Re: [gentoo-alt] Preparing for Snow Leopard

2009-09-07 Thread Aaron Wilson
I'm pretty sure Tiger still had a 32-bit kernel, even though it  had  
some 64-bit support. Snow Leopard has both a 32-bit and 64-bit kernel,  
but in almost all macs it boots the 32-bit kernel by default. See here:


http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-336194.html

I'm on IRC as tallest.

Thanks,
Aaron


On Sep 7, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote:


On 07-09-2009 23:14:47 +0900, Tobias Hahn wrote:

SL still uses a 32 bit kernel by default. The 64 bit kernel is
optional on supported hardware (hold down 64 while booting). Only SL
Server on an xserve uses the 64 bit kernel by default iirc. I guess
the reasoning is to give consumer hardware vendors a chance to write
64 bit kexts. On the other hand, most applications from Apple  
(Finder,

Terminal, Safari...) now support 64 bit, but obviously also only if
the hardware supports it (so on a core not-2 duo everything will be  
32

bit as before).


Hmmm, that sounds weird, even my Tiger can do 64-bits stuff (the  
kernel

that is).  That was the whole idea: being able to address much more
memory.  Anyway it obviously requires some scripting.

Either we default to 32-bits Prefix on Snow Leopard too, or we figure
out a way to see if we're running on a 64-bits capable machine so we  
can

enable 64-bits on Snow Leopard where possible.

Thanks for the info!


--
Fabian Groffen
Gentoo on a different level





Re: [gentoo-alt] Preparing for Snow Leopard

2009-09-07 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 07-09-2009 23:14:47 +0900, Tobias Hahn wrote:
> SL still uses a 32 bit kernel by default. The 64 bit kernel is  
> optional on supported hardware (hold down 64 while booting). Only SL  
> Server on an xserve uses the 64 bit kernel by default iirc. I guess  
> the reasoning is to give consumer hardware vendors a chance to write  
> 64 bit kexts. On the other hand, most applications from Apple (Finder,  
> Terminal, Safari...) now support 64 bit, but obviously also only if  
> the hardware supports it (so on a core not-2 duo everything will be 32  
> bit as before).

Hmmm, that sounds weird, even my Tiger can do 64-bits stuff (the kernel
that is).  That was the whole idea: being able to address much more
memory.  Anyway it obviously requires some scripting.

Either we default to 32-bits Prefix on Snow Leopard too, or we figure
out a way to see if we're running on a 64-bits capable machine so we can
enable 64-bits on Snow Leopard where possible.

Thanks for the info!


-- 
Fabian Groffen
Gentoo on a different level



Re: [gentoo-alt] Preparing for Snow Leopard

2009-09-07 Thread Aaron Wilson

I normally am not on IRC, but I can be if it helps.

Aaron


On Sep 5, 2009, at 6:47 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote:


On 03-09-2009 14:51:42 -0600, Aaron Wilson wrote:

Thanks, that's just what I was looking for.

After bootstraping portage, it informed me that

* Your profile is set to /Users/wilson/Library/Gentoo/usr/portage/
profiles/prefix/darwin/macos/10.6/x64.

This is certainly not correct for my computer, a Rev. 1 Macbook Pro
with a Core Duo processor, supporting only 32 bits.

When I looked for a macos/10.6/x86 profile, I found none. Is this a
problem, or should I just use macos/10.6 as my profile?


I didn't know SL did still 32-bits.  We'll have to hack some stuff up
for that.  Are you in IRC by chance?


--
Fabian Groffen
Gentoo on a different level






Re: [gentoo-alt] Preparing for Snow Leopard

2009-09-07 Thread Tobias Hahn
SL still uses a 32 bit kernel by default. The 64 bit kernel is  
optional on supported hardware (hold down 64 while booting). Only SL  
Server on an xserve uses the 64 bit kernel by default iirc. I guess  
the reasoning is to give consumer hardware vendors a chance to write  
64 bit kexts. On the other hand, most applications from Apple (Finder,  
Terminal, Safari...) now support 64 bit, but obviously also only if  
the hardware supports it (so on a core not-2 duo everything will be 32  
bit as before).


Cheers,
Tobias

Am 05.09.2009 um 21:47 schrieb Fabian Groffen:


On 03-09-2009 14:51:42 -0600, Aaron Wilson wrote:

Thanks, that's just what I was looking for.

After bootstraping portage, it informed me that

* Your profile is set to /Users/wilson/Library/Gentoo/usr/portage/
profiles/prefix/darwin/macos/10.6/x64.

This is certainly not correct for my computer, a Rev. 1 Macbook Pro
with a Core Duo processor, supporting only 32 bits.

When I looked for a macos/10.6/x86 profile, I found none. Is this a
problem, or should I just use macos/10.6 as my profile?


I didn't know SL did still 32-bits.  We'll have to hack some stuff up
for that.  Are you in IRC by chance?


--
Fabian Groffen
Gentoo on a different level






[gentoo-alt] portage making terminal mad?

2009-09-07 Thread Markus Duft
somebody else noticed the erase key beeing damaged lately after running
portage? i need a "stty erase ^?" all the time...

quite annoying...

Cheers, Markus