Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL] EasyAnt incubator

2011-01-30 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
+1


Regards,
Alan

On Jan 24, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote:

> I would like to present for a vote the following proposal to be sponsored by
> the Ant PMC for a new "EasyAnt" podling.
> 
> The proposal is available on the wiki at and included below:
> 
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EasyAntProposal
> 
> [] +1 to accept EasyAnt into the Incubator
> [] 0 don't care
> [] -1 object and reason why.
> 
> Thanks,
> Antoine Levy-Lambert
> 
> --- Proposal text from the wiki ---
> 
> 
> EasyAnt Proposal
> 
> The following presents the proposal for creating a new EasyAnt project within 
> the Apache Software Foundation.
> 
> = Abstract =
> 
> Easyant is a build system based on Apache Ant and Apache Ivy.
> 
> = Proposal =
> 
> EasyAnt goals are :
> 
> * to leverage popularity and flexibility of Ant.
> * to integrate Apache Ivy, such that the build system combines a ready-to-use 
> dependency manager.
> * to simplify standard build types, such as building web applications, JARs 
> etc, by providing ready to use builds.
> * to provide conventions and guidelines.
> * to make plugging-in of fresh functionalities easy as writing simple Ant 
> scripts as Easyant plugins.
> 
> To still remain adaptable,
> 
> * Though Easyant comes with a lot of conventions, we never lock you in.
> * Easyant allows you to easily extend existing modules or create and use your 
> own modules.
> * Easyant makes migration from Ant very simple. Your legacy Ant scripts could 
> still be leveraged with Easyant.
> 
> = Rationale =
> 
> On the Ivy and Ant mailing list, an often asked question is "Why Ivy is not 
> shipped with Ant ?". Ant users (and some opponents) complains also about the 
> bootstrapping of an Ant based build system: it is mainly about copying an 
> existing one. EasyAnt is intended to response to both of these requirements: 
> a prepackaged Ant + Ivy solution with standard build script ready to be used.
> 
> Also taking inspiration from the success of Apache Maven, EasyAnt is adopting 
> the "convention over configuration" principle. Then it could be easy to build 
> standard project at least for all commons steps (no more need to reinvent the 
> wheel between each projects). The "common" part should be easy enough to tune 
> parameters without having deep ant knowledge (example changing the default 
> directory of sources, force compilation to be java 1.4 compatible, etc...).
> 
> Last but not least, EasyAnt is intended to provide a plugin based 
> architecture to make it easy to contribute on a specific step of the build. 
> Build plugins are pieces of functionality that can be plugged into or removed 
> from a project. Plugins could actually perform a piece of your regular build, 
> e.g. compile java classes during build of a complete war. Or, do a utility 
> action, e.g. deploy your built web application onto a packaged Jetty server!
> 
> = Current Status =
> 
> == Meritocracy ==
> 
> Some of the core developers are already committers and members of the Apache 
> Ant PMC, so they understand what it means to have a process based on 
> meritocracy.
> 
> == Community ==
> 
> EasyAnt have a really small community (around 100 downloads per release). It 
> is not a problem as the team is currently making restructuring changes. The 
> team plans to make more promotion after those changes and strongly believe 
> that community is the priority as the tool is designed to be easy to use.
> 
> == Core Developers ==
> 
> Xavier Hanin and Nicolas Lalev∂¡™ée are members of the PMC of Apache Ant.
> Jerome Benois is an Acceleo committer, he was a committer in Eclipse MDT 
> Papyrus for two years and he's an active contributor in Eclipse Modeling and 
> Model Driven community. He's a committer on Bushel project now contribute to 
> the Ivy code base. He leads the EasyAnt for Eclipse plugin development.
> Jason Trump is leading Beet project on sourceforge 
> (http://beet.sourceforge.net/).
> Jean-Louis Boudart is Hudson committer.
> 
> == Alignment ==
> 
> EasyAnt is based on Apache Ant and Ivy. Being part of Apache could help for a 
> closer collaboration between projects.
> The team plans to reinject as much as possible stuff into Ant or Ivy like 
> they've done in the past on :
> * extensionPoint : kind of IoC for targets (Ant)
> * import/include mechanism (Ant)
> * module inheritance (Ivy)
> 
> = Known risks =
> 
> == Orphaned products ==
> 
> Jean-Louis Boudart is the main developer of EasyAnt. Other developers got 
> interested in this project and are now touching to every aspect of EasyAnt. 
> Thus the risk of being orphaned is quite limited.
> 
> == Inexperience with Open Source ==
> 
> Many of the committers have experience working on open source projects. Two 
> of them have experience as committers on other Apache projects.
> 
> == Homogenous Developers ==
> 
> The existing committers are spread over a number of countries and employers.
> 
> == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
> 
> None of the developers rely on E

Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL] EasyAnt incubator

2011-01-26 Thread Jim Jagielski
+1 (binding)

On Jan 25, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Marcel Offermans wrote:

> +1
> 
> Greetings, Marcel
> 
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Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL] EasyAnt incubator

2011-01-26 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert

Hello Ant,


On 1/26/2011 7:25 AM, ant elder wrote:

+1

You only have two mentors, if you need a third i would help out.

Welcome. Please feel free to add your name on the proposal on the wiki under

http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EasyAntProposal



...ant


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Antoine

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Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL] EasyAnt incubator

2011-01-26 Thread ant elder
+1

You only have two mentors, if you need a third i would help out.

