Re: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002
From: Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would actually prefer no peer review (or at least no binding peer review). If people want to have a say what goes into it then they should get off their butts and write something for it ;) +1 Great job, hope you keep hanging on ;-) -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains) - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002
+1 on no biding peer review But the sequence of events Pier suggested seems fine (1) The volunteer list editors post submissions to the general list and copy their own DEV list. [NEWS] July 2002 - Struts copy/ (2) The volunteer newsletter editor collects the submissions together and sends it out on announcements like a digest. If there were comments, it would be up to the newsletter editor that month to decide whether to commit them to the newsletter or not; perhaps consulting with the committers for the product first. -Ted. Peter Donald wrote: I would actually prefer no peer review (or at least no binding peer review). If people want to have a say what goes into it then they should get off their butts and write something for it ;) I am sure that the writers will be at responsible enough (and if not we can yank their privlidges to post it to announcement list) At 04:19 PM 6/5/2002 +0100, you wrote: Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 0 Date: May 2002 Great job... I'd like to propose the following: peer review on this mailing list, vote request, and then send it off on announcements... This can be done every month if Rob is willing to keep up with the pace of my flamewars. Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY US -- Developing Java Web Applications with Struts -- Tel: +1 585 737-3463 -- Web: http://husted.com/about/services -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002
+1 Paulo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:42 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002 On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Peter Donald wrote: I would actually prefer no peer review (or at least no binding peer review). If people want to have a say what goes into it then they should get off their butts and write something for it ;) +1 Costin I am sure that the writers will be at responsible enough (and if not we can yank their privlidges to post it to announcement list) At 04:19 PM 6/5/2002 +0100, you wrote: Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 0 Date: May 2002 Great job... I'd like to propose the following: peer review on this mailing list, vote request, and then send it off on announcements... This can be done every month if Rob is willing to keep up with the pace of my flamewars. Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002
GREAT job Rob. I like the level of detail very much. For me it should be no less detailed: if it is to save me the hassle of following a list, the newsletter MUST have some detail. I am not expecting a management digest - I am a developer and not a manager. I am talking in the first person but I am guessing that we do not have many of those managers that like to avoid the technical details around. The mail archive URLs are also very nice. Regards, Paulo Gaspar -Original Message- From: Rob Oxspring [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:41 AM To: 'Jakarta General List' Subject: RE: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002 Thanks Erik, I think its gonna take a few of us keeping it high priority to get the ball rolling properly - it took me long enough to get around to this one (though whats 6 months between software engineers) - i.e. although a calendar alarm has been set for next month, prods and reminders are definitely appreciated :) You are probably right re the level of detail - its partially just my style showing through but also because I thought it'd look a bit empty with just general, ant and commons on there. I think a lot of this sort of thing will vary with the style of the individual column authors and the level of activity within each project, IMHO this variation should make it a more interesting read and should be encouraged - at least for the first few months while we don't know what's best. Rob -Original Message- From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 5 June 2002 23:45 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002 Rob, Very nice. I've been keeping this idea high on my to-do list and I'm glad to see you finally get to it. This is more detailed than future ones probably should be, and that would likely be the case when other projects get incorporated anyway. Great job, and you can count on me assisting you with this in any way possible in the future. Erik - Original Message - From: Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:57 AM Subject: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002 Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 0 Date: May 2002 A Jakarta newsletter has been mentioned a few times on the general list and so I figured it was high time that one was produced. The discussions previously seemed to settle on a monthly affair with a a regular change of editorship. The aim is that for the future, different people will take over different sections for a limited period so that nobody gets bogged down with the chore unless they want to - some lists may have a series of volunteers step up, other