Re: [gentoo-dev] make_desktop_entry in eutils.eclass
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: local desktop_file=$(make_desktop_entry -v ...) || die semi-unrelated, this die will never be called by design, use of the local keyword overrides the exit status of the subshell in the assignment ... you'd need to write it: local desktop_file; desktop_file=$(make_desktop_entry -v ...) || die -mike pgpK63kx9l7iE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass
On Thursday 01 February 2007 18:48, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 01 February 2007, Daniel Black wrote: Also creates the following symlinks to it i dont see much value in these symlinks ... what do they gain us ? An easy way to find the closest config when merging a revision/version bump of the same package. There are probably some cleaner ways with portage foo. I see your point that it is a weak reason for symlinks to exist. The hard work should be done by the eclass to find the closest config. As some packages, like uclibc, have regular cross compile functionality which require separate config files for each host. This can be achieved with the -s option. i dont think the ebuild should care whether it's being cross-compiled ... any package should be cross-compilable so the ebuild should really be agnostic in other words, the search path for the .config should always check $CTARGET subdirs followed by $CHOST followed by the normal $CATEGORY Sure, makes sense. So clarifying by default the save_config will store it in normal $CATEGORY and allow the user to move it into under specific $CTARGET or $CHOST directory if that is their desire. -mike -- Daniel Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Foundation pgpEiqgUFRzCx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass
On Thursday 01 February 2007 18:55, Brian Harring wrote:
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:21:01PM +1100, Daniel Black wrote:
Fellow devs,
WARN_CONFIG
warn_config (useflags)
warns the user that the useflags have been overridden by savedconfig
Anything else?
overriding use flags by a secondary configuration is a mess waiting to
happen... needs actual integration in some fashion imo, rather then
well... you probably should define it in both since it may ignore
it.
So some foo that says:
die you have enabled X USE flag but your saved config reflects the X USE flag
been unset. Please correct your saved config by setting GUI=yes
in /etc/portage/savedconfig/${CATEGORY}/${PXXX}/config.h or unset the USE
flag X.
Suggested implementation?
Goes without saying, ignoring manager forced use configuration also
means crap/missing deps are thus possible...
Yes. So a consistant USE flags/savedconfig is highly desireable.
Feel free to clarify that little snippet ;)
~harring
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Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Daniel Black wrote:
On Thursday 01 February 2007 18:48, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Daniel Black wrote:
Also creates the following symlinks to it
i dont see much value in these symlinks ... what do they gain us ?
An easy way to find the closest config when merging a revision/version bump
of the same package. There are probably some cleaner ways with portage foo.
yeah ... i think if the user wants a .config to apply to all versions, then
they name it ${PN} ... if they want to have certain versions have certain
configs, then those would be ${P}
i think the busybox ebuild does this scan already and it boils down to a
pretty simple for loop ... {${PF},${P},${PN}}
-mike
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Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Daniel Black wrote:
So some foo that says:
die you have enabled X USE flag but your saved config reflects the X USE
flag been unset. Please correct your saved config by setting GUI=yes
in /etc/portage/savedconfig/${CATEGORY}/${PXXX}/config.h or unset the USE
flag X.
problem i have with this is that you have to enumerate what could be a ton of
options and bind them to the appropriate USE flag
easier to just say USE=savedconfig overrides everything else
-mike
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[gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February
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[gentoo-dev] Gentoo standard UIDs
Hi there, I've recently written an ebuild for a package that needs to create an user, and I have several questions regarding this issue. Is there anywhere I can find the list of standard UIDs/GIDs used in Gentoo? Is there any kind of linux/unix standard regarding this? I've been googling for this, but although there seems to be some type of convention regarding reservation of UIDs in some range (0-100, 0-500, 0-999 in useradd man page), there doesn't seem to be anything resembling a standard. I've also noticed that each distribution seems to use their own list of reserved UIDs/GIDs. I also took a look at http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/users-and-groups/index.html, and there they say that you shouldn't hard code the UID/GID, so does enewuser use some kind of algorithm to keep the new UID/GIDs in a given range? Can I be sure that a UID generated by enewuser won't collide with some range I reserve for non system users? Thanks in advance, best regards Jose
Re: [gentoo-dev] make_desktop_entry in eutils.eclass
Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote:
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:30:53 -0500, Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
about the only thing that'd work is an additional parameter called
cruft that'd be passed unfiltered into the .desktop file
You can also imagine a -v switch, which would make this function print
the full path (with its $D prefix) of the file.desktop it has created.
