Sun copies Jakarta?

2003-06-10 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
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Re: Sun copies Jakarta?

2003-06-10 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata

On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:48:57 +0200
Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://java.net/

But failed in JavaScript ;-)

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Re: Sun copies Jakarta?

2003-06-10 Thread Steven Noels
On 10/06/2003 9:48 Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

or MS (http://www.gotdotnet.com/community/workspaces/directory.aspx)? Or 
Sourceforge? Savannah?

Diversity is what keeps Darwin's sledgehammer away, IMHO.

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Re: Sun copies Jakarta?

2003-06-10 Thread Santiago Gala
Steven Noels escribió:
On 10/06/2003 9:48 Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

or MS (http://www.gotdotnet.com/community/workspaces/directory.aspx)? Or 
Sourceforge? Savannah?

Diversity is what keeps Darwin's sledgehammer away, IMHO.

Darwin will take care of most such initiatives. But it looks like new 
marketing trends are being set up.

Now, how does this affect our ecosystem?


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Re: Sun copies Jakarta?

2003-06-10 Thread Steven Noels
On 10/06/2003 13:38 Santiago Gala wrote:

Now, how does this affect our ecosystem?
*shrug*

I for one have just filed our own open source xReporter project to be 
linked from java.net. I expect the requisite of having a _diverse_ 
community of developers doesn't exist over there, so it might be a nice, 
visible place to grow a community until it is ready for eventual 
contribution to the ASF.

I'm pretty sure people will still think of apache.org as being the 
ultimate destination for a good OSS project. If java.net helps them to 
get there, why not?

Some corporate codebase dumpings might also be expected over there, 
which is good since they won't come knock on our doors then.

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Re: Sun copies Jakarta?

2003-06-10 Thread Sam Ruby
Santiago Gala wrote:
Steven Noels escribió:

On 10/06/2003 9:48 Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

or MS (http://www.gotdotnet.com/community/workspaces/directory.aspx)? 
Or Sourceforge? Savannah?

Diversity is what keeps Darwin's sledgehammer away, IMHO.
Darwin will take care of most such initiatives. But it looks like new 
marketing trends are being set up.

Now, how does this affect our ecosystem?
As little or as much as we want to let it.

Examples:

1) If an ASF Jakarta subproject were to come to depend on an java.net 
project, would I create a project definition for the java.net project in 
Gump?  Absolutely.

2) If the majority of committers to an ASF Jakarta subproject were to 
want to move their codebase to java.net, would I help them?  Absolutely.

Is the open source Java world big enough for both a Jakarta and a 
java.net?  Absolutely.

- Sam Ruby

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Re: Sun copies Jakarta?

2003-06-10 Thread Davanum Srinivas
I agree. It's just like depending on a open source project on sourceforge (Gump builds 
~60
projects from SF - http://cvs.apache.org/builds/gump/latest/modxref.html)

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--- Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Santiago Gala wrote:
  Steven Noels escribió:
  
  On 10/06/2003 9:48 Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
 
  or MS (http://www.gotdotnet.com/community/workspaces/directory.aspx)? 
  Or Sourceforge? Savannah?
 
  Diversity is what keeps Darwin's sledgehammer away, IMHO.
  
  Darwin will take care of most such initiatives. But it looks like new 
  marketing trends are being set up.
  
  Now, how does this affect our ecosystem?
 
 As little or as much as we want to let it.
 
 Examples:
 
 1) If an ASF Jakarta subproject were to come to depend on an java.net 
 project, would I create a project definition for the java.net project in 
 Gump?  Absolutely.
 
 2) If the majority of committers to an ASF Jakarta subproject were to 
 want to move their codebase to java.net, would I help them?  Absolutely.
 
 Is the open source Java world big enough for both a Jakarta and a 
 java.net?  Absolutely.
 
 - Sam Ruby
 
 
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