBATOR-78 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz As discussed in http://markmail.org/message/le55q754m4eypu7r it would be useful to generate the podlings report schedule and the list of projects on the http://incubator.apache.org/ automatically from a master file. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-78) Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12613703#action_12613703 ] Noel J. Bergman commented on INCUBATOR-78: -- As a suggestion, each incubating project could have a status file at [...] where PROJECT is the project name. They already do. See all of the ${PROJECT}.xml files under http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/projects Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings --- Key: INCUBATOR-78 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz As discussed in http://markmail.org/message/le55q754m4eypu7r it would be useful to generate the podlings report schedule and the list of projects on the http://incubator.apache.org/ automatically from a master file. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-78) Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12612764#action_12612764 ] Robert Burrell Donkin commented on INCUBATOR-78: Re: PIG, RAT, Bluesky - the current process doesn't take into account a long bootstrap period Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings --- Key: INCUBATOR-78 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz As discussed in http://markmail.org/message/le55q754m4eypu7r it would be useful to generate the podlings report schedule and the list of projects on the http://incubator.apache.org/ automatically from a master file. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-78) Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12612766#action_12612766 ] Robert Burrell Donkin commented on INCUBATOR-78: Re: Mailing lists AIUI we don't maintain meta- data for podlings. So we don't know what mailing lists they have. It should be possible to scrape mail-archives.a.org and use some heuristics to generate a list Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings --- Key: INCUBATOR-78 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz As discussed in http://markmail.org/message/le55q754m4eypu7r it would be useful to generate the podlings report schedule and the list of projects on the http://incubator.apache.org/ automatically from a master file. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-78) Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12612768#action_12612768 ] Robert Burrell Donkin commented on INCUBATOR-78: Re: maunal verses automatic reporting schedules. I would be happy with a manual list provided that it was: * on the main website * easily machine readable Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings --- Key: INCUBATOR-78 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz As discussed in http://markmail.org/message/le55q754m4eypu7r it would be useful to generate the podlings report schedule and the list of projects on the http://incubator.apache.org/ automatically from a master file. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-78) Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12610910#action_12610910 ] Jukka Zitting commented on INCUBATOR-78: +1 to Marvin. AFAIK it's in https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/trunk/tools/board_reminders/ Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings --- Key: INCUBATOR-78 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz As discussed in http://markmail.org/message/le55q754m4eypu7r it would be useful to generate the podlings report schedule and the list of projects on the http://incubator.apache.org/ automatically from a master file. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-78) Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12611251#action_12611251 ] Craig Russell commented on INCUBATOR-78: If we all agree that http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule is normative, basing the reminders on this page seems to be non-controversial. Let's *not* create yet another duplicate place to keep this information. And I'll repeat my earlier comment that a global reminder sent to each podling's dev list that refers to the above page would be fine pending implementation of a smarter reminder service. Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings --- Key: INCUBATOR-78 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz As discussed in http://markmail.org/message/le55q754m4eypu7r it would be useful to generate the podlings report schedule and the list of projects on the http://incubator.apache.org/ automatically from a master file. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-78) Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12611349#action_12611349 ] Robert Burrell Donkin commented on INCUBATOR-78: Posting a reminder to every podling's dev list requires a list of dev lists. ATM we don't maindate names so we'd still need to address the meta-data problem. Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings --- Key: INCUBATOR-78 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz As discussed in http://markmail.org/message/le55q754m4eypu7r it would be useful to generate the podlings report schedule and the list of projects on the http://incubator.apache.org/ automatically from a master file. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-78) Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12611369#action_12611369 ] Henning Schmiedehausen commented on INCUBATOR-78: - I thought every podling has a ppmc list? Aren't they recorded somewhere? Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings --- Key: INCUBATOR-78 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz As discussed in http://markmail.org/message/le55q754m4eypu7r it would be useful to generate the podlings report schedule and the list of projects on the http://incubator.apache.org/ automatically from a master file. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-78) Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12611373#action_12611373 ] Craig Russell commented on INCUBATOR-78: Robert Burrell Donkin opined: I think using an algorithm to assign podlings to reporting months would be better than manual assignment. I'm mentoring a few projects and prefer that they all have the same reporting schedule, so for me, manual assignment is preferable. Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings --- Key: INCUBATOR-78 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz As discussed in http://markmail.org/message/le55q754m4eypu7r it would be useful to generate the podlings report schedule and the list of projects on the http://incubator.apache.org/ automatically from a master file. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-78) Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12611454#action_12611454 ] Bertrand Delacretaz commented on INCUBATOR-78: -- If we all agree that http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule is normative, basing the reminders on this page seems to be non-controversial. As recently missed report reminders show, projects are missing (or at least were missing) from that page - basing the list of projects on something more automated like svn repositories or a master file stored in svn sounds much safer and scalable. That wouldn't prevent creating report schedules by hand, but for the schedule to be reliable there needs IMHO to be an automated way of checking it against reference info, to make sure there are no phantom projects as is the case now. From memory, at least Pig, Rat and Bluesky have been forgotten in the reporting schedule, without anybody noticing for quite some time. Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings --- Key: INCUBATOR-78 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz As discussed in http://markmail.org/message/le55q754m4eypu7r it would be useful to generate the podlings report schedule and the list of projects on the http://incubator.apache.org/ automatically from a master file. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-78) Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12610738#action_12610738 ] Bertrand Delacretaz commented on INCUBATOR-78: -- As a suggestion, each incubating project could have a status file at http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/PROJECT/trunk/INCUBATOR-INFO.txt, where PROJECT is the project name. It's easy to verify with a script that this file is present, and putting it in the project's trunk makes it visible to and easily maintainable by the project community, as opposed to something that's stored away in incubator/trunk. The info might be something like: name: Buzzword description: Buzzword is a framework to create buzzword-compliant webapps in Java incubating-since: 2008-05-21 incubation-status: incubating mentors: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] reporting-months: May, June, July, October homepage: http://incubator.apache.org/buzzword committers-list: http://incubator.apache.org/buzzword/whoweare.html Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings --- Key: INCUBATOR-78 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz As discussed in http://markmail.org/message/le55q754m4eypu7r it would be useful to generate the podlings report schedule and the list of projects on the http://incubator.apache.org/ automatically from a master file. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-78) Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12610747#action_12610747 ] Roland Weber commented on INCUBATOR-78: --- Projects could use svn:externals to link their status file from a location in incubator/trunk into their project tree. Then people who just want to track the status files don't have to check out each project trunk individually. While it would also be possible to use svn:externals in incubator/trunk to link to all the status files in the project trunks, that would create yet another metadata location. cheers, Roland Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings --- Key: INCUBATOR-78 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz As discussed in http://markmail.org/message/le55q754m4eypu7r it would be useful to generate the podlings report schedule and the list of projects on the http://incubator.apache.org/ automatically from a master file. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-78) Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12610816#action_12610816 ] Bertrand Delacretaz commented on INCUBATOR-78: -- With your proposal, if the svn:externals are not setup correctly, a project might be missing without it being noticed. The idea with http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/PROJECT/trunk/INCUBATOR-INFO.txt is to use a recursive wget job, for example, which starts at http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator, visits all subfolders and checks for that file. In this case, as soon as a project has an svn repository there, the script can check its status file and complain if absent or incomplete - this would make it impossible for projects to be missed, as is the case now. Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings --- Key: INCUBATOR-78 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz As discussed in http://markmail.org/message/le55q754m4eypu7r it would be useful to generate the podlings report schedule and the list of projects on the http://incubator.apache.org/ automatically from a master file. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12610817#action_12610817 ] Sebb commented on INCUBATOR-78: --- Note that some incubator projects don't currently have trunk directories. This probably needs to be sorted out. Having the file under trunk means that it will appear in branches and tags, and will probably appear in releases as well. This may or may not be seen as a problem. Might be worth considering storing the file at the same level as trunk? This is a bit more awkward to edit (need to check out non-recursively) but is easier to find when navigating SVN. Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings --- Key: INCUBATOR-78 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz As discussed in http://markmail.org/message/le55q754m4eypu7r it would be useful to generate the podlings report schedule and the list of projects on the http://incubator.apache.org/ automatically from a master file. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-78) Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12610869#action_12610869 ] Robert Burrell Donkin commented on INCUBATOR-78: That's why I was wondering about reusing DOAP. We could ask all podlings to register DOAP with http//projects.apache.org and then just analyse the RDF collected under the Incubator PMC. Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings --- Key: INCUBATOR-78 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz As discussed in http://markmail.org/message/le55q754m4eypu7r it would be useful to generate the podlings report schedule and the list of projects on the http://incubator.apache.org/ automatically from a master file. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-78) Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12610870#action_12610870 ] Robert Burrell Donkin commented on INCUBATOR-78: I think using an algorithm to assign podlings to reporting months would be better than manual assignment. Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings --- Key: INCUBATOR-78 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz As discussed in http://markmail.org/message/le55q754m4eypu7r it would be useful to generate the podlings report schedule and the list of projects on the http://incubator.apache.org/ automatically from a master file. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12610872#action_12610872 ] Henning Schmiedehausen commented on INCUBATOR-78: - why not re-use marvin? It works fine for the TLPs. Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings --- Key: INCUBATOR-78 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz As discussed in http://markmail.org/message/le55q754m4eypu7r it would be useful to generate the podlings report schedule and the list of projects on the http://incubator.apache.org/ automatically from a master file. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12610894#action_12610894 ] Bertrand Delacretaz commented on INCUBATOR-78: -- Do you know where the marvin code can be found? Unreliable report schedule and list of podlings --- Key: INCUBATOR-78 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-78 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Bertrand Delacretaz As discussed in http://markmail.org/message/le55q754m4eypu7r it would be useful to generate the podlings report schedule and the list of projects on the http://incubator.apache.org/ automatically from a master file. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]