RE: Mentor capactity of the incubator
For my part I remain an IPMC member, while not having the time to mentor, because I take mentorship extremely seriously. If I'm not going to be able to read (or at least scan) every mail thread during the early days and be ready to respond quickly at key stages of the process then I'm not willing to sign up. What this translates to is I'll only step up when the project has personal interest to me. A number of times in recent months I have "nearly" thrown my hat into the ring, only to step back when I see that there are already mentors on the project that I trust to do a good job. Ross -Original Message- From: Greg Stein Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 4:29 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Mentor capactity of the incubator On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 2:18 AM Justin Mclean wrote: >... > For IPMC members who are unable to be a mentor I’m curious to know > what the reasons are, I’m sure that “not having the time" is probably > the number one reason, but are is there any thing else stopping member > (in particular first time ones) from coming forward and volunteering? > For myself, it is because I conflate my personal time into my job time, working on Infra-related stuff. I've found that I cannot distinguish my ASF time between the two aspects, so cannot reliably provide dedicated ASF time to personal stuff. I remain on the IPMC, however, because I *do* find that I can be responsive to Incubator-related concerns. (and I do the same for other ASF projects; responsive time, rather than allocated time) Cheers, -g - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Mentor capactity of the incubator
I'm interested in being a mentor at some point, though I'd prefer to help with a project in a domain I'm experienced with. On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 at 10:26, Willem Jiang wrote: > Hi > > From my podling experience, it's really hard for a new podling > project to find a mentor by himself, so sometime new podling project > just ask help in the mailing list. > The warm hearted mentors who response the mail will be put put into > the podling proposal, and we never ask them about if they have time to > perform the duty of mentor. > Maybe we can setup a reminder email once the mentor is adding to the > podling project to let him know about the role, duties, and how much > time he need to put into the Podling project. In this way, we may > reduce the inactive mentor situations in the future. > > But how much time do we need to spend for mentoring the project. From > my experience, there are some work for the project initial setup and > release mentoring, but other time,the mentor just need to keep an eye > on the project and response the question from Podling projects. But > it could be different from project to project, so please add your > comments here. > > BTW, it's hard for the podling project to ask for release checking as > there are only few IPMC members vote the release kit. If we talk about > the Mentor capacity, IMO we need to take this issue into > consideration. > > Willem Jiang > > Twitter: willemjiang > Weibo: 姜宁willem > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 3:18 PM Justin Mclean > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > We have a large number of IPMC members (280+). I wondering if any IPMC > members could indicate if they have any capacity/free cycles and a > willingness for mentoring projects. It looks like we are going to have a > number of inactive mentors step down in the near future and we may end up > with some podlings only having one or two mentors. Three mentors seems to > the the number that works best. > > > > Of course I understand it may have to be the right sort of project, but > I’m just trying the gauge the current mentor capacity of the incubator, so > if you think you could be a mentor if the right project came along then > please indicate it here. > > > > For IPMC members who are unable to be a mentor I’m curious to know what > the reasons are, I’m sure that “not having the time" is probably the number > one reason, but are is there any thing else stopping member (in particular > first time ones) from coming forward and volunteering? > > > > The mentor capacity we have may in the future have an impact on if and > how often we accept new podlings. I'd hate to turn away podlings, but if we > can’t effectively mentor them I’m not sure what else we can do. anyone have > any ideas? > > > > For myself currently I could only realistically mentor one more project. > > > > Thanks, > > Justin > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- Matt Sicker
Re: Mentor capactity of the incubator
