RE: Who Do I Contact to add a new Jakarta project

2002-03-04 Thread Randy Layman


See http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html for information
about adding a project to Jakarta.  Projects aren't allowed in without at
least some form of established community around the project that will
continue to support it once you lose interest.  A good place to build this
type of community would be over at SourceForge (www.sourceforge.net).

Randy

 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Mortson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:58 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Who Do I Contact to add a new Jakarta project
 
 
 My name is Doug Mortson, an independent consultant with 15
 years of industry experience. I have developed a software package
 called Synergy (described below) that I think would be 
 a good edition to the Jakarta project.
 
 I am not looking for any compensation. I'm simply looking for a
 way to get the software out into the world.
 
 I would appreciate it if somebody could contact me as to what the 
 appropriate steps would be, the appropriate contact info etc.
 
 Thanks.
 
 -
 
 Synergy is a free, 3-tier Java application that allows
 development team members to collaborate with each other 
 during the development
 of a project.
 
 It includes the following:
 
   The ability to create, view, update and report on defects.
   The ability to create, view, update and run defect queries.
   The ability to create, view and update reports for search 
 and queries
   The ability to create, view and update discussion forums
 
 Synergy can be accessed via an Internet Explorer browser, and
 requires an application server like IBM Websphere, BEA 
 Weblogic or Tomcat.
 It also requires a database like DB2, with a JDBC compliant driver.
 
 The product can be downloaded from the following location :
 http://www.canadaaudiovideo.com/velotrex/Products.html
 
 
 Doug Mortson
 President
 VeloTrex
 452 Britannia Ave,
 Bradford, Ontario
 L3Z 1A7
 905-775-0390
 
 
 
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Re: Who Do I Contact to add a new Jakarta project

2002-03-04 Thread Stefan Bodewig

Hi Doug,

you are contacting the right people with this list.  For the process,
please see http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html.

Could you tell us a little bit about the projects current community?
How many users/developers are using/working on Synergy?

I couldn't find any information on a project mailing list or similar
at the link you have provided - or the USERS Guide.

Stefan

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evaluation of Synergy was Re: Who Do I Contact to add a new Jakarta project

2002-03-04 Thread acoliver

quickhanded evaluation:

0. Method: merely unzipped and read through the code and the provided
information.  Coined the phrase quickhanded because I like making up my
own words if one doesn't come to mind.  (but it describes this does it not)

1. I'm underwhelmed with the prospect of collaborative tools that require
Internet Explorer.

2. Project makes heavy use of javascript... This is bad.

3. Project is implemented using JSP.  JSP is yucky, but this does use
Taglibs so that is good.

4. Sourcecode for said taglibs is not included in this distribution, nor is
any kind of build etc etc.

5. The is fairly decently documented.  I like that.

6. The documentation is in MS Word format...  I hate that.  (at least until
POI::HDF is done along with the Cocoon generator and then I can just read it
in mozilla as XHTML or PDF or something ;-) ).

7. I hate the orange and black theme...yuck.  Halloween is over.

8. This is basically bugzilla or Scarab (which I have not evaluated but I'm
sure is very nice) with things called forums which underwhelm me. (use
mail lists instead) The prospect of having to install oracle or DB2 or even
SQL-sorry-Server to store my bugs underwhelms me.  Only DB2 has been tested
(bah) and no bullet is there for PostgreSQL.  This really underwhelms me. 
5-10k minimum is a lot to spend for the kind of volume of data one gets from
a bug database.

9. One thing this could use that might make it worth looking at (if it
weren't implemented in sorry ol JSPs as opposed to XML or something that
would let me change the yucky halloween theme), would be something like the
Task Manager and Tracking fascilities from SourceForge.  I like that.  It
wouldn't work for every project but it worked quite nicely for POI before we
got to where little details took all of any given person's time.  It would
be better if tasks could be assigned to a person post-facto but *shrugs*.  

10. I find it doubtful this will attract much of a community.  This person
would be far better of contributing to Bugzilla or Scarab or some existing
project.  This project doesn't appear to revolutionize bug tracking, etc and
therefore Yet Another BugTracker implemented in yucky old JSPs is not
likely to make people jump out of their chairs and want to help. 
(espeically without the sourcecode!).  

11. In my humble and reserved opinion prospects are unlikely that this will
appear on Jakarta at any point in the near future.  (Not that I'm anybody to
say, just figured I'd step up and give an evalutation)

-Andy

On 04 Mar 2002 16:10:39  0100 Stefan Bodewig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote.
Hi Doug,

you are contacting the right people with this list.  For the process,
please see http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html.

Could you tell us a little bit about the projects current community?
How many users/developers are using/working on Synergy?

I couldn't find any information on a project mailing list or similar
at the link you have provided - or the USERS Guide.

Stefan

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Re: Who Do I Contact to add a new Jakarta project

2002-03-04 Thread alex

At 14:58 04/03/02, Doug Mortson wrote:
My name is Doug Mortson, an independent consultant with 15
years of industry experience. I have developed a software package
called Synergy (described below) that I think would be
a good edition to the Jakarta project.


Hello Doug,

If you wish to make your product an open source project then no one is 
stopping you.
Go for it. I would suggest uploading it to www.sourceforge.net and then 
doing some publicity
for it - eg by getting a mention on freshmeat.net.

You can even choose an Apache-like license on sourceforge

Your tool definitely sounds interesting - I'll happily try it out and give 
it a review plugon my open source news website 
http://www.OWAL.co.uk/news//plug

You should investigate your competitors (such as Scarab or Bugzilla) and 
ask yourself why people should use your software instead of theirs - and 
write this up.

Apache is not like other open source projects - they don't just accept any 
open source project that is offered to them. The main thing they want to 
see before adopting another project is whether or not there is an 
existing team of developers maintaining it. I would suggest that you should 
concentrate on getting that team of developers and publicising your 
software, and then come back to Apache in six months or so.

(I am not speaking for Apache and hold no official position in the Apache 
Software Foundation).

Alex


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