Re: VOTE: Tomcat - TLP
Ian F. Darwin wrote: [ X ] +1 Vote in support Rémy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change
Jim Jagielski wrote: On Mar 20, 2005, at 7:20 PM, Bill Barker wrote: And, yet, all of the complaints about the article have been from people that aren't involved with Tomcat development ;-). I think that's an unfair statement... does that fact diminish the accuracy of what anyone is saying? I would also wager that if it had been any other company with any other ASF project, there would have been just the same discussion. Cool :) What if I, on the opposite, contend that if it had been any other company with any other ASF project, nobody would have bothered ? Can you prove me wrong ? Rémy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change
Jim Jagielski wrote: That would be kind of impossible to do, logically :) But I would agree that other companies have occasionally crossed lines that should not have been crossed, both companies associated with ASF projects and external companies that have no ties or links at all. In those cases we (the ASF and/or the projects affected) have requested retractions/corrections/removals/etc... And as I've mentioned before, I don't think there's anyone here who has not been misquoted or mis-represented (by journalists or over-eager PR types) to the extent where they were embarassed-to-angry about it. I *know* it's a struggle. I'm not trivializing it in the least. Great, so you manage to sneak by an assertion that a line have been crossed here. Cool debate ;) The small mistake made on our wesite has been made by the entire Java industry. The person who wrote the page (it was not me) just made the same mistake everyone else did, period. Nobody is actually confused by it (since they were already confused), and there are no issue about confusion with another product. At this point, how about simply kicking me out and ending the problems faster ? Just one quick vote on board@ and any future issues disappear magically. I will not repent/apologize/atone/change my behavior, etc, nor ask my company to repent/apologize/atone/change its behavior, since I think they made all the necessary adjustments already. One thing is certain: I will not bother wasting my time to defend my company or myself in this kind of ridiculous thread. I already sent a couple emails with simple explanations when it was requested. My personal view on the ASF is that I should do more code, less politics, which seems to bring more value. As a result, I am at the mercy of the politician gang ... Feels like real life, though ;) Rémy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change
Jim Jagielski wrote: On Mar 21, 2005, at 10:24 AM, Remy Maucherat wrote: Great, so you manage to sneak by an assertion that a line have been crossed here. Cool debate ;) My intent was not to make an accusation but rather a simple statement that any issue we are talking about is not unique or particular to any one company. Yes, I think the SD tagline is a line that was crossed. Geez... I go out of my way to make this NOT a JBoss thing, to and it falls on deaf ears. How about reading the rest of the Email instead of one line that you took the wrong way? There's still some murkiness in the branding. I sent an email, and it seems our PR person was told by Brian that Tomcat should be called Apache Jakarta Tomcat (which we actually used a while ago, but not anymore). At this point, how about simply kicking me out and ending the problems faster ? Just one quick vote on board@ and any future issues disappear magically. Oh foo. No one is remotely suggesting that. If the issue is to reappear every time there's an article/PR/etc, then there's no point. Rémy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change
Henri Yandell wrote: Due to the timeliness of this, I plan to send it Sunday night. Given that we're on a weekend, I doubt it will be read until Monday. Any opinions? I am definitely contributing to Tomcat as part of my employment at JBoss. I am not contributing on my own free time to Tomcat as an individual at the moment, and (as far as I can remember, as it was a while ago ...) have submitted a company CLA reflecting that (http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas). Anyway, it is obvious Apache has the notion of company contributions. Stating otherwise is wrong, and does not match the legal documents the ASF uses. I think continuing with the current attitude would only lead my company to reevaluate its involvement in ASF projects, and I could not really blame them if they did. Of course, this may be what some people here seek (hopefully, it is not and it's just my paranoia at work). Rémy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] [site] New download pages
Henri Yandell wrote: I'd like to go ahead and move to my suggested new download pages: http://jakarta.apache.org/~bayard/jakarta/site/downloads/downloads.html [X] +1 [ ] -1 It's very good. Rémy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adding project version to bugzilla
