Re: Struts and Tomcat 4.0
Cool! I'm impressed! I'll have to check that out. On Tue, 2002-10-08 at 20:12, Daniel Rall wrote: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Even if it ties me to an Apache-proprietary template language, trading that for something less disgusting than JSP seems preferable. Note that Velocity actually implements a documented specification which any vender can pick up create their own implementation of. -- Daniel Rall [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in Java http://krysalis.sourceforge.net/centipede - the best build/project structure a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex Projects! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Struts and Tomcat 4.0
I believe they also tried to make a JSR out of it, but got shot down somewhere in the middle... :-( Pier On 9/10/02 13:38, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool! I'm impressed! I'll have to check that out. On Tue, 2002-10-08 at 20:12, Daniel Rall wrote: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Even if it ties me to an Apache-proprietary template language, trading that for something less disgusting than JSP seems preferable. Note that Velocity actually implements a documented specification which any vender can pick up create their own implementation of. -- Daniel Rall [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Struts and Tomcat 4.0
What do you expect from idiots who think naming api's JAX[letter] is a good idea? (JAXM/JAXP/JAXB/JAXC/etc... I'm sorry but that is just really really stupid sick and befuddled! BAD BAD BADAnd this is coming from me! The sick abbreviation kingpin himself!) -Andy On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 19:20, Pier Fumagalli wrote: I believe they also tried to make a JSR out of it, but got shot down somewhere in the middle... :-( Pier On 9/10/02 13:38, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool! I'm impressed! I'll have to check that out. On Tue, 2002-10-08 at 20:12, Daniel Rall wrote: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Even if it ties me to an Apache-proprietary template language, trading that for something less disgusting than JSP seems preferable. Note that Velocity actually implements a documented specification which any vender can pick up create their own implementation of. -- Daniel Rall [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in Java http://krysalis.sourceforge.net/centipede - the best build/project structure a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex Projects! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Struts and Tomcat 4.0
on 2002/10/9 4:20 PM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe they also tried to make a JSR out of it, but got shot down somewhere in the middle... :-( Pier Geir and I approached the JCP about creating a JSR for a Java Template Language (see enclosed) and even had a number assigned to track it (I forget which number now). However, after battling some ASF people (ahem Craig) who didn't want to see the ASF support such a useful thing (Craig is afraid that Velocity might actually beat the shit out of his companies JSP) as well as discussions with clueless JCP EC members who couldn't tell the difference between Velocity and JSP (Hello! Ever tried to use JSP outside of a web request??); Geir and I decided to remove our proposal. On top of it, this was right when the ASF was in the heated battle with the JCP to get what we wanted in terms of licensing so the timing was off anyway. In the end, I think the JCP is a miserable failure anyway. Sun's stock isn't worth anything http://chart.yahoo.com/c/0b/s/sunw.gif and the JCP is still weighed down with a minimal support staff and a load of bullshit politics which only make the lawyers rich. Imho, Velocity is as much of a standard as JSP is and doesn't need the JCP to 'approve' it. http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ymtd/ymtd-implementation.html -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco http://studioz.tv/ !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN HTML HEAD TITLEJava Template Language/TITLE /HEAD BODY BGCOLOR=#FF TEXT=#00 P FONT SIZE=+2General Instructions/FONT P This template has been designed to be easily filled out using an HTML editor. Please complete all sections. Don't forget to give the proposed specification a name. P E-mail the completed JSR to: A HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A. Don't forget to include the name of the JSR in the subject line. PAs stated in A HREF=jcp2.html#1Section 1/A of the Java Community Process, JSRs will only be accepted from Members. BRBR HR A NAME=1/A PFONT size=+2Title:br/b(Insert JSR name here)/FONT/P PJava Template Language/P Pfont size=+2Summary:/fontbr(Please provide a description of the JSR in 30 words or less)/P P This JSR defines a template language, the functionality of the template processing engine, and supporting APIs designed for formatting and processing textual and other information from Java. /P PFONT size=+2Section 1. Identification/FONT PbSubmitting Member:/b Apache Software Foundation/P PbName of Contact Person:/b Geir Magnusson Jr. and Jon S. Stevens/P PbE-Mail Address:/b [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]/P PbTelephone Number:/b 203-834-0898 and 510-843-3122/P PbFax Number:/b none/P BR PbSpecification Lead:/b Geir Magnusson Jr. and Jon S. Stevens/P PbE-Mail Address:/b [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]/P PbTelephone Number:/b 203-834-0898 and 510-843-3122/P PbFax Number:/b none/P BR PBInitial Expert Group Membership:/B br(Please provide company or organization names. Note that expert group members must have A HREF=./getstarted.htmlsigned the JSPA/A.)