Re: [ewg] Re: [ofa-general] OFED July 2, meeting summary on next OFED plans
Tom Tucker wrote: Perhaps the activity is not where you're used to looking. Both Trond and Neal reviewed the previous patchset and provided feedback that I addressed in the most recent patchset. That said, I'm sure there will be quite a bit more before it's mergeable. Indeed, any other IB related kernel ULP that was submitted upstream was sent to review on the openib (open-fabrics general) AND another mailing list (eg netdev,linux-scsi) AND lkml As was commented here in the past, these ULPs typically involve two disciplines, in this case, NFS and the RDMA stack. You are being expected to ask --both-- communities to review the code before you sending it to everyone (lkml) for another review, and only then merge it. Or. ___ general mailing list general@lists.openfabrics.org http://lists.openfabrics.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/general To unsubscribe, please visit http://openib.org/mailman/listinfo/openib-general
[ofa-general] OFED July 2, meeting summary on next OFED plans
Meeting minutes are available also on OFA Wiki: https://wiki.openfabrics.org/tiki-index.php?page=Teleconf+07-02-2007 Abbreviated minutes / summary * OFED 1.2.1 support release - we plan a support release on beginning of August. * OFED 1.3 - decided that its most important to close the schedule and focus on most important features based on this schedule * Based on discussion in the meeting it seems that the best target for OFED 1.3 is November 07 * Most important features (from representative who participated in the meeting) * Voltaire: ConnectX stable release * IBM - IPOIB CM without SRQ * Qlogic: Package convenient for distros; ConnectX stable * iWARP: Chelsio: Get to GA level and NFSoRDMA integration. NetEffect: Get the drivers into OFED * Mellanox: ConnectX stable release; new package; QoS Action Items: 1. Other EWG members (Cisco, Intel, Labs) - send most important features for 1.3 2. Tziporet - set a meeting with Redhat Novell to close the new package definition 3. Tziporet - publish OFED 1.3 schedule 4. MPI people (DK, Jeff, Labs) - update your plans for OFED 1.3 - is there any specific requests toward SC07 Detailed Minutes * OFED 1.2.1 release: * Companies that are mostly interested in such release (e.g. IBM, Chelsio) will do most of testing for their HW. * Not all companies are committed to QA this release, so in the release notes we will mention this limitation. * There are weekly builds of OFED 1.2 branch. Any other build should be requested from Vlad. * OFED 1.2.c: * All agree its important to have this code stream, and why it cannot be the same as 1.2, and that we cannot wait for 1.3. * There are companies that are currently using this code stream and this will prevent them to participate in QA of 1.2.1 * OFED 1.3: * There was a discussion if we wish to have the release on November 07 or January 08 (all agreed that December is not a good month) * Decision was to reduce features and have a release this year = November * There were no participants from the labs or MPI thus we lack information on important features that should be ready for SC07 Tziporet Koren Software Director Mellanox Technologies mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel +972-4-9097200, ext 380 ___ general mailing list general@lists.openfabrics.org http://lists.openfabrics.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/general To unsubscribe, please visit http://openib.org/mailman/listinfo/openib-general
Re: [ofa-general] OFED July 2, meeting summary on next OFED plans
Tziporet Koren wrote: Meeting minutes are available also on OFA Wiki: _https://wiki.openfabrics.org/tiki-index.php?page=Teleconf+07-02-2007_ *Abbreviated minutes / summary* * OFED 1.2.1 support release - we plan a support release on beginning of August. * OFED 1.3 - decided that its most important to close the schedule and focus on most important features based on this schedule o Based on discussion in the meeting it seems that the best target for OFED 1.3 is November 07 * Most important features (from representative who participated in the meeting) o Voltaire: ConnectX stable release o IBM - IPOIB CM without SRQ o Qlogic: Package convenient for distros; ConnectX stable o iWARP: Chelsio: Get to GA level and NFSoRDMA integration. NetEffect: Get the drivers into OFED o Mellanox: ConnectX stable release; new package; QoS Intel: uDAPL 2.0 with IB extensions, installation/packaging, rdma_cm counters, performance manager ___ general mailing list general@lists.openfabrics.org http://lists.openfabrics.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/general To unsubscribe, please visit http://openib.org/mailman/listinfo/openib-general
