I thought this might be interesting to some folks... They're porting
PHP to Java...
-Andy
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Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 19:13:23 -0500
From: marc fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yeah that was my first impulse, to have a PHP interpreter in JBoss so
that we could leverage all the PHP thingies out there.
clearly the problem with PHP is that the guys who do the front end
modules and app DONT KNOW THE FIRST THING ABOUT COMPONENTS and the
benefits it brings in caching (see whole argument on EJB in BLUE).
Putting EJB behind the whole mess would be great. PHP can talk java but
it is out of process so that you go back to serialization and LOSE the
benefit of caching. Period. So clearly having the PHP code interpreted
in java would be great as you access the db data in cache.
The problem is that the libraries used need to be ported too and that
becomes a pain. I am really serious with the porting as Julien will be
payed for this.
marcf
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Behalf Of Holger Baxmann
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] PHP
anybody thought about integrating php (and this way the
cms-whatever-this-is
thingy) into the the containers? maybe by calling the zend
engine natively?
layer rules ...
just an idea ..
bax
Von: Bill Burke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Datum: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:34:10 -0500
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Betreff: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP
IWE. Go Go Julien Viet!
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Matt Munz
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 3:16 PM
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Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP
Marc group,
Thanks for the details.
We tried to rewrite
the forums (which we did) and it took us for ever due to the
publishing framework getting in the way.
My good friend Google just explained CMS publishing to
me, and I
think I understand the issue. It is not PHP vs. J2EE, but
Post-Nuke
vs. a J2EE-based CMS that apparently DNE.
Not the best situation...
- Matt
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From: marc fleury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:39 PM
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Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP
Bill,
Don't worry, I'm not going to blast you for not eating
your own dog
food.
you should.
JSP/Servlets/J2EE is better, but PostNuke is a good Content
Management
System.
This statement, in and of itself, is a rationale for using J2EE
instead of PHP ;) Could you divulge the precise
reason(s) for choosing Post-Nuke? (I can think of many
factors that
often outweigh technical superiority -- time, money,
expedience, IP
issues... was it one of these?)
the real reason is that the APPLICATION IS THERE. We tried to
rewrite the forums (which we did) and it took us for ever
due to the
publishing framework getting in the way. The problem we
have is that
PostNuke is a bunch of PHP files with direct DB access in
it and we
are having scalability nightmares. Our machine used to be 15%
utilization max (slashdot was 50%) due TO THE CACHES IN
JBOSS. And
without it, we have 100 people on the website and the machine is
pegged.
So the application is there so we use it. We need it NOW. Julien
viet, who was writing the forums, is now on JBoss payroll
and will be
working on JNUKE. A straight port of PHP functionality to
JBoss. PHP
is ugly and functional, my kind of code but at the end of
the day it
doesn't scale well at all due to all the crap they do.
EJB are good
things :)
Peace,
marcf
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