[gentoo-dev] Re: Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-19 Thread Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer
Tach Hanno,  0x2B859DE3 (PGP-PK-ID)

Hanno Böck schrieb:
 I'm all for making more use of features like test and collision-protect,
 though in the past I noticed that many devs don't seem to care much. I
 even think to remember of bugs getting closed invalid with a we don't
 care about-comment. But if FEATURES=test is considered more importand
 in the future, I'll continue bugging you with related bugs.

 I would also recommend all ATs not only FEATURES=collision-protect but  
also to activated the test suites.  I normally report failing tests on all  
bugs I test (which are a few :), but these tests are sometimes to  
dependent on specific versions of other packages or the environment they  
nearly have no use.

 However I think we have a long way to go till we can even think of
 enabling it by default.

 Right.



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[gentoo-dev] [treecleaner] Last rites: net-irc/dancer-ircd

2006-08-19 Thread Christian Heim
The net-irc/dancer-ircd package is pending removal as requested in bug #72691
for dead upstream [1].

The package is currently masked and is pending removal on 16th September.

[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72691

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[gentoo-dev] [treecleaner] app-admin/scotty has been removed

2006-08-19 Thread Christian Heim
The app-admin/scotty package has been removed. This is closing the following
open bug(s):

  #77501: Sandbox Access Violation when emerging scotty 2.1.11

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for cleaning portage a bit (themes and other eyecandy stuff)

2006-08-19 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:11:47 -0400 Michael Cummings
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
|  On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:44:04 -0700 Donnie Berkholz
|  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  | What would be more interesting is something like
|  | app-portage/g-cpan for various themes sites. This way, individual
|  | themes wouldn't need to get packaged and maintained.
|  
|  If anyone's looking to experiment with this kind of thing... Paludis
|  supports multiple repository formats. We're already supporting CRAN,
|  and we might do CPAN, 
| 
| really? i thought you told me in irc we weren't worth it or something
| like that...honestly not trying to troll or incite flame, you gather
| enough of that, but last we spoke about incorporating g-cpan like
| functionality into paludis on irc, it wasn't worth your time (choice
| expletives were used). from the gist of that conversation, paludis was
| not up to this job if the repository didn't fit some rather strict
| guidelines.

You're missing context. There were a number of things that were being
considered for development 'right now', so to speak, and CPAN was
originally one of them. But because of CPAN's icky dependency handling
and conflicts with tree things, it's been moved to 'something we'll do
if we find someone who knows Paludis and CPAN and who is prepared to
stick in lots of effort'.

The biggie with CPAN is that it appears to be rather tricky to figure
out dependencies at dependency resolution time. With CRAN, for example,
dependencies are listed up front, so there's no problem or performance
issue making 'paludis --install --pretend some-cran-package' display a
full correct dep list. Getting this working with CPAN doesn't seem to
be a weekend job...

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for cleaning portage a bit (themes and other eyecandy stuff)

2006-08-19 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Samstag, 19. August 2006 04:11 schrieb Michael Cummings:
 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
  On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:44:04 -0700 Donnie Berkholz
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  | What would be more interesting is something like
  | app-portage/g-cpan for various themes sites. This way, individual
  | themes wouldn't need to get packaged and maintained.
 
  If anyone's looking to experiment with this kind of thing...
  Paludis supports multiple repository formats. We're already
  supporting CRAN, and we might do CPAN,

 really? i thought you told me in irc we weren't worth it or something
 like that...honestly not trying to troll or incite flame, you gather
 enough of that, but last we spoke about incorporating g-cpan like
 functionality into paludis on irc, it wasn't worth your time (choice
 expletives were used). from the gist of that conversation, paludis
 was not up to this job if the repository didn't fit some rather
 strict guidelines.
Actually, the conversation was more like:

 ciaran) What do we do next? CPAN? CTAN?
 kugelfang) let's ask mcummings for CPAN help. The deps can't be easily
resolved iirc.
 mcummings) no other way, meta.yml isn't always there, and even
g-cpan.pl needs several runs, and might even get the deps
not correctly.
 ciaran) screw it then.
 kugelfang) CTAN? no deps at all.
 ciaran) screw it.