Re: [ofa-general] OFED July 2, meeting summary on next OFED plans
On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 13:29, Bob Kossey wrote: Tziporet Koren wrote: / // * Most important features (from representative who participated in // the meeting) // o Voltaire: ConnectX stable release // o IBM - IPOIB CM without SRQ // o Qlogic: Package convenient for distros; ConnectX stable // o iWARP: Chelsio: Get to GA level and NFSoRDMA integration. // NetEffect: Get the drivers into OFED // o Mellanox: ConnectX stable release; new package; QoS / HP: Full ConnectX support, installation/packaging changes, Perfmon independent of OpenSM. What do you mean by Perfmon independent of OpenSM ? -- Hal Bob ___ general mailing list general@lists.openfabrics.org http://lists.openfabrics.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/general To unsubscribe, please visit http://openib.org/mailman/listinfo/openib-general ___ general mailing list general@lists.openfabrics.org http://lists.openfabrics.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/general To unsubscribe, please visit http://openib.org/mailman/listinfo/openib-general
Re: [ofa-general] OFED July 2, meeting summary on next OFED plans
Hal Rosenstock wrote: HP: Full ConnectX support, installation/packaging changes, Perfmon independent of OpenSM. What do you mean by Perfmon independent of OpenSM ? -- Hal I interpreted from the exchange below that there is a dependency between PerfMgr and OpenSM. If that is not accurate, or if it will be eliminated, great. On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 03:24, Eitan Zahavi wrote: / On Wed, 2007-06-27 at 14:23, Eitan Zahavi wrote: // In the last months it is the second time I hear people // complaining the // current monitoring solution in OFA is integrated with OpenSM. // // I must have missed this both times (didn't see this in Mark's // post) and the statement itself is somewhat inaccurate as well. / / Private talks - I hope they will speak up for themselves now... / Please encourage them to do so. / These people do not use OpenSM but do use OFED. // // I'm not sure I'm following what you mean here. // // If you mean that some people want to run PerfMgr without the // SM/SA aspects (so that they can run a vendor based SM), that // is the next thing we are adding to the implementation. // Exactly. OK when is that coming? / Should be part of OFED 1.3. ___ general mailing list general@lists.openfabrics.org http://lists.openfabrics.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/general To unsubscribe, please visit http://openib.org/mailman/listinfo/openib-general
Re: [ofa-general] OFED July 2, meeting summary on next OFED plans
The proposed feature list for OFED 1.3 sent out on 6/26/2007 included the Asynch I/O for SDP, is this feature now being drop for the 1.3 release? Oracle has spent considerable effort to support SDP in our products and Oracle proposes that Asynch I/O for SDP be included in the OFED 1.3. What is required to include this feature for OFED 1.3? Regards, Norman Tziporet Koren wrote: Meeting minutes are available also on OFA Wiki: _https://wiki.openfabrics.org/tiki-index.php?page=Teleconf+07-02-2007_ *Abbreviated minutes / summary* * OFED 1.2.1 support release - we plan a support release on beginning of August. * OFED 1.3 - decided that its most important to close the schedule and focus on most important features based on this schedule o Based on discussion in the meeting it seems that the best target for OFED 1.3 is November 07 * Most important features (from representative who participated in the meeting) o Voltaire: ConnectX stable release o IBM - IPOIB CM without SRQ o Qlogic: Package convenient for distros; ConnectX stable o iWARP: Chelsio: Get to GA level and NFSoRDMA integration. NetEffect: Get the drivers into OFED o Mellanox: ConnectX stable release; new package; QoS *Action Items:* 1. Other EWG members (Cisco, Intel, Labs) - send most important features for 1.3 2. Tziporet - set a meeting with Redhat Novell to close the new package definition 3. Tziporet - publish OFED 1.3 schedule 4. MPI people (DK, Jeff, Labs) - update your plans for OFED 1.3 - is there