   ...ant

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Antoine Levy-Lambert  wrote:
> I would like to present for a vote the following proposal to be sponsored by
> the Ant PMC for a new "EasyAnt" podling.
>
> The proposal is available on the wiki at and included below:
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EasyAntProposal
>
> [] +1 to accept EasyAnt into the Incubator
> [] 0 don't care
> [] -1 object and reason why.
>
> Thanks,
> Antoine Levy-Lambert
>
> --- Proposal text from the wiki ---
>
>
> EasyAnt Proposal
>
> The following presents the proposal for creating a new EasyAnt project
> within the Apache Software Foundation.
>
> = Abstract =
>
> Easyant is a build system based on Apache Ant and Apache Ivy.
>
> = Proposal =
>
> EasyAnt goals are :
>
> * to leverage popularity and flexibility of Ant.
> * to integrate Apache Ivy, such that the build system combines a
> ready-to-use dependency manager.
> * to simplify standard build types, such as building web applications, JARs
> etc, by providing ready to use builds.
> * to provide conventions and guidelines.
> * to make plugging-in of fresh functionalities easy as writing simple Ant
> scripts as Easyant plugins.
>
> To still remain adaptable,
>
> * Though Easyant comes with a lot of conventions, we never lock you in.
> * Easyant allows you to easily extend existing modules or create and use
> your own modules.
> * Easyant makes migration from Ant very simple. Your legacy Ant scripts
> could still be leveraged with Easyant.
>
> = Rationale =
>
> On the Ivy and Ant mailing list, an often asked question is "Why Ivy is not
> shipped with Ant ?". Ant users (and some opponents) complains also about the
> bootstrapping of an Ant based build system: it is mainly about copying an
> existing one. EasyAnt is intended to response to both of these requirements:
> a prepackaged Ant + Ivy solution with standard build script ready to be
> used.
>
> Also taking inspiration from the success of Apache Maven, EasyAnt is
> adopting the "convention over configuration" principle. Then it could be
> easy to build standard project at least for all commons steps (no more need
> to reinvent the wheel between each projects). The "common" part should be
> easy enough to tune parameters without having deep ant knowledge (example
> changing the default directory of sources, force compilation to be java 1.4
> compatible, etc...).
>
> Last but not least, EasyAnt is intended to provide a plugin based
> architecture to make it easy to contribute on a specific step of the build.
> Build plugins are pieces of functionality that can be plugged into or
> removed from a project. Plugins could actually perform a piece of your
> regular build, e.g. compile java classes during build of a complete war. Or,
> do a utility action, e.g. deploy your built web application onto a packaged
> Jetty server!
>
> = Current Status =
>
> == Meritocracy ==
>
> Some of the core developers are already committers and members of the Apache
> Ant PMC, so they understand what it means to have a process based on
> meritocracy.
>
> == Community ==
>
> EasyAnt have a really small community (around 100 downloads per release). It
> is not a problem as the team is currently making restructuring changes. The
> team plans to make more promotion after those changes and strongly believe
> that community is the priority as the tool is designed to be easy to use.
>
> == Core Developers ==
>
> Xavier Hanin and Nicolas Lalev ¡ ée are members of the PMC of Apache Ant.
> Jerome Benois is an Acceleo committer, he was a committer in Eclipse MDT
> Papyrus for two years and he's an active contributor in Eclipse Modeling and
> Model Driven community. He's a committer on Bushel project now contribute to
> the Ivy code base. He leads the EasyAnt for Eclipse plugin development.
> Jason Trump is leading Beet project on sourceforge
> (http://beet.sourceforge.net/).
> Jean-Louis Boudart is Hudson committer.
>
> == Alignment ==
>
> EasyAnt is based on Apache Ant and Ivy. Being part of Apache could help for
> a closer collaboration between projects.
> The team plans to reinject as much as possible stuff into Ant or Ivy like
> they've done in the past on :
> * extensionPoint : kind of IoC for targets (Ant)
> * import/include mechanism (Ant)
> * module inheritance (Ivy)
>
> = Known risks =
>
> == Orphaned products ==
>
> Jean-Louis Boudart is the main developer of EasyAnt. Other developers got
> interested in this project and are now touching to every aspect of EasyAnt.
> Thus the risk of being orphaned is quite limited.
>
> == Inexperience with Open Source ==
>
> Many of the committers have experience working on open source projects. Two
> of them have experience as committers on other Apache projects.
>
> == Homogenous Developers ==
>
> The existing committers are spread over a number of countries and employers.
>
> == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
>
> None of the developers rely on E

Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL] EasyAnt incubator

2011-01-25 Thread Xavier Hanin
+1 (non binding)

Xavier

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 18:14, Antoine Levy-Lambert  wrote:

