[gentoo-dev] Re: New developer: Wulf C. Krueger (Philantrop)

2007-04-09 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Wulf hails from Altrip, Germany. It seems the German conspiracy just
> keeps growing and growing. Wulf is going to work on KDE so don't be
> surprised if you see him talking about Dolphins and Solids in
> #gentoo-dev.

 At least KDE got some backup...

Welcome.

V-Li


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Re: [gentoo-dev] doenvd vs. insinto /etc/env.d

2007-04-09 Thread Doug Goldstein
Doug Goldstein wrote:
> Mike Frysinger wrote:
>> On Monday 09 April 2007, Petteri Räty wrote:
>>> Marcelo Góes kirjoitti:
 I just did a quick grep of the tree and found 129 ebuilds that
 use doenvd and 134 that use insinto /etc/env.d.
>>> There are probably also lot of things using insinto /etc/init.d and
>>> /etc/conf.d too that should be fixed.
>> yep ... reason the {do,new}{init,conf}d functions were implemented
>> -mike
> 
> Stupid question... what's the diff between doconfd and newconfd?
> 

Ha.. I remember now... Thanks robbat2 for kicking me in the head to jog
my memory...

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Re: [gentoo-dev] doenvd vs. insinto /etc/env.d

2007-04-09 Thread Doug Goldstein
Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Monday 09 April 2007, Petteri Räty wrote:
>> Marcelo Góes kirjoitti:
>>> I just did a quick grep of the tree and found 129 ebuilds that
>>> use doenvd and 134 that use insinto /etc/env.d.
>> There are probably also lot of things using insinto /etc/init.d and
>> /etc/conf.d too that should be fixed.
> 
> yep ... reason the {do,new}{init,conf}d functions were implemented
> -mike

Stupid question... what's the diff between doconfd and newconfd?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] base packages up for grabs

2007-04-09 Thread Ned Ludd
On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 13:36 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > three of those should be a cake walk ... mkinitrd is a friggin mess though, 
> > so 
> > after you check the open bugs on it, i dont feel bad if you change your 
> > mind 
> > on it


> Maybe I will take it over, then decide it's obsolete and send out a 
> removal notice. =)

Please keep it around. embedded users used to find it a handy pkg. 
initramfs seems to be be winning users over however these days.
It (mkinitrd) only ever had 12 bugs ever, 2 of which are currently open 
and one of those has an attached patch. In reality it should be fairly 
trivial to maintain.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] base packages up for grabs

2007-04-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Mike Frysinger wrote:
three of those should be a cake walk ... mkinitrd is a friggin mess though, so 
after you check the open bugs on it, i dont feel bad if you change your mind 
on it


Maybe I will take it over, then decide it's obsolete and send out a 
removal notice. =)


Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: base packages up for grabs

2007-04-09 Thread Peter Weller
On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 20:19:23 -0600
Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > working here is no longer fun
> 
> * HUGZ *
> 
> 
> 

Hoi! Giving hugs is a right reserved by me and me only! :P

/me hugs Mike
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[gentoo-dev] Last rites: Various packages

2007-04-09 Thread Raúl Porcel
# Raúl Porcel  (09 Apr 2007)
# Pending removal 09 Jun 2007, for treecleaners
# app-admin/cpu -> bug 173064
# app-admin/quickswitch -> bug 134335
# app-misc/jive -> bug 142838
# app-text/mgv -> bug 154645
# net-misc/dhcp-agent -> bug 168565
# x11-plugins/wmmail -> bug 73987
app-admin/cpu
app-admin/quickswitch
app-misc/jive
app-text/mgv
net-misc/dhcp-agent
x11-plugins/wmmail
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Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

2007-04-09 Thread Roy Wright
Jeffrey Gardner wrote:
> Big Thanks (TM) to wltjr, Christopher Satwell, and Roy Wright (right up
> the road in Chappell Hill - Love the smoked sausage!)!
> With those leads and some upstream love I hope to have jmol up and
> running soon!
>
>   

Looks like you found me!  Right up the road from where?

jmol looks interesting, so best of luck with it.