any specific requests toward SC07 *Detailed Minutes* * OFED 1.2.1 release: o Companies that are mostly interested in such release (e.g. IBM, Chelsio) will do most of testing for their HW. o Not all companies are committed to QA this release, so in the release notes we will mention this limitation. o There are weekly builds of OFED 1.2 branch. Any other build should be requested from Vlad. * OFED 1.2.c: o All agree its important to have this code stream, and why it cannot be the same as 1.2, and that we cannot wait for 1.3. o There are companies that are currently using this code stream and this will prevent them to participate in QA of 1.2.1 * OFED 1.3: o There was a discussion if we wish to have the release on November 07 or January 08 (all agreed that December is not a good month) o Decision was to reduce features and have a release this year = November o There were no participants from the labs or MPI thus we lack information on important features that should be ready for SC07 Tziporet Koren Software Director Mellanox Technologies mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel +972-4-9097200, ext 380 ___ general mailing list general@lists.openfabrics.org http://lists.openfabrics.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/general To unsubscribe, please visit http://openib.org/mailman/listinfo/openib-general ___ general mailing list general@lists.openfabrics.org http://lists.openfabrics.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/general To unsubscribe, please visit http://openib.org/mailman/listinfo/openib-general
Re: [ofa-general] OFED July 2, meeting summary on next OFED plans
On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 13:53, Bob Kossey wrote: Hal Rosenstock wrote: HP: Full ConnectX support, installation/packaging changes, Perfmon independent of OpenSM. What do you mean by Perfmon independent of OpenSM ? -- Hal I interpreted from the exchange below that there is a dependency between PerfMgr and OpenSM. If that is not accurate, or if it will be eliminated, great. PerfMgr will support the ability to run without the SM/SA function in OpenSM but with a third party SM (meaning any standard (vendor) SM which is IBA compliant although this will need testing to confirm that aspect by those vendors/parties interested in this). PerfMgr will, however, be part of the OpenSM package. I hope this clarifies the current intent. -- Hal On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 03:24, Eitan Zahavi wrote: / On Wed, 2007-06-27 at 14:23, Eitan Zahavi wrote: // In the last months it is the second time I hear people // complaining the // current monitoring solution in OFA is integrated with OpenSM. // // I must have missed this both times (didn't see this in Mark's // post) and the statement itself is somewhat inaccurate as well. / / Private talks - I hope they will speak up for themselves now... / Please encourage them to do so. / These people do not use OpenSM but do use OFED. // // I'm not sure I'm following what you mean here. // // If you mean that some people want to run PerfMgr without the // SM/SA aspects (so that they can run a vendor based SM), that // is the next thing we are adding to the implementation. // Exactly. OK when is that coming? / Should be part of OFED 1.3. ___ general mailing list general@lists.openfabrics.org http://lists.openfabrics.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/general To unsubscribe, please visit http://openib.org/mailman/listinfo/openib-general
Re: [ofa-general] OFED July 2, meeting summary on next OFED plans
NFSoRDMA integration. I would like to see a status report on NFS/RDMA from the people who want it in OFED. As I understand it there are many core kernel changes required for this -- switchable transports and also mount option changes? As far as I can tell from the outside, the NFS/RDMA effort seems to have stalled -- whenever I talk to core NFS developers like Chuck Lever or Trond Myklebust, they say that they are just waiting for the NFS/RDMA developers to submit their changes for review. And I haven't seen any patches for a kernel newer that 2.6.18, so things look quite out-of-date. Without visible progress towards getting NFS/RDMA into mergeable form soon, I think putting it into OFED 1.3 as anything other than a technology preview that may be dropped from future releases would be a very risky think to do. Otherwise OFED risks getting stuck maintaining the whole NFS/RDMA stack, since the development effort outside of OFED really looks to me like it is fizzling out. - R. ___ general mailing list general@lists.openfabrics.org http://lists.openfabrics.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/general To unsubscribe, please visit http://openib.org/mailman/listinfo/openib-general
