Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Google Summer of Code and Gentoo

2006-04-16 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:39:14 -0400
Thomas Cort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Alec Warner wrote:
 
 always portage portage portage. :)  Can't you people think of another
 project to pick on^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H that needs help?
   
 
 What about a Gentoo stats?

Hmm, maybe the server component could be used for such a project (I'm
already having most of the code for the client), I'll have to think
about this.

Marius
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[gentoo-dev] xorg-x11 and local (RgbPath) rgb.txt database files [informal survey]

2006-04-16 Thread Ferris McCormick

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For xorg-x11 (X11R6) users only,
  If you specify a local rgb database in your xorg.conf RgbPath entry, I'd 
be interested in hearing about it.  Also, why you need it would be 
interesting and useful information:  For example, My users and I prefer 
'jaune' to 'yellow', I need more (or different) color names than 
rgb.txt supplies, and so on.
  If this question means anything to you, you may use 
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130003 as background (or comment 
on the bug, for that matter).
  If the question doesn't mean anything to you, or if you use the default 
rgb.txt, no response needed.


Thanks,
Ferris

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for dev-util/cccc

2006-04-16 Thread foser
On Sat, 2006-04-15 at 14:24 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
 and it helps no one to go around cutting packages that have no outstanding 
 issues with them

Sure it helps keep Gentoo clean and up-to-date, the load of packages
that are outdated are often unmaintained as well. The one leads to the
other. Anyway, nobody would know about outstanding issues that popped
up, because there is no maintainer to assign them to.

 there was an outstanding issue with , but i resolved that

How do you know you resolved it, you don't get bugreports on it do you ?
I mean, you aren't the maintainer. And there is still the outstanding
issue that it is unmaintained in Gentoo, are you going to fix that or
not ? Otherwise it should be masked and removed.

- foser




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[gentoo-dev] New developer: Thomas Cort (tcort)

2006-04-16 Thread kloeri
Hi all.

Thomas Cort has recently joined the gentoo team to work on sound and
(more importantly) Alpha stuff :) He's been helping the alpha team for
quite a while already and doing a great job.

Thomas hails from Quebec, Canada and joins the already busy Canadian
conspiracy.

Give Thomas a warm welcome if you haven't already done so :)

Regards,
Bryan Østergaard

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for dev-util/cccc

2006-04-16 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 16 April 2006 11:17, foser wrote:
 On Sat, 2006-04-15 at 14:24 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
  and it helps no one to go around cutting packages that have no
  outstanding issues with them

 Sure it helps keep Gentoo clean and up-to-date, the load of packages
 that are outdated are often unmaintained as well. The one leads to the
 other. Anyway, nobody would know about outstanding issues that popped
 up, because there is no maintainer to assign them to.

and then people send out last-rites notices in those cases

  there was an outstanding issue with , but i resolved that

 How do you know you resolved it, you don't get bugreports on it do you ?

well the logical thing would be to go to bugzilla and search for  ... 
and guess what ?  no more open bug reports

 I mean, you aren't the maintainer. And there is still the outstanding
 issue that it is unmaintained in Gentoo, are you going to fix that or
 not ? Otherwise it should be masked and removed.

this is the same argument as already made and rejected ... feel free to mask 
and remove the hundreds of other packages that have no maintainer
-mike
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[gentoo-dev] New ebuild Developer: Christian Hartmann (ian!)

2006-04-16 Thread Danny van Dyk
Hi,

It is my pleasure to announce publicly that ian! has passed all 
necessary quizzes to touch our holy gra^H^H^H portage tree.

He'll be helping mcummings in his perpetuate combat with perl and its 
dependencies. May the source be with him.

Congratulations Christian! :-)

Danny
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Re: [gentoo-dev] New ebuild Developer: Christian Hartmann (ian!)

2006-04-16 Thread Curtis Napier
Danny van Dyk wrote:
 Hi,
 
 It is my pleasure to announce publicly that ian! has passed all 
 necessary quizzes to touch our holy gra^H^H^H portage tree.
 
 He'll be helping mcummings in his perpetuate combat with perl and its 
 dependencies. May the source be with him.
 
 Congratulations Christian! :-)
 
 Danny


Hooray for ian!

Congratulations.




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Re: [gentoo-dev] New ebuild Developer: Christian Hartmann (ian!)

2006-04-16 Thread Markus Ullmann
YaY, b0rkage will go away :)

Welcome ian
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Re: [gentoo-dev] New ebuild Developer: Christian Hartmann (ian!)

2006-04-16 Thread Daniel Goller
On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 01:15 +0200, Danny van Dyk wrote:
 Hi,
 
 It is my pleasure to announce publicly that ian! has passed all 
 necessary quizzes to touch our holy gra^H^H^H portage tree.
 
 He'll be helping mcummings in his perpetuate combat with perl and its 
 dependencies. May the source be with him.
 
 Congratulations Christian! :-)
 
 Danny
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congrats to mcummings


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Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Thomas Cort (tcort)

2006-04-16 Thread Olivier Fisette
On Sunday, 16 April 2006 02:24 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thomas hails from Quebec, Canada and joins the already busy Canadian
 conspiracy.

Another dev from Québec city! Welcome to the team, Thomas.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Thomas Cort (tcort)

2006-04-16 Thread Luis Medinas
On Sun, 2006-04-16 at 20:24 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 Thomas Cort has recently joined the gentoo team to work on sound and
 (more importantly) Alpha stuff :) He's been helping the alpha team for
 quite a while already and doing a great job.
 
 Thomas hails from Quebec, Canada and joins the already busy Canadian
 conspiracy.
 
