Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-11-12 Thread Beso 
2007/11/12, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Nov 11, 2007 2:52 PM, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 SNIP
 
  the system configs are normal too the only thing that i can advise
 you
  to do is try the mozilla-firefox instead of mozilla-firefox-bin. don't
  uninstall the bin since it can coexhist with the non bin package try
  that (some hours of compilation) and see what it does.
 

 Hummmozilla-firefox hasn't been much of an option for me in the
 past. Too many problems with web-based media not playing without all
 the wincodecs stuff. Maybe this has improved? I've used firefox-bin
 really to get Flash, Java and wincodecs. I don't care which one I use.
 I just want a good user experience when I'm browsing around and run
 into something interesting.


the only stuff on amd64 that needs some more things to do is:
1. firefox 32 bit plugins
2. win32codecs.
at the end of the email i'll tell you how to install them and make them work
flawlessly.

I really only run the AMD64 version of Gentoo because a few years ago
 when I bought this system it seemed like an interesting thing to try
 out and at the time I had a Linux laptop running 32-bit Gentoo in case
 I ran into problems. Then a guy on the web found me and wanted to buy
 my 2 year old laptop for more than I paid for it (he wanted a backup
 machine) so I sold it and no longer have that backup.

 As an everyday, normal desktop user-type I really don't know that
 running 64bit Gentoo offers me any advantages and has shown to have
 significant disadvantages, at least the way I build the comparison
 list. I wonder in what usage model do people here see a measurable
 advantage running 64-bit over 32-bit Gentoo?


it depends. for example i like to have the software that runs on my machine
to use all of its capabilities.

I've stuck with it for a long time, and I hate to give up, but maybe
 it's time to just pack it in and rebuild the machine.

 I'll keep poking around at this.


for win32codecs you just have to emerge the win32codecs and you've done.
there's really no other real thing to do.
for the mediaplayer plugin install mplayer + mplayer-plugin and you'll have
firefox run it without issues. mplayer is also useful for some videos that
xine plays in the wrong way (mainly h264 with ac3 that has some issues with
the subtitles and mplayer doesn't).
install mozilla-firefox (not bin).
as for java and firefox: install emul-linux-java (that you already have)
for flash and firefox: install netscape-flash and nspluginwrapper and then
do:
nspluginwrapper -v -i /usr/lib32/nsbrowser/plugins/libflashplayer.so

restart your mozilla-firefox (not the bin version). and you should be able
to run flash, java, mediaplayer plugins on firefox amd64.
if you still have problems just ask.

Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Knecht 
On Nov 12, 2007 12:36 AM, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 2007/11/12, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Nov 11, 2007 2:52 PM, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  SNIP
  
   the system configs are normal too the only thing that i can advise
 you
   to do is try the mozilla-firefox instead of mozilla-firefox-bin. don't
   uninstall the bin since it can coexhist with the non bin package try
   that (some hours of compilation) and see what it does.
  
 
  Hummmozilla-firefox hasn't been much of an option for me in the
  past. Too many problems with web-based media not playing without all
  the wincodecs stuff. Maybe this has improved? I've used firefox-bin
  really to get Flash, Java and wincodecs. I don't care which one I use.
  I just want a good user experience when I'm browsing around and run
  into something interesting.

 the only stuff on amd64 that needs some more things to do is:
 1. firefox 32 bit plugins
 2. win32codecs.
 at the end of the email i'll tell you how to install them and make them work
 flawlessly.

  I really only run the AMD64 version of Gentoo because a few years ago
  when I bought this system it seemed like an interesting thing to try
  out and at the time I had a Linux laptop running 32-bit Gentoo in case
  I ran into problems. Then a guy on the web found me and wanted to buy
  my 2 year old laptop for more than I paid for it (he wanted a backup
  machine) so I sold it and no longer have that backup.
 
  As an everyday, normal desktop user-type I really don't know that
  running 64bit Gentoo offers me any advantages and has shown to have
  significant disadvantages, at least the way I build the comparison
  list. I wonder in what usage model do people here see a measurable
  advantage running 64-bit over 32-bit Gentoo?

 it depends. for example i like to have the software that runs on my machine
 to use all of its capabilities.

  I've stuck with it for a long time, and I hate to give up, but maybe
  it's time to just pack it in and rebuild the machine.
 
  I'll keep poking around at this.

 for win32codecs you just have to emerge the win32codecs and you've done.
 there's really no other real thing to do.
 for the mediaplayer plugin install mplayer + mplayer-plugin and you'll have
 firefox run it without issues. mplayer is also useful for some videos that
 xine plays in the wrong way (mainly h264 with ac3 that has some issues with
 the subtitles and mplayer doesn't).
 install mozilla-firefox (not bin).
 as for java and firefox: install emul-linux-java (that you already have)
 for flash and firefox: install netscape-flash and nspluginwrapper and then
 do:
  nspluginwrapper -v -i /usr/lib32/nsbrowser/plugins/libflashplayer.so

 restart your mozilla-firefox (not the bin version). and you should be able
 to run flash, java, mediaplayer plugins on firefox amd64.
 if you still have problems just ask.


Thanks Beso, and Jeffery also.

OK, I'm doing a little catch up on system maintenance. I did an emerge
-DuN mozilla-firefox and picked up a few new updates. I did a
revdep-rebuild on some libraries and it looks like I'm ready to roll
with Firefox itself.

Now, should I rebuild Firefox? Here's how it is currently built:

lightning ~ # emerge -pvDuN mozilla-firefox

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB
lightning ~ # emerge -pv mozilla-firefox

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.9  USE=gnome java
-bindist -debug -filepicker -ipv6 -mozdevelop -moznopango
-restrict-javascript -xforms -xinerama -xprint LINGUAS=-af -ar -be
-bg -ca -cs -da -de -el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy
-fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn
-nb -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk
-sl -sv -sv_SE -tr -zh -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
lightning ~ #


QUESTION: Will the mplayerplug-in support Yahoo Video?

http://video.yahoo.com/

That's telling me I need Flash 8.0. I have Flash 9.0 installed so I'm
not clear what the problem is here:

lightning ~ # eix -I flash
[I] net-www/netscape-flash
 Available versions:  [M]7.0.68 {M}9.0.48.0!m 9.0.48.0-r1!m
{M}(~)9.0.60.0_beta082207!m (~)9.0.60.0_beta100107!m {debug}
 Installed versions:  9.0.60.0_beta100107!m(05:54:44 PM 10/19/2007)
 Homepage:http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
 Description: Adobe Flash Player

lightning ~ #

thanks,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-11-12 Thread Beso 
do you have started mozilla-firefox or mozilla-firefox-bin?! the compiled
mozilla-firefox starts with mozilla-firefox while the 32bit precompiled with
mozilla-firefox-bin. use the lauch or the console to start the compiled
version. after starting they both have the same process name (firefox-bin)
and cannot be used at the same time in the same userspace.
recompile firefox with a language option. i don't see any language
compiled try setting this into make.conf:

LINGUAS=en en_GB en_US  where  is your localization and then
rebuild firefox. the linguas will then build all the future packages that
build localization for your system. (it may not be needed but it's good to
have a system localized and stripped of other useless linguas.)
if it says it needs flash8 then flash9 is not loaded as an extension. see
the nspluginwrapper part to add the extension. maybe you could have to
manually link the the plugin into the mozilla directory plugins if
nspluginwrapper cannot do it.
after that you restart firefox and try youtube. if it makes you see the
videos then java and flash are working. if you miss the audio then recompile
the emul-x86 of alsa.