projects may choose to add newsletter editing as a regular responsibility for each of their active committers. Hopefully this will lead to a dynamic monthly newsletter that can be sent out on the announcement list (or a new newsletter one) and try to keep people informed of what all the projects are up to without having to monitor all the projects This issue is entirely edited my myself rather than a set of developers and as a direct result is limited to the dev lists I monitor properly. With luck others will help out future issues providing a varied style and more complete content. Rob Oxspring General === This month saw the first ever veto of a new committer in the Tomcat subproject. [1] The resulting threads from this discussed how much a person should have to do before being given committer rights [2] and what they should have had to do. This in turn lead to a proposed rethink of the current rights and roles at Jakarta - can non-coders be committers? should people be given voting rights without CVS access? - should they be given CVS access without the hassle of voting rights? The answers seemed to be probably, possibly and probably not respectively [3] On a similar note, there was a brief look at how best to welcome and nurture volunteers to keep Jakarta growing and progressing [4] An announcement of a new in house mail archive using EyeBrowse [5] lead to a few threads regarding the infrastructure available at Jakarta. The main focus was on whether to switch from Bugzilla to Scarab [6,7] although Subversion was also mentioned with anticipation. There was also discussion of the best way to measure project activity and how useful such a metric would be [8]. Related to the infrastructure and to project activity, Maven was advocated by Jon Scott Stevens as a build system we should all be using. The ensuing flame war included a lot of Centipede vs Maven, XSL vs Velocity, and other Ego clashes. The result seems to
Re: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002
Great stuff! +1 How would you like us to submit articles/notes to you? On 6/5/02 9:57 AM, Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 0 Date: May 2002 [SNIP] -- Geir Magnusson Jr. Research Development, Adeptra Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-203-247-1713 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PATCH] Added new turbine mailing lists to site
On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 17:59, robert burrell donkin wrote: the existing list of mailing lists doesn't include some of the newer turbine lists. this patch for jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/mail2.xml adds them. Would you like access to the jakarta-site2 module? - robert Index: xdocs/site/mail2.xml === RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/mail2.xml,v retrieving revision 1.44 diff -u -r1.44 mail2.xml --- xdocs/site/mail2.xml 9 May 2002 22:11:20 - 1.44 +++ xdocs/site/mail2.xml 6 Jun 2002 21:54:27 - @@ -745,6 +745,69 @@ p This list is where discussion of the Turbine TDK development occurs. /p +p +bThe Torque User List/bbr/ +bMedium Traffic/b +a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];Subscribe/a +a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];Unsubscribe/a +a href=http://www.mail-archive.com/turbine-torque-user@jakarta.apache.org/;Archive/a +/p +p +List for Torque users to meet, discuss and solve problems. +Developers will also be lurking around. +/p +p +bThe Torque Developer List/bbr/ +bMedium Traffic/b +a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];Subscribe/a +a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];Unsubscribe/a +a href=http://www.mail-archive.com/turbine-torque-dev@jakarta.apache.org/;Archive/a +/p +p +This list is where discussion of Torque development occurs. +/p +p +bThe Maven User List/bbr/ +bMedium Traffic/b +a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];Subscribe/a +a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];Unsubscribe/a +a href=http://www.mail-archive.com/turbine-maven-user@jakarta.apache.org/;Archive/a +/p +p +List for Maven users to meet, discuss and solve problems. +Developers will also be lurking around. +/p +p +bThe Maven Developer List/bbr/ +bMedium Traffic/b +a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];Subscribe/a +a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];Unsubscribe/a +a href=http://www.mail-archive.com/turbine-maven-dev@jakarta.apache.org/;Archive/a +/p +p +This list is where discussion of Maven development occurs. +/p +p +bThe JCS User List/bbr/ +bMedium Traffic/b +a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];Subscribe/a +a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];Unsubscribe/a +a href=http://www.mail-archive.com/turbine-jcs-user@jakarta.apache.org/;Archive/a +/p +p +List for JCS users to meet, discuss and solve problems. +Developers will also be lurking around. +/p +p +bThe JCS Developer List/bbr/ +bMedium Traffic/b +a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];Subscribe/a +a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];Unsubscribe/a +a href=http://www.mail-archive.com/turbine-jcs-dev@jakarta.apache.org/;Archive/a +/p +p +This list is where discussion of JCS development occurs. +/p /section section name=Velocity -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- jvz. Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tambora.zenplex.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
