Re: java@apache

2003-12-26 Thread Santiago Gala
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El viernes, 26 dici, 2003, a las 01:32 Europe/Madrid, Henri Yandell 
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2003, J.Pietschmann wrote:

Noel J. Bergman wrote:
This could be interesting, Henri.  If we had an formal description 
of a
project, providing its name, resource (www, scm, wiki, etc.) 
locations,
ontological classifications, etc., I imagine that could be useful in
producing a portal.
Sounds awfully close to a Maven project.xml.
This is what I've spent some moments today playing with. Building a
portal.xml and a set of ontology xml's around maven project.xmls. Then 
a
series of xsl things to make a static site.

Having different "views" of the projects and project components looks 
an interesting idea (not just for java).

This stroke me of Noel's proposal of keeping jakarta as a "meta" 
project, instead of an "umbrella" project.

I.E., having jakarta as a coordinating and marketing place, where 
different java project would crosspollinate and coordinate together, 
but free of oversight concerns, which would be addressed separately by 
each project.

While I'm not sure something like this would work, neither how would it 
work, I think exploring the possibility is worthwhile.

Regards,
 Santiago

Hen

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Re: java@apache

2003-12-25 Thread Henri Yandell


On Thu, 25 Dec 2003, J.Pietschmann wrote:

> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > This could be interesting, Henri.  If we had an formal description of a
> > project, providing its name, resource (www, scm, wiki, etc.) locations,
> > ontological classifications, etc., I imagine that could be useful in
> > producing a portal.
>
> Sounds awfully close to a Maven project.xml.

This is what I've spent some moments today playing with. Building a
portal.xml and a set of ontology xml's around maven project.xmls. Then a
series of xsl things to make a static site.

Hen


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Re: java@apache

2003-12-25 Thread J.Pietschmann
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
This could be interesting, Henri.  If we had an formal description of a
project, providing its name, resource (www, scm, wiki, etc.) locations,
ontological classifications, etc., I imagine that could be useful in
producing a portal.
Sounds awfully close to a Maven project.xml.
We would want some nice means for aggregating and dynamically managing the
data, but fortunately we have a ready standard for dealing with the content:
LDAP.

The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from.

There are also RDF/RSS/DC and a variety of other XML based metadata
languages (Topic Maps would fit almost as well as LDAP).
J.Pietschmann

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RE: java@apache

2003-12-24 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Robert Leland wrote:
> Henri Yandell wrote:
> > http://www.apache.org/~bayard/japache/ is a list of all
> > Java projects at Apache that I found.
> > Am just pondering ways in which to display all of them on
> > one site, and thought I'd share.

> This is good. Since there is no single right way to display
> [perhaps] you could offer to let users chnage the grouping

Or perhaps the data could be put into a well-defined format, and let
projects repurpose the data as they desire.

This could be interesting, Henri.  If we had an formal description of a
project, providing its name, resource (www, scm, wiki, etc.) locations,
ontological classifications, etc., I imagine that could be useful in
producing a portal.

We would want some nice means for aggregating and dynamically managing the
data, but fortunately we have a ready standard for dealing with the content:
LDAP.

Could be a seriously cool little project.

--- Noel


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Re: java@apache

2003-12-24 Thread Robert Leland
Henri Yandell wrote:

(I need to get a real sleep schedule)

http://www.apache.org/~bayard/japache/ is a list of all Java projects at
Apache that I found.
Am just pondering ways in which to display all of them on one site, and
thought I'd share.
 

This is good. Since there is no single right way to display the wed page you
could offer to let users chnage the grouping by using a tab/ or maybe a 
menu to the left side like,
the XML projects do.

Hen

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