 Thanks Beso, and Jeffery also.

 OK, I'm doing a little catch up on system maintenance. I did an emerge
 -DuN mozilla-firefox and picked up a few new updates. I did a
 revdep-rebuild on some libraries and it looks like I'm ready to roll
 with Firefox itself.

 Now, should I rebuild Firefox? Here's how it is currently built:

 lightning ~ # emerge -pvDuN mozilla-firefox

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies... done!

 Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB
 lightning ~ # emerge -pv mozilla-firefox

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.9  USE=gnome java
 -bindist -debug -filepicker -ipv6 -mozdevelop -moznopango
 -restrict-javascript -xforms -xinerama -xprint LINGUAS=-af -ar -be
 -bg -ca -cs -da -de -el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy
 -fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn
 -nb -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk
 -sl -sv -sv_SE -tr -zh -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB

 Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
 lightning ~ #


 QUESTION: Will the mplayerplug-in support Yahoo Video?

 http://video.yahoo.com/

 That's telling me I need Flash 8.0. I have Flash 9.0 installed so I'm
 not clear what the problem is here:

 lightning ~ # eix -I flash
 [I] net-www/netscape-flash
  Available versions:  [M]7.0.68 {M}9.0.48.0!m 9.0.48.0-r1!m
 {M}(~)9.0.60.0_beta082207!m (~)9.0.60.0_beta100107!m {debug}
  Installed versions:  9.0.60.0_beta100107!m(05:54:44 PM 10/19/2007)
  Homepage:http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
  Description: Adobe Flash Player

 lightning ~ #

 thanks,
 Mark
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Knecht 
On Nov 12, 2007 10:56 AM, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 do you have started mozilla-firefox or mozilla-firefox-bin?! the compiled
 mozilla-firefox starts with mozilla-firefox while the 32bit precompiled with
 mozilla-firefox-bin. use the lauch or the console to start the compiled
 version. after starting they both have the same process name (firefox-bin)
 and cannot be used at the same time in the same userspace.
 recompile firefox with a language option. i don't see any language
 compiled try setting this into make.conf:

 LINGUAS=en en_GB en_US  where  is your localization and then
 rebuild firefox. the linguas will then build all the future packages that
 build localization for your system. (it may not be needed but it's good to
 have a system localized and stripped of other useless linguas.)

I've not done anything yet. Here is what was in make.conf when I posted earlier:

lightning ~ # cat /etc/make.conf | grep LINGUAS
LINGUAS=en
lightning ~ #

However when I look at the options in emerge I don't see en or en_US as options:

lightning ~ # emerge -pv mozilla-firefox

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.9  USE=gnome java
-bindist -debug -filepicker -ipv6 -mozdevelop -moznopango
-restrict-javascript -xforms -xinerama -xprint LINGUAS=-af -ar -be
-bg -ca -cs -da -de -el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy
-fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn
-nb -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk
-sl -sv -sv_SE -tr -zh -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
lightning ~ #

Currently my /etc/locale.gen file has this:

lightning ~ # cat /etc/locale.gen
en_US ISO-8859-1
en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
lightning ~ #

What do you want me to add to make.conf???

I'm happy to make the changes. Best to have things set right.

I will deal with the Flash stuff after I make sure I understand your
instructions on this part. en_US and en_GB? Added now but waiting for
some feedback before I start rebuilding.

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-11-12 Thread Drake Donahue 


- Original Message - 
From: Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day



On Nov 12, 2007 12:36 AM, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



2007/11/12, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Nov 11, 2007 2:52 PM, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 SNIP
 
  the system configs are normal too the only thing that i can 
  advise

you
  to do is try the mozilla-firefox instead of mozilla-firefox-bin. 
  don't
  uninstall the bin since it can coexhist with the non bin package 
  try

  that (some hours of compilation) and see what it does.
 

 Hummmozilla-firefox hasn't been much of an option for me in the
 past. Too many problems with web-based media not playing without all
 the wincodecs stuff. Maybe this has improved? I've used firefox-bin
 really to get Flash, Java and wincodecs. I don't care which one I use.
 I just want a good user experience when I'm browsing around and run
 into something interesting.

the only stuff on amd64 that needs some more things to do is:
1. firefox 32 bit plugins
2. win32codecs.
at the end of the email i'll tell you how to install them and make them 
work

flawlessly.

 I really only run the AMD64 version of Gentoo because a few years ago
 when I bought this system it seemed like an interesting thing to try
 out and at the time I had a Linux laptop running 32-bit Gentoo in case
 I ran into problems. Then a guy on the web found me and wanted to buy
 my 2 year old laptop for more than I paid for it (he wanted a backup
 machine) so I sold it and no longer have that backup.

 As an everyday, normal desktop user-type I really don't know that
 running 64bit Gentoo offers me any advantages and has shown to have
 significant disadvantages, at least the way I build the comparison
 list. I wonder in what usage model do people here see a measurable
 advantage running 64-bit over 32-bit Gentoo?

it depends. for example i like to have the software that runs on my 
machine

to use all of its capabilities.

 I've stuck with it for a long time, and I hate to give up, but maybe
 it's time to just pack it in and rebuild the machine.

 I'll keep poking around at this.

for win32codecs you just have to emerge the win32codecs and you've done.
there's really no other real thing to do.
for the mediaplayer plugin install mplayer + mplayer-plugin and you'll 
have
firefox run it without issues. mplayer is also useful for some videos 
that
xine plays in the wrong way (mainly h264 with ac3 that has some issues 
with

the subtitles and mplayer doesn't).
install mozilla-firefox (not bin).
as for java and firefox: install emul-linux-java (that you already have)
for flash and firefox: install netscape-flash and nspluginwrapper and 
then

do:
 nspluginwrapper -v -i /usr/lib32/nsbrowser/plugins/libflashplayer.so

restart your mozilla-firefox (not the bin version). and you should be 
able

to run flash, java, mediaplayer plugins on firefox amd64.
if you still have problems just ask.



Thanks Beso, and Jeffery also.

OK, I'm doing a little catch up on system maintenance. I did an emerge
-DuN mozilla-firefox and picked up a few new updates. I did a
revdep-rebuild on some libraries and it looks like I'm ready to roll
with Firefox itself.