> I would like to present for a vote the following proposal to be sponsored
> by
> the Ant PMC for a new "EasyAnt" podling.
>
> The proposal is available on the wiki at and included below:
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EasyAntProposal
>
> [] +1 to accept EasyAnt into the Incubator
> [] 0 don't care
> [] -1 object and reason why.
>
> Thanks,
> Antoine Levy-Lambert
>
> --- Proposal text from the wiki ---
>
>
> EasyAnt Proposal
>
> The following presents the proposal for creating a new EasyAnt project
> within the Apache Software Foundation.
>
> = Abstract =
>
> Easyant is a build system based on Apache Ant and Apache Ivy.
>
> = Proposal =
>
> EasyAnt goals are :
>
> * to leverage popularity and flexibility of Ant.
> * to integrate Apache Ivy, such that the build system combines a
> ready-to-use dependency manager.
> * to simplify standard build types, such as building web applications, JARs
> etc, by providing ready to use builds.
> * to provide conventions and guidelines.
> * to make plugging-in of fresh functionalities easy as writing simple Ant
> scripts as Easyant plugins.
>
> To still remain adaptable,
>
> * Though Easyant comes with a lot of conventions, we never lock you in.
> * Easyant allows you to easily extend existing modules or create and use
> your own modules.
> * Easyant makes migration from Ant very simple. Your legacy Ant scripts
> could still be leveraged with Easyant.
>
> = Rationale =
>
> On the Ivy and Ant mailing list, an often asked question is "Why Ivy is not
> shipped with Ant ?". Ant users (and some opponents) complains also about the
> bootstrapping of an Ant based build system: it is mainly about copying an
> existing one. EasyAnt is intended to response to both of these requirements:
> a prepackaged Ant + Ivy solution with standard build script ready to be
> used.
>
> Also taking inspiration from the success of Apache Maven, EasyAnt is
> adopting the "convention over configuration" principle. Then it could be
> easy to build standard project at least for all commons steps (no more need
> to reinvent the wheel between each projects). The "common" part should be
> easy enough to tune parameters without having deep ant knowledge (example
> changing the default directory of sources, force compilation to be java 1.4
> compatible, etc...).
>
> Last but not least, EasyAnt is intended to provide a plugin based
> architecture to make it easy to contribute on a specific step of the build.
> Build plugins are pieces of functionality that can be plugged into or
> removed from a project. Plugins could actually perform a piece of your
> regular build, e.g. compile java classes during build of a complete war. Or,
> do a utility action, e.g. deploy your built web application onto a packaged
> Jetty server!
>
> = Current Status =
>
> == Meritocracy ==
>
> Some of the core developers are already committers and members of the
> Apache Ant PMC, so they understand what it means to have a process based on
> meritocracy.
>
> == Community ==
>
> EasyAnt have a really small community (around 100 downloads per release).
> It is not a problem as the team is currently making restructuring changes.
> The team plans to make more promotion after those changes and strongly
> believe that community is the priority as the tool is designed to be easy to
> use.
>
> == Core Developers ==
>
> Xavier Hanin and Nicolas Lalev ¡ ée are members of the PMC of Apache Ant.
> Jerome Benois is an Acceleo committer, he was a committer in Eclipse MDT
> Papyrus for two years and he's an active contributor in Eclipse Modeling and
> Model Driven community. He's a committer on Bushel project now contribute to
> the Ivy code base. He leads the EasyAnt for Eclipse plugin development.
> Jason Trump is leading Beet project on sourceforge (
> http://beet.sourceforge.net/).
> Jean-Louis Boudart is Hudson committer.
>
> == Alignment ==
>
> EasyAnt is based on Apache Ant and Ivy. Being part of Apache could help for
> a closer collaboration between projects.
> The team plans to reinject as much as possible stuff into Ant or Ivy like
> they've done in the past on :
> * extensionPoint : kind of IoC for targets (Ant)
> * import/include mechanism (Ant)
> * module inheritance (Ivy)
>
> = Known risks =
>
> == Orphaned products ==
>
> Jean-Louis Boudart is the main developer of EasyAnt. Other developers got
> interested in this project and are now touching to every aspect of EasyAnt.
> Thus the risk of being orphaned is quite limited.
>
> == Inexperience with Open Source ==
>
> Many of the committers have experience working on open source projects. Two
> of them have experience as committers on other Apache projects.
>
> == Homogenous Developers ==
>
> The existing committers are spread over a number of countries and
> employers.
>
> == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
>
> None of the developers rely on EasyAnt for consulting work.
>
> == Relationships 

Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL] EasyAnt incubator

2011-01-25 Thread Craig L Russell

enthusiastic +1

Craig

On Jan 24, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote:

I would like to present for a vote the following proposal to be  
sponsored by

the Ant PMC for a new "EasyAnt" podling.

The proposal is available on the wiki at and included below:

http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EasyAntProposal

[] +1 to accept EasyAnt into the Incubator
[] 0 don't care
[] -1 object and reason why.

Thanks,
Antoine Levy-Lambert

--- Proposal text from the wiki ---


EasyAnt Proposal

The following presents the proposal for creating a new EasyAnt  
project within the Apache Software Foundation.


= Abstract =

Easyant is a build system based on Apache Ant and Apache Ivy.

= Proposal =

EasyAnt goals are :

* to leverage popularity and flexibility of Ant.
* to integrate Apache Ivy, such that the build system combines a  
ready-to-use dependency manager.
* to simplify standard build types, such as building web  
applications, JARs etc, by providing ready to use builds.

* to provide conventions and guidelines.
* to make plugging-in of fresh functionalities easy as writing  
simple Ant scripts as Easyant plugins.


To still remain adaptable,

* Though Easyant comes with a lot of conventions, we never lock you  
in.
* Easyant allows you to easily extend existing modules or create and  
use your own modules.
* Easyant makes migration from Ant very simple. Your legacy Ant  
scripts could still be leveraged with Easyant.


= Rationale =

On the Ivy and Ant mailing list, an often asked question is "Why Ivy  
is not shipped with Ant ?". Ant users (and some opponents) complains  
also about the bootstrapping of an Ant based build system: it is  
mainly about copying an existing one. EasyAnt is intended to  
response to both of these requirements: a prepackaged Ant + Ivy  
solution with standard build script ready to be used.


Also taking inspiration from the success of Apache Maven, EasyAnt is  
adopting the "convention over configuration" principle. Then it  
could be easy to build standard project at least for all commons  
steps (no more need to reinvent the wheel between each projects).  
The "common" part should be easy enough to tune parameters without  
having deep ant knowledge (example changing the default directory of  
sources, force compilation to be java 1.4 compatible, etc...).


Last but not least, EasyAnt is intended to provide a plugin based  
architecture to make it easy to contribute on a specific step of the  
build. Build plugins are pieces of functionality that can be plugged  
into or removed from a project. Plugins could actually perform a  
piece of your regular build, e.g. compile java classes during build  
of a complete war. Or, do a utility action, e.g. deploy your built  
web application onto a packaged Jetty server!


= Current Status =

== Meritocracy ==

Some of the core developers are already committers and members of  
the Apache Ant PMC, so they understand what it means to have a  
process based on meritocracy.


== Community ==

EasyAnt have a really small community (around 100 downloads per  
release). It is not a problem as the team is currently making  
restructuring changes. The team plans to make more promotion after  
those changes and strongly believe that community is the priority as  
the tool is designed to be easy to use.


== Core Developers ==

Xavier Hanin and Nicolas Lalev∂¡™ée are members of the PMC of  
Apache Ant.
Jerome Benois is an Acceleo committer, he was a committer in Eclipse  
MDT Papyrus for two years and he's an active contributor in Eclipse  
Modeling and Model Driven community. He's a committer on Bushel  
project now contribute to the Ivy code base. He leads the EasyAnt  
for Eclipse plugin development.
Jason Trump is leading Beet project on sourceforge (http://beet.sourceforge.net/ 
).