This way, people could do:
src_install() {
...
local desktop_file=$(make_desktop_entry -v ...) || die
echo MimeType=... ${desktop_file}
...
}
I don't say this solution is better than the cruft parameter though,
it's really a matter of taste.
Nice. I like this idea, and humbly request that someone implement it
in this way, or give me permission to do so.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo standard UIDs
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 15:55 +0100, José González Gómez wrote: Hi there, I've recently written an ebuild for a package that needs to create an user, and I have several questions regarding this issue. Is there anywhere I can find the list of standard UIDs/GIDs used in Gentoo? There is GLEP 27 but I do not believe any official action has been taken to implement said GLEP. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0027.html I inquired about it several months back on irc, but can't recall the details at this time. Pretty sure it's not implemented yet, but there might be some efforts in that direction. Anyone else have info on this? -- William L. Thomson Jr. Gentoo/Java signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo standard UIDs
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 10:26:49 -0500 William L. Thomson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I inquired about it several months back on irc, but can't recall the details at this time. Pretty sure it's not implemented yet, but there might be some efforts in that direction. http://svn.pioto.org/viewvc/creandus/ http://svn.pioto.org/viewvc/creandus-overlay/ -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo standard UIDs
José González Gómez wrote: Is there anywhere I can find the list of standard UIDs/GIDs used in Gentoo? There is / was such a list in CVS[1] at some point, thought it is far from complete or current. I also took a look at http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/users-and-groups/index.html, and there they say that you shouldn't hard code the UID/GID, so does enewuser use some kind of algorithm to keep the new UID/GIDs in a given range? Can I be sure that a UID generated by enewuser won't collide with some range I reserve for non system users? You can pass -1 as the uid parameter to enewuser. In this case, it will search for the first free uid between 101 and 999, inclusive. This will be much nicer / easier to do once I finish my[2] GLEP 27[3] implementation... [1] http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-src/eid_database/ [2] http://soc.pioto.org/ [3] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0027.html -- Mike Kelly signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February
Vapier wrote: [Wed Jan 31 2007, 11:30:01PM CST] If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev list to see. Care to weigh-in on the tr1 issue? Due to the lack of really good ideas, it may be that a not-so-good one will need to be enacted by fiat. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgp0vUValY5Wz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass
Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Daniel Black wrote:
So some foo that says:
die you have enabled X USE flag but your saved config reflects the X USE
flag been unset. Please correct your saved config by setting GUI=yes
in /etc/portage/savedconfig/${CATEGORY}/${PXXX}/config.h or unset the USE
flag X.
problem i have with this is that you have to enumerate what could be a ton of
options and bind them to the appropriate USE flag
easier to just say USE=savedconfig overrides everything else
-mike
But at that point the manager has little or no control over the package,
hell you can move the savedconfigs out of /etc/portage/ cause they have
nothing to do with it at all.
You can't do use-deps with this, because you can't effectively enumerate
what a savedconfig build will actually build with (assumining
savedconfig is enabled for that package) since the manager's choices
will just get over-ridden. The PM would be required to essentially scan
the savedconfig and parse them into an internal package config state.