Now, should I rebuild Firefox? Here's how it is currently built:

lightning ~ # emerge -pvDuN mozilla-firefox

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB
lightning ~ # emerge -pv mozilla-firefox

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.9  USE=gnome java
-bindist -debug -filepicker -ipv6 -mozdevelop -moznopango
-restrict-javascript -xforms -xinerama -xprint LINGUAS=-af -ar -be
-bg -ca -cs -da -de -el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy
-fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn
-nb -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk
-sl -sv -sv_SE -tr -zh -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
lightning ~ #


QUESTION: Will the mplayerplug-in support Yahoo Video?

http://video.yahoo.com/

That's telling me I need Flash 8.0. I have Flash 9.0 installed so I'm
not clear what the problem is here:

lightning ~ # eix -I flash
[I] net-www/netscape-flash
Available versions:  [M]7.0.68 {M}9.0.48.0!m 9.0.48.0-r1!m
{M}(~)9.0.60.0_beta082207!m (~)9.0.60.0_beta100107!m {debug}
Installed versions:  9.0.60.0_beta100107!m(05:54:44 PM 10/19/2007)
Homepage:http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
Description: Adobe Flash Player

lightning ~ #



type about:plugins in the firefox url window and enter, see if Shockwave 
Flash is listed followed by File name npwrapper.libflashplayer.so   --you 
haven't mentioned installing  nspluginwrapper



thanks

Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-11-12 Thread Sergio Polini 
Beso:
 for win32codecs you just have to emerge the win32codecs and you've
 done. there's really no other real thing to do.
 for the mediaplayer plugin install mplayer + mplayer-plugin and
 you'll have firefox run it without issues. mplayer is also useful
 for some videos that xine plays in the wrong way (mainly h264 with
 ac3 that has some issues with the subtitles and mplayer doesn't).
 install mozilla-firefox (not bin).
 as for java and firefox: install emul-linux-java (that you already
 have) for flash and firefox: install netscape-flash and 
 nspluginwrapper and then do:
 nspluginwrapper -v -i
 /usr/lib32/nsbrowser/plugins/libflashplayer.so

Please, could you tell me (us) which USE flags are advisable for 
win32codecs, mplayer and mplayerplug-in?
Thanks
Sergio

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-11-12 Thread Beso 
well, normally packages are compiled with en,en_US or en_GB. adding all of
them sets the programs to install at least one of them by default. if you
need en_US, then add only that, so your linguas should remain only en and
en_US. if it's not read then there's no problem. so i think that it's not a
real need to rebuild anything. just leave there the linguas and build only
new packages with that languages when they came out. since it does nothing
particular not having it installed for that particular language. also i
think that rebuilding a lot of packages just to add en_US and loosing time
doing that it's not good.
so, just add en_US and then build with that flags just the updated packages
that will hit portage in the future.


 I will deal with the Flash stuff after I make sure I understand your
 instructions on this part. en_US and en_GB? Added now but waiting for
 some feedback before I start rebuilding.



so try fixing the nspluginwrapper (if you need help search nspluginwrapper
on http://gentoo-wiki.com/) and if the base install command doesn't work
then do a symlink to the plugin in the mozilla directory.


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Knecht 
Hi all,
   Just a thanks up front for all your help so far. Possibly the
crashing is behind me. I appreciate all the attention. Now, on to
Flash and Java...

On Nov 12, 2007 11:32 AM, Drake Donahue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
 

 type about:plugins in the firefox url window and enter, see if Shockwave
 Flash is listed followed by File name npwrapper.libflashplayer.so   --you
 haven't mentioned installing  nspluginwrapper


Drake,
   Indeed, somewhere along the way Beso suggested removing things to
look for what might be causing the crash. nspluginwrapper was one I
had removed. I reinstalled it and now going to the video.yahoo.com
page doesn't cause a warning anymore. However when I try to play any
video I see the first couple of frames and then I see a gray box drawn
over the top. Audio continues as the video plays but I no longer see
any video.

   Lest I sound like I'm complaining I do think we're making progress.
I rebooted the machine and started the 64-bit browser. Always before
if I created a second tab and tried to rearrange tabs the browser
crashed. It no longer does that. (Maybe simply because I;m using the
64-bit version. I don't know...)

   I wonder if I should be deleting the .mozilla directory to properly
test this stuff?

   OK, so here's what I'm currently seeing in about:plugins:

Shockwave Flash
npwrapper.libflashplayer.so

Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible
npwrapper.nphelix.so

NPAPI Plugins Wrapper 0.9.91.4
npwrapper.so

VLC Multimedia Plugin
libvlcplugin.so

QuickTime Plug-in 6.0 / 7
mplayerplug-in-qt.so

mplayerplug-in 3.45
mplayerplug-in.so

   Currently if I go to this page Java isn't working at all.

http://www.prophet.net/analyze/javacharts.jsp

   Not my biggest problem but I need to solve it.

STATUS:

1) Firefox crashing - Possibly fixed. Thanks!

2) Flash video - gray box. This is what I'd like to solve first if possible.

3) Java - not seen by the browser. Have done very little work on it
yet but building a little on Jeffery's idea I tried to do it with the
currently installed version of Java:

lightning ~ # slocate libjavaplugin_oji.so
/opt/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
/opt/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so
lightning ~ #

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -la .mozilla/plugins
ls: cannot access .mozilla/plugins: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $

So I have no .mozilla/plugins directory to build the link. I tried
adding a plugins directory and creating a link as shown but the
Prophet web site still says no Java.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/.mozilla/plugins $ ls -la
total 12
drwxr-xr-x 2 mark users 4096 2007-11-12 12:56 .
drwx-- 4 mark users 4096 2007-11-12 12:56 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mark users   70 2007-11-12 12:56 libjavaplugin_oji.so -
/opt/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/.mozilla/plugins $

I used the first link but maybe that's wrong since it points at the
emul-linux directory?

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-11-12 Thread Beso 

 type about:plugins in the firefox url window and enter, see if Shockwave

Flash is listed followed by File name npwrapper.libflashplayer.so   --you
 haven't mentioned installing  nspluginwrapper


i myself don't have that file but flash works well. i do have nsplugin
installed.
i'm pretty stranded that i don't see the java inside there. it should be
since i can use java apps.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-11-12 Thread Beso 
this one breaks your firefox
Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible
npwrapper.nphelix.so
remove helix and use xine in its place for the apps that are using it. also
remove all real player apps, and build win32codecs with real flag, and then
install the mplayerplug-in. you cannot use helix-real with
firefox-641.5versions for what i know.
as for flash, sometimes it breaks and you need to restart firefox. the right
way to use flash on 64bit is to have that tab the only one that is accessing
internet from the browser, that flash has unlimited disk space and that you
don't use intesively your disk. if you happen to see a blank screen reload
the page. when you see a white page without the video then flash has broken
and you need to restart firefox. this happens usually after 30-40mins of
flash using, or after 2 hours of firefox open (also no flash use) or also
just after starting firefox. this is a little unpredictable, for what i've
experienced.
as for the .mozilla dir, clear everything with ctrl+shift+del, then save
your bookmarks and settings and delete the .mozilla dir. after that you
restart firefox and it should work well.
now i can figure out a little about why the bin failed: it had 32bit and
64bit plugins (the vlc and maybe mplayerplug-in) which broke it. if you want
to use firefox 32 bit, then compile mplayer, mplayer plugin for 32bit and
remove vlc from the plugins for 32bit.
as for java, i'll document a little, and try to see what i'm missing too,
since i cannot see the java plugin installed.

