Re: [OT] Which Linux distribution for Java development?

2005-01-10 Thread Danny Angus
sorry I mistyped 1.2.4 for 1.4.2 !

 issue with RedHat
 Enterprise and J2sdk 1.2.4,


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Re: [OT] Which Linux distribution for Java development?

2005-01-08 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Esp jdk 1.3 was a PITA under linux. afaik sun finally fixed their bugs,
so it should run a lot better..

Mvgr,
Martin

On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 10:13, Danny Angus wrote:
  One thing you *may* care about is using certified Java VM.
 
 You should also be aware that there are issues with combinations of JVM and
 Linux, at work we're still trying to resolve an issue with RedHat
 Enterprise and J2sdk 1.2.4, and there were significant issues with certain
 earlier redhat and 1.3 combinations.
 
 That said these tend not to be noticable in development, and only bite you
 in the arse when you proudly set your work free and watch it fail to cope
 with heavy load or fail to achieve high uptimes
 
 But as they we say in English, c'est la vie!
 
 d.
 
 
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Re: [OT] Which Linux distribution for Java development?

2005-01-07 Thread Danny Angus

 One thing you *may* care about is using certified Java VM.

You should also be aware that there are issues with combinations of JVM and
Linux, at work we're still trying to resolve an issue with RedHat
Enterprise and J2sdk 1.2.4, and there were significant issues with certain
earlier redhat and 1.3 combinations.

That said these tend not to be noticable in development, and only bite you
in the arse when you proudly set your work free and watch it fail to cope
with heavy load or fail to achieve high uptimes

But as they we say in English, c'est la vie!

d.


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[OT] Which Linux distribution for Java development?

2005-01-06 Thread Dennis Lundberg
I'm considering moving to a Linux environment for my Java development. 
Which distros would be a good choice and which should one stay away from?

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Re: [OT] Which Linux distribution for Java development?

2005-01-06 Thread Henri Yandell
Tbh, probably not a lot of difference, especially compared to the 
differences between the distros themselves.

Avoid going to the *BSD's.
I'd recommend not using the Java bits that come with the distro, but 
installing it all yourself.

Otherwise, choose the distro for the other reasons. As a developer, you'll 
probably want to avoid the consumer Linuxes, Linspire etc.

Hen
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Re: [OT] Which Linux distribution for Java development?

2005-01-06 Thread Alain Gaeremynck
Mandrake is the most User centric desktop distro that i know of.  It is 
base on the red hat core and it has a control panel application to 
manage the configuration of the different componant.  Since i was 
fortunate enough to get a lot of help when i first switched from windows 
to Linux i am more then happy to return the favor so if you have any 
specific question related to linux don't hesitate to contact me off the 
list so has not to clutter it with non jakarta related chatter

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Re: [OT] Which Linux distribution for Java development?

2005-01-06 Thread robert burrell donkin
i'd say now that provided you go for an up-to-date distribution, you 
shouldn't notice much difference between most distro's when it comes to 
java (so you probably want to choose on some other basis).

the biggest choice is how you install your java: the traditional way 
(stuff everything somewhere odd in /opt or /var outside the standard 
linux directory structure) or use a packaging system such as 
http://www.jpackage.org/ (which is now pretty good).

i've used mandrake as a secondary java development environment for a 
number of years and have no complaints. i've done some work on a fedora 
box recently and been very impressed (i used to hate red hat). debian 
is very good for servers but less so for java development using a GUI. 
it has a well deserved reputation for being tough for newbies but is 
very powerful. (i installed my last server with debian and haven't had 
a single regret.)

- robert
On 6 Jan 2005, at 20:05, Alain Gaeremynck wrote:
Mandrake is the most User centric desktop distro that i know of.  It 
is base on the red hat core and it has a control panel application to 
manage the configuration of the different componant.  Since i was 
fortunate enough to get a lot of help when i first switched from 
windows to Linux i am more then happy to return the favor so if you 
have any specific question related to linux don't hesitate to contact 
me off the list so has not to clutter it with non jakarta related 
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Re: [OT] Which Linux distribution for Java development?

2005-01-06 Thread Dain Sundstrom
One thing you *may* care about is using certified Java VM.  Sun 
requires that a VM be certified on an exact distribution, so if you use 
a VM certified for Red Hat on say Mandrake, you are using a 
non-certified installation.  I know this sound incredibly lame, but it 
is very important for projects like Geronimo where we are working on 
certifying our code, since Sun only allows a library to be certified on 
a certified VM.  FWIU, the only linux distros with certified VMs are 
Red Hat (enterprise?) and Suse.

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On Jan 6, 2005, at 1:00 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote:
i'd say now that provided you go for an up-to-date distribution, you 
shouldn't notice much difference between most distro's when it comes 
to java (so you probably want to choose on some other basis).

the biggest choice is how you install your java: the traditional way 
(stuff everything somewhere odd in /opt or /var outside the standard 
linux directory structure) or use a packaging system such as 
http://www.jpackage.org/ (which is now pretty good).

i've used mandrake as a secondary java development environment for a 
number of years and have no complaints. i've done some work on a 
fedora box recently and been very impressed (i used to hate red hat). 
debian is very good for servers but less so for java development using 
a GUI. it has a well deserved reputation for being tough for newbies 
but is very powerful. (i installed my last server with debian and 
haven't had a single regret.)

- robert
On 6 Jan 2005, at 20:05, Alain Gaeremynck wrote:
Mandrake is the most User centric desktop distro that i know of.  It 
is base on the red hat core and it has a control panel application to 
manage the configuration of the different componant.  Since i was 
fortunate enough to get a lot of help when i first switched from 
windows to Linux i am more then happy to return the favor so if you 
have any specific question related to linux don't hesitate to contact 
me off the list so has not to clutter it with non jakarta related 
chatter

Dennis Lundberg wrote:
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Re: [OT] Which Linux distribution for Java development?

2005-01-06 Thread Felipe Leme
Opt for one with support for NPTL - RH 9 was the first mainstream distro
to have it available, but I think most of then supports it now:

http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/JavaTechandLinux/RedHat/

Another aspect that I think it's very important is good fonts - that's
the main reason I prefer Eclipse over Swing-based IDEs...

-- Felipe


On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 17:28, Dennis Lundberg wrote:
 I'm considering moving to a Linux environment for my Java development. 
 Which distros would be a good choice and which should one stay away from?



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