RE: FW: PMC contact for Wiki Admin
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Re: FW: PMC contact for Wiki Admin
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Tim Colson (tcolson) wrote: Hello Most Reverent and Kind Jakarta Gentlefolk :-) I have a suggestion/request and it seems this might (or might not) be the place to suggest/request it. :-) As per below... I'd like to request the MoinMoin wiki be upgraded to 1.3.x. Personally I'd love to see Confluence replace the Python Moin Moin, since Confluence is written in Java, shows off Jakarta through the use of many Jakarta packages, and shows support open source projects by being FREE for them. I'm a fan of Jira, and I use Confluence, but I've found it over-complicated for my normal needs and much prefer the looser MoinMoin or JSPWiki setups. On the Java point, there're a lot of python coders at Apache too, and while it's tempting to want our webserver to be Tomcat, our mail server to be James and our wiki to be implemented in Java, there's a pragmatism that we shouldn't overdo things :) That said, there are reasons to prefer Confluence. Generating the website/documentation in the way that Codehaus does would be one such reason. If its wealth of features are desired, Confluence would be a good choice, but do we really desire those features? But barring that... I'd really like to see the upgrade to MoinMoin happen because the wiki is becoming a huge benefit for collaboration on the Velocity and Velocity Tools projects. I realize Apache is a volunteer org and we all know this is stuff we all do in our not so copious free time -- but I'd really like to know how/where/who admins the MoinMoin install and offer to help in any way I can. Infrastructure :) Least I assume it is. While apsite people might be able to create/maintain, I'd think that Infra would be in charge of upgrades to the software. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: PMC contact for Wiki Admin
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:35:59 -0800, Tim Colson (tcolson) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Most Reverent and Kind Jakarta Gentlefolk :-) I have a suggestion/request and it seems this might (or might not) be the place to suggest/request it. :-) As per below... I'd like to request the MoinMoin wiki be upgraded to 1.3.x. You'd need to take this up with the infrastructure team ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). There has been some discussion of upgrading MoinMoin, and the most likely target at this point seems to be 1.2.4. IIRC, there was some resistance to go to 1.3.x, I think because there were bigger implications. But infrastructure@ is the place to get the real scoop. -- Martin Cooper Personally I'd love to see Confluence replace the Python Moin Moin, since Confluence is written in Java, shows off Jakarta through the use of many Jakarta packages, and shows support open source projects by being FREE for them. But barring that... I'd really like to see the upgrade to MoinMoin happen because the wiki is becoming a huge benefit for collaboration on the Velocity and Velocity Tools projects. I realize Apache is a volunteer org and we all know this is stuff we all do in our not so copious free time -- but I'd really like to know how/where/who admins the MoinMoin install and offer to help in any way I can. Cheers, Tim Colson, Geek P.S. If you suggest something it is a suggestion, but if you request something, why isn't it a requestion? grin -Original Message- From: Will Glass-Husain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:43 AM To: Velocity Developers List Subject: Re: PMC contact for Wiki Admin Velocity doesn't have a PMC since it's not a top level project. Our PMC is the Jakarta PMC. Many of the committers (but not me) are members of the PMC. I can't seem to find the address for the pmc mailing list. You might use general@jakarta.apache.org as a substitute (although it's a public list). That might be a good place to advocate for this anyway. WILL - Original Message - From: Tim Colson (tcolson) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Velocity Developers List velocity-dev@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:28 AM Subject: PMC contact for Wiki Admin So I'm not in the Know on this one... i.e. WHO is the admin for the MoinMoin stuff? I searched to try and figure it out, also tried to figur out how to make requests for MoinMoin other than create a new site... Seems the only way will be to send an email to the infrastructure alias at apache ...and cc the PMC (who IS that for Velocity these days? Will?) http://wiki.apache.org/general/HowToMakeWikiAdminRequests What I want to request: upgrade MoinMoin to 1.3.x ...while not as spiffy as Confluence, at least it's a HELLUVALOT better than the current version 1.1.x. Lots of detailed observations on what's improved here: http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DISC/Comparison+Matrix Cheers, Timo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FW: PMC contact for Wiki Admin
On the Java point, there're a lot of python coders at Apache too, I understand... but does jakarta produce any python modules? grin while it's tempting to want our webserver to be Tomcat, I won't go there. ;-) pragmatism that we shouldn't overdo things :) Agreed. That said, there are reasons to prefer Confluence. Generating the website/documentation in the way that Codehaus does would be one such reason. If its wealth of features are desired, Confluence would be a good choice, but do we really desire those features? There are more advantages that I personally prefer -- but it's not up to me. (http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DISC/Comparison+Matrix) It is funny after all these years that the Apache meritocracy has only evolved to sending +1 votes via email. grin (Pollmonkey.com anyone? ;-) Infrastructure :) Okay, I'll forward the request along to that alias. Thanks, Tim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