STATUS:

 1) Firefox crashing - Possibly fixed. Thanks!

 2) Flash video - gray box. This is what I'd like to solve first if
 possible.

 3) Java - not seen by the browser. Have done very little work on it
 yet but building a little on Jeffery's idea I tried to do it with the
 currently installed version of Java:

 lightning ~ # slocate libjavaplugin_oji.so
 /opt/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
 /opt/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03
 /plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so


i'll try symlinking it in the plugin dir and see what happens. i'll let you
know what happens.


 So I have no .mozilla/plugins directory to build the link. I tried
 adding a plugins directory and creating a link as shown but the
 Prophet web site still says no Java.


there is the one in /usr. i just have to search for it and fix it.





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Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-11-12 Thread Drake Donahue 


- Original Message - 
From: Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day



Hi all,
  Just a thanks up front for all your help so far. Possibly the
crashing is behind me. I appreciate all the attention. Now, on to
Flash and Java...

On Nov 12, 2007 11:32 AM, Drake Donahue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP



type about:plugins in the firefox url window and enter, see if Shockwave
Flash is listed followed by File name npwrapper.libflashplayer.so   --you
haven't mentioned installing  nspluginwrapper



Drake,
  Indeed, somewhere along the way Beso suggested removing things to
look for what might be causing the crash. nspluginwrapper was one I
had removed. I reinstalled it and now going to the video.yahoo.com
page doesn't cause a warning anymore. However when I try to play any
video I see the first couple of frames and then I see a gray box drawn
over the top. Audio continues as the video plays but I no longer see
any video.

  Lest I sound like I'm complaining I do think we're making progress.
I rebooted the machine and started the 64-bit browser. Always before
if I created a second tab and tried to rearrange tabs the browser
crashed. It no longer does that. (Maybe simply because I;m using the
64-bit version. I don't know...)

  I wonder if I should be deleting the .mozilla directory to properly
test this stuff?

  OK, so here's what I'm currently seeing in about:plugins:

Shockwave Flash
npwrapper.libflashplayer.so

Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible
npwrapper.nphelix.so

NPAPI Plugins Wrapper 0.9.91.4
npwrapper.so

VLC Multimedia Plugin
libvlcplugin.so

QuickTime Plug-in 6.0 / 7
mplayerplug-in-qt.so

mplayerplug-in 3.45
mplayerplug-in.so



I think that you have now gotten Firefox to connect to a Flash plug-in; 
however the plugin has a problem.

Suggestion:
Visit 
http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/static/Linux/ShockwaveFlash/English.html

and download Option 1, the tar.gz file
extract libflashplayer.so from the downloaded file and place it in 
/opt/netscape/plugins ( in other words, create 
/opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so )

then run
nspluginwrapper -i /opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so
This should produce a nice new up to date  file:
/usr/lib64/nsbrowser/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
for firefox to use.
This is based on how i got flash to work in 64 bit firefox (including at 
video.yahoo.com).


Btw my experience with helix/realplayer has been more positive than Beso's. 
I emerged realplayer and the nspluginwrapper in sequence followed by the 
flash steps above and all went well.


My only real player complaint is not bewing able to get full screen.
May be related to not doing a java plugin.



  Currently if I go to this page Java isn't working at all.

http://www.prophet.net/analyze/javacharts.jsp

  Not my biggest problem but I need to solve it.

STATUS:

1) Firefox crashing - Possibly fixed. Thanks!

2) Flash video - gray box. This is what I'd like to solve first if 
possible.


3) Java - not seen by the browser. Have done very little work on it
yet but building a little on Jeffery's idea I tried to do it with the
currently installed version of Java:

lightning ~ # slocate libjavaplugin_oji.so
/opt/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
/opt/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so
lightning ~ #

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -la .mozilla/plugins
ls: cannot access .mozilla/plugins: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $

So I have no .mozilla/plugins directory to build the link. I tried
adding a plugins directory and creating a link as shown but the
Prophet web site still says no Java.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/.mozilla/plugins $ ls -la
total 12
drwxr-xr-x 2 mark users 4096 2007-11-12 12:56 .
drwx-- 4 mark users 4096 2007-11-12 12:56 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mark users   70 2007-11-12 12:56 libjavaplugin_oji.so -
/opt/emul-linux-x86-java-1.6.0.03/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/.mozilla/plugins $

I used the first link but maybe that's wrong since it points at the
emul-linux directory?

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Knecht 
On Nov 12, 2007 1:23 PM, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 this one breaks your firefox

 Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible
 npwrapper.nphelix.so
 remove helix and use xine in its place for the apps that are using it. also
 remove all real player apps, and build win32codecs with real flag, and then
 install the mplayerplug-in. you cannot use helix-real with firefox-64 1.5
 versions for what i know.

This may be something stranded but even the data in about:plugins is
somewhat suspect.

File name: npwrapper.nphelix.so
Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible version
0.4.0.626 built with gcc 3.2.0 on Jul 26 2007

From emerge.log, nothing was built on July 26, 2007:

1185207076: Started emerge on: Jul 23, 2007 09:11:16
1185207076:  *** emerge  sync
1185207076:  === sync
1185207076:  Starting rsync with rsync://134.68.220.97/gentoo-portage
1185207227: === Sync completed with rsync://134.68.220.97/gentoo-portage
1185207315:  *** terminating.
1185729994: Started emerge on: Jul 29, 2007 10:26:34
1185729994:  *** emerge  sync
1185729994:  === sync
1185729994:  Starting rsync with rsync://140.211.166.165/gentoo-portage
1185730131: === Sync completed with rsync://140.211.166.165/gentoo-portage
1185730227:  *** terminating.

Maybe that July 26th date was from when something was built off of
this machine. I'm not sure.

I've removed realplayer. I need to search out exactly what you meant
by using xine inside my browser. I don't see an nsplugin for xine.

I'm a little worried that my machine here might need some looking
after in terms of getting up to date. I'm going to give the current
use flags a once over and then do an emerge -DuN world to make sure
everything is more or less consistent with what the Gentoo devs would
expect. I'll look at the wiki's and see if I can find a good AMD64
wiki that addresses all this stuff in parallel. If you get a chance to
clarify any of this then thanks in advance!