From my POV those screw it were related to 'what do we do next', and 
not CPAN. Especially as CPAN wasn't the only option in consideration.

In regard to the to the 'strict guidelines' and 'paludis not up to the 
job'. We _could_ implement it, but none of the possible implementations 
is really elegant. We considered these possibilites:
* using an external repo, that autogenerates the dep information _after
  downloading all of CPAN_. (yes, that would be necessary)
* g-cpan mode of autogenerating the builds, where the distfiles need to 
be downloaded recursively at dep-resolution time.

Just to get the facts straight.

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[gentoo-dev] New Forums Staff : jmbsvicetto

2006-08-19 Thread Shyam Mani
Hi Everyone,


Please welcome our latest forums staff, Jorge Vicetto aka jmbsvicetto.

Here's an intro from him :

I was born at Terceira Island, Azores. I've completed high school at
Terceira and attended the computer and information science programme at
the Portuguese College IST (Higher Technical Institute) at Lisbon. I've
later returned to Terceira where I started working as a net/sys admin
while completing a B.Sc. in Computer and Information Science with UMUC -
University of Maryland University College. I've got my B.S. on June
2004. I was accepted for the M.Sc. in Internet Computing at the
University of Liverpool on September 2005, having transfered to the M.
Sc. in Information Technology (specialisation in Information Security).
Currently, for personnal reasons, I've suspended my enrollment on the
programme.

I've been working at the Angra do Heroísmo Nursing School since
September 1999 as a net/sys admin and consultant to the Director's
board. I've also worked as a consultant for the Azorean Health Finantial
Institute for 1 year and a half. I'm currently also working since
October 2004 to the Angra do Heroísmo Hospital as net/sys admin and
consultant.

I started working with Linux around 1996. The first distribution I used
was Slackware, probably 3.1. I then used 2 or 3 versions of Red Hat
starting at 4.0 and including 5.2. I later switched to SuSE and used
versions 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 6.3, 7.0, 7.1, 8.0 and 9.0. From there I
switched to Gentoo in March 2004 with the 2004.0 release. I think I
tried the 1.4 release, although I'm not sure. I also tried FC1 and FC2,
but never used it for long. I've since then used openSuSE 10.X at work.
I also run SLES 9.0 at work. For recovery and testing I've used several
versions of knoppix and sysresccd.

I spend most of my time at work around the 2k/2k03 AD, doing the usual
user, group and permissions management; looking over the network; taking
care of the webmail and proxy servers; and creating, updating and
maintaining our workstations. I've designed and helped implement the
network at the Nursing School and was assigned to accompany the
implementation of the network at the Hospital. I've designed and
implemented the AD at both places. I've used Ghost and G4U to create the
workstations for both places. I'm currently implementing park management
with OCS_NG and GLPI. I keep a Postfix+Cyrus+Horde system for webmail
and am currently switching it over to Gentoo. Throughout the years I've
been maintaining systems running Oracle and Notes. I've also been
running VMware GSX and now ESX Server.

So, throw up the usual parties, say hello when you meet him and make him
feel at home :)

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-dev] New Forums Staff : jmbsvicetto

2006-08-19 Thread Peter Gordon
Shyam Mani wrote:
[...]
 So, throw up the usual parties, say hello when you meet him and make him
 feel at home :)

So it's official now? Yay! Welcome aboard, Jorge! :D
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Re: [gentoo-dev] New Forums Staff : jmbsvicetto

2006-08-19 Thread Luis Medinas
On Sun, 2006-08-20 at 00:44 +0530, Shyam Mani wrote:
 Hi Everyone,
 
 
 Please welcome our latest forums staff, Jorge Vicetto aka jmbsvicetto.
Bem Vindo Jorge!!

I wish you good luck and don't kill my posts on forums.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] New Forums Staff : jmbsvicetto

2006-08-19 Thread Mark Kowarsky

 Please welcome our latest forums staff, Jorge Vicetto aka jmbsvicetto.
   

/me hugs Jorge.  Glad to have you on board.

Mark



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