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[Martin Stein]

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Datum:  Tue, 7 Feb 2017 09:48:44 -0500
Von:Jeroen "Slim" van Gelderen 
An: martin.st...@genode-labs.com



The redundant information clutters up small screens and makes subject
lines difficult to read on mobile. I'm not sure what the problem is with
filtering messages for these folks.

On 7 Feb 2017 07:52, "Martin Stein" > wrote:

I personally let my mail client filter my mails by the destination
address into separate folders. This works fine for me. But if an
additional prefix is desired, why not.

Cheers,
Martin

Am 07.02.2017 um 12:20 schrieb Parfait Tokponnon:
> Hello,
> Personally, I think this is very useful,
> I receive mails from various mailing lists and this is the best way I
> can distinguish at a glance the origin of the mail.
> cheers
>
> 2017-02-07 11:08 GMT+01:00 Christian Helmuth
> 
> >>:
>
> Hello Martín,
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 07:57:33AM -0500, Martin Iturbide wrote:
> > I was wondering if it can be useful to configure the mailing
list to
> > include on the subject (before the text) something like
[Genode] or
> > [Genode-Main] . I know that it is easy to set a rule and
folder for the
> > mailing list messages on the mail client, but in some other
cases I like to
> > identify visually and fast the messages that are from this
mailing list in
> > a group of mails.
> >
> > This is just a thought, I don't know how hard or easy will
be to configure
> > this on the sourceforge mailing lists.
>
> Technically this is pretty simple by means of the Mailman
> subject_prefix feature. I personally do not like all subject lines
> written by users of the list cluttered with some prefix text.
But, if
> other members of the list also express their demand for this
feature
> and there's no overly resistance voiced I would enable it
> nevertheless.
>
> Greets
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Re: [Genode] Suggestion about mailing list subject

[Martin Stein]

I personally let my mail client filter my mails by the destination
address into separate folders. This works fine for me. But if an
additional prefix is desired, why not.

Cheers,
Martin

Am 07.02.2017 um 12:20 schrieb Parfait Tokponnon:
> Hello,
> Personally, I think this is very useful,
> I receive mails from various mailing lists and this is the best way I
> can distinguish at a glance the origin of the mail.
> cheers
> 
> 2017-02-07 11:08 GMT+01:00 Christian Helmuth
>  >:
> 
> Hello Martín,
> 
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 07:57:33AM -0500, Martin Iturbide wrote:
> > I was wondering if it can be useful to configure the mailing list to
> > include on the subject (before the text) something like [Genode] or
> > [Genode-Main] . I know that it is easy to set a rule and folder for the
> > mailing list messages on the mail client, but in some other cases I 
> like to
> > identify visually and fast the messages that are from this mailing list 
> in
> > a group of mails.
> >
> > This is just a thought, I don't know how hard or easy will be to 
> configure
> > this on the sourceforge mailing lists.
> 
> Technically this is pretty simple by means of the Mailman
> subject_prefix feature. I personally do not like all subject lines
> written by users of the list cluttered with some prefix text. But, if
> other members of the list also express their demand for this feature
> and there's no overly resistance voiced I would enable it
> nevertheless.
> 
> Greets
> --
> Christian Helmuth
> Genode Labs
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Re: Deprecated warnings

[Martin Stein]

Hi Boris,

Am 07.02.2017 um 09:15 schrieb Boris Mulder:
> This fixes most of the warnings, but some still persist (from -Wcpp).
> 
> On 06-02-17 18:49, Martin Stein wrote:
>>
>> You have to add the line 'CC_OPT += -Wno-deprecated-declarations' to
>> your '/etc/tools.conf'. You probably have to create this file
>> first.

Of course you can add further 'c++' options like '-Wno-cpp' to the
'CC_OPT' variable your 'tools.conf' file ;)

Cheers,
Martin

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Thoughts about FOSDEM 2017

[Norman Feske]

Hello,

hereby I'd like to share my impressions from FOSDEM this year.

I looked forward to FOSDEM very much - in particular to the microkernel
devroom - and all I can say is that it was a pleasure to attend. Thanks
to everyone who contributed to it! The following points stood out to me:

* The topics in the devroom were nicely diverse, ranging from kernel
  design, over the use of microkernels in microcontrollers (F9),
  entertaining experience stories (MINIX), to practical walk throughs
  (HURD). Even though the projects are not directly working together
  in term of code developments, the collaborative spirit was clearly
  there. What a nice and friendly gathering!

* I found David Teller's (Redox) take on explaining the benefits of
  microkernels quite refreshing - highlighting practical aspects like
  an easier upgrade path for system components compared to monolithic
  systems. As a side node, it was stunning to see the popularity of the
  Redox project according to crowd watching the talk.

* Martin Decky (HelenOS) briefly presented the idea of forming an
  open-source microkernel umbrella organization, i.e., to increase the
  chance of acceptance to GSoC. Admittedly, we (Genode Labs) haven't
  planned to apply to GSoC (we tried once but were rejected with no
  feedback). However, personally, I'd support the idea of a joint
  application of the larger community. Martin and Jakub proposed to
  use the FOSDEM devroom and thereby the same community that is behind
  microkernel.info as umbrella organization. This sounds sensible to
  me as this community already exists to the mutual benefit of everyone
  involved, and is open for everyone to join. I wonder, do you (the
  people of the Genode community) have an opinion about this idea,
  and GSoC in general?

