Re: Open up incubator wiki to all committers
Hi, > I don’t think this step is documented for new, graduated and retired podlings. No it's not document anywhere, but it's on my list of things to do, we only moved to the new wiki / LDAP authentication recently. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Open up incubator wiki to all committers
Hi Justin, I don’t think this step is documented for new, graduated and retired podlings. For example you still have zipkin in the list. Regards, Dave > On Oct 10, 2019, at 4:18 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > >> Yes, I saw that which is why I edited directly in the board whimsy. Sorry >> for being late. ApacheCon and the board have been keeping me quite busy. >> : o) But I diid want to sync the incubator version up with my edits. > > Not sure it needs to sync up. The reason I make the report page read only the > report is submitted is so that people don’t edit it and those edits miss > making it into the real board report. This has happened in the past. > >> You don't actually explain why you're opposed to allowing committers >> access. You do say how things are currently, but vetoes should be >> accompanied by an explanation of what you see wrong with the proposal. >> What are you worried might happen? > > Reports are created by PPMC members not committers. It encourages podlings to > keep their PPMC information up to date. It's only this section of the wiki > that is restricted to PPMCs, the rest of the wiki (in general) has the > default permission restrictions. > > Thanks, > Justin > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Open up incubator wiki to all committers
Hi, > Yes, I saw that which is why I edited directly in the board whimsy. Sorry > for being late. ApacheCon and the board have been keeping me quite busy. > : o) But I diid want to sync the incubator version up with my edits. Not sure it needs to sync up. The reason I make the report page read only the report is submitted is so that people don’t edit it and those edits miss making it into the real board report. This has happened in the past. > You don't actually explain why you're opposed to allowing committers > access. You do say how things are currently, but vetoes should be > accompanied by an explanation of what you see wrong with the proposal. > What are you worried might happen? Reports are created by PPMC members not committers. It encourages podlings to keep their PPMC information up to date. It's only this section of the wiki that is restricted to PPMCs, the rest of the wiki (in general) has the default permission restrictions. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Open up incubator wiki to all committers
Hi Justin, On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 2:36 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > HI, > > > I just checked the Weex report for October, and while doing so, I > realized > > that I do not have edit rights to the incubator wiki. > > I think might what have happen here is that the page has been made read > only as the report has been submitted to the board. Note the "FINAL FINAL > FINAL - SUBMITTED TO BOARD - DO NOT EDIT” message at the top of the page :-) > Yes, I saw that which is why I edited directly in the board whimsy. Sorry for being late. ApacheCon and the board have been keeping me quite busy. : o) But I diid want to sync the incubator version up with my edits. You don't actually explain why you're opposed to allowing committers access. You do say how things are currently, but vetoes should be accompanied by an explanation of what you see wrong with the proposal. What are you worried might happen? Note that confluence is version controlled. As long as we don't allow committers to delete, then any mistake anyone might make is reversible. As as I've said, we've had absolutely no problems with this over at ComDev. It has been quite nice to just, for example, ask those who want to participate in the hackathon to enter themselves, and not have to worry about becoming a bottleneck for them. Best Regards, Myrle
Re: Open up incubator wiki to all committers
HI, > I just checked the Weex report for October, and while doing so, I realized > that I do not have edit rights to the incubator wiki. I think might what have happen here is that the page has been made read only as the report has been submitted to the board. Note the "FINAL FINAL FINAL - SUBMITTED TO BOARD - DO NOT EDIT” message at the top of the page :-) Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Open up incubator wiki to all committers
Hi, Myrle given you are on the incubator PMC I’m not sure why you couldn’t edit that page. Here is the list of groups who can currently edit that page, note that both incubator-pmc and weex-pmc have permission to edit that page. amaterasu-pmc annotator-pmc batchee-pmc brpc-pmc crail-pmc Can edit daffodil-pmc Can edit datasketches-pmc dlab-pmc dolphinscheduler-pmc doris-pmc druid-pmc dubbo-pmc echarts-pmc edgent-pmc flagon-pmc gobblin-pmc heron-pmc hivemall-pmc hudi-pmc iceberg-pmc incubator-pmc iotdb-pmc livy-pmc marvin-pmc milagro-pmc mxnet-pmc myriad-pmc nemo-pmc omid-pmc openwhisk-pmc pagespeed-pmc pinot-pmc ponymail-pmc ratis-pmc rya-pmc s2graph-pmc samoa-pmc sdap-pmc shardingsphere-pmc singa-pmc spot-pmc superset-pmc tamaya-pmc taverna-pmc tephra-pmc toree-pmc training-pmc tuweni-pmc tvm-pmc warble-pmc weex-pmc zipkin-pmc Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Open up incubator wiki to all committers