And from a PM point of view that blows ;)
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It's my pleasure to introduce to you Martin Jackson (also known as mjolnir40k - on IRC at least) our latest addition joining the netmon herd. Martin is joining from Northwest Arkansas (that's in USA). He's working in the IT-field for a well-known company (hopefully it doesn't start with I and ends with BM). He states to have major experience with perl (7+ years), bash scripting, python and C programming. He's also a FreeBSD ports maintainer. He's luckily married to a non-geekish wife (is that even possible, while being married to a geek?) for 12 years now, has three children (boy, am I lucky I don't have children). When he's away from his computer he's trying to read standard geek stuff (like Adams, Tolkien and Stephenson) and is a big fan of classical and norse mythology. Please welcome Martin as a new fellow developer among us ! -- Christian Heim phreak at gentoo.org GPG key ID: 9A9F68E6 Fingerprint: AEC4 87B8 32B8 4922 B3A9 DF79 CAE3 556F 9A9F 68E6 pgpTvIqCiQIYy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February
Mike Frysinger wrote: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev list to see. I would like the council to discuss if we should have a policy on how long to wait for a developer to respond to a non critical bug before you can fix it yourself. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-dev] Re: New developer: Martin Jackson (mjolnir)
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[gentoo-dev] New developer: Dean Stephens (desultory)
It's my pleasure to introduce to you Dean Stephens (also known as desultory) our latest addition joining the forums monkeys. Dean is joining us from Bangor (that's in Maine). Don't know anything else about him, so feel free to harass him on IRC. So please welcome Dean as a new fellow developer among us ! -- Christian Heim phreak at gentoo.org GPG key ID: 9A9F68E6 Fingerprint: AEC4 87B8 32B8 4922 B3A9 DF79 CAE3 556F 9A9F 68E6 pgpPEJX1RmWCd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 04:50:20 -0500 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | easier to just say USE=savedconfig overrides everything else Which means no dep resolution... -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail: ciaranm at ciaranm.org Web : http://ciaranm.org/ Paludis, the secure package manager : http://paludis.pioto.org/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:36:29 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I would like the council to discuss if we should have a policy on how | long to wait for a developer to respond to a non critical bug before | you can fix it yourself. Wouldn't that depend highly upon the bug? -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail: ciaranm at ciaranm.org Web : http://ciaranm.org/ Paludis, the secure package manager : http://paludis.pioto.org/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass
Daniel Black schrieb: Fellow devs, [...] Ebuilds that already have their implementation of savedconfig: sys-apps/busybox sys-libs/uclibc x11-wm/dwm x11-misc/dmenu Other potential candidates: net-misc/dropbear [2] app-emulation/mol app-shells/tcsh dev-libs/klibc dev-lang/ccc mail-mta/sendmail net-dialup/isdn4k-utils net-im/kadu net-irc/cyclone net-wireless/wpa_supplicant sys-boot/netboot sys-libs/uclibc++ www-apache/mod_* net-misc/asterisk net-misc/zaptel dev-lang/php sys-kernel/*? Or perhaps genkernel? Being able to build kernel images just like any other package in Gentoo would be nice. Regards, Thomas -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] tr1 dependencies
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:26:06 + Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | virtual/tr1-memory | virtual/tr1-unordered-containers | virtual/tr1-random | virtual/tr1-regex | | Rather a lot of work, and rather icky... Looking at this some more... We're probably talking about needing the following new style virtuals: tr1-utilities (tuples and smart pointers) tr1-containers (array and unordered associative containers) tr1-call-wrappers (mem_fn, reference_wrapper, function, bind) tr1-type-traits tr1-numerics tr1-regex tr1-c-compatibility The category names match up with the chapter names in The C++ Standard Library Extensions (Pete Becker / Addison Wesley / 0-321-41299-0). In terms of providers: g++-4.1 has utilities, containers, call-wrappers and type-traits. g++-4.2 adds c-compatibility and numerics. boost has utilities, containers, call-wrappers, type-traits, numerics and regex, but in the wrong namespaces. There's a boost tr1 wrapper being developed, and everything I've seen that uses tr1 so far includes the namespace using wrappers to make boost an option. Also note that boost focuses more upon getting stuff to work with every single compiler than upon decent performance or making things not take weeks to compile -- most boost headers pull in several megs of other header files, which *really* hurts compile times. There are already quite a few packages out there using utilities and containers. So far tr2 isn't sufficiently standardised to be relevant to this discussion. -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail: ciaranm at ciaranm.org Web : http://ciaranm.org/ Paludis, the secure package manager : http://paludis.pioto.org/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:36:29 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I would like the council to discuss if we should have a policy on how | long to wait for a developer to respond to a non critical bug before | you can fix it yourself. Wouldn't that depend highly upon the bug? It would but having some kind of deadline after which you are for example free to take over the package if you want to would be nice. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] make_desktop_entry in eutils.eclass