Back later, and thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Knecht 
On Nov 12, 2007 1:06 PM, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 the base settings of portage; as for win32codecs i have real enabled; for
 the mplayerplug-in divx gmedia gtk quicktime realmedia wmp and for mplayer:
 (-3dfx) (3dnow) (3dnowext) (X) (a52) (aac) (aalib) (alsa) (-altivec)
 (-amrnb) (-amrwb) (-arts) (-ass) (bidi) (-bindist) (-bl) (cddb)
 (-cdparanoia) (-color-console) (cpudetection) (-custom-cflags) (-debug)
 (dga) (-directfb) (-doc) (dv) (-dvb) (dvd) (dvdnav) (dvdread) (enca)
 (encode) (-esd) (-fbcon) (-fpm) (ftp) (-ggi) (gif) (gtk) (-i8x0) (ipv6)
 (-ivtv) (-jack) (-joystick) (jpeg) (-ladspa) (libcaca) (-linguas_bg)
 (-linguas_cs) (-linguas_da) (-linguas_de) (-linguas_el) (linguas_en)
 (-linguas_es) (-linguas_fr) (-linguas_hu) (-linguas_ja) (-linguas_ko)
 (-linguas_mk) (-linguas_nl) (-linguas_no) (-linguas_pl) (-linguas_pt_BR)
 (-linguas_ro) (-linguas_ru) (-linguas_sk) (-linguas_tr) (-linguas_uk)
 (-linguas_zh_CN) (-linguas_zh_TW) (-lirc) (live) (-livecd) (lzo) (-matrox)
 (-mga) (mmx) (mmxext) (-mp2) (mp3) (mpeg) (musepack) (-nas) (nls) (-nut)
 (-nvidia) (openal) (opengl) (-oss) (png) (-pnm) (pulseaudio) (quicktime)
 (-radio) (rar) (-real) (rtc) (samba) (-sdl) (-sortsub) (speex) (sse) (sse2)
 (-svga) (-tga) (theora) (-tivo) (truetype) (unicode) (v4l) (v4l2) (vorbis)
 (-win32codecs) (x264) (-xanim) (xinerama) (-xmga) (xv) (xvid) (xvmc)
 (-zoran)
 but for mplayer you may have some use flags that aren't there, since i use
 the svn version of mplayer.


OK, it seems that sometimes FLash is working on my system. It never
works on Yahoo but sometimes works on YouTube. I think it may fail on
YouTube after going to Yahoo, but not sure yet.

I'm thinking that for win32codecs the quicktime use flag isn't
supported in the version from portage, but I'm not sure what the
(-quicktime%) indication really means. Does that mean the quicktime
falg has been 'recently removed' from win32codecs?

lightning ~ # emerge -pvDuN mplayerplug-in

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild U ] media-libs/win32codecs-20071007-r2 [20071007-r1]
USE=-real* (-quicktime%*) 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] net-www/mplayerplug-in-3.45  USE=gtk mplayer-bin nls
quicktime realmedia* -divx -gmedia -wmp LINGUAS=en_US* -da -de -es
-fr -hu -it -ja -ko -nb -nl -pl -pt_BR -ru -se -zh_CN 223 kB

Total: 2 packages (1 upgrade, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 223 kB
lightning ~ #


# These settings were set by the catalyst build script that
automatically built this stage
CFLAGS=-march=k8 -O2 -pipe
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
USE=realmedia quicktime dri radeon mmx mmxext sse sse2 3dnow 3dnowext
gnome kde -esd -arts ladspa nptl nptlonly audiofile gimp gimpprint
ppds usb alsa cdr dvd dvdr dvdread jack jack-tmpfs fluidsynth tcltk
sndfile v4l v4l2 mysql flac xscreensaver -samba i8x0 mythtv apache2
-lirc mjpeg xvid xine cjk unicode vorbis ogg truetype java -eds dts
a52

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-11-12 Thread nuitari 
Compiling mozilla-firefox and using nspluginwrapper fixed all of the 
crashes I had when clicking on a link in Flash using mozilla-firefox-bin.


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-11-12 Thread Drake Donahue 


- Original Message - 
From: Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day


snip

Java:
Well worth reading and doing as they tell you:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/java/java-upgrade.xml
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/java.xml
A major key point the second  reference makes, which can be confirmed at the 
Sun web site, -- There is no java plugin for 64 bit mozilla browsers. 
Unfortunately nspluginwrapper cannot handle java 32 bit plugins.

So--
You can run the Konqueror browser which does not need a plugin but uses the 
java virtual machine directly.

You can use mozilla-firefox-bin with emul-linux-x86-java as the java plugin.

Konqueror worked on your analyze site some months ago; being a gnome I have 
not retried more recently.
I did emerge mozilla-firefox-bin followed by emerging emul-linux-x86-java. 
Automagically firefox-bin picked up helix(real player), flash, and java 
plugins. The first two plugins were on board from the actions described 
earlier which used nspluginwrapper to install them in 64 bit firefox. 
Firefox-bin displays jsp pages at www.prophet.net very well.


Were I in your shoes I would do the updating, probably including kernel, 
unmerge browsers and plugins, do the java references above, emerge 
firefox-bin,  emul-linux-x86-java, realplayer, netscape-flash. Check 
operation of firefox-bin. If flash failed to load up or fails to work, 
unmerge it, and use the direct download and manual install method discussed 
on the download site.





Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-11-11 Thread Mark Knecht 
On Oct 29, 2007 10:45 AM, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 try setting off java, clear everything from cache to cookies of passwords,
 disable addons and the restart it and see if it crashes. if it doesn't for
 some time enable one add-on per time and try it out for some time. if it
 doesn't crashes then add another addon.
 the last thing is to see if you have the x86 emuls installed if you are on
 64bit arch (java,sound,base,xorg) then see if you have the plugins compiled
 for 32 bit (you should have it that way since they are available on 32bit
 except mplayer). another thing is to have the last stable version of gtk+.
 that should fix the issues.
 if that doesn't work either try also compiling the mozilla-firefox package
 (and start it via firefox and not firefox-bin). if that's stable with the
 same .mozilla directory then there's something wrong in the firefox-bin
 package.
 i'd suggest you install ccache before compiling if you don't yet use it and
 to add the option --buildpkg to emerge, so that you can have the firefox
 package built for your particular system. this is useful also for long time
 compiling packages as gtk+,qt or kdelibs and kdebase. if you'd later need to
 reinstall them (for example the expat-2 update) you can install them in a
 matter of little time. just be aware that the packaging requires additional
 disk space to package the files once they're compiled.
 i didn't experience crashes in the last 6 months.


Hi all,
   I wrote to the list a couple of weeks ago about Firefox continually
crashing and got this detailed list of things I might try to see if I
could find a fix. As I'm not a sys admin or a programmer the list
scared me off a bit. However  I've had a very bad week of Firefox
crashing many times every day so I really need to try and find a
solution. This is the best set of ideas I've seen so far so I'm going
to try to do some of it today.

   Again, for review, Firefox started crashing multiple times a day
sometime after I tried to make sure I had Java and Flash working.

   I'd like to ask some questions about the ideas that were given.
Please keep in mind that primarily I am using firefox-bin.

1) How do I turn java and/or java-script off for firefox-bin? Is it
just the setting in the Preferences panel?

