Re: [Discuss] Apache Cassandra as a TLP
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote: Greetings, The Cassandra community has successfully voted for graduation[1]. Before calling for a recommendation vote, I'd like to see if anyone here has any concerns or objections, or has any feedback on the draft resolution. Regards, [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.cassandra.user/1875 Other than the PMC makeup which is being taken care of one thing that sometimes causes debate is the resolution words, so to highlight that to try to avoid voting hiccups: ...creation and maintenance of open-source software related to fully distributed storage of structured data, ... Does anyone have any issues or comments with that? ...ant - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [Discuss] Apache Cassandra as a TLP
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Matthieu Riou matthieu.r...@gmail.com wrote: ...By the way if you have a few minutes, some feedback about the resolution that Eric attached would be cool... The resolution looks good to me, but the proposed PMC is really small: * Jonathan Ellisjbel...@apache.org * Eric Evanseev...@apache.org * Jun Rao jun...@apache.org * Chris Goffinetgoffi...@apache.org And all of its members are currently active in Cassandra only. Would it be possible for (some of) the mentors to stay onboard for a while? With only 4 PMC members to start with, the risk of being unable to get 3 votes on issues is real. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [Discuss] Apache Cassandra as a TLP
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Matthieu Riou matthieu.r...@gmail.com wrote: ...By the way if you have a few minutes, some feedback about the resolution that Eric attached would be cool... The resolution looks good to me, but the proposed PMC is really small: * Jonathan Ellis jbel...@apache.org * Eric Evans eev...@apache.org * Jun Rao jun...@apache.org * Chris Goffinet goffi...@apache.org And all of its members are currently active in Cassandra only. Would it be possible for (some of) the mentors to stay onboard for a while? With only 4 PMC members to start with, the risk of being unable to get 3 votes on issues is real. that's a good point, Bertrand. Those that are involved in other communities are the mentors, like Torsten, Matthieu or Brian (according to [1]). Looks like the only exception is Johan Oskarsson, but I am not to familiar with the community itself and its activity. However I noted that Johan voted for the graduation... I am also not sure why the proposed PMC is that small. Some try to expand their PPMC during incubation with all the active folks (mailings and commits). So, I am not sure on the reason why there is this small (P)PMC. -Matthias [1] http://people.apache.org/~jim/committers.html -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [Discuss] Apache Cassandra as a TLP
I echo Matthieu's comments about Cassandra being ready to graduate, I'll vote +1 for it in a vote. Not sure if that PMC list is actually the complete list as I thought there was talk of adding others, i'll ask about it on their private list. ...ant On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Matthieu Riou matthieu.r...@gmail.com wrote: ...By the way if you have a few minutes, some feedback about the resolution that Eric attached would be cool... The resolution looks good to me, but the proposed PMC is really small: * Jonathan Ellis jbel...@apache.org * Eric Evans eev...@apache.org * Jun Rao jun...@apache.org * Chris Goffinet goffi...@apache.org And all of its members are currently active in Cassandra only. Would it be possible for (some of) the mentors to stay onboard for a while? With only 4 PMC members to start with, the risk of being unable to get 3 votes on issues is real. that's a good point, Bertrand. Those that are involved in other communities are the mentors, like Torsten, Matthieu or Brian (according to [1]). Looks like the only exception is Johan Oskarsson, but I am not to familiar with the community itself and its activity. However I noted that Johan voted for the graduation... I am also not sure why the proposed PMC is that small. Some try to expand their PPMC during incubation with all the active folks (mailings and commits). So, I am not sure on the reason why there is this small (P)PMC. -Matthias [1] http://people.apache.org/~jim/committers.html -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [Discuss] Apache Cassandra as a TLP
The relative smallness of the PMC is more a result of Cassandra's history I think. They've started really small (basically one active committer) and added committers gradually. Those committers have been elected in the PPMC usually one to two months after their election, you can check the archives. The pace has been accelerating lately so a few committers are in the pipeline for PMC. I wouldn't read any more than that in the PMC size. For the record, my first PPMC (ODE) was elected with more names but the same amount of active ones. And that was a bit painful, a tight PMC will help them get a quicker vote turnaround. That being said, I've already mentioned on Cassandra's mailing lists that I'd be sticking around a little longer as a member. If you see that it would facilitate things, I'd be happy to do it as a PMC member as well. Thanks, Matthieu On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:00 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: I echo Matthieu's comments about Cassandra being ready to graduate, I'll vote +1 for it in a vote. Not sure if that PMC list is actually the complete list as I thought there was talk of adding others, i'll ask about it on their private list. ...ant On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Matthieu Riou matthieu.r...@gmail.com wrote: ...By the way if you have a few minutes, some feedback about the resolution that Eric attached would be cool... The resolution looks good to me, but the proposed PMC is really small: * Jonathan Ellisjbel...@apache.org * Eric Evanseev...@apache.org * Jun Rao jun...@apache.org * Chris Goffinetgoffi...@apache.org And all of its members are currently active in Cassandra only. Would it be possible for (some of) the mentors to stay onboard for a while? With only 4 PMC members to start with, the risk of being unable to get 3 votes on issues is real. that's a good point, Bertrand. Those that are involved in other communities are the mentors, like Torsten, Matthieu or Brian (according to [1]). Looks like the only exception is Johan Oskarsson, but I am not to familiar with the community itself and its activity. However I noted that Johan voted for the graduation... I am also not sure why the proposed PMC is that small. Some try to expand their PPMC during incubation with all the active folks (mailings and commits). So, I am not sure on the reason why there is this small (P)PMC. -Matthias [1] http://people.apache.org/~jim/committers.htmlhttp://people.apache.org/%7Ejim/committers.html -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [Discuss] Apache Cassandra as a TLP
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote: ...There was another thread started on cassandra-private (by a mentor), where the mentors voted. I don't know if that is archived, or who would have access, but I'm sure that either way they'll sound off here Cool - let's hear what they have to say then! -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [Discuss] Apache Cassandra as a TLP
Yeah, the dicussion started on private as Eric mentioned and that's what triggered the vote on d...@. We should really have re-voted the dev thread to avoid confusion. Anyhow, my strong opinion is that Cassandra is ready. Great community, great contributors, dynamic and fast moving without compromising stability. I personally have no hesitation. By the way if you have a few minutes, some feedback about the resolution that Eric attached would be cool. Thanks, Matthieu On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote: ...There was another thread started on cassandra-private (by a mentor), where the mentors voted. I don't know if that is archived, or who would have access, but I'm sure that either way they'll sound off here Cool - let's hear what they have to say then! -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