Jean-Louis Boudart is Hudson committer.

== Alignment ==

EasyAnt is based on Apache Ant and Ivy. Being part of Apache could  
help for a closer collaboration between projects.
The team plans to reinject as much as possible stuff into Ant or Ivy  
like they've done in the past on :

* extensionPoint : kind of IoC for targets (Ant)
* import/include mechanism (Ant)
* module inheritance (Ivy)

= Known risks =

== Orphaned products ==

Jean-Louis Boudart is the main developer of EasyAnt. Other  
developers got interested in this project and are now touching to  
every aspect of EasyAnt. Thus the risk of being orphaned is quite  
limited.


== Inexperience with Open Source ==

Many of the committers have experience working on open source  
projects. Two of them have experience as committers on other Apache  
projects.


== Homogenous Developers ==

The existing committers are spread over a number of countries and  
employers.


== Reliance on Salaried Developers ==

None of the developers rely on EasyAnt for consulting work.

== Relationships with Other Apache Products ==

As already stated above, EasyAnt is intended to have a quite good  
integration with both Apache 

Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL] EasyAnt incubator

2011-01-25 Thread Marcel Offermans
+1

Greetings, Marcel


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Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL] EasyAnt incubator

2011-01-25 Thread Doug Cutting

+1

Doug

On 01/24/2011 09:14 AM, Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote:

I would like to present for a vote the following proposal to be
sponsored by
the Ant PMC for a new "EasyAnt" podling.

The proposal is available on the wiki at and included below:

http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EasyAntProposal

[] +1 to accept EasyAnt into the Incubator
[] 0 don't care
[] -1 object and reason why.

Thanks,
Antoine Levy-Lambert

--- Proposal text from the wiki ---


EasyAnt Proposal

The following presents the proposal for creating a new EasyAnt project
within the Apache Software Foundation.

= Abstract =

Easyant is a build system based on Apache Ant and Apache Ivy.

= Proposal =

EasyAnt goals are :

* to leverage popularity and flexibility of Ant.
* to integrate Apache Ivy, such that the build system combines a
ready-to-use dependency manager.
* to simplify standard build types, such as building web applications,
JARs etc, by providing ready to use builds.
* to provide conventions and guidelines.
* to make plugging-in of fresh functionalities easy as writing simple
Ant scripts as Easyant plugins.

To still remain adaptable,

* Though Easyant comes with a lot of conventions, we never lock you in.
* Easyant allows you to easily extend existing modules or create and use
your own modules.
* Easyant makes migration from Ant very simple. Your legacy Ant scripts
could still be leveraged with Easyant.

= Rationale =

On the Ivy and Ant mailing list, an often asked question is "Why Ivy is
not shipped with Ant ?". Ant users (and some opponents) complains also
about the bootstrapping of an Ant based build system: it is mainly about
copying an existing one. EasyAnt is intended to response to both of
these requirements: a prepackaged Ant + Ivy solution with standard build
script ready to be used.

Also taking inspiration from the success of Apache Maven, EasyAnt is
adopting the "convention over configuration" principle. Then it could be
easy to build standard project at least for all commons steps (no more
need to reinvent the wheel between each projects). The "common" part
should be easy enough to tune parameters without having deep ant
knowledge (example changing the default directory of sources, force
compilation to be java 1.4 compatible, etc...).

Last but not least, EasyAnt is intended to provide a plugin based
architecture to make it easy to contribute on a specific step of the
build. Build plugins are pieces of functionality that can be plugged
into or removed from a project. Plugins could actually perform a piece
of your regular build, e.g. compile java classes during build of a
complete war. Or, do a utility action, e.g. deploy your built web
application onto a packaged Jetty server!

= Current Status =

== Meritocracy ==

Some of the core developers are already committers and members of the
Apache Ant PMC, so they understand what it means to have a process based
on meritocracy.

== Community ==

EasyAnt have a really small community (around 100 downloads per
release). It is not a problem as the team is currently making
restructuring changes. The team plans to make more promotion after those
changes and strongly believe that community is the priority as the tool
is designed to be easy to use.

== Core Developers ==

Xavier Hanin and Nicolas Lalev�¡�ée are members of the PMC of Apache Ant.
Jerome Benois is an Acceleo committer, he was a committer in Eclipse MDT
Papyrus for two years and he's an active contributor in Eclipse Modeling
and Model Driven community. He's a committer on Bushel project now
contribute to the Ivy code base. He leads the EasyAnt for Eclipse plugin
development.
Jason Trump is leading Beet project on sourceforge
(http://beet.sourceforge.net/).
Jean-Louis Boudart is Hudson committer.

== Alignment ==

EasyAnt is based on Apache Ant and Ivy. Being part of Apache could help
for a closer collaboration between projects.
The team plans to reinject as much as possible stuff into Ant or Ivy
like they've done in the past on :
* extensionPoint : kind of IoC for targets (Ant)
* import/include mechanism (Ant)
* module inheritance (Ivy)

= Known risks =

== Orphaned products ==

Jean-Louis Boudart is the main developer of EasyAnt. Other developers
got interested in this project and are now touching to every aspect of
EasyAnt. Thus the risk of being orphaned is quite limited.

== Inexperience with Open Source ==

Many of the committers have experience working on open source projects.
Two of them have experience as committers on other Apache projects.

== Homogenous Developers ==

The existing committers are spread over a number of countries and
employers.

== Reliance on Salaried Developers ==

None of the developers rely on EasyAnt for consulting work.

== Relationships with Other Apache Products ==

As already stated above, EasyAnt is intended to have a quite good
integration with both Apache Ant and Apache Ivy.

== A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==

As we're already based on many Apache project (Ant +

Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL] EasyAnt incubator

2011-01-25 Thread dsh
[X] +1 to accept EasyAnt into the Incubator
[] 0 don't care
[] -1 object and reason why.

