[VOTE] Accepting Kato into the Incubator

2008-11-01 Thread Bobrovsky, Konstantin S
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Thanks,

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Re: accommodate non-native-English-writing developers

2008-11-01 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:00 AM, David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Luciano Resende wrote:

snip

 In Tuscany, our experience with having a non-English mailing list has
 been very interesting, the forum has been created just a month or two
 ago and the number of subscribers and the activity on it has been
 growing very rapidly, this makes me think that there is indeed a
 language barrier that would prevent some individuals to participate in
 the english discussion lists, although these members are very
 technically skilled and willing to consume and become a contributor of
 your project.

 In order to allow others to be aware of what's going on in this forum,
 we have Raymond, our Chinese speaking community member, watching the
 forum, and communicating issues back to our official English list. We
 also found it very useful to use Google infrastructure to perform
 automatic-translation of the forum [1], this allows anyone to lurk
 around and have a feeling of what's being discussed.

 [1] 
 http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http:%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Ftuscany-sca-chinesehl=enie=UTF8sl=zh-CNtl=en

 I wonder if it would be appropriate to modify mod_mbox to
 add a footer option to translate. That way any of our
 mail lists could be immediately translated via
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/

 Also all english-speaking developers could translate any
 posting and reply in english.

big +1

this could be taken a lot further: translation links could be added to
the mail archives . i like the idea of routinely adding translation
links to all our web content.

IMHO the time is right for apache to start reconsidering the policy
towards translations. ATM canonical content is created in english and
unofficial translations are hosted off shore. IIRC the reasons were
about supervision (in particular, ensuring that illegal or abusive
content wasn't hosted) given the small number of multi-lingual
members.

AIUI httpd is the exception. as part of it's documentation effort, it
hosts onshore translations. i think that apache can learn from the way
this works and start something similar on an apache-wide basis.

i think that the improved quality of automatic translations means that
this decision should be reviewed and (quite possibly) reversed. commit
emails for translations could be automatically linked to an automated
translation of the new document. this may not be good enough for
working out whether the prose is a good translation but should be good
enough to allow basic supervision.

- robert

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Buildr Graduation Feedback

2008-11-01 Thread Alex Boisvert
Dear incubator overseers,

The Buildr project has been working on a draft board resolution to graduate
from the incubator.  We've recently held a
votehttp://n2.nabble.com/-VOTE--Graduation-Board-Resolution-td1347057.htmlto
gauge the support of the community and feedback was all positive.  The
project meets all incubator requirements and guidelines and has been in the
incubator for exactly one year today. There have been several releases, the
community is growing steadily, no pending IP issues and development is
pretty active.

Our incubation status page has been updated recently:
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/buildr.html

At this time, I'd like to solicit feedback from the IPMC regarding our
proposed board resolution:
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/BUILDR/Board+Resolution

What do you think?

alex


Re: Donations Repo

2008-11-01 Thread Greg Reddin
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 5:26 PM, David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/donations/
 .^

 Is there some documentation that led you astray
 or just a slip?

I didn't type the right URL or even the right path in my email, sorry.
Using the path you specified above I was unable to commit a new
directory containing sigs and a .zip file.

Thanks,
Greg

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PMC chairs access to Donations Repo

2008-11-01 Thread David Crossley
Greg Reddin wrote:
 David Crossley wrote:
 
  https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/donations/
  .^
 
  Is there some documentation that led you astray
  or just a slip?
 
 I didn't type the right URL or even the right path in my email, sorry.
 Using the path you specified above I was unable to commit a new
 directory containing sigs and a .zip file.

Okay, now we are sure about the URL.

Yes i see that people in your situation do not
have svn authorisation. It is either members or
incubator-pmc - default for the incubator section.

I presume that the pmc-chairs group should have
access, but it does not currently.

To Incubator PMC, should we add a special handler
for the incubator/donations/ directory?

-David

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