Shapira, Yoav wrote: Hi, Please remind me what I need to do / whom I need to ask that a new version (e.g. 5.0.26 and 5.0.27 for tomcat) be added to the list in Bugzilla's Version field? Thanks, I don't remember anymore who's the bugzilla admin. I can edit versions, but got that a few years ago. Rémy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ANNOUCEMENT] Apache Tomcat 4.1.3 Beta
Apache Tomcat 4.1.3 Beta, the first beta release of the 4.1.x release cycle, is now available. Over Tomcat 4.0.x, Tomcat 4.1.x includes the following major new features: * JMX based administration features * JSP and Struts based administration web application * New HTTP/1.1 connector * New AJP 1.3 connector * Rewritten Jasper JSP page compiler * Performance and memory efficiency improvements * Enhanced manager application support for integration with development tools. * Custom Ant tasks to interact with the manager application directly from build.xml scripts. * Many other miscanellous improvements Major changes over 4.1.2 include: * Rewritten SSI servlet * Ant based Jasper compiler * Many administration webapp fixes * Many other miscanellous fixes (see release notes for the complete list) Downloads (source and binaries): http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/v4.1.3-beta/ Remy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Job postings ?
Hi, Just wondering if posting Tomcat-specific job offers on the list is acceptable, or if there is another place I could post that too (the rationale would be to be able to hire someone with extensive Tomcat knowledge, and even better someone already involved with the community). Since there's now a Vendor page on the Jakarta website, maybe I could add a Job Listings page :) Comments ? Remy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation (fwd)
What we must do is make sure that all the libraries implementing JCP specs that we decide to use do get and pass their TCKs. That includes openJMX for tomcat, probably others ( openJMX is probably the most important for most server side projects ). Yes indeed. The biggest problem with the agreement is that it is not retroactive, and I don't see JMX in the retroactive list. Is the JMX TCK going to be available anyway ? BTW, OpenJMX = MX4J now. Remy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache
After some thinking, I'm going to accept the nomination, even if I don't quite believe jakarta needs 'management', 'committee' or any other function besides 'jakarta commiter'. Lol. Sellout ! You're joining the establishment now ! ;-) I think I'll vote for you :) Remy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta-Meeting
I wonder how people would feel about moving the actual PMC business to another list, like Jakarta-Meeting. It's obvious that we need a General list for open discussions, but I believe that it would be appropriate to have a public list focussed on the business of the PMC, being oversight of the Jakarta codebase and its Web site. I bring this up now since I would like to know how the people nominated as candidates in the PMC elections feel about this. Does this mean you're not interested in my opinion, as I haven't been nominated ? ;-) +1 if it's a public list (anyone can subscribe) -1 if it's a private list Remy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta PMC Nomination - Rejection
Hey all, I just wanted to say that I'm not going to accept my Jakarta PMC nomination and do not want to be included in the voting for the next election. I have been involved with Java Apache/Jakarta since Sept 1996 and I think that it is time for me to move on from being politically responsible for this group. Honestly, I'm jaded and burned out on it all. Your fireball made it look like you had a lot of extra energy left ;-) Anyway, thanks for all the work. That said, I recently signed a 10 year lease on a prime event space in downtown San Francisco and I am moving towards spending more time being a big time night club owner than working on Jakarta. More info: http://www.studioz.tv/ (p.s. that site is built with Anakia smile) Another famous OSS guy did that also (http://www.jwz.org/). Are you guys starting a trend ? :) I also just released Scarab 1.0b1 and am focused primarily on making Scarab the best issue tracking tool around. Expect to see more great developments on this project. It is by far, one of the best designed, largest and most complex pieces of software that I have ever had the pleasure of helping develop. It will be around for a very long time and will eventually put Bugzilla out of business. More info: http://scarab.tigris.org/ Scarab 1.0 at last !!! :) I think we can start checking it out to replace Bugzilla with it eventually. I'm sure Justy will volunteer to start playing with it on nagoya. Remy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Site update