Cheers
Daniel

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Antoine Levy-Lambert  wrote:
> I would like to present for a vote the following proposal to be sponsored by
> the Ant PMC for a new "EasyAnt" podling.
>
> The proposal is available on the wiki at and included below:
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EasyAntProposal
>
> [] +1 to accept EasyAnt into the Incubator
> [] 0 don't care
> [] -1 object and reason why.
>
> Thanks,
> Antoine Levy-Lambert
>
> --- Proposal text from the wiki ---
>
>
> EasyAnt Proposal
>
> The following presents the proposal for creating a new EasyAnt project
> within the Apache Software Foundation.
>
> = Abstract =
>
> Easyant is a build system based on Apache Ant and Apache Ivy.
>
> = Proposal =
>
> EasyAnt goals are :
>
> * to leverage popularity and flexibility of Ant.
> * to integrate Apache Ivy, such that the build system combines a
> ready-to-use dependency manager.
> * to simplify standard build types, such as building web applications, JARs
> etc, by providing ready to use builds.
> * to provide conventions and guidelines.
> * to make plugging-in of fresh functionalities easy as writing simple Ant
> scripts as Easyant plugins.
>
> To still remain adaptable,
>
> * Though Easyant comes with a lot of conventions, we never lock you in.
> * Easyant allows you to easily extend existing modules or create and use
> your own modules.
> * Easyant makes migration from Ant very simple. Your legacy Ant scripts
> could still be leveraged with Easyant.
>
> = Rationale =
>
> On the Ivy and Ant mailing list, an often asked question is "Why Ivy is not
> shipped with Ant ?". Ant users (and some opponents) complains also about the
> bootstrapping of an Ant based build system: it is mainly about copying an
> existing one. EasyAnt is intended to response to both of these requirements:
> a prepackaged Ant + Ivy solution with standard build script ready to be
> used.
>
> Also taking inspiration from the success of Apache Maven, EasyAnt is
> adopting the "convention over configuration" principle. Then it could be
> easy to build standard project at least for all commons steps (no more need
> to reinvent the wheel between each projects). The "common" part should be
> easy enough to tune parameters without having deep ant knowledge (example
> changing the default directory of sources, force compilation to be java 1.4
> compatible, etc...).
>
> Last but not least, EasyAnt is intended to provide a plugin based
> architecture to make it easy to contribute on a specific step of the build.
> Build plugins are pieces of functionality that can be plugged into or
> removed from a project. Plugins could actually perform a piece of your
> regular build, e.g. compile java classes during build of a complete war. Or,
> do a utility action, e.g. deploy your built web application onto a packaged
> Jetty server!
>
> = Current Status =
>
> == Meritocracy ==
>
> Some of the core developers are already committers and members of the Apache
> Ant PMC, so they understand what it means to have a process based on
> meritocracy.
>
> == Community ==
>
> EasyAnt have a really small community (around 100 downloads per release). It
> is not a problem as the team is currently making restructuring changes. The
> team plans to make more promotion after those changes and strongly believe
> that community is the priority as the tool is designed to be easy to use.
>
> == Core Developers ==
>
> Xavier Hanin and Nicolas Lalev ¡ ée are members of the PMC of Apache Ant.
> Jerome Benois is an Acceleo committer, he was a committer in Eclipse MDT
> Papyrus for two years and he's an active contributor in Eclipse Modeling and
> Model Driven community. He's a committer on Bushel project now contribute to
> the Ivy code base. He leads the EasyAnt for Eclipse plugin development.
> Jason Trump is leading Beet project on sourceforge
> (http://beet.sourceforge.net/).
> Jean-Louis Boudart is Hudson committer.
>
> == Alignment ==
>
> EasyAnt is based on Apache Ant and Ivy. Being part of Apache could help for
> a closer collaboration between projects.
> The team plans to reinject as much as possible stuff into Ant or Ivy like
> they've done in the past on :
> * extensionPoint : kind of IoC for targets (Ant)
> * import/include mechanism (Ant)
> * module inheritance (Ivy)
>
> = Known risks =
>
> == Orphaned products ==
>
> Jean-Louis Boudart is the main developer of EasyAnt. Other developers got
> interested in this project and are now touching to every aspect of EasyAnt.
> Thus the risk of being orphaned is quite limited.
>
> == Inexperience with Open Source ==
>
> Many of the committers have experience working on open source projects. Two
> of them have experience as committers on other Apache projects.
>
> == Homogenous Developers ==
>
> The existing committers are spread over a number of countries and employers.
>
> == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
>
> None of 

Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL] EasyAnt incubator

2011-01-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
> [X] +1 to accept EasyAnt into the Incubator
> [] 0 don't care
> [] -1 object and reason why.