Re: [ofa-general] OFED July 2, meeting summary on next OFED plans
Tom, can you update us on NFS-RDMA? Roland Dreier wrote: NFSoRDMA integration. I would like to see a status report on NFS/RDMA from the people who want it in OFED. As I understand it there are many core kernel changes required for this -- switchable transports and also mount option changes? As far as I can tell from the outside, the NFS/RDMA effort seems to have stalled -- whenever I talk to core NFS developers like Chuck Lever or Trond Myklebust, they say that they are just waiting for the NFS/RDMA developers to submit their changes for review. And I haven't seen any patches for a kernel newer that 2.6.18, so things look quite out-of-date. Without visible progress towards getting NFS/RDMA into mergeable form soon, I think putting it into OFED 1.3 as anything other than a technology preview that may be dropped from future releases would be a very risky think to do. Otherwise OFED risks getting stuck maintaining the whole NFS/RDMA stack, since the development effort outside of OFED really looks to me like it is fizzling out. - R. ___ general mailing list general@lists.openfabrics.org http://lists.openfabrics.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/general To unsubscribe, please visit http://openib.org/mailman/listinfo/openib-general ___ general mailing list general@lists.openfabrics.org http://lists.openfabrics.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/general To unsubscribe, please visit http://openib.org/mailman/listinfo/openib-general
Re: [ofa-general] OFED July 2, meeting summary on next OFED plans
Roland: On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 15:35 -0500, Steve Wise wrote: Tom, can you update us on NFS-RDMA? Roland Dreier wrote: NFSoRDMA integration. I would like to see a status report on NFS/RDMA from the people who want it in OFED. As I understand it there are many core kernel changes required for this -- switchable transports and also mount option changes? You are correct about the scope of the changes, although many of them are already in the kernel. Chuck Lever just posted the mount changes and I have posted a second round of the NFS-RDMA patches. You can see these on [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would like to get them upstream in 2.6.23, but that's probably optimistic. As far as I can tell from the outside, the NFS/RDMA effort seems to have stalled -- whenever I talk to core NFS developers like Chuck Lever or Trond Myklebust, they say that they are just waiting for the NFS/RDMA developers to submit their changes for review. And I haven't seen any patches for a kernel newer that 2.6.18, so things look quite out-of-date. I'm not sure when you talked to those guys, but as I mentioned, this is round-two of the patch submission. There is also a git tree that has these submitted patches available for download and testing. These are on a 2.6.22-rc6 base and the git URL is git://linux-nfs.org/~tomtucker/nfs-rdma-dev-2.6.git If you like, I can post the patchset here as well. Without visible progress towards getting NFS/RDMA into mergeable form soon, I think putting it into OFED 1.3 as anything other than a technology preview that may be dropped from future releases would be a very risky think to do. Otherwise OFED risks getting stuck maintaining the whole NFS/RDMA stack, since the development effort outside of OFED really looks to me like it is fizzling out. Perhaps the activity is not where you're used to looking. Both Trond and Neal reviewed the previous patchset and provided feedback that I addressed in the most recent patchset. That said, I'm sure there will be quite a bit more before it's mergeable. - R. ___ general mailing list general@lists.openfabrics.org http://lists.openfabrics.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/general To unsubscribe, please visit http://openib.org/mailman/listinfo/openib-general ___ general mailing list general@lists.openfabrics.org http://lists.openfabrics.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/general To unsubscribe, please visit http://openib.org/mailman/listinfo/openib-general