2) With respect to using Java in 64-bit Gentoo I am unsure of how to
configure my machine. If the OS is 64 bit but Firefox is 32-bit then
what is the correct setting?

lightning ~ # eselect java-vm list
Available Java Virtual Machines:
  [1]   emul-linux-x86-java-1.6
  [2]   sun-jdk-1.5
  [3]   sun-jdk-1.6  system-vm
  [4]   sun-jre-bin-1.6

lightning ~ # eselect java-vm show
Current system-vm
  sun-jdk-1.6
Current user-vm
  (unset)
lightning ~ #

It seems that my system has a VM but my account does not? I assume
that my account then uses the system VM? Is this appropriate? Also, do
I want to be using the sun-jdk? Or do I want either jre-bin or the
emulation vm?

With respect to the browser plugins I see this:

lightning ~ # eselect java-nsplugin list
Available 32-bit Java browser plugins
  [1]   emul-linux-x86-java-1.6  current
Available 64-bit Java browser plugins

lightning ~ # eselect java-nsplugin show
Current Java browser plugin
  (unset)

These setting just seem strange to me.

More info follows about what is installed. Let me know whatever info
you need to better judge why my browsers crash all the time now.

As for the ccache idea I really like the idea of keeping packages
around but not sure how I would use them correctly. For now I'll just
keep building stuff and see if I Can figure that out in parallel.

Thanks in advance,
Mark

lightning ~ # eix -Ic java
[I] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-java (1.6.0.03(1.6)@10/19/2007):
32bit version Sun's J2SE Development Kit
[I] dev-java/java-config ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/02/2007 2.0.33-r1(2)@07/09/2007):
Java environment configuration tool
[I] dev-java/java-config-wrapper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/01/2007): Wrapper for 
java-config
Found 3 matches.


lightning ~ # eix -Ic emul-linux
[I] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/01/2007): Provides
precompiled 32bit libraries
[I] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-compat ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/01/2007):
emul-linux-x86 version of lib-compat, with the addition of a 32bit
libgcc_s and the libstdc++ versions provided by gcc 3.3 and 3.4 for
non-multilib systems.
[I] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-gtklibs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/01/2007):
Provides precompiled 32bit libraries
[I] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-java (1.6.0.03(1.6)@10/19/2007):
32bit version Sun's J2SE Development Kit
[I] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-medialibs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/13/2007): Provides
precompiled 32bit libraries
[I] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-qtlibs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/01/2007): Provides
precompiled 32bit libraries
[I] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-sdl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/13/2007): Provides
precompiled 32bit libraries
[I] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/01/2007):
Provides precompiled 32bit

Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-11-11 Thread Beso 
 Hi all,
I wrote to the list a couple of weeks ago about Firefox continually
 crashing and got this detailed list of things I might try to see if I
 could find a fix. As I'm not a sys admin or a programmer the list
 scared me off a bit. However  I've had a very bad week of Firefox
 crashing many times every day so I really need to try and find a
 solution. This is the best set of ideas I've seen so far so I'm going
 to try to do some of it today.

Again, for review, Firefox started crashing multiple times a day
 sometime after I tried to make sure I had Java and Flash working.

I'd like to ask some questions about the ideas that were given.
 Please keep in mind that primarily I am using firefox-bin.

 1) How do I turn java and/or java-script off for firefox-bin? Is it
 just the setting in the Preferences panel?

 2) With respect to using Java in 64-bit Gentoo I am unsure of how to
 configure my machine. If the OS is 64 bit but Firefox is 32-bit then
 what is the correct setting?

 lightning ~ # eselect java-vm list
 Available Java Virtual Machines:
   [1]   emul-linux-x86-java-1.6
   [2]   sun-jdk-1.5
   [3]   sun-jdk-1.6  system-vm
   [4]   sun-jre-bin-1.6

 lightning ~ # eselect java-vm show
 Current system-vm
   sun-jdk-1.6
 Current user-vm
   (unset)
 lightning ~ #


if user hasn't a java-vm it will use the system one.

With respect to the browser plugins I see this:

 lightning ~ # eselect java-nsplugin list
 Available 32-bit Java browser plugins
   [1]   emul-linux-x86-java-1.6  current
 Available 64-bit Java browser plugins

 lightning ~ # eselect java-nsplugin show
 Current Java browser plugin
   (unset)

 These setting just seem strange to me.


they're ok, since there's no 64bit java-nsplugin. with firefox-bin you would
not have problems loading java.

More info follows about what is installed. Let me know whatever info
 you need to better judge why my browsers crash all the time now.

 As for the ccache idea I really like the idea of keeping packages
 around but not sure how I would use them correctly. For now I'll just
 keep building stuff and see if I Can figure that out in parallel.


ccache is needed to reduce  the compilation time of packages. the portage
feature to package is another thing.

Thanks in advance,
 Mark

 lightning ~ # eix -Ic java
 [I] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-java (1.6.0.03(1.6)@10/19/2007):
 32bit version Sun's J2SE Development Kit
 [I] dev-java/java-config ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/02/2007 2.0.33-r1(2)@07/09/2007):
 Java environment configuration tool
 [I] dev-java/java-config-wrapper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/01/2007): Wrapper for
 java-config
 Found 3 matches.


this is pretty normal on a 64bit system.

lightning ~ # eix -Ic emul-linux
 [I] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/01/2007): 
 Provides
 precompiled 32bit libraries
 [I] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-compat ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/01/2007):
 emul-linux-x86 version of lib-compat, with the addition of a 32bit
 libgcc_s and the libstdc++ versions provided by gcc 3.3 and 3.4 for
 non-multilib systems.
 [I] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-gtklibs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/01/2007):
 Provides precompiled 32bit libraries
 [I] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-java (1.6.0.03(1.6)@10/19/2007):
 32bit version Sun's J2SE Development Kit
 [I] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-medialibs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/13/2007): 
 Provides
 precompiled 32bit libraries
 [I] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-qtlibs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/01/2007): Provides
 precompiled 32bit libraries
 [I] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-sdl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/13/2007): Provides
 precompiled 32bit libraries
 [I] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/01/2007):
 Provides precompiled 32bit libraries
 [I] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/01/2007): Provides
 precompiled 32bit libraries
 Found 9 matches.
 lightning ~ #


these also are pretty normal.