Cheers,
Christian


>
> Thanks,
> Antoine Levy-Lambert
>
> --- Proposal text from the wiki ---
>
>
> EasyAnt Proposal
>
> The following presents the proposal for creating a new EasyAnt project
> within the Apache Software Foundation.
>
> = Abstract =
>
> Easyant is a build system based on Apache Ant and Apache Ivy.
>
> = Proposal =
>
> EasyAnt goals are :
>
> * to leverage popularity and flexibility of Ant.
> * to integrate Apache Ivy, such that the build system combines a
> ready-to-use dependency manager.
> * to simplify standard build types, such as building web applications, JARs
> etc, by providing ready to use builds.
> * to provide conventions and guidelines.
> * to make plugging-in of fresh functionalities easy as writing simple Ant
> scripts as Easyant plugins.
>
> To still remain adaptable,
>
> * Though Easyant comes with a lot of conventions, we never lock you in.
> * Easyant allows you to easily extend existing modules or create and use
> your own modules.
> * Easyant makes migration from Ant very simple. Your legacy Ant scripts
> could still be leveraged with Easyant.
>
> = Rationale =
>
> On the Ivy and Ant mailing list, an often asked question is "Why Ivy is not
> shipped with Ant ?". Ant users (and some opponents) complains also about the
> bootstrapping of an Ant based build system: it is mainly about copying an
> existing one. EasyAnt is intended to response to both of these requirements:
> a prepackaged Ant + Ivy solution with standard build script ready to be
> used.
>
> Also taking inspiration from the success of Apache Maven, EasyAnt is
> adopting the "convention over configuration" principle. Then it could be
> easy to build standard project at least for all commons steps (no more need
> to reinvent the wheel between each projects). The "common" part should be
> easy enough to tune parameters without having deep ant knowledge (example
> changing the default directory of sources, force compilation to be java 1.4
> compatible, etc...).
>
> Last but not least, EasyAnt is intended to provide a plugin based
> architecture to make it easy to contribute on a specific step of the build.
> Build plugins are pieces of functionality that can be plugged into or
> removed from a project. Plugins could actually perform a piece of your
> regular build, e.g. compile java classes during build of a complete war. Or,
> do a utility action, e.g. deploy your built web application onto a packaged
> Jetty server!
>
> = Current Status =
>
> == Meritocracy ==
>
> Some of the core developers are already committers and members of the Apache
> Ant PMC, so they understand what it means to have a process based on
> meritocracy.
>
> == Community ==
>
> EasyAnt have a really small community (around 100 downloads per release). It
> is not a problem as the team is currently making restructuring changes. The
> team plans to make more promotion after those changes and strongly believe
> that community is the priority as the tool is designed to be easy to use.
>
> == Core Developers ==
>
> Xavier Hanin and Nicolas Lalev ¡ ée are members of the PMC of Apache Ant.
> Jerome Benois is an Acceleo committer, he was a committer in Eclipse MDT
> Papyrus for two years and he's an active contributor in Eclipse Modeling and
> Model Driven community. He's a committer on Bushel project now contribute to
> the Ivy code base. He leads the EasyAnt for Eclipse plugin development.
> Jason Trump is leading Beet project on sourceforge
> (http://beet.sourceforge.net/).
> Jean-Louis Boudart is Hudson committer.
>
> == Alignment ==
>
> EasyAnt is based on Apache Ant and Ivy. Being part of Apache could help for
> a closer collaboration between projects.
> The team plans to reinject as much as possible stuff into Ant or Ivy like
> they've done in the past on :
> * extensionPoint : kind of IoC for targets (Ant)
> * import/include mechanism (Ant)
> * module inheritance (Ivy)
>
> = Known risks =
>
> == Orphaned products ==
>
> Jean-Louis Boudart is the main developer of EasyAnt. Other developers got
> interested in this project and are now touching to every aspect of EasyAnt.
> Thus the risk of being orphaned is quite limited.
>
> == Inexperience with Open Source ==
>
> Many of the committers have experience working on open source projects. Two
> of them have experience as committers on other Apache projects.
>
> == Homogenous Developers ==
>
> The existing committers are spread over a number of countries and employers.
>
> == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
>
> None of the developers rely on EasyAnt for consulting work.
>
> == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
>
> As already stated above, EasyAnt is intended to have a quite good
> integration with both Apache Ant and Apache Ivy.
>
> == A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==
>
> As we're already based on many Apache project (Ant + Ivy), it seems natural
> for us that Apache Softwa

Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL] EasyAnt incubator

2011-01-24 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2011-01-24, Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote:

> I would like to present for a vote the following proposal to be sponsored by
> the Ant PMC for a new "EasyAnt" podling.

> The proposal is available on the wiki at and included below:

> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EasyAntProposal

> [X] +1 to accept EasyAnt into the Incubator
> [] 0 don't care
> [] -1 object and reason why.

+1 (binding, if that helps when counting)

Stefan

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Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL] EasyAnt incubator

2011-01-24 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 (binding)

LieGrue,
strub

--- On Mon, 1/24/11, Antoine Levy-Lambert  wrote:

