Re: [VOTE][LAZY] the Incubator as a service provider for podlings (was: overzealous bureaucracy...)
On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:12 AM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > ...I'm planning to merge #12 in the next few days unless someone from the > Incubator PMC objects... I have merged that now, thanks for the comments and contributions there, the content is now live at http://incubator.apache.org/ -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE][LAZY] the Incubator as a service provider for podlings (was: overzealous bureaucracy...)
+1 Regards JB Le 19 juil. 2019 à 14:42, à 14:42, Kenneth Knowles a écrit: >+1 and I do like the new text. > >On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 9:43 PM Kevin A. McGrail >wrote: > >> +1 >> -- >> Kevin A. McGrail >> Member, Apache Software Foundation >> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 9:54 AM Jim Jagielski >wrote: >> >> > Agreed. I think some of the conversation on that thread was likely >> > polarizing and heated and my hope is that it isn't continued in >this >> thread >> > (whether it was self-justified as being "ham-handed" or not). >> > >> > > On Jul 18, 2019, at 4:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < >> bdelacre...@apache.org> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > As discussed in the "overzealous bureaucracy" thread, I suggest >> > > changing the text on the http://incubator.apache.org/ homepage to >> > > present the Incubator as a service provider for podlings. >> > > >> > > I think the current description can be understood as the >Incubator >> > > being a"stern gatekeeper to the ASF" and that's not good. >> > > >> > > Defining the Incubator a service provider will give us a >documented >> > > basis to adapt our tone and processes if we (or podlings) notice >that >> > > we're being a stern gatekeeper again, as has happened in the >past. >> > > >> > > If people agree with the general idea we can discuss the details >of >> > > the new text at https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/12 if >needed. >> > > >> > > I suggest using this thread more to discuss (and hopefully >approve ;-) >> > > the general idea of this change. >> > > >> > > I'm planning to merge #12 in the next few days unless someone >from the >> > > Incubator PMC objects. >> > > >> > > -Bertrand >> > > >> > > >- >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: >general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > >> > >> > >> > >- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > >> > >>
Re: [VOTE][LAZY] the Incubator as a service provider for podlings (was: overzealous bureaucracy...)
+1 and I do like the new text. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 9:43 PM Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > +1 > -- > Kevin A. McGrail > Member, Apache Software Foundation > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 9:54 AM Jim Jagielski wrote: > > > Agreed. I think some of the conversation on that thread was likely > > polarizing and heated and my hope is that it isn't continued in this > thread > > (whether it was self-justified as being "ham-handed" or not). > > > > > On Jul 18, 2019, at 4:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > bdelacre...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > As discussed in the "overzealous bureaucracy" thread, I suggest > > > changing the text on the http://incubator.apache.org/ homepage to > > > present the Incubator as a service provider for podlings. > > > > > > I think the current description can be understood as the Incubator > > > being a"stern gatekeeper to the ASF" and that's not good. > > > > > > Defining the Incubator a service provider will give us a documented > > > basis to adapt our tone and processes if we (or podlings) notice that > > > we're being a stern gatekeeper again, as has happened in the past. > > > > > > If people agree with the general idea we can discuss the details of > > > the new text at https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/12 if needed. > > > > > > I suggest using this thread more to discuss (and hopefully approve ;-) > > > the general idea of this change. > > > > > > I'm planning to merge #12 in the next few days unless someone from the > > > Incubator PMC objects. > > > > > > -Bertrand > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > >
Re: [VOTE][LAZY] the Incubator as a service provider for podlings (was: overzealous bureaucracy...)
+1 -- Kevin A. McGrail Member, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 9:54 AM Jim Jagielski wrote: > Agreed. I think some of the conversation on that thread was likely > polarizing and heated and my hope is that it isn't continued in this thread > (whether it was self-justified as being "ham-handed" or not). > > > On Jul 18, 2019, at 4:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > As discussed in the "overzealous bureaucracy" thread, I suggest > > changing the text on the http://incubator.apache.org/ homepage to > > present the Incubator as a service provider for podlings. > > > > I think the current description can be understood as the Incubator > > being a"stern gatekeeper to the ASF" and that's not good. > > > > Defining the Incubator a service provider will give us a documented > > basis to adapt our tone and processes if we (or podlings) notice that > > we're being a stern gatekeeper again, as has happened in the past. > > > > If people agree with the general idea we can discuss the details of > > the new text at https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/12 if needed. > > > > I suggest using this thread more to discuss (and hopefully approve ;-) > > the general idea of this change. > > > > I'm planning to merge #12 in the next few days unless someone from the > > Incubator PMC objects. > > > > -Bertrand > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE][LAZY] the Incubator as a service provider for podlings (was: overzealous bureaucracy...)
Agreed. I think some of the conversation on that thread was likely polarizing and heated and my hope is that it isn't continued in this thread (whether it was self-justified as being "ham-handed" or not). > On Jul 18, 2019, at 4:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > Hi, > > As discussed in the "overzealous bureaucracy" thread, I suggest > changing the text on the http://incubator.apache.org/ homepage to > present the Incubator as a service provider for podlings. > > I think the current description can be understood as the Incubator > being a"stern gatekeeper to the ASF" and that's not good. > > Defining the Incubator a service provider will give us a documented > basis to adapt our tone and processes if we (or podlings) notice that > we're being a stern gatekeeper again, as has happened in the past. > > If people agree with the general idea we can discuss the details of > the new text at https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/12 if needed. > > I suggest using this thread more to discuss (and hopefully approve ;-) > the general idea of this change. > > I'm planning to merge #12 in the next few days unless someone from the > Incubator PMC objects. > > -Bertrand > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE][LAZY] the Incubator as a service provider for podlings (was: overzealous bureaucracy...)
That sounds good to me (the general idea at least). On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 1:12 AM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > As discussed in the "overzealous bureaucracy" thread, I suggest > changing the text on the http://incubator.apache.org/ homepage to > present the Incubator as a service provider for podlings. > > I think the current description can be understood as the Incubator > being a"stern gatekeeper to the ASF" and that's not good. > > Defining the Incubator a service provider will give us a documented > basis to adapt our tone and processes if we (or podlings) notice that > we're being a stern gatekeeper again, as has happened in the past. > > If people agree with the general idea we can discuss the details of > the new text at https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/12 if needed. > > I suggest using this thread more to discuss (and hopefully approve ;-) > the general idea of this change. > > I'm planning to merge #12 in the next few days unless someone from the > Incubator PMC objects. > > -Bertrand > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