lightning ~ # cat /etc/make.conf
 # These settings were set by the catalyst build script that
 automatically built this stage
 CFLAGS=-march=k8 -O2 -pipe
 CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
 USE=dri radeon mmx mmxext sse sse2 3dnow 3dnowext gnome kde -esd
 -arts ladspa nptl nptlonly audiofile gimp gimpprint ppds usb alsa cdr
 dvd dvdr dvdread jack jack-tmpfs fluidsynth tcltk sndfile v4l v4l2
 mysql flac xscreensaver -samba i8x0 mythtv apache2 -lirc mjpeg xvid
 real cjk unicode vorbis ogg truetype java -eds dts a52
 CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
 MAKEOPTS=-j2
 GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://mirror.tucdemonic.org/gentoo/
 ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo http://mirror.gentoo.gr.jp
 http://www.zentek-international.com/mirrors/gentoo/;
 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64
 ALSA_CARDS=hdsp9652 hdsp
 VIDEO_CARDS=radeon vesa
 LINGUAS=en
 PORTAGE_NICENESS=19
 PORTDIR_OVERLAY=
 PORTDIR_OVERLAY=${PORTDIR_OVERLAY} /usr/local/portage
 PORTDIR_OVERLAY=${PORTDIR_OVERLAY} /usr/portage/local/layman/pro-audio
 #source /usr/portage/local/layman/make.conf
 source /usr/portage/local/layman/make.conf
 lightning ~ #


 lightning ~ # uname -a

Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-11-11 Thread Mark Knecht 
On Nov 11, 2007 2:52 PM, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

SNIP

 the system configs are normal too the only thing that i can advise you
 to do is try the mozilla-firefox instead of mozilla-firefox-bin. don't
 uninstall the bin since it can coexhist with the non bin package try
 that (some hours of compilation) and see what it does.


Hummmozilla-firefox hasn't been much of an option for me in the
past. Too many problems with web-based media not playing without all
the wincodecs stuff. Maybe this has improved? I've used firefox-bin
really to get Flash, Java and wincodecs. I don't care which one I use.
I just want a good user experience when I'm browsing around and run
into something interesting.

I really only run the AMD64 version of Gentoo because a few years ago
when I bought this system it seemed like an interesting thing to try
out and at the time I had a Linux laptop running 32-bit Gentoo in case
I ran into problems. Then a guy on the web found me and wanted to buy
my 2 year old laptop for more than I paid for it (he wanted a backup
machine) so I sold it and no longer have that backup.

As an everyday, normal desktop user-type I really don't know that
running 64bit Gentoo offers me any advantages and has shown to have
significant disadvantages, at least the way I build the comparison
list. I wonder in what usage model do people here see a measurable
advantage running 64-bit over 32-bit Gentoo?

I've stuck with it for a long time, and I hate to give up, but maybe
it's time to just pack it in and rebuild the machine.

I'll keep poking around at this.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-10-29 Thread Javi Moreno 
It also happens to me many times, only with the 32bit versión in my 64bit
machine.

In my case, it's random, when entering diferents websites, at diferent
times, with diferent actions, some days 10 ten times, some weeks never and
so on.


On 10/29/07, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
I'm wondering if anyone else is suffering the problems I am with
 firefox-bin crashing a few times every day. It seems to be more or
 less repeatable. After logging into Gnome for the first time if I have
 two tabs and attempt to drag one tab to a different location then it
 crashes. Not every time, but often. When I start firefox-bin a second
 time it recognizes that it crashed, restarts the previous session, and
 at this point it doesn't crash if I drag tabs around.

I have also had this happen multiple times hitting an Attach File
 button in GMail.

I will say that this seems to have started roughly after the last
 time I wrote to the list asking about Java  Flash support. I changed
 a number of things at that time  I can go back and look them up if
 folks think it's really involved. However this seems a strange thing
 to blame on Java or Flash. That work is still in .bash_history so I
 can at least get a rough idea of what I was doing if it seems
 important.

There is little to configure for firefox-bin itself. I've attached
 the emerge command for reference.

I've tried running firefox-bin in a terminal but I don't get any
 info. I should probably learn how to use something like gdb but I'm
 resistant.

Anyway, I'm mainly looking for ideas about what to consider looking
 at to fix this. It's getting frustrating. It crashed 4 times
 yesterday.

 Thanks,
 Mark

 lightning ~ # emerge -pv mozilla-firefox-bin

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-bin-2.0.0.8
 USE=-restrict-javascript LINGUAS=-af -ar -be -bg -ca -cs -da -de
 -el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy -fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gu
 -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn -nb -nb_NO -nl -nn
 -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk -sl -sv -sv_SE -tr
 -zh -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB

 Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
 lightning ~ #
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[gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-10-29 Thread Mark Knecht 
Hi,
   I'm wondering if anyone else is suffering the problems I am with
firefox-bin crashing a few times every day. It seems to be more or
less repeatable. After logging into Gnome for the first time if I have
two tabs and attempt to drag one tab to a different location then it
crashes. Not every time, but often. When I start firefox-bin a second
time it recognizes that it crashed, restarts the previous session, and
at this point it doesn't crash if I drag tabs around.

   I have also had this happen multiple times hitting an Attach File
button in GMail.

   I will say that this seems to have started roughly after the last
time I wrote to the list asking about Java  Flash support. I changed
a number of things at that time  I can go back and look them up if
folks think it's really involved. However this seems a strange thing
to blame on Java or Flash. That work is still in .bash_history so I
can at least get a rough idea of what I was doing if it seems
important.

   There is little to configure for firefox-bin itself. I've attached
the emerge command for reference.

   I've tried running firefox-bin in a terminal but I don't get any
info. I should probably learn how to use something like gdb but I'm
resistant.

   Anyway, I'm mainly looking for ideas about what to consider looking
at to fix this. It's getting frustrating. It crashed 4 times
yesterday.

Thanks,
Mark

lightning ~ # emerge -pv mozilla-firefox-bin

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-bin-2.0.0.8
USE=-restrict-javascript LINGUAS=-af -ar -be -bg -ca -cs -da -de
-el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy -fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gu
-gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn -nb -nb_NO -nl -nn
-nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk -sl -sv -sv_SE -tr
-zh -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-10-29 Thread Mark Knecht 
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On 10/29/07, Javi Moreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On 10/29/07, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
 I'm wondering if anyone else is suffering the problems I am with
  firefox-bin crashing a few times every day. It seems to be more or
  less repeatable. After logging into Gnome for the first time if I have
  two tabs and attempt to drag one tab to a different location then it
  crashes. Not every time, but often. When I start firefox-bin a second
  time it recognizes that it crashed, restarts the previous session, and
  at this point it doesn't crash if I drag tabs around.
 
 I have also had this happen multiple times hitting an Attach File
  button in GMail.
 
 I will say that this seems to have started roughly after the last
  time I wrote to the list asking about Java  Flash support. I changed
  a number of things at that time  I can go back and look them up if
  folks think it's really involved. However this seems a strange thing
  to blame on Java or Flash. That work is still in .bash_history so I
  can at least get a rough idea of what I was doing if it seems
  important.
 
 There is little to configure for firefox-bin itself. I've attached
  the emerge command for reference.
 
 I've tried running firefox-bin in a terminal but I don't get any
  info. I should probably learn how to use something like gdb but I'm
  resistant.
 
 Anyway, I'm mainly looking for ideas about what to consider looking
  at to fix this. It's getting frustrating. It crashed 4 times
  yesterday.
 
SNIP

 It also happens to me many times, only with the 32bit versión in my 64bit
 machine.

