[gentoo-dev] MySQL doc [updated]

2005-07-12 Thread Chris White
I've updated the MySQL doc here:

http://dev.gentoo.org/~chriswhite/mysql.html

It contains the fixes that have been suggested to me, as well as a note on the 
SELECT field FROM table form of the SELECT statement.  Thanks for the input 
recieved!

Chris White


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[gentoo-dev] New Bugzilla HOWTO splitup

2005-07-12 Thread Chris White
Thanks to everyone that has given me input on the bugzilla document.  Right now 
we're working on splitting up the bugzilla guide as dsd has suggested.  Sorry 
about the delay in response, but these docs have been keeping me fairly busy 
(work as well), and with the school semester comming up soon, things are gonna 
get really weird really fast ;).  More information to come soon.

Chris White


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[gentoo-dev] Re:

2005-07-12 Thread Arnaud Launay
Le Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 01:22:59AM +0900, Chris White a écrit:
 I've updated the MySQL doc here:
 http://dev.gentoo.org/~chriswhite/mysql.html

Hm, I'd say privileges is privileges, not privleges :)

Arnaud.


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[gentoo-dev] Ebuild versioning problems

2005-07-12 Thread Anders Bruun Olsen
Hi,

I am working on an ebuild for open-iscsi (linux-iscsi-5.0.0.0.3rc6-363)
and would like to know what the best way of dealing with that totally
insane versionnumber is.
Right now I have the ebuild named linux-iscsi-5.0.0.0.3_rc6363.ebuild
and then set $MY_PV and $MY_P manually.
Is there a better way?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] MySQL doc [updated]

2005-07-12 Thread Philip Webb
050713 Chris White wrote:
 I've updated the MySQL doc here:
 http://dev.gentoo.org/~chriswhite/mysql.html
 It contains the fixes that have been suggested to me,
 as well as a note on the SELECT field FROM table form
 of the SELECT statement.  Thanks for the input recieved!

As someone who has never used MySQL, but might want to in future,
your help doc looks very useful: thanks for your efforts.

It does need running thro' a spell-checker  a careful proof-reading,
which is always easier for someone else than for the author himself.

Someone has already pointed out that it's 'Structured', not 'Standard'.
under '[code list] 1.4', why do we need a root password ?
  are you not setting this up as a user ? eg if I use MySQL,
  it will be to manage a large database of urban transit information,
  which I will do entirely inside my desktop machine
  with no access to other users or to the Internet [ok: I see Sect 4 below];
at the beginning of Sect 2 , you have 'promt';
below '2.1', you don't explain what database 'mysql' is for;
below '2.3', let's us know sb [should be] lets us know;
under 'Creating the tables', it looks very much like a spreadsheet:
  perhaps you could point out the parallels;
  can you import data directly from a spreadsheet like Open Calc ?
below '3.2', most simplistic sb simplest or most straightforward;
under '3.6', you should explain that you are using 'insert into'
  to insert a new record (if that's what it does), not arbitrary data;
under '3.7', seperated sb separated (other instances below):
  it's a trap for anyone who missed out on Latin at school (smile);
under '3.10', you need to expand your explanation:
  if you paste information into your infile;
under '3.11', comprimised sb compromised:
  3.11-12 looks a bit out of place: perhaps move it below with a cross-ref ?
under '3.14', why do the columns not line up in your examples ?
  is this a deficiency in MySQL or a result of your desktop set-up ?
under '3.16', priveleges  privleges sb privileges:
  this recurs several times below (grimace);
at the beginning of Sect 4 , the point about root versus users is explained:
  this sb mentioned briefly right at the top in Sect 1 ;
under '4.3', i would write quitting, but perhaps US-speak is quiting;
under '4.8', is admin the same as root ? -- this needs explanation.

I've skipped over all the stuff about user privileges,
as it looks as if my own usage would be as root in the MySQL sense (above).

One final point you don't mention: is there a GUI front-end for MySQL ?
I'm sure there is, so which one(s) do you recommend ?
For myself, I'm happy to use CLI where it's simplest,
but it looks as if a GUI would save a lot of typing injuries here.