Have fun,
Roy

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[gentoo-dev] Re: base packages up for grabs

2007-04-09 Thread Steve Long
Mike Frysinger wrote:
> working here is no longer fun
hang on a sec; you're not retiring too are you?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

2007-04-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Mike Kelly wrote:

 - Help dberkholz with autofoo magic for ltsp (sorry I've slacked so
   long on this, I'll have more time to dig into it in a month).


Good to hear it! People keep bugging me about this, but seems like most 
of them aren't willing to put any effort into it. I'm glad you still are.


Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] doenvd vs. insinto /etc/env.d

2007-04-09 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 09 April 2007, Petteri Räty wrote:
> Marcelo Góes kirjoitti:
> > I just did a quick grep of the tree and found 129 ebuilds that
> > use doenvd and 134 that use insinto /etc/env.d.
>
> There are probably also lot of things using insinto /etc/init.d and
> /etc/conf.d too that should be fixed.

yep ... reason the {do,new}{init,conf}d functions were implemented
-mike


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Re: [gentoo-dev] genlop-0.30.6 released

2007-04-09 Thread Michael Cummings
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 10:43:58AM -0400, Michael Cummings wrote:
> -t fixed (not in svn yet, but it was an easy thing to fix)
> 
> trying to compile something that should take more than an hour on my box to 
> make
> sure -c is fixed also. Sorry about the shoddy release,
> 
can anyone tell i'm having a slow day at the office, or at least being
successful in maintaining a low profile today?

Fixed up, 0.30.7 is on its way to the mirrors. 


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Re: [gentoo-dev] genlop-0.30.6 released

2007-04-09 Thread Michael Cummings
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 09:12:53AM -0500, Steev Klimaszewski wrote:
>  Sun Apr  8 21:24:11 2007 >>> 
> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-2.0.0.0_rc1
>merge time: 3 hours,  and 37 seconds.
> 
>  Mon Apr  9 00:36:46 2007 >>> 
> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-2.0.0.0_rc1
>merge time: 2 hours, , 48 minutes and 57 seconds.

-t fixed (not in svn yet, but it was an easy thing to fix)

trying to compile something that should take more than an hour on my box to make
sure -c is fixed also. Sorry about the shoddy release,

~mcummings

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Re: [gentoo-dev] genlop-0.30.6 released

2007-04-09 Thread Michael Cummings
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 09:12:53AM -0500, Steev Klimaszewski wrote:
> No idea, but I've noticed a minor cosmetic bug in the display of time 
> with genlop (both -t and -c)
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ genlop -t mozilla-thunderbird
>  * mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird
> 
>  Tue Aug 22 12:18:24 2006 >>> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.5.0.5
>merge time: 1 hour, , 19 minutes and 40 seconds.
> 
>  Tue Sep 26 16:31:31 2006 >>> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.5.0.7
>merge time: 2 hours, , 41 minutes and 48 seconds.
> 
>  Thu Nov  9 15:47:51 2006 >>> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.5.0.8
>merge time: 3 hours, , 16 minutes and 8 seconds.
> 
>  Thu Dec 14 10:54:56 2006 >>> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.5.0.8
>merge time: 2 hours, , 55 minutes and 51 seconds.
> 
>  Sun Dec 17 21:17:50 2006 >>> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-2.0_beta1
>merge time: 2 hours, , 43 minutes and 29 seconds.
> 
>  Mon Dec 18 00:15:00 2006 >>> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-2.0_beta1
>merge time: 2 hours, , 39 minutes and 5 seconds.
> 
>  Tue Feb 20 00:15:54 2007 >>> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-2.0_beta2
>merge time: 3 hours, , 12 minutes and 54 seconds.
> 
>  Sun Apr  8 21:24:11 2007 >>> 
> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-2.0.0.0_rc1
>merge time: 3 hours,  and 37 seconds.
> 
>  Mon Apr  9 00:36:46 2007 >>> 
> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-2.0.0.0_rc1
>merge time: 2 hours, , 48 minutes and 57 seconds.
> 
> 
> (The multiples of the same version are due to the bindist flag and 
> forgetting which way its supposed to be to get the pretty icons)
> -- 
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> 

BAH. Figures.