Hi >From my podling experience, it's really hard for a new podling project to find a mentor by himself, so sometime new podling project just ask help in the mailing list. The warm hearted mentors who response the mail will be put put into the podling proposal, and we never ask them about if they have time to perform the duty of mentor. Maybe we can setup a reminder email once the mentor is adding to the podling project to let him know about the role, duties, and how much time he need to put into the Podling project. In this way, we may reduce the inactive mentor situations in the future. But how much time do we need to spend for mentoring the project. From my experience, there are some work for the project initial setup and release mentoring, but other time,the mentor just need to keep an eye on the project and response the question from Podling projects. But it could be different from project to project, so please add your comments here. BTW, it's hard for the podling project to ask for release checking as there are only few IPMC members vote the release kit. If we talk about the Mentor capacity, IMO we need to take this issue into consideration. Willem Jiang Twitter: willemjiang Weibo: 姜宁willem On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 3:18 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > We have a large number of IPMC members (280+). I wondering if any IPMC > members could indicate if they have any capacity/free cycles and a > willingness for mentoring projects. It looks like we are going to have a > number of inactive mentors step down in the near future and we may end up > with some podlings only having one or two mentors. Three mentors seems to the > the number that works best. > > Of course I understand it may have to be the right sort of project, but I’m > just trying the gauge the current mentor capacity of the incubator, so if you > think you could be a mentor if the right project came along then please > indicate it here. > > For IPMC members who are unable to be a mentor I’m curious to know what the > reasons are, I’m sure that “not having the time" is probably the number one > reason, but are is there any thing else stopping member (in particular first > time ones) from coming forward and volunteering? > > The mentor capacity we have may in the future have an impact on if and how > often we accept new podlings. I'd hate to turn away podlings, but if we can’t > effectively mentor them I’m not sure what else we can do. anyone have any > ideas? > > For myself currently I could only realistically mentor one more project. > > Thanks, > Justin > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Mentor capactity of the incubator
I don't know if I have the status to help but the will is there. Thanks, Gunnar Original message From: Justin Mclean Date: 9/16/18 2:18 AM (GMT-06:00) To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Mentor capactity of the incubator Hi, We have a large number of IPMC members (280+). I wondering if any IPMC members could indicate if they have any capacity/free cycles and a willingness for mentoring projects. It looks like we are going to have a number of inactive mentors step down in the near future and we may end up with some podlings only having one or two mentors. Three mentors seems to the the number that works best. Of course I understand it may have to be the right sort of project, but I’m just trying the gauge the current mentor capacity of the incubator, so if you think you could be a mentor if the right project came along then please indicate it here. For IPMC members who are unable to be a mentor I’m curious to know what the reasons are, I’m sure that “not having the time" is probably the number one reason, but are is there any thing else stopping member (in particular first time ones) from coming forward and volunteering? The mentor capacity we have may in the future have an impact on if and how often we accept new podlings. I'd hate to turn away podlings, but if we can’t effectively mentor them I’m not sure what else we can do. anyone have any ideas? For myself currently I could only realistically mentor one more project. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Mentor capactity of the incubator
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 2:18 AM Justin Mclean wrote: >... > For IPMC members who are unable to be a mentor I’m curious to know what > the reasons are, I’m sure that “not having the time" is probably the number > one reason, but are is there any thing else stopping member (in particular > first time ones) from coming forward and volunteering? > For myself, it is because I conflate my personal time into my job time, working on Infra-related stuff. I've found that I cannot distinguish my ASF time between the two aspects, so cannot reliably provide dedicated ASF time to personal stuff. I remain on the IPMC, however, because I *do* find that I can be responsive to Incubator-related concerns. (and I do the same for other ASF projects; responsive time, rather than allocated time) Cheers, -g
Mentor capactity of the incubator
Hi, We have a large number of IPMC members (280+). I wondering if any IPMC members could indicate if they have any capacity/free cycles and a willingness for mentoring projects. It looks like we are going to have a number of inactive mentors step down in the near future and we may end up with some podlings only having one or two mentors. Three mentors seems to the the number that works best. Of course I understand it may have to be the right sort of project, but I’m just trying the gauge the current mentor capacity of the incubator, so if you think you could be a mentor if the right project came along then please indicate it here. For IPMC members who are unable to be a mentor I’m curious to know what the reasons are, I’m sure that “not having the time" is probably the number one reason, but are is there any thing else stopping member (in particular first time ones) from coming forward and volunteering? The mentor capacity we have may in the future have an impact on if and how often we accept new podlings. I'd hate to turn away podlings, but if we can’t effectively mentor them I’m not sure what else we can do. anyone have any ideas? For myself currently I could only realistically mentor one more project. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
