Re: Any incubation proposal template for projects which leaving the attic.

[Brahma Reddy Battula]

THanks Dave Fisher!!

Will check the attic mailing list.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 8:13 AM Dave Fisher  wrote:

> I’m glad Ambari is out of the Attic! Congratulations!
>
> Information about how to take projects out of the Attic is the Attic PMC’s
> responsibility!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 20, 2022, at 6:14 PM, Brahma Reddy Battula 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> >>
> >>> Honestly, I think if we can find 3 ative ASF members to be on the PMC
> >>> (which seems to be the case -- myself very much interested!) we can
> >>> just bring it back and bootstrap the rest of the community
> >>> organically.
> >
> >
> > Just to close this thread.  Currently https://attic.apache.org/ does n't
> > have this info, Can we document this like "how one attic project can
> become
> > TLP" which I come across now? if it's already documented,please ignore it
> >
> >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 7:10 PM Brahma Reddy Battula 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks a lot Suhas And Roman for heads up..
> >>
> >> One good news is that the attic team has confirmed[1] that ambari can
> >> leave (undo [2]) attic..
> >>
> >> Now we've enough ASF members who are involved in the project,I think we
> >> can move forward.
> >>
> >>
> >>>   Atri Sharma
> >>>   Devaraj Das
> >>>   Vitthal Suhas Gogate
> >>>   Roman Shaposhnik
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1) https://lists.apache.org/thread/jw3klrqp743o824yzxfx9d73vj83x0gd
> >> 2) https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-202
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 2:35 AM Suhas  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey Roman, I and Bramha we work at VISA where we plan to continue using
> >>> Ambari and improve it along the way.. I was previously PMC/Committer on
> >>> Ambari and would very much like to work with you in bringing back this
> >>> project.
> >>>
> >>> I was planning to call few old members I know who were active in
> Ambari.
> >>>
> >>> If it's okay, I will call you sometime this week to get your thoughts.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> --Suhas
> >>>
> >>> On 2022/06/07 09:21:13 Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>  On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 12:04 PM Justin Mclean <
> jus...@classsoftware.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >
> > HI,
> >
> > Depending on who is involved in the project, it may not even require
> >>> to go through the incubator again. Having more details would help with
> this.
> 
>  What Justin said!
> 
>  Honestly, I think if we can find 3 ative ASF members to be on the PMC
>  (which seems to be the case -- myself very much interested!) we can
>  just bring it back and bootstrap the rest of the community
>  organically.
> 
>  Thanks,
>  Roman.
> 
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> >>
> >> --Brahma Reddy Battula
> >>
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Re: Any incubation proposal template for projects which leaving the attic.

[Dave Fisher]

I’m glad Ambari is out of the Attic! Congratulations!

Information about how to take projects out of the Attic is the Attic PMC’s 
responsibility!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 20, 2022, at 6:14 PM, Brahma Reddy Battula  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>>> Honestly, I think if we can find 3 ative ASF members to be on the PMC
>>> (which seems to be the case -- myself very much interested!) we can
>>> just bring it back and bootstrap the rest of the community
>>> organically.
> 
> 
> Just to close this thread.  Currently https://attic.apache.org/ does n't
> have this info, Can we document this like "how one attic project can become
> TLP" which I come across now? if it's already documented,please ignore it
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 7:10 PM Brahma Reddy Battula 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks a lot Suhas And Roman for heads up..
>> 
>> One good news is that the attic team has confirmed[1] that ambari can
>> leave (undo [2]) attic..
>> 
>> Now we've enough ASF members who are involved in the project,I think we
>> can move forward.
>> 
>> 
>>>   Atri Sharma
>>>   Devaraj Das
>>>   Vitthal Suhas Gogate
>>>   Roman Shaposhnik
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 1) https://lists.apache.org/thread/jw3klrqp743o824yzxfx9d73vj83x0gd
>> 2) https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-202
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 2:35 AM Suhas  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Roman, I and Bramha we work at VISA where we plan to continue using
>>> Ambari and improve it along the way.. I was previously PMC/Committer on
>>> Ambari and would very much like to work with you in bringing back this
>>> project.
>>> 
>>> I was planning to call few old members I know who were active in Ambari.
>>> 
>>> If it's okay, I will call you sometime this week to get your thoughts.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> --Suhas
>>> 
>>> On 2022/06/07 09:21:13 Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 12:04 PM Justin Mclean 
>>> wrote:
> 
> HI,
> 
> Depending on who is involved in the project, it may not even require
>>> to go through the incubator again. Having more details would help with this.
 
