[Jakarta Wiki] Update of JakartaBoardReport-February2007 by MartinvandenBemt

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We are in 2007 it seems

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  == Jakarta Board Report ==

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[Jakarta Wiki] Update of JakartaBoardReport-February2007 by MartinvandenBemt

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  === Infrastructure news ===
  
- Changes to the projects infrastructure. Migrations to Subversion, new vmware 
instances etc.
+ Started to investigate the moderators we have and contacting all the 
moderators asking if they are still active. If there are gaps, I will try to 
fill the void by finding volunteers. This way we prevent that lists aren't 
moderated.
  
  === Subproject news ===
  
- News related to various subprojects, if they have news. Volunteers for 
subproject news are desired, otherwise the Chair is responsible for finding out 
said news (and should mark that they had to do so).
+ News related to various subprojects, if they have news. Volunteers for 
subproject news are desired, otherwise the Chair is responsible for finding out 
said news (and should mark that they had to do so). Sections with a prefix of 
MvdB are notes added by the chair
  
   BCEL 
  
+ MvdB :
+ 
+ Some user questions, further no action taken on the future of BCEL (on the 
list is contacting the 2 currently exising forks out there, to see if there is 
interenst in moving development back to Jakarta. Afaik Findbugs and AspectJ 
have forks.
+ 
   BSF 
  
+ MvdB :
+ 
+ They are currently planning for a 3.0 release and for jsr223 they are 
investigating to get the TCK. Geir is in the process of arranging things.
+ 
   Cactus 
+ 
+ MvdB : 
+ 
+ Cactus development was stalled and recently Petar Tahchiev sent a mail to the 
list, saying he had continued development of cactus on 
https://mamouth.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/mamouth. I (=Martin van den Bemt) 
am currently in the process of informing Petar on what actions to take (eg Code 
Grants/CLA/CCLA) to move development back to the cactus project. When the 
paperwork is there, we will run the code base through the incubator (at a 
minimum legal).
  
   Commons 
  
@@ -209, +221 @@

  
   JCS 
  
+ MvdB :
+ 
+ JIRA notifications are send to the list now. Not much development happening 
currently.
+ 
   JMeter 
  
+ MvdB :
+ 
+ Active as always. The concern about the lack of committers for JMeter in my 
last report is weakened by the fact that other people are stil involved, 
although don't currently have any cycles to spare.
+ 
+ 
   ORO 
  
  Apart from the occasional regexp question, the ORO is inactive and ready for 
dormancy.
  
   POI 
  
- Added Mark Thomas to the POI Committer list. Actively working on a release.
+ MvdB :
+ 
+ Added Mark Thomas to the POI Committer list. Actively working on a release, 
which is planned for the beginning of March. After that release next steps will 
be taken in a move to TLP.
  
   Regexp 
  
@@ -225, +248 @@

  
   Slide 
  
+ MvdB :
+ 
+ Activity is picking up and a potential other committer candidate was 
introduced, which means more patches and more activity.
+ I am also currently investigating if I can use Slide for my self, so who 
knows :)
+ 
   Taglibs 
  
  A 1.1.3 release of the Jakarta Standard Taglib is being worked on. The RDC 
taglig has activity - however apart from that all of the taglibs should be 
considered Inactive and available for dormancy.

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[Jakarta Wiki] Update of JakartaBoardReport-February2007 by MartinvandenBemt

2007-02-19 Thread Apache Wiki
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Personal notes and some additions

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  === Status ===
  
- Chair to summarize Jakarta-wide news + the current state of affairs.
+ This board report was mainly constructed by other people than me, which is a 
big improvement (thanks everyone). I also moved the board report to a fixed 
location on the wiki 
(http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-current), so it's easier to 
locate for people.
+ The code grant for the not yet commons SSL (formerly named commons-ssl), has 
been completed, so we can progress to having a vote where SSL should end up on 
general and based on that result take the correct incubator path (legal / full 
incubation).
+ 
+ What is not completely clear for me at this point, is the board report 
schedule. An extra report was requested (lack of commons projects in the 
report). Reporting next month again will be a lot of work, since my goal is to 
report on every subproject (even if there is no or hardly any activity).
+ 
+ Inactive projects
+ 
+ Disclaimer : we have lot's of active projects !
+ 
+ Definition list :
+ 
+ Inactive project = a project that has no *developer* community.
+ 
+ The Apache Way :
+ 
+ To become committer on a project you have to earn that right, you have to 
stand out, submit patches, show you care, learn the apache way and have to get 
noticed by the current committers who can nominate such a person.
+ 
+ Problem :
+ 
+ If that didn't happen enough in the past, it can happen that at a certain 
point no developer community is active anymore.
+ 
+ Which causes :
+ 
+ A catch22 situation. Since there is no developer community, no one is able to 
determine if people deserve to become a committer. Even if you are monitoring 
such a list (such as I do for all Jakarta lists), it is hard to determine if 
people deserve committership.
+ 
+ Solution :
+ 
+ The only thing we know for sure : inactive projects needs someone to mentor 
the project to become active again. This goes for all possible scenario's :
+ 
+  1. Actively support forks and when they show they are capable to work on the 
project, get the code back (needs mentoring, grants, etc)
+  2. More liberal in getting committers on board
+  3. Actively following the user / dev lists and issue trackers to see if 
there is someone ready for committer ship. (is the normal way, although the 
focus here is not if patches etc are technically correct)
+ 
+ I like to prevent Jakarta becoming some kind of collection with inactive 
project, so the first goal is preventing that this scenario occurs on our 
current subprojects where possible. So I would like to ask the current active 
developers to invest a little bit more time in looking what others are doing.
+ 
+ I think this discussion is also useful to have on the incubator list.
  
  === Releases ===
  
@@ -241, +276 @@

  MvdB :
  
  Added Mark Thomas to the POI Committer list. Actively working on a release, 
which is planned for the beginning of March. After that release next steps will 
be taken in a move to TLP.
+ All headers, notices are up-to-date and the build process have been updated 
to accomodate a correct release.
  
   Regexp 
  

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