[VOTE] Updating PMC bylaws

2004-08-10 Thread Henri Yandell

Suggested new bylaws are at:

http://www.osjava.org/~hen/jakarta/management.html

The aim is to identify the current reality, rather than plan out a new set
of bylaws. I believe I've responded to the past week of comments,
sometimes by dropping things from the text as they require discussion
(ie: active/inactive projects).

Voting rules are that we need at least 3 +1 _PMC votes_, and a 3/4
majority of +1's to -1's. I'll announce results next Tuesday.

===
[ ] +1 - let's do it
[ ] -1 - not good
===

I think the above voting rule is fair enough, though there are others we
could use. Let's not worry too much about it unless we have major
disagreements. Also, if people have non-voting commentary, it would be
nice if they could change the subject (ie:  Madness   Was: [VOTE] Updating
PMC bylaws). Makes counting the votes a lot easier.

Hen



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Re: [VOTE] Updating PMC bylaws

2004-08-10 Thread Avik Sengupta
+1

On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 21:28, Henri Yandell wrote:
 Suggested new bylaws are at:
 
 http://www.osjava.org/~hen/jakarta/management.html
 
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RE: [VOTE] Updating PMC bylaws

2004-08-10 Thread Gary Gregory
Minor tweak under Membership: I would switch the 2 paragraphs such
that the voting-new-members-in bit comes before the I'm outta here
bit. Makes the item more positive methinks.

Gary

 -Original Message-
 From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 08:59
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: [VOTE] Updating PMC bylaws
 
 
 Suggested new bylaws are at:
 
 http://www.osjava.org/~hen/jakarta/management.html
 
 The aim is to identify the current reality, rather than plan out a new
set
 of bylaws. I believe I've responded to the past week of comments,
 sometimes by dropping things from the text as they require discussion
 (ie: active/inactive projects).
 
 Voting rules are that we need at least 3 +1 _PMC votes_, and a 3/4
 majority of +1's to -1's. I'll announce results next Tuesday.
 
 ===
 [ ] +1 - let's do it
 [ ] -1 - not good
 ===
 
 I think the above voting rule is fair enough, though there are others
we
 could use. Let's not worry too much about it unless we have major
 disagreements. Also, if people have non-voting commentary, it would be
 nice if they could change the subject (ie:  Madness   Was: [VOTE]
Updating
 PMC bylaws). Makes counting the votes a lot easier.
 
 Hen
 
 
 
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Slight change Was: [VOTE] Updating PMC bylaws

2004-08-10 Thread Henri Yandell

Sounds fine, and not a real change to the vote so I can slip that in.

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Gary Gregory wrote:

 Minor tweak under Membership: I would switch the 2 paragraphs such
 that the voting-new-members-in bit comes before the I'm outta here
 bit. Makes the item more positive methinks.

 Gary

  -Original Message-
  From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 08:59
  To: Jakarta General List
  Subject: [VOTE] Updating PMC bylaws
 
 
  Suggested new bylaws are at:
 
  http://www.osjava.org/~hen/jakarta/management.html
 
  The aim is to identify the current reality, rather than plan out a new
 set
  of bylaws. I believe I've responded to the past week of comments,
  sometimes by dropping things from the text as they require discussion
  (ie: active/inactive projects).
 
  Voting rules are that we need at least 3 +1 _PMC votes_, and a 3/4
  majority of +1's to -1's. I'll announce results next Tuesday.
 
  ===
  [ ] +1 - let's do it
  [ ] -1 - not good
  ===
 
  I think the above voting rule is fair enough, though there are others
 we
  could use. Let's not worry too much about it unless we have major
  disagreements. Also, if people have non-voting commentary, it would be
  nice if they could change the subject (ie:  Madness   Was: [VOTE]
 Updating
  PMC bylaws). Makes counting the votes a lot easier.
 
  Hen
 
 
 
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RE: [VOTE] Updating PMC bylaws

2004-08-10 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Hi,

Suggested new bylaws are at:

http://www.osjava.org/~hen/jakarta/management.html

The aim is to identify the current reality, rather than plan out a new
set
of bylaws. I believe I've responded to the past week of comments,
sometimes by dropping things from the text as they require discussion
(ie: active/inactive projects).

Voting rules are that we need at least 3 +1 _PMC votes_, and a 3/4
majority of +1's to -1's. I'll announce results next Tuesday.