Mind posting this on bugs.g.o and assigning it to me directly? Thanks :/ (no,
really, thank you, but at the same time...bah :)


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Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

2007-04-09 Thread Mike Kelly
Michael Cummings wrote:
> So, fellow devs, what's new with development?

Hmm, well, recently I've been working on some bug fixes for eselect
(mostly related to automake headaches), doing the occasional bump to vim
and friends when there seems to be a useful new patch out (although
additional help w/ vim would be appreciated), and hacking together some
random scripts.

I've kinda been lapsing in the past few weeks, though; need to finish up
this job and get back to school. A few other things I want to try and do:

 - Help dberkholz with autofoo magic for ltsp (sorry I've slacked so
   long on this, I'll have more time to dig into it in a month).
 - Help work on some of the targets we have now for eselect 1.1.x (all
   of which probably need some more discussion before they're coded).
 - Document vim-related ebuild maintenance stuff, in the hopes of
   lowering the barrier of entry for folks, as well as making /
   improving a few scripts to make ebuild maintenance easier.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] genlop-0.30.6 released

2007-04-09 Thread Michael Cummings
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 09:54:47AM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> Does this mean we're hosting the project now?
> 

Yes, currently under gentoo-perl's svn tree. The former upstream developers have
willingly ceded it over to me (I've retained their names in the info/docs as
original authors, but replaced bug references to point to bugs.g.o, which folks
were doing anyway - fuzzyray can attest to that).


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Re: [gentoo-dev] genlop-0.30.6 released

2007-04-09 Thread Steev Klimaszewski

Chris Gianelloni wrote:

On Sun, 2007-04-08 at 11:03 -0400, Michael Cummings wrote:

Been a while, upstream moved on in life but we continued to get interested users
filing bugs, so

genlop-0.30.6 went into the tree this morning. Primarily a bug fix release based
on what was open in bugs.gentoo.org. Enjoy :)


Does this mean we're hosting the project now?

No idea, but I've noticed a minor cosmetic bug in the display of time 
with genlop (both -t and -c)


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ genlop -t mozilla-thunderbird
 * mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird

 Tue Aug 22 12:18:24 2006 >>> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.5.0.5
   merge time: 1 hour, , 19 minutes and 40 seconds.

 Tue Sep 26 16:31:31 2006 >>> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.5.0.7
   merge time: 2 hours, , 41 minutes and 48 seconds.

 Thu Nov  9 15:47:51 2006 >>> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.5.0.8
   merge time: 3 hours, , 16 minutes and 8 seconds.

 Thu Dec 14 10:54:56 2006 >>> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.5.0.8
   merge time: 2 hours, , 55 minutes and 51 seconds.

 Sun Dec 17 21:17:50 2006 >>> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-2.0_beta1
   merge time: 2 hours, , 43 minutes and 29 seconds.

 Mon Dec 18 00:15:00 2006 >>> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-2.0_beta1
   merge time: 2 hours, , 39 minutes and 5 seconds.

 Tue Feb 20 00:15:54 2007 >>> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-2.0_beta2
   merge time: 3 hours, , 12 minutes and 54 seconds.

 Sun Apr  8 21:24:11 2007 >>> 
mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-2.0.0.0_rc1

   merge time: 3 hours,  and 37 seconds.

 Mon Apr  9 00:36:46 2007 >>> 
mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-2.0.0.0_rc1

   merge time: 2 hours, , 48 minutes and 57 seconds.


