Re: GSoC Donation and/or clearance
Hi, On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: The standard rules all apply to GSoC students. They should do their code in as close to the standard way as possible (which would have precluded the code being outside at this point) and they should file and ICLA if they do enough to warrant it. Thanks for the answer. It is not clear for me how the standard way would have precluded the code being outside. IMO the standard way is to communicate / discuss by mailing list, developed code outside and accept it as patch. Then the student could have earned enough karma to be accepted as committer. But maybe I am missing something? This is also how we structured the GSOC project and as result the code is written outside the foundation. The questions we are now struggling with are: to accept the donation do we need an IP clearance?, if yes is a code grant needed? and if yes again who should sign this grant ? Greetings, Pepijn
Re: GSoC Donation and/or clearance
If the student provides it as a patch, then you are asking the usual question about the quantity of code. There is no hard and fast rule, but unless it's very large, the AL is very clear; patches sent to mailing lists or attached to issue tracking systems or any of that are covered by the AL. If the amount of code is very large, or if the code is not clearly attached to a patch on a mailing list of issue tracker, then you would need an ICLA. The SGA usually comes into play if the code is not the work and property of an individual. The SGA allows some entity to grant the AL unambiguously. If the code is the work and property of an individual, the ICLA does that just fine. Typically, the SGA is used for corporations donating code to projects. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Pepijn Noltes pepijnnol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: The standard rules all apply to GSoC students. They should do their code in as close to the standard way as possible (which would have precluded the code being outside at this point) and they should file and ICLA if they do enough to warrant it. Thanks for the answer. It is not clear for me how the standard way would have precluded the code being outside. IMO the standard way is to communicate / discuss by mailing list, developed code outside and accept it as patch. Then the student could have earned enough karma to be accepted as committer. But maybe I am missing something? This is also how we structured the GSOC project and as result the code is written outside the foundation. The questions we are now struggling with are: to accept the donation do we need an IP clearance?, if yes is a code grant needed? and if yes again who should sign this grant ? Greetings, Pepijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: GSoC Donation and/or clearance
Hi all, Thanks for the replies, 2014/1/9 Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org I agree - following the student's work should give you reasonable assurance that the code is their own, and the intent of the student to contribute the code to Apache should have been clear from the start, so IMO you don't need a grant in that case. Sounds good to me. What about IP Clearance? Does the same apply (we do know the code is clean) and can we assume it is ok? -- Met vriendelijke groet, Alexander Broekhuis
Re: GSoC Donation and/or clearance
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: ...The SGA usually comes into play if the code is not the work and property of an individual. The SGA allows some entity to grant the AL unambiguously. If the code is the work and property of an individual, the ICLA does that just fine... I agree - following the student's work should give you reasonable assurance that the code is their own, and the intent of the student to contribute the code to Apache should have been clear from the start, so IMO you don't need a grant in that case. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: GSoC Donation and/or clearance
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Alexander Broekhuis a.broekh...@gmail.com wrote: ...What about IP Clearance? Does the same apply (we do know the code is clean) and can we assume it is ok?... If committers of the ASF project in question have followed the development this is not very different from code developed at the ASF in my opinion, due diligence should have happened all along. What do the GSoC rules say about this? The best would be if they specify that all code belongs to the target organization from the start. IANAL but if this is not the case I'd think the code belongs to the student, and by signing up for GSoC they make it clear that they intent to contribute it so we're good. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
GSoC Donation and/or clearance
Hi all, Perhaps this has been asked before, but I couldn't find a complete answer.. This summer a GSoC student implemented something for Celix which we now want to include. Since this code is written outside of the foundation, I would assume a standard code grant and clearance is needed. Is this correct? And if so, who is the owner of that code? In other words, who needs to send in the grant? Any feedback is appreciated! -- Met vriendelijke groet, Alexander Broekhuis
Re: GSoC Donation and/or clearance
The standard rules all apply to GSoC students. They should do their code in as close to the standard way as possible (which would have precluded the code being outside at this point) and they should file and ICLA if they do enough to warrant it. On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Alexander Broekhuis a.broekh...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, Perhaps this has been asked before, but I couldn't find a complete answer.. This summer a GSoC student implemented something for Celix which we now want to include. Since this code is written outside of the foundation, I would assume a standard code grant and clearance is needed. Is this correct? And if so, who is the owner of that code? In other words, who needs to send in the grant? Any feedback is appreciated! -- Met vriendelijke groet, Alexander Broekhuis