Hi, When doing site updates, please don't forget to update before starting editing. For example, Berin reverted many changes to the news and binary pages. Remy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Site update
On 10/27/01 4:27 PM, Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, When doing site updates, please don't forget to update before starting editing. For example, Berin reverted many changes to the news and binary pages. Shouldn't the cvs commit caught that on the merge? Somehow, it didn't. You can see the diff between 1.93 and 1.94 of the binary index page: RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/binindex.xml,v retrieving revision 1.93 retrieving revision 1.94 diff -r1.93 -r1.94 73,75c73,76 lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-ant/release/v1.4.1/bin/;An t 1.4.1/a/li lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-avalon/release/framework/v4 .0Avalon Framework 4.0/a/li lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-avalon/release/excalibur/v4 .0Avalon Excalibur 4.0/a/li --- lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-ant/release/v1.4/bin/;Ant 1.4/a/li lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-avalon/release/framework/v4 .0/Avalon Framework 4.0/a/li lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-avalon/release/excalibur/v4 .0/Avalon Excalibur 4.0/a/li lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-avalon/release/logkit/v1.0/ Avalon LogKit 1.0/a/li 87,88c88 lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat/release/v3.3/bin/;T omcat 3.3/a/li lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/v4.0.1/; Tomcat 4.0.1/a/li --- lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/v4.0/;T omcat 4.0/a/li 98c98 lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-avalon/release/logkit/lates t/Avalon LogKit 1.0 beta 5/a/li --- lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-ant/release/v1.4.1b1/;Ant 1.4.1 beta 1/a/li 100,101c100,102 lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-lucene/release/v1.2-rc2/;L ucene 1.2 Release Candidate 2/a/li lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-slide/release/1.0/;Slide 1.0.15 Beta/a/li --- lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-lucene/release/v1.2-rc1/;L ucene 1.2 Release Candidate 1/a/li lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat/release/v3.3-rc1/bin /Tomcat 3.3 Release Candidate 1/a/li 118d118 lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-slide/nightly/;Slide/a/ li So the affected links include Tomcat, Ant, Slide, Lucene. Same happened to the news page. Remy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [proposal] Jakarta Deprecation Policy
Well, there haven't been many flame wars around here recently, so let me start one. I seem to be good at that. :-) What I propose is that we take this document (or one similar to it) and migrate it up to the overall Jakarta Project instead of just being a Turbine policy and get all the projects to sign their name on it. http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/deprecation.html I think it would go a long way towards raising awareness of the need to deprecate things (thanks to Sam starting this with Gump) as well as make the corporate types feel more comfortable with regards to depending on that Open Source Software stuff... Comments? +1. My only comment : you should always be allowed any API change when you change the major revision number, without a deprecation phase (for example, I think it's ok if version 2.0, immediately following version 1.62, has a different API). Remy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jakarta FAQ
Hi, I'd like to get an account on the Jakarta FAQ. I read what is there : http://jakarta.apache.org:8080/jyve-faq/Turbine/screen/DisplayProjects I talked with Alex, but apparently the account activation failed, and I couldn't get in touch with him since. Could one of the roots help me out ? My login is remm. Thanks, Remy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nominations for the Jakata PMC
Quoting Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [ ] Peter Donald [ ] Diane Holt [ ] Ted Husted [ ] Ceki Glc [ ] Geir Magnusson Jr. [ ] Daniel F. Savarese [ ] Jason van Zyl I'm a bit disappointed by that list, which doesn't include Costin. I'm starting to think that what he said a while ago (basically, that nobody here cares about code and contributions, and that it's all about politics) is really true after all. IMHO, the best election process would be to let the committers submit a ballot containing the list of committers they want to have in the PMC. Then, just choose the 10 - 15 committers who got the most votes. To voice my disapproval with the current process, I won't participate in the current ballot. Remy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
