[gentoo-dev] Eclass subdirectory for x-modular.eclass

2005-12-09 Thread Joshua Baergen
In an attempt to patch all driver packages automatically, I've modified 
x-modular.eclass to do something along the lines of what elibtoolize 
does for its patching.  However, this would require the storage of a 
patch for x-modular.eclass, which I would intend to place in a 
subdirectory of eclass (my current choice is x-modular-files).


Am I allowed to create this subdirectory, or does this break 
policy/anything else I'm unaware of?


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Eclass subdirectory for x-modular.eclass

2005-12-09 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 12:13:08 -0700 Joshua Baergen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| In an attempt to patch all driver packages automatically, I've
| modified x-modular.eclass to do something along the lines of what
| elibtoolize does for its patching.  However, this would require the
| storage of a patch for x-modular.eclass, which I would intend to
| place in a subdirectory of eclass (my current choice is
| x-modular-files).
| 
| Am I allowed to create this subdirectory, or does this break 
| policy/anything else I'm unaware of?

Don't. ELT is a nasty hacky mess, you don't want to repeat that
mistake. Use SRC_URI instead.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Eclass subdirectory for x-modular.eclass

2005-12-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Joshua Baergen wrote:
In an attempt to patch all driver packages automatically, I've modified 
x-modular.eclass to do something along the lines of what elibtoolize 
does for its patching.  However, this would require the storage of a 
patch for x-modular.eclass, which I would intend to place in a 
subdirectory of eclass (my current choice is x-modular-files).


Am I allowed to create this subdirectory, or does this break 
policy/anything else I'm unaware of?


To be more clear for people who aren't familiar with elibtoolize -- it 
has a subdirectory eclass/ELT-patches/ that it keeps its patches in.


Thanks,
Donnie
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Eclass subdirectory for x-modular.eclass

2005-12-09 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Fri, 2005-12-09 at 12:13 -0700, Joshua Baergen wrote:
 In an attempt to patch all driver packages automatically, I've modified 
 x-modular.eclass to do something along the lines of what elibtoolize 
 does for its patching.  However, this would require the storage of a 
 patch for x-modular.eclass, which I would intend to place in a 
 subdirectory of eclass (my current choice is x-modular-files).
 
 Am I allowed to create this subdirectory, or does this break 
 policy/anything else I'm unaware of?
 

The only reason elibtoolize use this abortion from hell, is because it
needs to be working from day one.

Use ${P}-patches-{PVER}.tar.bz2, and set PVER (or whatever) before
inheriting the eclass.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Eclass subdirectory for x-modular.eclass

2005-12-09 Thread Joshua Baergen

Martin Schlemmer wrote:

Use ${P}-patches-{PVER}.tar.bz2, and set PVER (or whatever) before
inheriting the eclass.

  

Thanks, I will do that.

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[gentoo-dev] Modular X update

2005-12-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz

AREAS WE NEED HELP WITH:
1) Porting applications to modular X
2) Fixing descriptions for the vast majority of modular packages.


OK, it seems like we've now got issues resolved related to the new 
virtual/x11 package. Despite all the eyes that looked at it and all the 
publicity on lists and elsewhere, we still missed the lack of stable 
keywords in it, which caused some issues when the default virtual was 
pulled from the base profile. Thanks to axxo and flameeyes for dealing 
with this while I was at lunch.


Here's roughly how it all works:

1) Users with xorg-6.x installed will continue along happily, because 
6.x PROVIDES virtual/x11 on their systems.


2) Users with no X installed will pull in the virtual/x11 package 
because there is no longer a default virtual.


3) Users with xorg-7.x installed will need all their packages updated 
for modular dependencies. There is a porting guide at 
http://dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/xorg-x11/porting_to_modular_x_howto.txt 
 -- go ahead and run through it for your favorite packages, and file 
bugs to their maintainers with the updated dependencies.


One note for porting to modular: binary packages will require a script 
using ldd instead of one checking the compilation log. Petteri Räty has 
kindly made one available at 
http://dev.gentoo.org/~betelgeuse/scripts/checkdeps -- it depends on 
portage-utils.