/P PApache Software Foundation/P BRBR A NAME=2/A P FONT SIZE=+2Section 2: Request/FONTP /P H42.1 Please describe the proposed Specification:/H4 P We intend to propose a standard Java Template Language which is based upon the Apache Jakarta Velocity project as the reference implementation. Here is a description of Velocity: /P P Velocity is a Java-based template engine. It permits anyone to use the simple yet powerful template language to reference objects defined in Java code. It also defines a minimal set of directives that control basic logic, variables and basic looping constructs. /P P When Velocity is used for web development, Web designers can work in parallel with Java programmers to develop web sites according to the Model-View-Controller (MVC) model, meaning that web page designers can focus solely on creating a site that looks good, and programmers can focus solely on writing top-notch code. /P P Velocity has been successfully used to solve many problems in textual processing and data output in Java. These solutions include source code (Java, C, etc) and SQL code generation, XML document transformation in conjunction with and in place of XSLT, and web page generation in the Java servlet environment. Velocity is also included in GentleWare's Poseidon for UML Community Edition as the template tool for dynamic generation of Java code from UML. /P P For more information on Velocity, please visit the a href=http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/;website/a which contains full documentation and download the release. /P H42.2 What is the target Java platform? (i.e., desktop, server, personal, embedded, card, etc.)/H4 PDesktop, Server, Personal/P H42.3 What need
Struts and Tomcat 4.0
Hello , we have developed a web site in which we have implemented struts for designing the page , this works fine on Apache and jsp engine from oracle (9ias) but we now have to move the web site to apache and tomcat environment. the jsp pages are compiling fine on this env. but only the header part of the jsp is displayed. The operating system is sun . the struts.jar are present tomcat lib directories. tlds are present in WEB-INF directory and web.xml is also present. does anyone knows why this is happining thanking you -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Struts and Tomcat 4.0
on 2002/10/8 9:39 AM, amar bhatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello , we have developed a web site in which we have implemented struts for designing the page , this works fine on Apache and jsp engine from oracle (9ias) but we now have to move the web site to apache and tomcat environment. the jsp pages are compiling fine on this env. but only the header part of the jsp is displayed. The operating system is sun . the struts.jar are present tomcat lib directories. tlds are present in WEB-INF directory and web.xml is also present. does anyone knows why this is happining thanking you If only you had used Velocity (which is also FAR more portable than JSP as you don't have to work around bugs or design decisions in each individual container)...only one implementation of Velocity will ever be needed... =) -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco http://studioz.tv/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Struts and Tomcat 4.0
I think my next hack'd app will be in Velocity rather than JSP. As I learn more about it I think I find it less disgusting than JSP. (Although I still don't like it for the previously mentioned reasons) Even if it ties me to an Apache-proprietary template language, trading that for something less disgusting than JSP seems preferable. Still I don't find myself very enthusiastic about it.. . (What sucks less instead of what is good) I still think Cocoon has the most potential of the bunch... It just needs to be refactored...heavily(and me without my chainsaw). Not sure if this will happen...it smells of an app with too many cooks in the kitchen. -Andy On Tue, 2002-10-08 at 15:13, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 2002/10/8 9:39 AM, amar bhatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello , we have developed a web site in which we have implemented struts for designing the page , this works fine on Apache and jsp engine from oracle (9ias) but we now have to move the web site to apache and tomcat environment. the jsp pages are compiling fine on this env. but only the header part of the jsp is displayed. The operating system is sun . the struts.jar are present tomcat lib directories. tlds are present in WEB-INF directory and web.xml is also present. does anyone knows why this is happining thanking you If only you had used Velocity (which is also FAR more portable than JSP as you don't have to work around bugs or design decisions in each individual container)...only one implementation of Velocity will ever be needed... =) -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco http://studioz.tv/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in Java http://krysalis.sourceforge.net/centipede - the best build/project structure a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex Projects! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
