Re: Open ThunderGraph in Jakarta ?
Martin van den Bemt wrote: Love to see a gui framework / tools thingy on apache.. Working on that stuff a lot lately (of course has a Apache Style License) Jesktop (http://jesktop.sourceforge.net/) is written by Apache commiters, Avalon based and could be a good foundation for a GUI project ;-) Regards, Santiago Mvgr, Martin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Open ThunderGraph in Jakarta ?
Hi to all, I'm using OpenThunderGraph in my day job (http://sourceforge.net/projects/thundergraph/) It's really a great graph library which may be used in both server-side and client-side application. It support many type of Graph and some nice features like AutoZoom of part of graph (in applets). I contacted the main developper and he seems to be ok with making OpenTG a jakarta project. So what do you think about it as a sub-project, or as a jakarta-commons subprojec ? Regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Open ThunderGraph in Jakarta ?
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Henri Gomez wrote: (http://sourceforge.net/projects/thundergraph/) I contacted the main developper and he seems to be ok with making OpenTG a jakarta project. So what do you think about it as a sub-project, or as a jakarta-commons subprojec ? I have reservations: 1) It's definitely a GUI focused project. Jakarta as a project has not yet made any moves to support Java projects which do not have some form of server aspect. Just as DB based Java projects are going into db.apache.org, I think there ought to be a gui.apache.org [better name needed] for this kind of thing. 2) This is a bit like a company looking at using Product X. If Jakarta is inviting projects in, what are the criteria. Why is ThunderGraph better than the alternatives? Rather than digesting ThunderGraph into Jakarta, it'd be nice to see Apache backing some form of ASF-way-like community for gui'd components, ie) gui taglibs [we currently do quite abstract taglibs], components, applets etc. If we're 'acquiring projects', I think we need some rules of acquisition. Sorry for such a negative reply, Hen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Open ThunderGraph in Jakarta ?
I have reservations: Let's go... 1) It's definitely a GUI focused project. Jakarta as a project has not yet made any moves to support Java projects which do not have some form of server aspect. Just as DB based Java projects are going into db.apache.org, I think there ought to be a gui.apache.org [better name needed] for this kind of thing. TG is not 100% GUI oriented since it could be used to produce graphics in a server side environment, and as such works great with tomcats. 2) This is a bit like a company looking at using Product X. If Jakarta is inviting projects in, what are the criteria. Why is ThunderGraph better than the alternatives? There is alternative, like JOpenGraph, but they don't want to switch from GPL/LGPL to BSD/ASF, which is a pre-requisite ;) Rather than digesting ThunderGraph into Jakarta, it'd be nice to see Apache backing some form of ASF-way-like community for gui'd components, ie) gui taglibs [we currently do quite abstract taglibs], components, applets etc. How can it be realised ? ASF umbrella is very attractive to developpers and there is a great community which may find interesting to be involved in gui projects. Couldn't we have TG and others GUI related projects under jakarta-commons or in a related structure, ie jakarta-guis ? If we're 'acquiring projects', I think we need some rules of acquisition. Sorry for such a negative reply, I'll live with it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Re: Open ThunderGraph in Jakarta ?
Good dialogue. At 04:32 PM 1/28/03 +0100, you wrote: I have reservations: Let's go... 1) It's definitely a GUI focused project. Jakarta as a project has not yet made any moves to support Java projects which do not have some form of server aspect. Just as DB based Java projects are going into db.apache.org, I think there ought to be a gui.apache.org [better name needed] for this kind of thing. TG is not 100% GUI oriented since it could be used to produce graphics in a server side environment, and as such works great with tomcats. 2) This is a bit like a company looking at using Product X. If Jakarta is inviting projects in, what are the criteria. Why is ThunderGraph better than the alternatives? There is alternative, like JOpenGraph, but they don't want to switch from GPL/LGPL to BSD/ASF, which is a pre-requisite ;) Rather than digesting ThunderGraph into Jakarta, it'd be nice to see Apache backing some form of ASF-way-like community for gui'd components, ie) gui taglibs [we currently do quite abstract taglibs], components, applets etc. How can it be realised ? ASF umbrella is very attractive to developpers and there is a great community which may find interesting to be involved in gui projects. Couldn't we have TG and others GUI related projects under jakarta-commons or in a related structure, ie jakarta-guis ? If we're 'acquiring projects', I think we need some rules of acquisition. Sorry for such a negative reply, I'll live with it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] LEGAL NOTICE This electronic mail transmission and any accompanying documents contain information belonging to the sender which may be confidential and legally privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom this electronic mail transmission was sent as indicated above. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of the information contained in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete the message. Thank you -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Open ThunderGraph in Jakarta ?
Love to see a gui framework / tools thingy on apache.. Working on that stuff a lot lately (of course has a Apache Style License) Mvgr, Martin On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 16:32, Henri Gomez wrote: I have reservations: Let's go... 1) It's definitely a GUI focused project. Jakarta as a project has not yet made any moves to support Java projects which do not have some form of server aspect. Just as DB based Java projects are going into db.apache.org, I think there ought to be a gui.apache.org [better name needed] for this kind of thing. TG is not 100% GUI oriented since it could be used to produce graphics in a server side environment, and as such works great with tomcats. 2) This is a bit like a company looking at using Product X. If Jakarta is inviting projects in, what are the criteria. Why is ThunderGraph better than the alternatives? There is alternative, like JOpenGraph, but they don't want to switch from GPL/LGPL to BSD/ASF, which is a pre-requisite ;) Rather than digesting ThunderGraph into Jakarta, it'd be nice to see Apache backing some form of ASF-way-like community for gui'd components, ie) gui taglibs [we currently do quite abstract taglibs], components, applets etc. How can it be realised ? ASF umbrella is very attractive to developpers and there is a great community which may find interesting to be involved in gui projects. Couldn't we have TG and others GUI related projects under jakarta-commons or in a related structure, ie jakarta-guis ? If we're 'acquiring projects', I think we need some rules of acquisition. Sorry for such a negative reply, I'll live with it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