===
[ X ] +1 - let's do it
[ ] -1 - not good
===

Yoav Shapira



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Re: [VOTE] Updating PMC bylaws

2004-08-10 Thread Michael Becke
+1
Mike
Henri Yandell wrote:
Suggested new bylaws are at:
http://www.osjava.org/~hen/jakarta/management.html
The aim is to identify the current reality, rather than plan out a new set
of bylaws. I believe I've responded to the past week of comments,
sometimes by dropping things from the text as they require discussion
(ie: active/inactive projects).
Voting rules are that we need at least 3 +1 _PMC votes_, and a 3/4
majority of +1's to -1's. I'll announce results next Tuesday.
===
[ ] +1 - let's do it
[ ] -1 - not good
===
I think the above voting rule is fair enough, though there are others we
could use. Let's not worry too much about it unless we have major
disagreements. Also, if people have non-voting commentary, it would be
nice if they could change the subject (ie:  Madness   Was: [VOTE] Updating
PMC bylaws). Makes counting the votes a lot easier.
Hen

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RE: [VOTE] Updating PMC bylaws

2004-08-10 Thread Mark Thomas
+1

Mark 

 -Original Message-
 From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 4:59 PM
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: [VOTE] Updating PMC bylaws
 
 
 Suggested new bylaws are at:
 
 http://www.osjava.org/~hen/jakarta/management.html
 
 The aim is to identify the current reality, rather than plan 
 out a new set
 of bylaws. I believe I've responded to the past week of comments,
 sometimes by dropping things from the text as they require discussion
 (ie: active/inactive projects).
 
 Voting rules are that we need at least 3 +1 _PMC votes_, and a 3/4
 majority of +1's to -1's. I'll announce results next Tuesday.
 
 ===
 [ ] +1 - let's do it
 [ ] -1 - not good
 ===
 
 I think the above voting rule is fair enough, though there 
 are others we
 could use. Let's not worry too much about it unless we have major
 disagreements. Also, if people have non-voting commentary, it would be
 nice if they could change the subject (ie:  Madness   Was: 
 [VOTE] Updating
 PMC bylaws). Makes counting the votes a lot easier.
 
 Hen
 
 
 
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Re: [VOTE] Updating PMC bylaws

2004-08-10 Thread Erik Hatcher
+1
On Aug 10, 2004, at 11:58 AM, Henri Yandell wrote:
Suggested new bylaws are at:
http://www.osjava.org/~hen/jakarta/management.html
The aim is to identify the current reality, rather than plan out a new 
set
of bylaws. I believe I've responded to the past week of comments,
sometimes by dropping things from the text as they require discussion
(ie: active/inactive projects).

Voting rules are that we need at least 3 +1 _PMC votes_, and a 3/4
majority of +1's to -1's. I'll announce results next Tuesday.
===
[ ] +1 - let's do it
[ ] -1 - not good
===
I think the above voting rule is fair enough, though there are others 
we
could use. Let's not worry too much about it unless we have major
disagreements. Also, if people have non-voting commentary, it would be
nice if they could change the subject (ie:  Madness   Was: [VOTE] 
Updating
PMC bylaws). Makes counting the votes a lot easier.

Hen

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Re: [VOTE] Updating PMC bylaws

2004-08-10 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
+1
Oliver
Henri Yandell wrote:
Suggested new bylaws are at:
http://www.osjava.org/~hen/jakarta/management.html
The aim is to identify the current reality, rather than plan out a new set
of bylaws. I believe I've responded to the past week of comments,
sometimes by dropping things from the text as they require discussion
(ie: active/inactive projects).
Voting rules are that we need at least 3 +1 _PMC votes_, and a 3/4
majority of +1's to -1's. I'll announce results next Tuesday.
===
[ ] +1 - let's do it
[ ] -1 - not good
===
I think the above voting rule is fair enough, though there are others we
could use. Let's not worry too much about it unless we have major
disagreements. Also, if people have non-voting commentary, it would be
nice if they could change the subject (ie:  Madness   Was: [VOTE] Updating
PMC bylaws). Makes counting the votes a lot easier.
Hen

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Re: [VOTE] Updating PMC bylaws

2004-08-10 Thread Adrian Sutton
+1
Adrian Sutton.
On 11/08/2004, at 1:58 AM, Henri Yandell wrote:
Suggested new bylaws are at:
http://www.osjava.org/~hen/jakarta/management.html
The aim is to identify the current reality, rather than plan out a new 
set
of bylaws. I believe I've responded to the past week of comments,
sometimes by dropping things from the text as they require discussion
(ie: active/inactive projects).