 What Justin said!
 
 Honestly, I think if we can find 3 ative ASF members to be on the PMC
 (which seems to be the case -- myself very much interested!) we can
 just bring it back and bootstrap the rest of the community
 organically.
 
 Thanks,
 Roman.
 
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>> --Brahma Reddy Battula
>> 
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Re: Any incubation proposal template for projects which leaving the attic.

[Brahma Reddy Battula]

>>Honestly, I think if we can find 3 ative ASF members to be on the PMC
>>(which seems to be the case -- myself very much interested!) we can
>>just bring it back and bootstrap the rest of the community
>>organically.


Just to close this thread.  Currently https://attic.apache.org/ does n't
have this info, Can we document this like "how one attic project can become
TLP" which I come across now? if it's already documented,please ignore it

On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 7:10 PM Brahma Reddy Battula 
wrote:

>
> Thanks a lot Suhas And Roman for heads up..
>
>  One good news is that the attic team has confirmed[1] that ambari can
> leave (undo [2]) attic..
>
> Now we've enough ASF members who are involved in the project,I think we
> can move forward.
>
>
>>Atri Sharma
>>Devaraj Das
>>Vitthal Suhas Gogate
>>Roman Shaposhnik
>
>
>
>
> 1) https://lists.apache.org/thread/jw3klrqp743o824yzxfx9d73vj83x0gd
> 2) https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-202
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 2:35 AM Suhas  wrote:
>
>> Hey Roman, I and Bramha we work at VISA where we plan to continue using
>> Ambari and improve it along the way.. I was previously PMC/Committer on
>> Ambari and would very much like to work with you in bringing back this
>> project.
>>
>> I was planning to call few old members I know who were active in Ambari.
>>
>> If it's okay, I will call you sometime this week to get your thoughts.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --Suhas
>>
>> On 2022/06/07 09:21:13 Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>> > On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 12:04 PM Justin Mclean 
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > HI,
>> > >
>> > > Depending on who is involved in the project, it may not even require
>> to go through the incubator again. Having more details would help with this.
>> >
>> > What Justin said!
>> >
>> > Honestly, I think if we can find 3 ative ASF members to be on the PMC
>> > (which seems to be the case -- myself very much interested!) we can
>> > just bring it back and bootstrap the rest of the community
>> > organically.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Roman.
>> >
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>
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>
>
> --Brahma Reddy Battula
>


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Re: Any incubation proposal template for projects which leaving the attic.

[Brahma Reddy Battula]

Thanks a lot Suhas And Roman for heads up..

 One good news is that the attic team has confirmed[1] that ambari can
leave (undo [2]) attic..

Now we've enough ASF members who are involved in the project,I think we can
move forward.


>Atri Sharma
>Devaraj Das
>Vitthal Suhas Gogate
>Roman Shaposhnik




1) https://lists.apache.org/thread/jw3klrqp743o824yzxfx9d73vj83x0gd
2) https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-202


On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 2:35 AM Suhas  wrote:

> Hey Roman, I and Bramha we work at VISA where we plan to continue using
> Ambari and improve it along the way.. I was previously PMC/Committer on
> Ambari and would very much like to work with you in bringing back this
> project.
>
> I was planning to call few old members I know who were active in Ambari.
>
> If it's okay, I will call you sometime this week to get your thoughts.
>
> Regards,
> --Suhas
>
> On 2022/06/07 09:21:13 Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 12:04 PM Justin Mclean 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > HI,
> > >
> > > Depending on who is involved in the project, it may not even require
> to go through the incubator again. Having more details would help with this.
> >
> > What Justin said!
> >
> > Honestly, I think if we can find 3 ative ASF members to be on the PMC
> > (which seems to be the case -- myself very much interested!) we can
> > just bring it back and bootstrap the rest of the community
> > organically.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Roman.
> >
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Re: Any incubation proposal template for projects which leaving the attic.

[Suhas]

Hey Roman, I and Bramha we work at VISA where we plan to continue using Ambari 
and improve it along the way.. I was previously PMC/Committer on Ambari and 
would very much like to work with you in bringing back this project.

I was planning to call few old members I know who were active in Ambari. 

If it's okay, I will call you sometime this week to get your thoughts. 