(The multiples of the same version are due to the bindist flag and 
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Re: [gentoo-dev] genlop-0.30.6 released

2007-04-09 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sun, 2007-04-08 at 11:03 -0400, Michael Cummings wrote:
> Been a while, upstream moved on in life but we continued to get interested 
> users
> filing bugs, so
> 
> genlop-0.30.6 went into the tree this morning. Primarily a bug fix release 
> based
> on what was open in bugs.gentoo.org. Enjoy :)

Does this mean we're hosting the project now?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Tears of unfathomable sorrow

2007-04-09 Thread Wernfried Haas
On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 06:30:19PM -0700, Alec Warner wrote:
> Much to the joy of many I am now retiring from Gentoo.

No joy here, sorry to see you go.

cheers,
Wernfried

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Re: [gentoo-dev] base packages up for grabs

2007-04-09 Thread Michal Januszewski
On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 05:18:14PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:

> sys-apps/fbset
> sys-libs/lrmi

I can take these since I already do fb-related stuff.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] hal-0.5.9 (was: *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?)

2007-04-09 Thread Elias Probst
A short reply to myself.. ;)

On Monday 09 April 2007 03:43:28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is there any way stopping the kernel from inotify-ing a directory? Couldn't
> find one yet.
> So we could add a test to the ebuild, whether it is a upgrade from <0.5.9
> and prevent reloading of the files until the next reboot.
> Maybe this could find it's way into an eclass, because other
> applications/daemons like dbus will surely suffer from the same problem
> when having the next $PV_MAJOR upgrade, so we could use the functions
> global. Should I open a bug for tracking this issue?
I've asked the dev of inotify-tools how to do this... it looks, like the 
information which file/directory is currently being monitored is not exported 
by the kernel, so we can't do a general check for monitored files of a 
package that is updated.
Instead it's only possible, to exclude directory $FOOBAR from being watched 
(without checking, whether it was really watched before by inotify).
=> Postpone this eclass plan to $SOMEDAY, use ewarn instead.

> > And it is good to know that some people are using KNetworkManager - I
> > don't have a machine currently with KDE installed (my KDE machine died)
> > and so I haven't tested it at all recently.
>
> KNetworkmanager works really fine here, except of some troubles concerning
> ipw3945+WPA which should be fixed in the next NetworkManager release (I
> hope it gets released soon, currently, my WLAN is only WEP "encrypted" :-/
> ).

Some other KDE (and probably Gnome, XFCE, etc.) related problems occured:
When plugging in my USB stick or my external USB HDD,  I can't mount them 
anymore: Permission denied: Not in active session

I found two bugs in the RedHat bugtracker about this:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=232674
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=229465

Currently, I'm trying to track down where this comes from on Gentoo.
It looks, like $XDG_SESSION_COOKIE isn't set, but I didn't find out yet, how 
this is set in Gentoo/KDM.

Also kpowersave started crashing, I've written to powersave-devel because it 
seems they don't have a bugtracker:
http://forge.novell.com/pipermail/powersave-devel/2007-April/000763.html

Until this isn't resolved, 0.5.9 shouldn't go stable.
I've opened a bug for tracking this:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173892

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Re: [gentoo-dev] doenvd vs. insinto /etc/env.d

2007-04-09 Thread Christian Heim
On Monday 09 April 2007 05:39:29 Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Sunday 08 April 2007, Marcelo Góes wrote:
> > As far as I can see, doenvd is more correct because it is
>
> doenvd was written specifically to replace `insinto /etc/env.d`
>
> > Does it make sense to allow both styles?
>
> not really
>
> > Is it worth it to convert everything to doenvd?
>
> yes please
> -mike

See bug 173884 for further reference.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] doenvd vs. insinto /etc/env.d

2007-04-09 Thread Petteri Räty
Marcelo Góes kirjoitti:
> Hello,
> 
> I just did a quick grep of the tree and found 129 ebuilds that
> use doenvd and 134 that use insinto /etc/env.d.
> 

There are probably also lot of things using insinto /etc/init.d and
/etc/conf.d too that should be fixed.

Regards,
Petter



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