Voting rules are that we need at least 3 +1 _PMC votes_, and a 3/4
majority of +1's to -1's. I'll announce results next Tuesday.
===
[ ] +1 - let's do it
[ ] -1 - not good
===
I think the above voting rule is fair enough, though there are others 
we
could use. Let's not worry too much about it unless we have major
disagreements. Also, if people have non-voting commentary, it would be
nice if they could change the subject (ie:  Madness   Was: [VOTE] 
Updating
PMC bylaws). Makes counting the votes a lot easier.

Hen

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Re: [VOTE] Updating PMC bylaws

2004-08-10 Thread Phil Steitz
+1
Phil
Suggested new bylaws are at:
http://www.osjava.org/~hen/jakarta/management.html
The aim is to identify the current reality, rather than plan out a new 
set
of bylaws. I believe I've responded to the past week of comments,
sometimes by dropping things from the text as they require discussion
(ie: active/inactive projects).

Voting rules are that we need at least 3 +1 _PMC votes_, and a 3/4
majority of +1's to -1's. I'll announce results next Tuesday.
===
[ ] +1 - let's do it
[ ] -1 - not good
===
I think the above voting rule is fair enough, though there are others we
could use. Let's not worry too much about it unless we have major
disagreements. Also, if people have non-voting commentary, it would be
nice if they could change the subject (ie:  Madness   Was: [VOTE] 
Updating
PMC bylaws). Makes counting the votes a lot easier.

Hen

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[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaReport-July2004

2004-08-10 Thread general
   Date: 2004-08-10T21:41:46
   Editor: HenriYandell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Wiki: Jakarta Wiki
   Page: JakartaReport-July2004
   URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaReport-July2004

   Couple of other releases.

Change Log:

--
@@ -6,15 +6,16 @@
 
 === Releases ===
 
- * Commons Codec (coming)
+ * 26 July 2004 - JK 1.2.6 Released
+ * 21 July 2004 - Standard Taglibs 1.1.1 and 1.0.6 Released
  * 15 July 2004 -  Tomcat 5.0.27 Stable Released
  * 03 July 2004 - HiveMind 1.0-beta-1 Released
  * 03 July 2004 - Commons Betwixt 0.5 Released
 
 === Community changes ===
 
-Travis Savo joins as a committer (no access yet).
-James M. Mason joins as a committer to Slide.
+* Travis Savo joins as a committer (no access yet).
+* James M. Mason joins as a committer to Slide.
 
 === Subproject news ===
 

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[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaReport

2004-08-10 Thread general
   Date: 2004-08-10T21:42:47
   Editor: HenriYandell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Wiki: Jakarta Wiki
   Page: JakartaReport
   URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaReport

   Linking August in

Change Log:

--
@@ -38,3 +38,4 @@
  * [JakartaReport-June2004]
  * [JakartaReport-July2004]
  * [JakartaBoardReport-July2004]
+ * [JakartaReport-August2004]

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[Jakarta Wiki] New: JakartaReport-August2004

2004-08-10 Thread general
   Date: 2004-08-10T21:47:55
   Editor: HenriYandell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Wiki: Jakarta Wiki
   Page: JakartaReport-August2004
   URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaReport-August2004

   Starting an August report

New Page:

== August 2004 ==

=== Status ===

We are updating the PMC bylaws to bring them back in touch with the current reality.

=== Releases ===

 * 02 August 2004 - HiveMind 1.0-beta-2
 * 02 August 2004 - Commons BeanUtils 1.7
 * 01 August 2004 - Commons JXPath 1.2
 * 01 August 2004 - Commons HttpClient 2.0.1

=== Community changes ===

 * 09 August 2004 - Davide Savazzi (dsavazzi)
 * 09 August 2004 - Ryan Rhodes (rrhodes)
 * 31 July 2004 - Daniel Naber (dnaber)

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Re: [VOTE] Updating PMC bylaws

2004-08-10 Thread Bill Barker
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 [X] +1 - let's do it
 [ ] -1 - not good
 ===
 


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