Regards, 
--Suhas

On 2022/06/07 09:21:13 Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 12:04 PM Justin Mclean  
> wrote:
> >
> > HI,
> >
> > Depending on who is involved in the project, it may not even require to go 
> > through the incubator again. Having more details would help with this.
> 
> What Justin said!
> 
> Honestly, I think if we can find 3 ative ASF members to be on the PMC
> (which seems to be the case -- myself very much interested!) we can
> just bring it back and bootstrap the rest of the community
> organically.
> 
> Thanks,
> Roman.
> 
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Re: Any incubation proposal template for projects which leaving the attic.

[Roman Shaposhnik]

On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 12:04 PM Justin Mclean  wrote:
>
> HI,
>
> Depending on who is involved in the project, it may not even require to go 
> through the incubator again. Having more details would help with this.

What Justin said!

Honestly, I think if we can find 3 ative ASF members to be on the PMC
(which seems to be the case -- myself very much interested!) we can
just bring it back and bootstrap the rest of the community
organically.

Thanks,
Roman.

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Re: Any incubation proposal template for projects which leaving the attic.

[John D. Ament]

On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 06:23 Brahma Reddy Battula  wrote:

> Thanks Justin,it’s good hearing from you that incubation might not require.
>
> I will give the list of people involved on this on next mail..
>
> Are you looking any specific format??


The champion should be helping you with this part.


>
>
> On Sat, 4 Jun 2022 at 2:34 PM, Justin Mclean 
> wrote:
>
> > HI,
> >
> > Depending on who is involved in the project, it may not even require to
> go
> > through the incubator again. Having more details would help with this.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Justin
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>

Re: Any incubation proposal template for projects which leaving the attic.

[Brahma Reddy Battula]

Thanks Justin,it’s good hearing from you that incubation might not require.

I will give the list of people involved on this on next mail..

Are you looking any specific format??


On Sat, 4 Jun 2022 at 2:34 PM, Justin Mclean 
wrote:

> HI,
>
> Depending on who is involved in the project, it may not even require to go
> through the incubator again. Having more details would help with this.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
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Re: Any incubation proposal template for projects which leaving the attic.

[Justin Mclean]

HI,

Depending on who is involved in the project, it may not even require to go 
through the incubator again. Having more details would help with this.

Kind Regards,
Justin
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Re: Any incubation proposal template for projects which leaving the attic.

[Dave Fisher]

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2022, at 8:45 PM, Brahma Reddy Battula  wrote:
> 
> There are companies and people want to bring back Ambari..

Who are the individual people? Were any contributors, committers, and/or PMC 
members of Ambari.

> And we got the
> champion and mentors..

Generally mentors are ASF members which is good.

> We can share during the proposal.
> 
> Is there any special template?

The Attic PMC has to agree to whatever process is followed and incubation is 
one of four options.

IMO the discussion going on gene...@attic.apache.org should continue with you 
providing your list of individuals. I’ll follow up in that thread.

Regards,
Dave
> 
> 
>> On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 at 11:34 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 2, 2022, at 6:38 PM, Brahma Reddy Battula 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 at 6:53 AM, Dave Fisher 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 Taking projects out of the attic has only happened one time. It was done
 by a PMC.
 
>>> 
>>> Is it happened on roll call ? And it’s mnemonic??
>> 
>> It was XMLBeans. Apache POI uses XMLBeans and needed to fix XML Entity
>> Expansion Security issues and use modern JDKs. It took some time to work
>> out the process and it required a Board Resolution to give the POI PMC
>> responsibility.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 Please tell us which project and if you have a community?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ambari
>> 
>> OK. Ambari had some dependencies on Cloudera. Cloudera put that behind a
>> paywall a year ago.
>> 
>> See https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Ambari.html#2021-05-19 <
>> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Ambari.html#2021-05-19>
>> 
>> Ambari eventually released a 2.7.6 which may not have been proper and then
>> they retired in January.
>> 
>> How many people do you have interested in taking Ambari out of the Attic?
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 
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> On Jun 2, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Brahma Reddy Battula 
 wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I have gone through the process to leave the attic[1].
> Once after I fork the code,For incubation proposal any specific
>> template
> and guidelines needs to be followed..?
> 
> 
> Any pointers will be appreciated.
> 
> 1. https://attic.apache.org/
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> 
> 
> 
> --Brahma Reddy Battula
 
 
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Re: Any incubation proposal template for projects which leaving the attic.