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Jim Ramsay wrote: Nice. I like this idea, and humbly request that someone implement it in this way, or give me permission to do so. that assumes format limitations ... an additional cruft argument would be more likely to be merged -mike pgpGG8puWkLxF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Alec Warner wrote: But at that point the manager has little or no control over the package, hell you can move the savedconfigs out of /etc/portage/ cause they have nothing to do with it at all. You can't do use-deps with this, because you can't effectively enumerate what a savedconfig build will actually build with (assumining savedconfig is enabled for that package) since the manager's choices will just get over-ridden. The PM would be required to essentially scan the savedconfig and parse them into an internal package config state. And from a PM point of view that blows ;) how does any of this ever really matter in the bigger scheme ? the point is that you can never effectively enumerate the options to the pm, so just stop getting in the user's way and let them fully customize the package -mike pgp87yDKwCdI3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Petteri Räty wrote: It would but having some kind of deadline after which you are for example free to take over the package if you want to would be nice. uhh this is certainly no good ... i wouldnt want someone looking at an old bug and going shit he hasnt fixed it, this package is now MINE i feel like a little more communication between people would address this ... you want to help fix a bug package, ask the maintainer if it's ok this isnt for dealing with MIA devs -mike pgpnx6j1RCjiU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Martin Jackson (mjolnir)
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Christian Heim wrote: He's also a FreeBSD ports maintainer. Hey fresh meat for me then? :) Welcome Martin, and you sure are welcome to join the Gentoo/FreeBSD if you want :) -- Diego Flameeyes Pettenò - http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/ Gentoo/Alt lead, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, Sound, ALSA, PAM, KDE, CJK, Ruby ... pgpdURO1ARQrB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Dean Stephens (desultory)
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Christian Heim wrote: Dean is joining us from Bangor (that's in Maine). Don't know anything else about him, so feel free to harass him on IRC. Welcome Dean... but where Maine is? And more to the point, which Maine is? Is the one in the key world? -- Diego Flameeyes Pettenò - http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/ Gentoo/Alt lead, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, Sound, ALSA, PAM, KDE, CJK, Ruby ... pgpN3gmtzbcbo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Dean Stephens (desultory)
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 21:37:05 +0100 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 01 February 2007, Christian Heim wrote: Dean is joining us from Bangor (that's in Maine). Don't know anything else about him, so feel free to harass him on IRC. Welcome Dean... but where Maine is? And more to the point, which Maine is? Is the one in the key world? Nice Dark Tower reference, albeit written in almost completely incoherent English. -Steve signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 01 February 2007, Alec Warner wrote: But at that point the manager has little or no control over the package, hell you can move the savedconfigs out of /etc/portage/ cause they have nothing to do with it at all. You can't do use-deps with this, because you can't effectively enumerate what a savedconfig build will actually build with (assumining savedconfig is enabled for that package) since the manager's choices will just get over-ridden. The PM would be required to essentially scan the savedconfig and parse them into an internal package config state. And from a PM point of view that blows ;) how does any of this ever really matter in the bigger scheme ? the point is that you can never effectively enumerate the options to the pm, so just stop getting in the user's way and let them fully customize the package -mike Because then you get fun things like package.provided where people inject a randomly configured package that fails PM tests (aka built_with_use). You'd have to have some sort of tautology that says provided packages (and crazyconfig packages) always pass any checks (such as built_with_use, but could be other checks as well) and then just fail during build if they don't. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Martin Jackson (mjolnir)
Please welcome Martin as a new fellow developer among us ! Welcome to Gentoo and netmon in particular. May your free time be filled with many solved bug reports, version bumps, and better integration activities. -- Daniel Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Foundation pgpdhj1tgAqwk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Dean Stephens (desultory)
On Friday 02 February 2007 06:02, Christian Heim wrote: It's my pleasure to introduce to you Dean Stephens (also known as desultory) our latest addition joining the forums monkeys. Dean is joining us from Bangor (that's in Maine). Don't know anything else about him, so feel free to harass him on IRC. The good thing about the Gentoo community is there is so many mediums to harass you. Its all about choice after all. So please welcome Dean as a new fellow developer among us ! Welcome. -- Daniel Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Foundation pgppr2IEnyiqK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Alec Warner wrote: Because then you get fun things like package.provided where people inject a randomly configured package that fails PM tests (aka built_with_use). You'd have to have some sort of tautology that says provided packages (and crazyconfig packages) always pass any checks (such as built_with_use, but could be other checks as well) and then just fail during build if they don't. leave it as an exercise for the user to make sure they set package.use to match their .config -mike pgpH5ZT62BjKV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Dean Stephens (desultory)