HTH : it's meant to be picky (smile).
Your doc looks very helpful, but needs a bit of polishing  expansion.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Ebuild versioning problems

2005-07-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 12 July 2005 05:59 am, Anders Bruun Olsen wrote:
 I am working on an ebuild for open-iscsi (linux-iscsi-5.0.0.0.3rc6-363)
 and would like to know what the best way of dealing with that totally
 insane versionnumber is.
 Right now I have the ebuild named linux-iscsi-5.0.0.0.3_rc6363.ebuild
 and then set $MY_PV and $MY_P manually.
 Is there a better way?

none that i'm aware of :/

imho, projects who use those sort of versioning schemas should probably 
rethink wtf the version # means to them
-mike
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[gentoo-dev] Kudzu and Kudzu-Knoppix

2005-07-12 Thread Chris Gianelloni
These packages infuriate me, and quite frankly, I have no need for them
for release building.  Basically, I don't want to maintain them any
more.  I plan on adding a libkudzu ebuild, which will fulfill the
dependency for hwsetup, and drop kudzu and kudzu-knoppix from the tree
completely, unless some brave soul steps up to maintain these.  I figure
I'll be removing them around August 1st, so speak up if you want them,
otherwise, they are history.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Notice: Changing mozilla useflag to browserplugin for all Java runtimes

2005-07-12 Thread Aron Griffis
Karl,

Diego has mentioned that the nsplugins USE-flag already exists and
seems to duplicate browserplugin.  Additionally it is more appropriate
since it refers specifically to netscape-compatible plugins, which is
definitely what these are.  If there's another plugin format, it
probably shouldn't be handled by the same USE-flag.

I haven't seen a response from you regarding this.  What are your
thoughts?

Regards,
Aron

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Notice: Changing mozilla useflag to browserplugin for all Java runtimes

2005-07-12 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 11:41 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote:
 Karl,
 
 Diego has mentioned that the nsplugins USE-flag already exists and
 seems to duplicate browserplugin.  Additionally it is more appropriate
 since it refers specifically to netscape-compatible plugins, which is
 definitely what these are.  If there's another plugin format, it
 probably shouldn't be handled by the same USE-flag.
 
 I haven't seen a response from you regarding this.  What are your
 thoughts?

use nsplugin?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Notice: Changing mozilla useflag to browserplugin for all Java runtimes

2005-07-12 Thread Aron Griffis
Chris Gianelloni wrote:[Tue Jul 12 2005, 11:53:57AM EDT]
 On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 11:41 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote:
  Karl,
  
  ...
  
  What are your thoughts?
 
 use nsplugin?

Chris, since when are you Karl?  :-b

Regards,
Aron

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Notice: Changing mozilla useflag to browserplugin for all Java runtimes

2005-07-12 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 12:04 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote:
 Chris Gianelloni wrote:[Tue Jul 12 2005, 11:53:57AM EDT]
  On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 11:41 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote:
   Karl,
   
   ...
   
   What are your thoughts?
  
  use nsplugin?
 
 Chris, since when are you Karl?  :-b

D'oh... missed the Karl.

Sorry about that.  :P

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Re: [gentoo-dev] New MySQL doc

2005-07-12 Thread Michiel de Bruijne
On Tuesday 12 July 2005 06:38, Chris White wrote:
 Here's the initial devspace draft of the new MySQL draft I've been working
 on:

 http://dev.gentoo.org/~chriswhite/mysql.html

 Comments, etc are welcome.

This is a very good guide! Thanks a lot!!
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Notice: Changing mozilla useflag to browserplugin for all Java runtimes

2005-07-12 Thread Hanno Böck
Am Dienstag, 12. Juli 2005 19:10 schrieb Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò:
 I've done the change to nsplugin for media-video apps (gxine, vlc,
 helixplayer and realplayer).
 With that it makes more sense to have it global (5 nsplugin local flags
 just now).

I'll soon update freewrl, which has the same issue.

I also vote for nsplugin as a global useflag.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New category net-telephony

2005-07-12 Thread Ned Ludd
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 00:01 +0200, Stefan Knoblich wrote: 
 Hi,
 
 this has been a little longer on my ToDo list and i think now is the right 
 time to propose it
 (before starting to put asterisk-1.2(_pre) stuff into the tree...).
 
 Things that should be moved:

s/should/could


 and everything else telephony related that's missing here.
 
 Why net-telephony?
 Some of these things aren't purely (or enterely not) VoIP only e.g. asterisk, 
 zaptel and libpri
 (and more stuff being out there that wouldn't fit into a voip only category).

