RE: help with installing tomcat on unix

2004-01-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman

 (a) check the logs for any messages
 (b) you might want to use [EMAIL PROTECTED]

One possibility could be something else blocking that port.

--- Noel

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help with installing tomcat on unix

2004-01-02 Thread K. A.
Hi,
 
I'm trying to install tomcat on solaris. I followed the installation instructions 
including changing the server.xml and web.xml files. However, it still won't run. When 
I check the default webpage at the port number 8080 it says that page can not be 
displayed. Does anyone have any idea what else I'm missing?
 
Thanks.


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RE: Ontology-based portals - RDF, LDAP, Xindice (was: java@apache)

2004-01-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Henri Yandell wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> The next level up is a community. Noel uses the word ontology here,
> but even though I started using this, I don't understand what it is,
> so have gone with something simpler. Easy to s+r out. I've defined a
> community xml file:

You described a portal made of communities, and each community having a
name, logo, members, url, description, projects.

I'm not clear on how you intend to model the (virtual) containment.  For
example, the items you list for a community could also be for a project.
Some of that can be implemented by determining that community's members are
a superset of the union of its projects' members.  So asking the model for a
list of a community's members would be that superset.  But other things are
singleton's, e.g., a portal, a community and a project may each have a
descrpiption, logo, etc., but asking the model for the item would depend
upon which container you were looking at.

As for an ontology (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ontology), we
could start thinking about how we might want to classify things: language,
implemented JSRs, implemented interfaces (e.g., a service provider for JNDI
or JavaMail), implemented RFCs (SMTP, S/MIME), client and/or server
interface (where applicable), etc.  We could also associate items with user
friendly classifications, such as web server, mail server, database server,
CMS, document processor, spreadsheet, etc., build upon the more precise
classifications.

See also: http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Software/
  http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/
  http://www.daml.org/
  http://www.daml.org/ontologies/ontologies.html
  http://sol1.cps.unizar.es:5080/ANTARCTICA/SRS/

Making some sense?

--- Noel


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Re: [License] for jars in CVS

2004-01-02 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Jan 2, 2004, at 2:10 PM, Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
You still need mechanisms to allow the developer to override the 
default
decisions checked in to the build scripts.  For nearly all of the 
"I've checked
in jars for the convenience of developers" packages I've evaluated for 
use fail
to allow such overrides, and hard code their build classpaths to point 
at the
checked in JARs only.
Well, we should address bad build file writing more than JAR's in CVS!  
:)  My build files follow this scheme 
 - and I 
have an Ant property for *each* JAR that can be easily overridden at 
many levels.

	Erik

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Re: [License] for jars in CVS

2004-01-02 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Quoting Danny Angus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> > I see what you are saying, but why is this an issue only with OGNL? Is it
> because of license
> > incompatibilities? 'Cause there are other jars in CVS both Apache and
> non-Apache.
> Harish,
> 
> It isn't only an issue with OGNL, it is a general issue which has been
> bubbling away for months.
> In principle it is not good to have Jars in CVS. In practice it makes life
> much easier for many people.

It also makes it more difficult for many other people -- especially those that
need to integrate lots of open source projects (with overlapping dependencies)
together.  The goal here is to ensure that all the modules you want to create
are built with (and tested with) the *same* versions of the common
dependencies, not the ones whose jars happen to be checked in to CVS for that
particular module.

You still need mechanisms to allow the developer to override the default
decisions checked in to the build scripts.  For nearly all of the "I've checked
in jars for the convenience of developers" packages I've evaluated for use fail
to allow such overrides, and hard code their build classpaths to point at the
checked in JARs only.

> There are moves afoot to produce some kind of
> jar download site which would provide the convenience of automated
> downloads with Ant or Maven, and comply with licence issues, and not
> require jars to be in CVS, cvs is not great at handling binaries.
> 
> d.
> 

Craig McClanahan


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Re: [License] for jars in CVS

2004-01-02 Thread Danny Angus




> I see what you are saying, but why is this an issue only with OGNL? Is it
because of license
> incompatibilities? 'Cause there are other jars in CVS both Apache and
non-Apache.
Harish,

It isn't only an issue with OGNL, it is a general issue which has been
bubbling away for months.
In principle it is not good to have Jars in CVS. In practice it makes life
much easier for many people. There are moves afoot to produce some kind of
jar download site which would provide the convenience of automated
downloads with Ant or Maven, and comply with licence issues, and not
require jars to be in CVS, cvs is not great at handling binaries.

d.



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