> From: Antoine Levy-Lambert 
> Subject: [VOTE][PROPOSAL] EasyAnt incubator
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Date: Monday, January 24, 2011, 5:14 PM
> I would like to present for a vote
> the following proposal to be sponsored by
> the Ant PMC for a new "EasyAnt" podling.
> 
> The proposal is available on the wiki at and included
> below:
> 
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EasyAntProposal
> 
> [] +1 to accept EasyAnt into the Incubator
> [] 0 don't care
> [] -1 object and reason why.
> 
> Thanks,
> Antoine Levy-Lambert
> 
> --- Proposal text from the wiki ---
> 
> 
> EasyAnt Proposal
> 
> The following presents the proposal for creating a new
> EasyAnt project within the Apache Software Foundation.
> 
> = Abstract =
> 
> Easyant is a build system based on Apache Ant and Apache
> Ivy.
> 
> = Proposal =
> 
> EasyAnt goals are :
> 
> * to leverage popularity and flexibility of Ant.
> * to integrate Apache Ivy, such that the build system
> combines a ready-to-use dependency manager.
> * to simplify standard build types, such as building web
> applications, JARs etc, by providing ready to use builds.
> * to provide conventions and guidelines.
> * to make plugging-in of fresh functionalities easy as
> writing simple Ant scripts as Easyant plugins.
> 
> To still remain adaptable,
> 
> * Though Easyant comes with a lot of conventions, we never
> lock you in.
> * Easyant allows you to easily extend existing modules or
> create and use your own modules.
> * Easyant makes migration from Ant very simple. Your legacy
> Ant scripts could still be leveraged with Easyant.
> 
> = Rationale =
> 
> On the Ivy and Ant mailing list, an often asked question is
> "Why Ivy is not shipped with Ant ?". Ant users (and some
> opponents) complains also about the bootstrapping of an Ant
> based build system: it is mainly about copying an existing
> one. EasyAnt is intended to response to both of these
> requirements: a prepackaged Ant + Ivy solution with standard
> build script ready to be used.
> 
> Also taking inspiration from the success of Apache Maven,
> EasyAnt is adopting the "convention over configuration"
> principle. Then it could be easy to build standard project
> at least for all commons steps (no more need to reinvent the
> wheel between each projects). The "common" part should be
> easy enough to tune parameters without having deep ant
> knowledge (example changing the default directory of
> sources, force compilation to be java 1.4 compatible,
> etc...).
> 
> Last but not least, EasyAnt is intended to provide a plugin
> based architecture to make it easy to contribute on a
> specific step of the build. Build plugins are pieces of
> functionality that can be plugged into or removed from a
> project. Plugins could actually perform a piece of your
> regular build, e.g. compile java classes during build of a
> complete war. Or, do a utility action, e.g. deploy your
> built web application onto a packaged Jetty server!
> 
> = Current Status =
> 
> == Meritocracy ==
> 
> Some of the core developers are already committers and
> members of the Apache Ant PMC, so they understand what it
> means to have a process based on meritocracy.
> 
> == Community ==
> 
> EasyAnt have a really small community (around 100 downloads
> per release). It is not a problem as the team is currently
> making restructuring changes. The team plans to make more
> promotion after those changes and strongly believe that
> community is the priority as the tool is designed to be easy
> to use.
> 
> == Core Developers ==
> 
> Xavier Hanin and Nicolas Lalev�¡�ée are members of
> the PMC of Apache Ant.
> Jerome Benois is an Acceleo committer, he was a committer
> in Eclipse MDT Papyrus for two years and he's an active
> contributor in Eclipse Modeling and Model Driven community.
> He's a committer on Bushel project now contribute to the Ivy
> code base. He leads the EasyAnt for Eclipse plugin
> development.
> Jason Trump is leading Beet project on sourceforge 
> (http://beet.sourceforge.net/).
> Jean-Louis Boudart is Hudson committer.
> 
> == Alignment ==
> 
> EasyAnt is based on Apache Ant and Ivy. Being part of
> Apache could help for a closer collaboration between
> projects.
> The team plans to reinject as much as possible stuff into
> Ant or Ivy like they've done in the past on :
> * extensionPoint : kind of IoC for targets (Ant)
> * import/include mechanism (Ant)
> * module inheritance (Ivy)
> 
> = Known risks =
> 
> == Orphaned products ==
> 
> Jean-Louis Boudart is the main developer of EasyAnt. Other
> developers got interested in this project and are now
> touching to every aspect of EasyAnt. Thus the risk of being
> orphaned is quite limited.
> 
> == Inexperience with Open Source ==
> 
> Many of the committers have experience working on open
> source projects. Two of them have experience as committers
> on other Apache projects.
> 
> == Homogenous Developers ==
>

Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL] EasyAnt incubator

2011-01-24 Thread Guillaume Nodet
+1

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 18:14, Antoine Levy-Lambert  wrote:
> I would like to present for a vote the following proposal to be sponsored by
> the Ant PMC for a new "EasyAnt" podling.
>
> The proposal is available on the wiki at and included below:
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EasyAntProposal
>
> [] +1 to accept EasyAnt into the Incubator
> [] 0 don't care
> [] -1 object and reason why.
>
> Thanks,
> Antoine Levy-Lambert
>
> --- Proposal text from the wiki ---
>
>
> EasyAnt Proposal
>
> The following presents the proposal for creating a new EasyAnt project
> within the Apache Software Foundation.
>
> = Abstract =
>
> Easyant is a build system based on Apache Ant and Apache Ivy.
>
> = Proposal =
>
> EasyAnt goals are :
>
> * to leverage popularity and flexibility of Ant.
> * to integrate Apache Ivy, such that the build system combines a
> ready-to-use dependency manager.
> * to simplify standard build types, such as building web applications, JARs
> etc, by providing ready to use builds.
> * to provide conventions and guidelines.
> * to make plugging-in of fresh functionalities easy as writing simple Ant
> scripts as Easyant plugins.
>
> To still remain adaptable,
>
> * Though Easyant comes with a lot of conventions, we never lock you in.
> * Easyant allows you to easily extend existing modules or create and use
> your own modules.
> * Easyant makes migration from Ant very simple. Your legacy Ant scripts
> could still be leveraged with Easyant.
>
> = Rationale =
>
> On the Ivy and Ant mailing list, an often asked question is "Why Ivy is not
> shipped with Ant ?". Ant users (and some opponents) complains also about the
> bootstrapping of an Ant based build system: it is mainly about copying an
> existing one. EasyAnt is intended to response to both of these requirements:
> a prepackaged Ant + Ivy solution with standard build script ready to be
> used.
>
> Also taking inspiration from the success of Apache Maven, EasyAnt is
> adopting the "convention over configuration" principle. Then it could be
> easy to build standard project at least for all commons steps (no more need
> to reinvent the wheel between each projects). The "common" part should be
> easy enough to tune parameters without having deep ant knowledge (example
> changing the default directory of sources, force compilation to be java 1.4
> compatible, etc...).
>
> Last but not least, EasyAnt is intended to provide a plugin based
> architecture to make it easy to contribute on a specific step of the build.
> Build plugins are pieces of functionality that can be plugged into or
> removed from a project. Plugins could actually perform a piece of your
> regular build, e.g. compile java classes during build of a complete war. Or,
> do a utility action, e.g. deploy your built web application onto a packaged
> Jetty server!
>
> = Current Status =
>
> == Meritocracy ==
>
> Some of the core developers are already committers and members of the Apache
> Ant PMC, so they understand what it means to have a process based on
> meritocracy.
>
> == Community ==
>
> EasyAnt have a really small community (around 100 downloads per release). It
> is not a problem as the team is currently making restructuring changes. The
> team plans to make more promotion after those changes and strongly believe
> that community is the priority as the tool is designed to be easy to use.
>
> == Core Developers ==
>
> Xavier Hanin and Nicolas Lalev ¡ ée are members of the PMC of Apache Ant.
> Jerome Benois is an Acceleo committer, he was a committer in Eclipse MDT
> Papyrus for two years and he's an active contributor in Eclipse Modeling and
> Model Driven community. He's a committer on Bushel project now contribute to
> the Ivy code base. He leads the EasyAnt for Eclipse plugin development.
> Jason Trump is leading Beet project on sourceforge
> (http://beet.sourceforge.net/).
> Jean-Louis Boudart is Hudson committer.
>
> == Alignment ==
>
> EasyAnt is based on Apache Ant and Ivy. Being part of Apache could help for
> a closer collaboration between projects.
> The team plans to reinject as much as possible stuff into Ant or Ivy like
> they've done in the past on :
> * extensionPoint : kind of IoC for targets (Ant)
> * import/include mechanism (Ant)
> * module inheritance (Ivy)
>
> = Known risks =
>
> == Orphaned products ==
>
> Jean-Louis Boudart is the main developer of EasyAnt. Other developers got
> interested in this project and are now touching to every aspect of EasyAnt.
> Thus the risk of being orphaned is quite limited.
>
> == Inexperience with Open Source ==
>
> Many of the committers have experience working on open source projects. Two
> of them have experience as committers on other Apache projects.
>
> == Homogenous Developers ==
>
> The existing committers are spread over a number of countries and employers.
>
> == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
>
> None of the developers rely on EasyAnt for consulting work.
>
> == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==

Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL] EasyAnt incubator

2011-01-24 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
+1 from me (binding).

Cheers,
Chris

On Jan 24, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote:

> I would like to present for a vote the following proposal to be sponsored by
> the Ant PMC for a new "EasyAnt" podling.
> 
> The proposal is available on the wiki at and included below:
> 
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EasyAntProposal
> 
> [] +1 to accept EasyAnt into the Incubator
> [] 0 don't care
> [] -1 object and reason why.
> 
> Thanks,
> Antoine Levy-Lambert
> 
> --- Proposal text from the wiki ---
> 
> 
> EasyAnt Proposal
> 
> The following presents the proposal for creating a new EasyAnt project 
> within the Apache Software Foundation.
> 
> = Abstract =
> 
> Easyant is a build system based on Apache Ant and Apache Ivy.
> 
> = Proposal =
> 
> EasyAnt goals are :
> 
> * to leverage popularity and flexibility of Ant.
> * to integrate Apache Ivy, such that the build system combines a 
> ready-to-use dependency manager.
> * to simplify standard build types, such as building web applications, 
> JARs etc, by providing ready to use builds.
> * to provide conventions and guidelines.
> * to make plugging-in of fresh functionalities easy as writing simple 
> Ant scripts as Easyant plugins.
> 
> To still remain adaptable,
> 
> * Though Easyant comes with a lot of conventions, we never lock you in.
> * Easyant allows you to easily extend existing modules or create and use 
> your own modules.
> * Easyant makes migration from Ant very simple. Your legacy Ant scripts 
> could still be leveraged with Easyant.
> 
> = Rationale =
> 
> On the Ivy and Ant mailing list, an often asked question is "Why Ivy is 
> not shipped with Ant ?". Ant users (and some opponents) complains also 
> about the bootstrapping of an Ant based build system: it is mainly about 
> copying an existing one. EasyAnt is intended to response to both of 
> these requirements: a prepackaged Ant + Ivy solution with standard build 
> script ready to be used.
> 
> Also taking inspiration from the success of Apache Maven, EasyAnt is 
> adopting the "convention over configuration" principle. Then it could be 
> easy to build standard project at least for all commons steps (no more 
> need to reinvent the wheel between each projects). The "common" part 
> should be easy enough to tune parameters without having deep ant 
> knowledge (example changing the default directory of sources, force 
> compilation to be java 1.4 compatible, etc...).
> 
> Last but not least, EasyAnt is intended to provide a plugin based 
> architecture to make it easy to contribute on a specific step of the 
> build. Build plugins are pieces of functionality that can be plugged 
> into or removed from a project. Plugins could actually perform a piece 
> of your regular build, e.g. compile java classes during build of a 
> complete war. Or, do a utility action, e.g. deploy your built web 
> application onto a packaged Jetty server!
> 
> = Current Status =
> 
> == Meritocracy ==
> 
> Some of the core developers are already committers and members of the 
> Apache Ant PMC, so they understand what it means to have a process based 
> on meritocracy.
> 
> == Community ==
> 
> EasyAnt have a really small community (around 100 downloads per 
> release). It is not a problem as the team is currently making 
> restructuring changes. The team plans to make more promotion after those 
> changes and strongly believe that community is the priority as the tool 
> is designed to be easy to use.
> 
> == Core Developers ==
> 
> Xavier Hanin and Nicolas Lalev∂¡™ée are members of the PMC of Apache Ant.
> Jerome Benois is an Acceleo committer, he was a committer in Eclipse MDT 
> Papyrus for two years and he's an active contributor in Eclipse Modeling 
> and Model Driven community. He's a committer on Bushel project now 
> contribute to the Ivy code base. He leads the EasyAnt for Eclipse plugin 
> development.
> Jason Trump is leading Beet project on sourceforge 
> (http://beet.sourceforge.net/).
> Jean-Louis Boudart is Hudson committer.
> 
> == Alignment ==
> 
> EasyAnt is based on Apache Ant and Ivy. Being part of Apache could help 
> for a closer collaboration between projects.
> The team plans to reinject as much as possible stuff into Ant or Ivy 
> like they've done in the past on :
> * extensionPoint : kind of IoC for targets (Ant)
> * import/include mechanism (Ant)
> * module inheritance (Ivy)
> 
> = Known risks =
> 
> == Orphaned products ==
> 
> Jean-Louis Boudart is the main developer of EasyAnt. Other developers 
> got interested in this project and are now touching to every aspect of 
> EasyAnt. Thus the risk of being orphaned is quite limited.
> 
> == Inexperience with Open Source ==
> 
> Many of the committers have experience working on open source projects. 
> Two of them have experience as committers on other Apache projects.
> 
> == Homogenous Developers ==
> 
> The existing committers are spread over a number of countries and 
> employers.
> 
> == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
>