Re: Doing a release which includes an Eclipse update site

2007-11-30 Thread Erik Abele

On 30.11.2007, at 05:00, Marshall Schor wrote:


Thanks, Erik.  It makes sense to me to have the update site under the
dist/ directory, since it is a kind of distribution.

I see there was an update to the page
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
about a month ago which added the information that incubator podling
releases
*must* be on http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/---podlingname---


Yes, after several long and heated debates I believe this is what was  
decided, see the thread at [1] for example; the doc you mentioned  
seems to confirm this but as there is no such location I'm also  
wondering what the status quo is right now...



So I'll make our update site have the form:
www.a.o/dist/incubator/uima/

I see in geronimo/eclipse/updates/plugins the jars for the plugins,  
plus
the .asc, md5, and .sha files.  How are the .asc, md5, .sha files  
used?
Does the Eclipse update-site signing mechanism interface with  
these files?


No, afaict these are not really used though can't hurt to have them.

By the way, I looked at www.a.o/dist/incubator, and it appears that  
the

incubator tree has not yet been set up (I get a URL Not Found).  Am I
looking in the wrong spot, or have there been no incubator releases
since this policy change?


It's a pita that we still don't have a www.a.o/dist/incubator - I was  
under the impression that we're using that already but it seems that  
the incubator is still using the non-mirrored and non-archived  
location at people.apache.org/dist/incubator/...


Cheers,
Erik

[1] http://marc.info/?t=11720166144r=1w=2

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Doing a release which includes an Eclipse update site

2007-11-29 Thread Marshall Schor
In our next release of Apache UIMA from the incubator, we would like to
include an additional packaging of some of our Eclipse tooling as an
Eclipse update site.  This is a location, reachable via http, which
Eclipse can use to download Eclipse plugins.  Doing this solves a
long-standing complaint because this method does version / dependency
checking for other needed Eclipse plugins.

Several projects at Apache make use of Eclipse update sites; all of them
(I think) host them off of their project web sites.  This is what we
would like to do.

Is this OK to do (once the release is voted on, and passes, of course) ?

-Marshall Schor

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Re: Doing a release which includes an Eclipse update site

2007-11-29 Thread Erik Abele

On 29.11.2007, at 22:41, Marshall Schor wrote:

In our next release of Apache UIMA from the incubator, we would  
like to

include an additional packaging of some of our Eclipse tooling as an
Eclipse update site.  This is a location, reachable via http, which
Eclipse can use to download Eclipse plugins.  Doing this solves a
long-standing complaint because this method does version / dependency
checking for other needed Eclipse plugins.

Several projects at Apache make use of Eclipse update sites; all of  
them

(I think) host them off of their project web sites.  This is what we
would like to do.


Off of their project web sites? Hmm, I'd suggest to do it like  
Geronimo and use your /dist/ area:


http://www.apache.org/dist/geronimo/eclipse/updates/

and also tie it into the current mirroring system; for an example see  
site.xml at that location, esspecially the site mirrorsURL=... in  
there which refers to [1] and which takes care of delivering the  
locations of the currently available mirrors...


Cheers,
Erik

[1] http://geronimo.apache.org/devtools/geronimo-eclipse-update--xml.cgi
for the source see
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/site/trunk/docs/devtools/


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Re: Doing a release which includes an Eclipse update site

2007-11-29 Thread Marshall Schor
Thanks, Erik.  It makes sense to me to have the update site under the
dist/ directory, since it is a kind of distribution. 

I see there was an update to the page
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
about a month ago which added the information that incubator podling
releases
*must* be on http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/---podlingname---

So I'll make our update site have the form:
www.a.o/dist/incubator/uima/

I see in geronimo/eclipse/updates/plugins the jars for the plugins, plus
the .asc, md5, and .sha files.  How are the .asc, md5, .sha files used?
Does the Eclipse update-site signing mechanism interface with these files?

By the way, I looked at www.a.o/dist/incubator, and it appears that the
incubator tree has not yet been set up (I get a URL Not Found).  Am I
looking in the wrong spot, or have there been no incubator releases
since this policy change?

-Marshall

Erik Abele wrote:
 On 29.11.2007, at 22:41, Marshall Schor wrote:

 In our next release of Apache UIMA from the incubator, we would like to
 include an additional packaging of some of our Eclipse tooling as an
 Eclipse update site.  This is a location, reachable via http, which
 Eclipse can use to download Eclipse plugins.  Doing this solves a
 long-standing complaint because this method does version / dependency
 checking for other needed Eclipse plugins.

 Several projects at Apache make use of Eclipse update sites; all of them
 (I think) host them off of their project web sites.  This is what we
 would like to do.

 Off of their project web sites? Hmm, I'd suggest to do it like
 Geronimo and use your /dist/ area:

 http://www.apache.org/dist/geronimo/eclipse/updates/

 and also tie it into the current mirroring system; for an example see
 site.xml at that location, esspecially the site mirrorsURL=... in
 there which refers to [1] and which takes care of delivering the
 locations of the currently available mirrors...

 Cheers,
 Erik

 [1] http://geronimo.apache.org/devtools/geronimo-eclipse-update--xml.cgi
 for the source see
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/site/trunk/docs/devtools/


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