Re: Infrastructure removing releases Was: Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.0
HI, > If you want to ask Infra a question, then ask on users@infra or > private@infra. Will do, thanks. > And [1] is 13 years old. And I said it was old, there are more recent emails along the same lines, but I'm not able to find them right now. Not surprisingly searching for things released to releases brings up many many emails. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Infrastructure removing releases Was: Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.0
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:01 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > I apologize for missing that question in the May report. > > I've ask esthe question several times over serval months (in slightly > different forms) and not got a clear answer. > > The most recent conversations have been on Slack. See for instance [2] or > [3] (where is seems that sometimes infra are the police) or [4]. > > I can’t find the email in question, but did recall and find this (although > it's from a while ago) [1] > If you want to ask Infra a question, then ask on users@infra or private@infra. Per [2], that is exactly the response "not for Slack". We might see it on general@incubator ... but honestly: if you seriously want our input, then ask where we will see it and respond. And if you don't get a response, then escalate until you do. And [1] is 13 years old. Not even sure how that enters into the conversation, unless you want to take Roy's advice and move Incubator in the direction it seems people want: relax release workflow. Get the IPMC out of the process/voting. Regards, Greg Stein InfraAdmin, ASF
Re: Infrastructure removing releases Was: Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.0
Hi, > I apologize for missing that question in the May report. I've ask esthe question several times over serval months (in slightly different forms) and not got a clear answer. The most recent conversations have been on Slack. See for instance [2] or [3] (where is seems that sometimes infra are the police) or [4]. I can’t find the email in question, but did recall and find this (although it's from a while ago) [1] > Infrastructure is not checking releases to validate their correctness. > Infra has no desire to be the ASF Police force. (though I'm sure we'd > have cool uniforms and badges….) Something like the vegan police from Scott Pilgrim vs the World I would imagine :-) Thanks, Justin 1. https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2f22c70119eafe2a5c6999534b9c0153581b1810d535f43ccafabe14@1166645553@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E 2. https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CBX4TSBQ8/p1556248064429300 3. https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CBX4TSBQ8/p1549592730879300 4. https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CBX4TSBQ8/p1552078486440300 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Infrastructure removing releases Was: Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.0
> > Have you checked with infra that they will allow this? Previous they have > said they will remove any release with an issue like this. I’ve tried to get > clarity on this (see board report before last) but with no luck. > Justin, I apologize for missing that question in the May report. Can you point me to where we've said we'll remove releases? Infrastructure is not checking releases to validate their correctness. Infra has no desire to be the ASF Police force. (though I'm sure we'd have cool uniforms and badges) There's no one in Infra who sits around judging the 'correctness' of artifacts. Moreover, Infra reports into the office of the President, and the President has no oversight or management of projects, by design. We do have some tools that do things like validate checksums against artifacts, but that's primarily to ensure that corrupted artifacts, or malicious artifacts aren't distributed. Projects will get automated complaining emails about that situation if it happens. In the event that any project discovers some egregious error and needs to have something removed, that's possible, but a request would need to be made by the project. HTH, --David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