 In my case, it's random, when entering diferents websites, at diferent
 times, with diferent actions, some days 10 ten times, some weeks never and
 so on.


Yes, sounds very much like my problems. Mostly it's pretty random.
Clicking on some random link on random web sites can set it off. All
sort of little things make it happen. The only semi-consistent thing
I've found that's sort of repeatable from day to day is the
rearranging of tabs. That will almost always make it happen after
logging in the first time of the day.

Thanks for the feedback.

- Mark
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-10-29 Thread Beso 
try setting off java, clear everything from cache to cookies of passwords,
disable addons and the restart it and see if it crashes. if it doesn't for
some time enable one add-on per time and try it out for some time. if it
doesn't crashes then add another addon.
the last thing is to see if you have the x86 emuls installed if you are on
64bit arch (java,sound,base,xorg) then see if you have the plugins compiled
for 32 bit (you should have it that way since they are available on 32bit
except mplayer). another thing is to have the last stable version of gtk+.
that should fix the issues.
if that doesn't work either try also compiling the mozilla-firefox package
(and start it via firefox and not firefox-bin). if that's stable with the
same .mozilla directory then there's something wrong in the firefox-bin
package.
i'd suggest you install ccache before compiling if you don't yet use it and
to add the option --buildpkg to emerge, so that you can have the firefox
package built for your particular system. this is useful also for long time
compiling packages as gtk+,qt or kdelibs and kdebase. if you'd later need to
reinstall them (for example the expat-2 update) you can install them in a
matter of little time. just be aware that the packaging requires additional
disk space to package the files once they're compiled.
i didn't experience crashes in the last 6 months.

2007/10/29, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 (Watch out for top posting! I've rearranged the text here.)

 On 10/29/07, Javi Moreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  On 10/29/07, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Hi,
  I'm wondering if anyone else is suffering the problems I am with
   firefox-bin crashing a few times every day. It seems to be more or
   less repeatable. After logging into Gnome for the first time if I have
   two tabs and attempt to drag one tab to a different location then it
   crashes. Not every time, but often. When I start firefox-bin a second
   time it recognizes that it crashed, restarts the previous session, and
   at this point it doesn't crash if I drag tabs around.
  
  I have also had this happen multiple times hitting an Attach File
   button in GMail.
  
  I will say that this seems to have started roughly after the last
   time I wrote to the list asking about Java  Flash support. I changed
   a number of things at that time  I can go back and look them up if
   folks think it's really involved. However this seems a strange thing
   to blame on Java or Flash. That work is still in .bash_history so I
   can at least get a rough idea of what I was doing if it seems
   important.
  
  There is little to configure for firefox-bin itself. I've attached
   the emerge command for reference.
  
  I've tried running firefox-bin in a terminal but I don't get any
   info. I should probably learn how to use something like gdb but I'm
   resistant.
  
  Anyway, I'm mainly looking for ideas about what to consider looking
   at to fix this. It's getting frustrating. It crashed 4 times
   yesterday.
  
 SNIP
 
  It also happens to me many times, only with the 32bit versión in my
 64bit
  machine.
 
  In my case, it's random, when entering diferents websites, at diferent
  times, with diferent actions, some days 10 ten times, some weeks never
 and
  so on.
 

 Yes, sounds very much like my problems. Mostly it's pretty random.
 Clicking on some random link on random web sites can set it off. All
 sort of little things make it happen. The only semi-consistent thing
 I've found that's sort of repeatable from day to day is the
 rearranging of tabs. That will almost always make it happen after
 logging in the first time of the day.

 Thanks for the feedback.

 - Mark
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] firefox-bin crashing a few times every day

2007-10-29 Thread Mark Knecht 
On 10/29/07, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 try setting off java, clear everything from cache to cookies of passwords,
 disable addons and the restart it and see if it crashes. if it doesn't for
 some time enable one add-on per time and try it out for some time. if it
 doesn't crashes then add another addon.
 the last thing is to see if you have the x86 emuls installed if you are on
 64bit arch (java,sound,base,xorg) then see if you have the plugins compiled
 for 32 bit (you should have it that way since they are available on 32bit
 except mplayer). another thing is to have the last stable version of gtk+.
 that should fix the issues.
 if that doesn't work either try also compiling the mozilla-firefox package
 (and start it via firefox and not firefox-bin). if that's stable with the
 same .mozilla directory then there's something wrong in the firefox-bin
 package.
 i'd suggest you install ccache before compiling if you don't yet use it and
 to add the option --buildpkg to emerge, so that you can have the firefox
 package built for your particular system. this is useful also for long time
 compiling packages as gtk+,qt or kdelibs and kdebase. if you'd later need to
 reinstall them (for example the expat-2 update) you can install them in a
 matter of little time. just be aware that the packaging requires additional
 disk space to package the files once they're compiled.
 i didn't experience crashes in the last 6 months.

Beso,
   I'll spend some time finding Gentoo manuals to see if I can figure
out what you're talking about. It sounds like great stuff but probably
way above my skill set. It may take some time.

Thanks,
Mark



 2007/10/29, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  (Watch out for top posting! I've rearranged the text here.)
 
  On 10/29/07, Javi Moreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
   On 10/29/07, Mark Knecht  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Hi,
   I'm wondering if anyone else is suffering the problems I am with
firefox-bin crashing a few times every day. It seems to be more or
less repeatable. After logging into Gnome for the first time if I have
two tabs and attempt to drag one tab to a different location then it
crashes. Not every time, but often. When I start firefox-bin a second
time it recognizes that it crashed, restarts the previous session, and
at this point it doesn't crash if I drag tabs around.
   
   I have also had this happen multiple times hitting an Attach File
button in GMail.
   
   I will say that this seems to have started roughly after the last
time I wrote to the list asking about Java  Flash support. I changed
a number of things at that time  I can go back and look them up if
folks think it's really involved. However this seems a strange thing
to blame on Java or Flash. That work is still in .bash_history so I
can at least get a rough idea of what I was doing if it seems
important.
   
   There is little to configure for firefox-bin itself. I've attached
the emerge command for reference.
   
   I've tried running firefox-bin in a terminal but I don't get any
info. I should probably learn how to use something like gdb but I'm
resistant.
   
   Anyway, I'm mainly looking for ideas about what to consider looking
at to fix this. It's getting frustrating. It crashed 4 times
yesterday.
   
  SNIP
  
   It also happens to me many times, only with the 32bit versión in my
 64bit
   machine.
  
   In my case, it's random, when entering diferents websites, at diferent
   times, with diferent actions, some days 10 ten times, some weeks never
 and
   so on.
  
 
  Yes, sounds very much like my problems. Mostly it's pretty random.
  Clicking on some random link on random web sites can set it off. All
  sort of little things make it happen. The only semi-consistent thing
  I've found that's sort of repeatable from day to day is the
  rearranging of tabs. That will almost always make it happen after
  logging in the first time of the day.
 
  Thanks for the feedback.
 
  - Mark
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