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Stephen P. Becker wrote: Nice Dark Tower reference, albeit written in almost completely incoherent English. That's my engrish for you, I never said I was good at that :P -- Diego Flameeyes Pettenò - http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/ Gentoo/Alt lead, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, Sound, ALSA, PAM, KDE, CJK, Ruby ... pgpRPNqbI3feQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass
On Friday 02 February 2007 06:27, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 04:50:20 -0500 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | easier to just say USE=savedconfig overrides everything else Which means no dep resolution... USE flags are still used for dependencies. On Thursday 01 February 2007, Daniel Black wrote: The savedconfig configuration control does NOT aim to: - replace the USE flag determination of dependencies It will be possible to configure an option that conflicts with a USE flag in some cases. Given the grief that would be caused by trying to determine this on every package that uses savedconfig it really isn't worth it. Having said that there are 2 pseudo options here: make USE=SAVEDCONFIG capitalised so that it looks and is assumed to be dominate. ewarn You have modified the saved configuration of this package. I assume you have set your USE flags to include the appropriate dependencies and/or emerged the dependencies already. -- Daniel Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Foundation pgp821Hc5OAs6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:18:22 -0500 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Thursday 01 February 2007, Alec Warner wrote: | Because then you get fun things like package.provided where people | inject a randomly configured package that fails PM tests (aka | built_with_use). You'd have to have some sort of tautology that | says provided packages (and crazyconfig packages) always pass any | checks (such as built_with_use, but could be other checks as well) | and then just fail during build if they don't. | | leave it as an exercise for the user to make sure they set | package.use to match their .config I'm all for letting users do stupid things if they really want, but isn't this like sticking up a deliberately wonky staircase with no handrails over an open vat of evil super villain acid with a sign saying free cookies at the top? -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail: ciaranm at ciaranm.org Web : http://ciaranm.org/ Paludis, the secure package manager : http://paludis.pioto.org/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:18:22 -0500 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | On Thursday 01 February 2007, Alec Warner wrote: | Because then you get fun things like package.provided where people | inject a randomly configured package that fails PM tests (aka | built_with_use). You'd have to have some sort of tautology that | says provided packages (and crazyconfig packages) always pass any | checks (such as built_with_use, but could be other checks as well) | and then just fail during build if they don't. | | leave it as an exercise for the user to make sure they set | package.use to match their .config I'm all for letting users do stupid things if they really want, but isn't this like sticking up a deliberately wonky staircase with no handrails over an open vat of evil super villain acid with a sign saying free cookies at the top? i do like cookies, but i dont really think this is a big deal generating your own .config isnt exactly a trivial thing, so if you're going through all the effort of doing so, then it isnt unreasonable to expect the person to understand the system USE=savedconfig enables only the searching of the .config; if it doesnt exist the process is skipped -mike pgpkl4yYp6D3Y.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 22:19:57 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:36:29 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I would like the council to discuss if we should have a policy on how | long to wait for a developer to respond to a non critical bug before | you can fix it yourself. Wouldn't that depend highly upon the bug? It would but having some kind of deadline after which you are for example free to take over the package if you want to would be nice. That's going too far; there's certainly no need to take over a package just to get a fix in. If you want to take over a package, asking the current maintainer has to be the first step, not to quietly wait for a timeout then just grab it. Similarly asking the current maintainer if they mind you putting a fix in. If that approach doesn't succeed, it should then be put in the hands of devrel to arbitrate. I don't see that anything more is needed. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-dev] Re: eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass
Thomas Rösner [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:46:41 +0100: sys-kernel/*? Or perhaps genkernel? Being able to build kernel images just like any other package in Gentoo would be nice. But with make oldconfig, so the user gets asked about new options, and those get saved back to the savedconfig, right? -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Duncan wrote: But with make oldconfig, so the user gets asked about new options, and those get saved back to the savedconfig, right? i'd say no myself ... or you'd have to add RESTRICT=interactive to the eclass -mike pgpskbKKCx4pW.pgp Description: PGP signature