 Give Thomas a warm welcome if you haven't already done so :)
 
Congrats again Thomas!!

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[gentoo-dev] aging ebuilds with unstable keywords

2006-04-16 Thread Daniel Ahlberg
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The page shows results from a number of tests that are run against the ebuilds. 
The tests are:
* if a version has been masked for 30 days or more.
* if an arch was in KEYWORDS in an older ebuild, but not in the newer ones.
* if SRC_URI contains hosts specified in thirdpartymirrors.
* if ebuild uses patch instead of epatch.
* if ebuild sets S to ${WORKDIR}/${P}.
* if ebuild redefines P, PV, PN or PF.
* if ebuild doesn't inherit eutils when it uses functions from eutils.
* if ebuild doesn't inherit flag-o-matic when it uses functions from 
flag-o-matic.
* if ebuild has $HOMEPAGE in SRC_URI (cosmetic).
* if ebuild has $PN in SRC_URI (cosmetic).
* if ebuild forces -fPIC flag to CFLAGS.
* if ebuild has deprecated WANT_AUTO(CONF|MAKE)_?_?.
* if ebuild uses is-flag -fPIC, should be changed to has_fpic.
* if ebuild appends $RDEPEND or $DEPEND to $RDEPEND or $DEPEND to $DEPEND.
* if ebuild has arch keyword(s) in iuse.
* if ebuild overrides MAKEOPTS.
* if ebuild has automake, autoconf or libtool in RDEPEND.
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* if ebuild installs COPYING and/or INSTALL into doc.

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[gentoo-dev] xorg-server 1.0.99/1.1 ABI break

2006-04-16 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Hi all,

Just wanted to make you aware that xorg-server 1.1 (and all release
candidates, including 1.0.99 and up) breaks the server-driver ABI from 1.0.

This means drivers are not compatible following an upgrade of
xorg-server, and both sides will require an update to work again properly.

This also means that all binary drivers (nvidia, ati, etc) will be
broken with xorg-server 1.1 and RC's until their upstream vendor
provides a compatible update.

Everything with the new ABI is currently masked, but when X.Org 7.1 is
released, will come out of package.mask.

We are working to ensure the dependencies work as smoothly as possible,
but I expect there will be some issues since it's difficult to require
updates to all these optional drivers following an update to the server.

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Outstanding decisions

2006-04-16 Thread Alec Warner

Simon Stelling wrote:

Hey all,

I'm just wading through a list of ~200 bugs of which some need decisions 
what
should be done, whether it should be done at all or simply whether it is 
a bug

or not.

Bug: SRC_URI: spaces not supported
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102607
Is this a 'NOTABUG' case?


Need to check the SRC_URI documentation, if it's noted there, then close 
it, if its not noted in the docs, add that spaces are not allowed and 
close it ;)




Bug: gpg: strict incorrectly takes priority over severe
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68906
What's the expected behaviour? Is it NOTABUG?

Bug: Method to monitor a package without installing/upgrading it
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47456
Same thing. Do we want this?



Alternative tool.


Bug: Support for a pre-compile pkg_config
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99529
As Jason mentioned: Is this worth the effort?


Effort is minimal, but I'm unsure of the real usefulness.



Bug: per profile package.keywords
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55321
Voting seems to be a bit... incomplete ;)


This is down to a design issue.  package.keywords is a repository 
control measure, do we currently allow profiles to mess with repos? 
Only via use.mask at present.  profile mangling of a repository is 
difficult when multiple repositories are brought in because we really 
don't have any type of repo binding in the current source.  I personally 
think it's an important feature, but it's difficult to not implement it 
in a half assed manner.




Bug: Wording These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112439
This needs a decision too. What wording do we prefer? Either way, the 
bug should

be closed, the fix is trivial in case we want to change it.


Ummm someone just make a decision, I don't think it's that big a deal.



Bug: global exception handling
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28535
Should tracebacks be thrown in the users' face or not?



Yes, Not saying you shouldn't write code that catches exceptions and all 
that but writing stupid code that catches any exception and then tries 
to print some useful info is...not as useful.  I'd prefer to have 
documented a bit more what functions throw ( docstrings )? so that when 
users use portage functionality they know what to catch.


Bug: /usr/lib/portage/bin/clean_locks documentation example could make 
use use

DISTDIR
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116676
Call portageq or not? Voting time ;)

nfc :0



That should be enough for the moment. More will probably follow, 
considering
that I only checked the first 60 bugs or so :/ It would be nice if we 
could make
the needed decision and then close the bugs where it is 
NOTABUG/INVALID/LATER. I

hate stale bug listings ;)



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Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Outstanding decisions

2006-04-16 Thread Simon Stelling

Next bunch of bugs that need a decision:

Bug: portage: emerge unmerge ... should stop in case of an error
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118515
Another WONTFIX/WILLFIX issue

Bug: need a way to package.unmask packages in profiles
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118440
Is this LATER? Alec mentioned a patch, but i couldn't find it when grepping 
through my archives, and nothing is attached to the bug.


Bug: emerge/ebuild - a bit more verbosity please
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67892
This obviously lacks any discussion. RFC :)

Bug: Support for src_test deps required
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69021
WONTFIX/WILLFIX?

Bug: no documentation on the elog functions
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116018
AFAICS it's documented in make.conf.example and man make.conf, but the user 
requested a howto. Is a howto really needed? IMHO it's not that complex...


Bug: Split CONFIG_PROTECT into separate installing and uninstalling options 
(nuke untouched files)

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8423
The classical one with a huge CC list. Whatever decision is made, this finally 
needs to get (fixed and) closed.


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