[Brahma Reddy Battula]

There are companies and people want to bring back Ambari.. And we got the
champion and mentors..We can share during the proposal.

Is there any special template?


On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 at 11:34 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

>
>
> > On Jun 2, 2022, at 6:38 PM, Brahma Reddy Battula 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 at 6:53 AM, Dave Fisher 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Taking projects out of the attic has only happened one time. It was done
> >> by a PMC.
> >>
> >
> > Is it happened on roll call ? And it’s mnemonic??
>
> It was XMLBeans. Apache POI uses XMLBeans and needed to fix XML Entity
> Expansion Security issues and use modern JDKs. It took some time to work
> out the process and it required a Board Resolution to give the POI PMC
> responsibility.
>
>
> >
> >
> >> Please tell us which project and if you have a community?
> >
> >
> > Ambari
>
> OK. Ambari had some dependencies on Cloudera. Cloudera put that behind a
> paywall a year ago.
>
> See https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Ambari.html#2021-05-19 <
> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Ambari.html#2021-05-19>
>
> Ambari eventually released a 2.7.6 which may not have been proper and then
> they retired in January.
>
> How many people do you have interested in taking Ambari out of the Attic?
>
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jun 2, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Brahma Reddy Battula 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> I have gone through the process to leave the attic[1].
> >>> Once after I fork the code,For incubation proposal any specific
> template
> >>> and guidelines needs to be followed..?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Any pointers will be appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> 1. https://attic.apache.org/
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --Brahma Reddy Battula
> >>
> >>
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Re: Any incubation proposal template for projects which leaving the attic.

[Dave Fisher]

> On Jun 2, 2022, at 6:38 PM, Brahma Reddy Battula  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 at 6:53 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
>> Taking projects out of the attic has only happened one time. It was done
>> by a PMC.
>> 
> 
> Is it happened on roll call ? And it’s mnemonic??

It was XMLBeans. Apache POI uses XMLBeans and needed to fix XML Entity 
Expansion Security issues and use modern JDKs. It took some time to work out 
the process and it required a Board Resolution to give the POI PMC 
responsibility.


> 
> 
>> Please tell us which project and if you have a community?
> 
> 
> Ambari

OK. Ambari had some dependencies on Cloudera. Cloudera put that behind a 
paywall a year ago.

See https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Ambari.html#2021-05-19 


Ambari eventually released a 2.7.6 which may not have been proper and then they 
retired in January.

How many people do you have interested in taking Ambari out of the Attic?

> 
> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 2, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Brahma Reddy Battula 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I have gone through the process to leave the attic[1].
>>> Once after I fork the code,For incubation proposal any specific template
>>> and guidelines needs to be followed..?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Any pointers will be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> 1. https://attic.apache.org/
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --Brahma Reddy Battula
>> 
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Re: Any incubation proposal template for projects which leaving the attic.

[Brahma Reddy Battula]

On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 at 6:53 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

> Taking projects out of the attic has only happened one time. It was done
> by a PMC.
>

Is it happened on roll call ? And it’s mnemonic??


> Please tell us which project and if you have a community?


Ambari


>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 2, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Brahma Reddy Battula 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have gone through the process to leave the attic[1].
> > Once after I fork the code,For incubation proposal any specific template
> > and guidelines needs to be followed..?
> >
> >
> > Any pointers will be appreciated.
> >
> > 1. https://attic.apache.org/
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> > --Brahma Reddy Battula
>
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Re: Any incubation proposal template for projects which leaving the attic.

[Dave Fisher]

Taking projects out of the attic has only happened one time. It was done by a 
PMC.

Please tell us which project and if you have a community?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 2, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Brahma Reddy Battula  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I have gone through the process to leave the attic[1].
> Once after I fork the code,For incubation proposal any specific template
> and guidelines needs to be followed..?
> 
> 
> Any pointers will be appreciated.
> 
> 1. https://attic.apache.org/
> -- 
> 
> 
> 
> --Brahma Reddy Battula


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Any incubation proposal template for projects which leaving the attic.

[Brahma Reddy Battula]

Hi All,

I have gone through the process to leave the attic[1].
Once after I fork the code,For incubation proposal any specific template
and guidelines needs to be followed..?


Any pointers will be appreciated.

1. https://attic.apache.org/
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