Re: Welcome Wagon
I would be super interested in these topics as we're also considering joining the Apache Incubator with MorphL Community Edition: https://github.com/Morphl-AI/MorphL-Community-Edition Big +1! On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 10:58 AM Mick Semb Wever wrote: > > > An Incubator Welcome Wagon could be a Guide of Guides and include > > introductory information about: > > > > (0) Onboarding > > (1) Community Development > > (2) Infrastructure and Builds > > (3) Legal Policy > > (4) Release Policy > > (5) Press > > (6) Foundation Structure > > > +1 from me. > > I think also the mentors could benefit. I suspect many mentors only do a > few podlings? And that means many mentors are first-timers. At least I felt > kinda swamped, not so much from a lack of documentation, but a lack of > presentation and organisation of it. Checklists for the different tasks > would also be very welcome. > > regards, > Mick > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: Welcome Wagon
> An Incubator Welcome Wagon could be a Guide of Guides and include > introductory information about: > > (0) Onboarding > (1) Community Development > (2) Infrastructure and Builds > (3) Legal Policy > (4) Release Policy > (5) Press > (6) Foundation Structure +1 from me. I think also the mentors could benefit. I suspect many mentors only do a few podlings? And that means many mentors are first-timers. At least I felt kinda swamped, not so much from a lack of documentation, but a lack of presentation and organisation of it. Checklists for the different tasks would also be very welcome. regards, Mick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Welcome Wagon
On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:48 AM Dave Fisher wrote: > > Hi - > > There has been mentions about lack of documentation, not being able to find > documentation, not being responsible for a policy, and not including the > rationale for a policy. > > This morning I remembered something that happened some 49 years ago when I > was a child and we moved to the suburbs of Chicago. A nice lady came over to > the house from a group that called themselves the “Welcome Wagon”. She > provided goodies and all kinds of information about both the local > subdivision and the village. > > I wonder if this is something that the Incubator could help build and > disseminate? > > An Incubator Welcome Wagon could be a Guide of Guides and include > introductory information about: > > (0) Onboarding > (1) Community Development > (2) Infrastructure and Builds > (3) Legal Policy > (4) Release Policy > (5) Press > (6) Foundation Structure > > This information would come from the definitive committee and the mentors > and podlings could provide feedback to the appropriate committees. > > I think something like this would help the Incubator and Mentors be more > facilitator and less police. +1 Back when I was IPMC Chair, I used to send out "Welcome to the Incubator, $PODLING Community" messages: https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/32b8e0f0949996db4f3e9fd7c1b61e35349325faabb985e4fbcead47@1377816395@%3Cdev.sentry.apache.org%3E I sent them out as soon as the dev@podling list creation notification would come through, and they would be cross-posted to general@incubator. These messages had less content than is suggested above; I would argue that it's more important to set the tone than it is to provide complete information. Part of the motivation for cross-posting was to inform people subscribed to general@incubator that might be interested in the podling that the podling dev list was now open. People seemed to like that. But it was mostly about getting started on a positive note (not just for the sake of the newcomers but also for our own). Just like your wonderful anecdote above about the Chicago Welcome Wagon! Any Incubator community member could take on the responsibility for sending such mails (from a template), and sign them either "on behalf of the Incubator community" or "on behalf of the Incubator PMC" (depending on whether they are on the IPMC or not). Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Welcome Wagon
Hi Dave, IMO, the Incubator is the "welcome wagon". Unfortunately, it often greets new neighbors with a huge list of policies which is not welcoming. That makes the incubator more iike a bad Homeowner's Association from a movie. Or maybe a Boot Camp where only the tough survive and everyone else washes out. When I think of the word Incubator, I think of baby incubators in hospitals where staff goes out of their way to help each baby survive and then thrive, not one where the goal is selection of a few. -Alex On 2/25/19, 11:48 AM, "Dave Fisher" wrote: Hi - There has been mentions about lack of documentation, not being able to find documentation, not being responsible for a policy, and not including the rationale for a policy. This morning I remembered something that happened some 49 years ago when I was a child and we moved to the suburbs of Chicago. A nice lady came over to the house from a group that called themselves the “Welcome Wagon”. She provided goodies and all kinds of information about both the local subdivision and the village. I wonder if this is something that the Incubator could help build and disseminate? An Incubator Welcome Wagon could be a Guide of Guides and include introductory information about: (0) Onboarding (1) Community Development (2) Infrastructure and Builds (3) Legal Policy (4) Release Policy (5) Press (6) Foundation Structure This information would come from the definitive committee and the mentors and podlings could provide feedback to the appropriate committees. I think something like this would help the Incubator and Mentors be more facilitator and less police. Regards, Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Welcome Wagon
Hi - There has been mentions about lack of documentation, not being able to find documentation, not being responsible for a policy, and not including the rationale for a policy. This morning I remembered something that happened some 49 years ago when I was a child and we moved to the suburbs of Chicago. A nice lady came over to the house from a group that called themselves the “Welcome Wagon”. She provided goodies and all kinds of information about both the local subdivision and the village. I wonder if this is something that the Incubator could help build and disseminate? An Incubator Welcome Wagon could be a Guide of Guides and include introductory information about: (0) Onboarding (1) Community Development (2) Infrastructure and Builds (3) Legal Policy (4) Release Policy (5) Press (6) Foundation Structure This information would come from the definitive committee and the mentors and podlings could provide feedback to the appropriate committees. I think something like this would help the Incubator and Mentors be more facilitator and less police. Regards, Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org