While packages are being ported to modular X, you will be unable to 
upgrade any unported packages (so likely your 'world') without an entry 
in /etc/portage/profile/virtuals that emulates virtual/x11 using an 
installed package, e.g.:


virtual/x11 x11-base/xorg-x11

assuming you have the xorg-x11-7 metabuild installed.

I hope that covers pretty much everything right now.

Thanks for your patience,
Donnie
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[gentoo-dev] KDE + htdig

2005-12-09 Thread Renat Lumpau
Hello,

I am looking for help / advice to get KDE to work with htdig. I'm trying to fix
an old bug [1], but I'm not much of a KDE expert, and so far I've had no luck.
If you have any ideas and are willing to spend a few minutes helping me figure
out how to get khelpcenter and kdevelop to play nice with htdig, please reply to
me off-list or ping me on IRC.

[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28049

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for media-video/dvdrip

2005-12-09 Thread Luca Barbato

Mike Frysinger wrote:



so the video herd policy is to remove packages until you're left with
a small enough subset of packages you can handle ?
-mike


I'd rather say that we select packages that evolve and fit the needs and 
kill what isn't suitable anymore.


There are still many way to shoot your foot using a nice front-end to 
your transcoding tool of choice =)


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for media-video/dvdrip

2005-12-09 Thread Luca Barbato

Chandler Carruth wrote:



As a user currently, what steps could I take to help this package stay 
alive? I will take them as the alternative is to put an unofficial 
ebuild up on a webpage.




On my to be killed list I have

transcode 1
avifile

transcode 1 is already there and seems in good shape, if you can help us 
making sure dvdrip works fine with it we won't make transcode-0.6 bring 
it to the grave =)


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X update

2005-12-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Martin Schlemmer wrote:

Will need to do something about the default glu/opengl/xft virtuals as
well ... (you probably did not forget this, just double checking ...)


Yep.

From an email I sent in the past 24 hours:

Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 Done.

 I will probably do similar for the other x11 virtuals (particularly
 xft) soon, assuming this doesn't break too badly.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for media-video/dvdrip

2005-12-09 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 01:09:50AM +0100, Luca Barbato wrote:
 Mike Frysinger wrote:
 so the video herd policy is to remove packages until you're left with
 a small enough subset of packages you can handle ?
 
 I'd rather say that we select packages that evolve and fit the needs and 
 kill what isn't suitable anymore.

fair enough, but i thought we've establish that there are *no*
alternatives to dvdrip regardless of what diego may think
-mike
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for media-video/dvdrip

2005-12-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz

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Mike Frysinger wrote:
| so the video herd policy is to remove packages until you're left with
| a small enough subset of packages you can handle ?

Quite a contrast with the x11 herd policy: to add packages until there's
10x more than you can reasonably maintain.

Donnie
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Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-09 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 09:24:57PM +0100, Marius Mauch wrote:
 On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 23:49:59 +
 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  this is your [belated] reminder of the December council meeting.
  future reminders will not be late anymore ... we've proven that we
  cant remember it so i've gone ahead and crontab-ed future reminders
  to go out on the first :)
 
 Would be nice if you'd inform -dev when you change the meeting date
 again in the future, esp. when both the channel and the council project
 page still refer to the old date.

yet another reminder ...

council meeting: Dec 15th

current agenda:
portage hash funk decision asked by Marius

web page status:
UPDATED
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for media-video/dvdrip

2005-12-09 Thread Daniel Goller
On Friday 09 December 2005 08:19 pm, Mike Frysinger wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 01:09:50AM +0100, Luca Barbato wrote:
  Mike Frysinger wrote:
  so the video herd policy is to remove packages until you're left with
  a small enough subset of packages you can handle ?
 
  I'd rather say that we select packages that evolve and fit the needs and
  kill what isn't suitable anymore.

 fair enough, but i thought we've establish that there are *no*
 alternatives to dvdrip regardless of what diego may think
 -mike

well, it's maintained now, better slow progress than certain death, works too 
well for me to see it go


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