* I got very excited about the presentation of the WireGuard project,
  which is a new take on virtual private networking for the Linux
  kernel. Not only was the presentation a joy to follow, the project
  seems to be a perfect fit for a distributed Genode system. It
  addresses my main concern about existing open-source solutions like
  OpenVPN and IPSec, namely their daunting complexity. I am not a
  VPN expert though. From those of you who are familiar with both VPN
  solutions and Genode, I'd love to hear your thoughts on WireGuard!

* I found the SAFE network talk very inspiring in that the project
  presents a holistic architectural solution to many problems that
  plague the internet today. Since having watched the talk, I wonder
  if it would make any sense to have the SAFE launcher available on
  Genode?

Again, thanks to all participants of the devroom (especially Josef), and
for the many vivid discussions at FOSDEM. See you next year!

Cheers
Norman

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Re: [Genode] Suggestion about mailing list subject

[Michael Grunditz]

I think that a prefix would be good.

Michael

2017-02-07 11:08 GMT+01:00 Christian Helmuth <
christian.helm...@genode-labs.com>:

> Hello Martín,
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 07:57:33AM -0500, Martin Iturbide wrote:
> > I was wondering if it can be useful to configure the mailing list to
> > include on the subject (before the text) something like [Genode] or
> > [Genode-Main] . I know that it is easy to set a rule and folder for the
> > mailing list messages on the mail client, but in some other cases I like
> to
> > identify visually and fast the messages that are from this mailing list
> in
> > a group of mails.
> >
> > This is just a thought, I don't know how hard or easy will be to
> configure
> > this on the sourceforge mailing lists.
>
> Technically this is pretty simple by means of the Mailman
> subject_prefix feature. I personally do not like all subject lines
> written by users of the list cluttered with some prefix text. But, if
> other members of the list also express their demand for this feature
> and there's no overly resistance voiced I would enable it
> nevertheless.
>
> Greets
> --
> Christian Helmuth
> Genode Labs
>
> https://www.genode-labs.com/ · https://genode.org/
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Re: [Genode] Suggestion about mailing list subject

[Parfait Tokponnon]

Hello,
Personally, I think this is very useful,
I receive mails from various mailing lists and this is the best way I can
distinguish at a glance the origin of the mail.
cheers

2017-02-07 11:08 GMT+01:00 Christian Helmuth <
christian.helm...@genode-labs.com>:

> Hello Martín,
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 07:57:33AM -0500, Martin Iturbide wrote:
> > I was wondering if it can be useful to configure the mailing list to
> > include on the subject (before the text) something like [Genode] or
> > [Genode-Main] . I know that it is easy to set a rule and folder for the
> > mailing list messages on the mail client, but in some other cases I like
> to
> > identify visually and fast the messages that are from this mailing list
> in
> > a group of mails.
> >
> > This is just a thought, I don't know how hard or easy will be to
> configure
> > this on the sourceforge mailing lists.
>
> Technically this is pretty simple by means of the Mailman
> subject_prefix feature. I personally do not like all subject lines
> written by users of the list cluttered with some prefix text. But, if
> other members of the list also express their demand for this feature
> and there's no overly resistance voiced I would enable it
> nevertheless.
>
> Greets
> --
> Christian Helmuth
> Genode Labs
>
> https://www.genode-labs.com/ · https://genode.org/
> https://twitter.com/GenodeLabs · /ˈdʒiː.nəʊd/
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Re: [Genode] Suggestion about mailing list subject

[Christian Helmuth]

Hello Martín,

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 07:57:33AM -0500, Martin Iturbide wrote:
> I was wondering if it can be useful to configure the mailing list to
> include on the subject (before the text) something like [Genode] or
> [Genode-Main] . I know that it is easy to set a rule and folder for the
> mailing list messages on the mail client, but in some other cases I like to
> identify visually and fast the messages that are from this mailing list in
> a group of mails.
> 
> This is just a thought, I don't know how hard or easy will be to configure
> this on the sourceforge mailing lists.

Technically this is pretty simple by means of the Mailman
subject_prefix feature. I personally do not like all subject lines
written by users of the list cluttered with some prefix text. But, if
other members of the list also express their demand for this feature
and there's no overly resistance voiced I would enable it
nevertheless.

Greets
-- 
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Genode Labs

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Re: Deprecated warnings

[Boris Mulder]

This fixes most of the warnings, but some still persist (from -Wcpp).

It is workable now though.


On 06-02-17 18:49, Martin Stein wrote:
> Hi Boris,
>
> You have to add the line 'CC_OPT += -Wno-deprecated-declarations' to
> your '/etc/tools.conf'. You probably have to create this file
> first.
>
> Did that help you?
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
> Am 06.02.2017 um 16:58 schrieb Boris Mulder:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Whenever I compile my source with the latest version of Genode, I am
>> getting hundreds and hundreds of deprecated warnings. I understand you
>> might fix them in the future, but they clog my compiler output and make
>> reading other compiler errors a pain. Is there some easy point in the
>> makefiles where I can change it so that I can disable all of them
>> temporarily? I tried appending it to global.mk:
>>
>> CC_WARN   ?= -Wall -Wno-deprecated
>>
>> but this still gave me the warnings. Where can I disable it?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Boris
>>
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