Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-18 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:

 So unless new issues come up once the vote starts (which would be bad
 - that's why we have a DISCUSS phase) I would very much like to close
 the vote after the standard 72 hours.

+1

I'm persuaded that the week-long DISCUSS was a good call.  A 72-hour
VOTE should suffice after that.

Marvin Humphrey

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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Matt Franklin
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:09 PM Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org
wrote:

 Hi,

 On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org
 wrote:
  ...having seen some of the issues that came from prior proposals rushing
  a vote, I'd like to see [VOTE] thread to exist for at least a week

 I don't think letting the vote drag on purpose is useful - after
 almost a week of discussions it seems like all the (minor) issues that
 have not come to closure need to be discussed once the podling is
 established. A longer vote would be counterproductive w.r.t these
 issues.


+1.  That is the purpose of the discussion phase.  We should all have
enough context to vote one way or another.



 So unless new issues come up once the vote starts (which would be bad
 - that's why we have a DISCUSS phase) I would very much like to close
 the vote after the standard 72 hours.

 -Bertrand

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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny elecha...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...We already have demonstrated our ability to raises various points on
 various subjects, time to demonstrate The ASF in action !..

+1 - as I said elsethread it's in theory Roman's job to start the
vote, as the Groovy champion.

But I guess if any of the mentors feel impatient we can do that as
well...going once... ;-)

-Bertrand

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Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Emmanuel Lécharny
Hi guys,


we can discuss for 3 more months, but at some point, isn't it time to
start a vote ?

We already have demonstrated our ability to raises various points on
various subjects, time to demonstrate The ASF in action !


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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Cédric Champeau

On 17/03/2015 15:34, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny elecha...@gmail.com wrote:

...We already have demonstrated our ability to raises various points on
various subjects, time to demonstrate The ASF in action !..

+1 - as I said elsethread it's in theory Roman's job to start the
vote, as the Groovy champion.

But I guess if any of the mentors feel impatient we can do that as
well...going once... ;-)

-Bertrand

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I wouldn't mind starting a vote early, given the time constraints that 
we have :)


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Cédric Champeau
Groovy language developer
http://twitter.com/CedricChampeau
http://melix.github.io/blog


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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Cédric Champeau
cedric.champ...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...I wouldn't mind starting a vote early, given the time constraints that we
 have :)...

Ok, I'll start the vote Wednesday morning CET unless we hear from
Roman until then.

-Bertrand

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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny elecha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys,


 we can discuss for 3 more months, but at some point, isn't it time to
 start a vote ?

Sure. But at least a week for something like Groovy should be expected.
Besides, I still owe IPMC an answer about status of the Groovy trademark.
I'm trying to research this on my end with Pivotal team.

Thanks,
Roman.

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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi!

having seen some of the issues that came from prior proposals rushing
a vote, I'd like to see [VOTE] thread to exist for at least a week.

I am going to start a vote tomorrow once a full week of [DISCUSS]
elapses.

Thanks,
Roman.

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Cédric Champeau
 cedric.champ...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...I wouldn't mind starting a vote early, given the time constraints that we
 have :)...

 Ok, I'll start the vote Wednesday morning CET unless we hear from
 Roman until then.

 -Bertrand

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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote:
 ...I still owe IPMC an answer about status of the Groovy trademark.
 I'm trying to research this on my end with Pivotal team...

Sure, it's good to find out but I don't think that's a blocker for
entering incubation.

-Bertrand

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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi,

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote:
 ...having seen some of the issues that came from prior proposals rushing
 a vote, I'd like to see [VOTE] thread to exist for at least a week

I don't think letting the vote drag on purpose is useful - after
almost a week of discussions it seems like all the (minor) issues that
have not come to closure need to be discussed once the podling is
established. A longer vote would be counterproductive w.r.t these
issues.

So unless new issues come up once the vote starts (which would be bad
- that's why we have a DISCUSS phase) I would very much like to close
the vote after the standard 72 hours.

-Bertrand

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