Hi, Sorry but -1 form me. The report section is open to podling PPMC members, each PPMC is added manually and for one reason or another there may be a couple of podlings who have not been added. They can just ask to be added. I don’t think we should open it up to all committers. On occasions where people have asked to add to the report areas I’ve added them as needed, in some cases they have not been committers. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Open up incubator wiki to all committers
Generally/all: please stick to committers ... NOT confluence-users. The latter will bring down the spam. Thx, Greg InfraAdmin, ASF On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 4:40 AM Myrle Krantz wrote: > Hey all, > > I just checked the Weex report for October, and while doing so, I realized > that I do not have edit rights to the incubator wiki. Rather than request > them now, I'd like to make a different suggestion: > > We should add the group "committers" with RW access (but not delete) to the > entire INCUBATOR space. > > We have, historically, spent rather a lot of time granting people access to > our wiki. > > But our recently implemented confluence-LDAP integration makes that > unnecessary. I made the COMDEV confluence space writable for all > committers. So far this has had several advantages and no disadvantages. > It's made it possible for committers of any project to enter themselves for > the ApacheCon EU hackathon without having to ask for permissions, and I > haven't seen any spamming of our spaces from this. > > Do you all see any reason we can't do the same for the incubator confluence > space? > > Best Regards, > Myrle >
Re: Open up incubator wiki to all committers
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019, Myrle Krantz wrote: We should add the group "committers" with RW access (but not delete) to the entire INCUBATOR space. We have, historically, spent rather a lot of time granting people access to our wiki. Makes sense to me. We'd still need to grant permissions to people wanted to make/edit new proposals, but most of the requests from mentors / potential mentors would no longer be needed Nick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Open up incubator wiki to all committers
+1 On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 4:44 PM York Shen wrote: > +1 > > Great idea. It could save everyone’s time in this mailing list, IMO. > > BTW, I just add RW access to all committers in Weex Wiki space. > > Best Regards, > York Shen > > 申远 > > > 2019年10月10日 17:40，Myrle Krantz 写道： > > > > Hey all, > > > > I just checked the Weex report for October, and while doing so, I > realized > > that I do not have edit rights to the incubator wiki. Rather than > request > > them now, I'd like to make a different suggestion: > > > > We should add the group "committers" with RW access (but not delete) to > the > > entire INCUBATOR space. > > > > We have, historically, spent rather a lot of time granting people access > to > > our wiki. > > > > But our recently implemented confluence-LDAP integration makes that > > unnecessary. I made the COMDEV confluence space writable for all > > committers. So far this has had several advantages and no disadvantages. > > It's made it possible for committers of any project to enter themselves > for > > the ApacheCon EU hackathon without having to ask for permissions, and I > > haven't seen any spamming of our spaces from this. > > > > Do you all see any reason we can't do the same for the incubator > confluence > > space? > > > > Best Regards, > > Myrle > >
Re: Open up incubator wiki to all committers
+1 Great idea. It could save everyone’s time in this mailing list, IMO. BTW, I just add RW access to all committers in Weex Wiki space. Best Regards, York Shen 申远 > 2019年10月10日 17:40，Myrle Krantz 写道： > > Hey all, > > I just checked the Weex report for October, and while doing so, I realized > that I do not have edit rights to the incubator wiki. Rather than request > them now, I'd like to make a different suggestion: > > We should add the group "committers" with RW access (but not delete) to the > entire INCUBATOR space. > > We have, historically, spent rather a lot of time granting people access to > our wiki. > > But our recently implemented confluence-LDAP integration makes that > unnecessary. I made the COMDEV confluence space writable for all > committers. So far this has had several advantages and no disadvantages. > It's made it possible for committers of any project to enter themselves for > the ApacheCon EU hackathon without having to ask for permissions, and I > haven't seen any spamming of our spaces from this. > > Do you all see any reason we can't do the same for the incubator confluence > space? > > Best Regards, > Myrle
Open up incubator wiki to all committers
Hey all, I just checked the Weex report for October, and while doing so, I realized that I do not have edit rights to the incubator wiki. Rather than request them now, I'd like to make a different suggestion: We should add the group "committers" with RW access (but not delete) to the entire INCUBATOR space. We have, historically, spent rather a lot of time granting people access to our wiki. But our recently implemented confluence-LDAP integration makes that unnecessary. I made the COMDEV confluence space writable for all committers. So far this has had several advantages and no disadvantages. It's made it possible for committers of any project to enter themselves for the ApacheCon EU hackathon without having to ask for permissions, and I haven't seen any spamming of our spaces from this. Do you all see any reason we can't do the same for the incubator confluence space? Best Regards, Myrle
