Incubator Project Dissolution for NMaven

2008-11-13 Thread Jason van Zyl
Do we have an official process for dissolving a project in the  
incubator?


We had a vote amongst the IPMC members for NMaven yesterday and 3/4  
IPMC members voted to dissolve the NMaven project and take it out of  
the incubator.


Is there any official process or do we just update the documentation?

Thanks,

Jason

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Re: Incubator Project Dissolution for NMaven

2008-11-13 Thread Jason van Zyl


On 13-Nov-08, at 2:23 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Jason Van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:
Do we have an official process for dissolving a project in the  
incubator?


We had a vote amongst the IPMC members for NMaven yesterday and 3/4  
IPMC

members voted to dissolve the NMaven project and take it out of the
incubator.


Uhhh I have not seen any vote regarding NMaven in the Incubator
PMC. I must assume you meant PPMC or perhaps even Maven PMC.



Sorry, the NMaven IPMC.


Is there any official process or do we just update the documentation?


I think that you have Incubator PMC consensus, so unless someone
yells, documentation needs to be updated. Off my head;

* STATUS page - Add a note that it is retired.
* Website (if any), saying that Incubation retired.
* site-author/stylesheets/project.xml  - Remove NMaven link.
* site-author/projects/index.xml  - Move it to Retired section.
* Reporting Schedule - http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule


Cheers
Niclas

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Thanks,

Jason

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Re: Incubator Project Dissolution for NMaven

2008-11-13 Thread Jason van Zyl


On 13-Nov-08, at 2:16 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote:


Depends on what take it out of the incubator means:
- graduation to TLP
- graduation to sub project
- stop incubation altogether and possibly continue elsewhere



Take it out of the incubator and Apache all together.


Graduation is covered in the graduation guide [1], stopping (aka
failing) is not covered in a guide (yet). I assume a formal vote on
general@ might be in order, and when that is completed, all resources
should be shelved: svn - attic, status page - set status to
stopped/failed, remove project from reporting schedule, remove project
from active project list on site, add to stopped/failed project list.
Close down wiki, update project site to reflect status.

Martijn

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:27 AM, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:
Do we have an official process for dissolving a project in the  
incubator?


We had a vote amongst the IPMC members for NMaven yesterday and 3/4  
IPMC

members voted to dissolve the NMaven project and take it out of the
incubator.

Is there any official process or do we just update the documentation?

Thanks,

Jason

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Re: Incubator Project Dissolution for NMaven

2008-11-13 Thread Shane Isbell
The vote was among the NMaven PPMC. Is it required to have an additional
IPMC vote or can we just start wrapping it up, letting the developer
community know the next steps?

Thanks,
Shane

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:11 AM, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On 13-Nov-08, at 2:23 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:

  On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Jason Van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do we have an official process for dissolving a project in the incubator?

 We had a vote amongst the IPMC members for NMaven yesterday and 3/4 IPMC
 members voted to dissolve the NMaven project and take it out of the
 incubator.


 Uhhh I have not seen any vote regarding NMaven in the Incubator
 PMC. I must assume you meant PPMC or perhaps even Maven PMC.


 Sorry, the NMaven IPMC.

  Is there any official process or do we just update the documentation?


 I think that you have Incubator PMC consensus, so unless someone
 yells, documentation needs to be updated. Off my head;

 * STATUS page - Add a note that it is retired.
 * Website (if any), saying that Incubation retired.
 * site-author/stylesheets/project.xml  - Remove NMaven link.
 * site-author/projects/index.xml  - Move it to Retired section.
 * Reporting Schedule -
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule


 Cheers
 Niclas

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 Jason

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Incubator Project Dissolution for NMaven

2008-11-12 Thread Jason van Zyl
Do we have an official process for dissolving a project in the incubator?

We had a vote amongst the IPMC members for NMaven yesterday and 3/4 IPMC
members voted to dissolve the NMaven project and take it out of the
incubator.

Is there any official process or do we just update the documentation?

Thanks,

Jason

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Incubator Project Dissolution for NMaven

2008-11-12 Thread Jason Van Zyl
Do we have an official process for dissolving a project in the incubator?

We had a vote amongst the IPMC members for NMaven yesterday and 3/4 IPMC
members voted to dissolve the NMaven project and take it out of the
incubator.

Is there any official process or do we just update the documentation?

Thanks,

Jason

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Founder,  Apache Maven
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business, and welfare go to ruin completely can
be omnipotent for a while.

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Re: Incubator Project Dissolution for NMaven

2008-11-12 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Depends on what take it out of the incubator means:
 - graduation to TLP
 - graduation to sub project
 - stop incubation altogether and possibly continue elsewhere

Graduation is covered in the graduation guide [1], stopping (aka
failing) is not covered in a guide (yet). I assume a formal vote on
general@ might be in order, and when that is completed, all resources
should be shelved: svn - attic, status page - set status to
stopped/failed, remove project from reporting schedule, remove project
from active project list on site, add to stopped/failed project list.
Close down wiki, update project site to reflect status.

Martijn

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:27 AM, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do we have an official process for dissolving a project in the incubator?

 We had a vote amongst the IPMC members for NMaven yesterday and 3/4 IPMC
 members voted to dissolve the NMaven project and take it out of the
 incubator.

 Is there any official process or do we just update the documentation?

 Thanks,

 Jason

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 Founder,  Apache Maven
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Re: Incubator Project Dissolution for NMaven

2008-11-12 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Jason Van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do we have an official process for dissolving a project in the incubator?

 We had a vote amongst the IPMC members for NMaven yesterday and 3/4 IPMC
 members voted to dissolve the NMaven project and take it out of the
 incubator.

Uhhh I have not seen any vote regarding NMaven in the Incubator
PMC. I must assume you meant PPMC or perhaps even Maven PMC.

 Is there any official process or do we just update the documentation?

I think that you have Incubator PMC consensus, so unless someone
yells, documentation needs to be updated. Off my head;

 * STATUS page - Add a note that it is retired.
 * Website (if any), saying that Incubation retired.
 * site-author/stylesheets/project.xml  - Remove NMaven link.
 * site-author/projects/index.xml  - Move it to Retired section.
 * Reporting Schedule - http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule


Cheers
Niclas

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Re: Incubator Project Dissolution for NMaven

2008-11-12 Thread David Crossley
Martijn Dashorst wrote:
 Depends on what take it out of the incubator means:
  - graduation to TLP
  - graduation to sub project
  - stop incubation altogether and possibly continue elsewhere
 
 Graduation is covered in the graduation guide [1], stopping (aka
 failing) is not covered in a guide (yet). I assume a formal vote on
 general@ might be in order, and when that is completed, all resources
 should be shelved: svn - attic, status page - set status to
 stopped/failed, remove project from reporting schedule, remove project
 from active project list on site, add to stopped/failed project list.
 Close down wiki, update project site to reflect status.

Some items are listed at:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-100
document the process for a podling that has decided to go to dormant status

-David

 Jason van Zyl wrote:
  Do we have an official process for dissolving a project in the incubator?
 
  We had a vote amongst the IPMC members for NMaven yesterday and 3/4 IPMC
  members voted to dissolve the NMaven project and take it out of the
  incubator.
 
  Is there any official process or do we just update the documentation?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Jason

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