 Comments? Suggestions?


While as much as we love and depend on these programs. Moving them wont
really help anything other than making the tree slightly easier to
navigate by end users. This slight gain of category navigation comes at
a price in that it invalidates existing packages/GRP sets and causes
breakage for users that utilized overlays. One might think is that not
what fixpackages is supposed to fix. But sadly the existing fixpackages
is flawed in design which renders it pretty much usable to most.

I love these ebuilds but I hope you do not add net-telephony to the 
tree.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] MySQL doc [updated]

2005-07-12 Thread Chris White
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 08:48:50 -0400
Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As someone who has never used MySQL, but might want to in future,
 your help doc looks very useful: thanks for your efforts.

Not a problem.
 
 It does need running thro' a spell-checker  a careful proof-reading,
 which is always easier for someone else than for the author himself.

Yah, I know, the docs-team makes fun of me daily for it ;p.
 
 Someone has already pointed out that it's 'Structured', not 'Standard'.
 under '[code list] 1.4', why do we need a root password ?
   are you not setting this up as a user ? eg if I use MySQL,
   it will be to manage a large database of urban transit information,
   which I will do entirely inside my desktop machine
   with no access to other users or to the Internet [ok: I see Sect 4 below];

Fixed, init script does, actual admin login doesn't

 at the beginning of Sect 2 , you have 'promt';

Fixed

 below '2.1', you don't explain what database 'mysql' is for;

Don't see exactly where this is in reference to.

 below '2.3', let's us know sb [should be] lets us know;

Fixed

 under 'Creating the tables', it looks very much like a spreadsheet:
   perhaps you could point out the parallels;
   can you import data directly from a spreadsheet like Open Calc ?

Not sure if I quite understand this corectly.  Most spredsheet programs save to 
comma seperated files, which MySQL file loading requires tab seperated files.

 below '3.2', most simplistic sb simplest or most straightforward;

Fixed

 under '3.6', you should explain that you are using 'insert into'
   to insert a new record (if that's what it does), not arbitrary data;

Fixed

 under '3.7', seperated sb separated (other instances below):
   it's a trap for anyone who missed out on Latin at school (smile);

I was told that by someone else :P
Fixed

 under '3.10', you need to expand your explanation:
   if you paste information into your infile;

Fixed that + another seperation

 under '3.11', comprimised sb compromised:
   3.11-12 looks a bit out of place: perhaps move it below with a cross-ref ?

Fixed

 under '3.14', why do the columns not line up in your examples ?
   is this a deficiency in MySQL or a result of your desktop set-up ?

not sure what you mean there, they look fine to me

 under '3.16', priveleges  privleges sb privileges:
   this recurs several times below (grimace);

Twice in one paragraph, nice ;p
Fixed

 at the beginning of Sect 4 , the point about root versus users is explained:
   this sb mentioned briefly right at the top in Sect 1 ;

Actually, it's a root mysql account, not the system root, I made a note about 
that.

 under '4.3', i would write quitting, but perhaps US-speak is quiting;

Fixed

 under '4.8', is admin the same as root ? -- this needs explanation.

Clarified
 
 I've skipped over all the stuff about user privileges,
 as it looks as if my own usage would be as root in the MySQL sense (above).

Ok
 
 One final point you don't mention: is there a GUI front-end for MySQL ?
 I'm sure there is, so which one(s) do you recommend ?
 For myself, I'm happy to use CLI where it's simplest,
 but it looks as if a GUI would save a lot of typing injuries here.

Adding a section on that right now...  I'll post the new updated page in just a 
bit.
 
 HTH : it's meant to be picky (smile).

Sure, sure, just take away my freedom!!! ;)

 Your doc looks very helpful, but needs a bit of polishing  expansion.
 
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[gentoo-dev] New MySQL doc (update 3)

2005-07-12 Thread Chris White
Added a bazillion spell fixes, also a list of places to find GUI frontends for 
MySQL:

Thanks goes to my mom, my dad, my family for all their support
I'd also like to thank the academy for their hard effort
Philip Webb for tolerating my odd grammar/spelling/logic
Bruce Wolk for the same
And most importantly, I'd like to thank the fine folks at Speedy's dinner!

http://dev.gentoo.org/~chriswhite/mysql.html

Chris White


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